by Felix Quigley
July 13, 2008
The following series of lies and our attempt to rebut these lies is of interest I feel. In recent days there has been an attack on our site and on 4international by Israpundit commenter Yamit82. The centre of the attack is on Trotsky and this person pulls all the dirty tricks out of hte bag to slander Leon Trotsky. His attacks on Trotsky brings to mind the very worst attacks by Stalinism on the Trotskyist movement in the late 20s and 30s. His language is crude and vile. Yet this is a person who claims to be Jewish. I firmly believe that this Yamit82 does not represent in the slightest the great traditions of the Jewish people and their great intellectual heritage. Not one person on Israpundit including its editor Ted Belman made any defence of Trotsky. The following was said by Yamit82 (another bone of contention I do not have his real name)
“Trotsky was a lousy Jew, a lousy revolutionary, and couldn’t in the end even defend himself from an axe splitting his head open from a Stalinist Assassin. Funny though if he had used his Jewish rights to return to his Jewish Homeland he might probably have survived Stalin and then who knows what his contribution might have been. One could make a case for his murder, was that he had turned his back on Jews in favor of a secular religion which was antithetical to Judaism. “
“One could make a case for the murder of Trotsky”, says this guy claiming to be Jewish, why, because Trotsky was a dialectical materialist.
That is the severe and deep crisis that Israpundit has ended up in and it mirrors the general crisis which is in the whole Jewisn Nation as it faces annihilation if Iran is able to complete its preparation of the Nuclear bomb.
First Attack on 4international by Yamit82 on Israpundit
(HE PULLS THE FOLLOWING QUOTE (italics) FROM OUR SITE)
Charles there is a time in which to act and that time is now. ISRAEL MUST MAKE WAR ON THE IRANIAN MULLAHS, MUST DESTROY THEIR REGIME BY FORCE, WHATEVER FORCE IT TAKES. IT MUST AT THE SAME TIME MAKE A DIRECT APPEAL TO ALL IRANIAN WORKERS, TRADE UNIONISTS, YOUTH, OPPRESSED WOMEN, AND OPPRESSED HOMOSEXUALS. The fight is not with them, the fight against the Mullahs is on behalf of them. And on behalf of all freedom loving people in all of the world.
Felix you are sooo militant. with somebody else’s blood! Why don’t you come on over join the IDF so you can be part of the butchery. Whose armies have you been part of Trotsky’s? he is long dead along with his ideas except for those crazy’s, more anarchists than Trotskyites who go from city to place where a world economic forum is set to happen. Show me a practicing Trotskyite and I will show you a virulent antisemitic Commie!
Why aren’t you advocating openly that Russia, China, India, France, England all nuke powers and all potentially targets of a future Iranian attack be the ones to take on Iran instead or all of them together, we can make it a party. That you advocate Israel attacking Iran a sovereign nation run by nuts ( maybe not as nutty as some )and none else as if we are the little Dutch Boy with his finger in the dike, belies some possible hidden agenda in back of your tirades.
Who is going to have to cope with the 80 thousand missiles and rockets aimed at our cities in the aftermath of such an attack, you? I do have a suspicion that as much or more than any of the mullahs that you would be not very sad to see several tens of thousands of Jews here bite it so we can protect your commie ass in Spain, is it?
Comment by yamit82 — July 11, 2008 @ 11:34 am
Reply of 4international to above attack by Yamit82
You seem very secure in belshing out your demented hatred of Leon Trotsky under cover of a pseudonym.
The quote above is from the site which can be reached on
and which contains this in the first paragraphs:
Israel must now act to destroy the Iranian Nuclear Bomb making without any delay. This means that Israel must without any hesitation whatsoever declare war on the Iranian Islamofascist regime and must strike and strike hard at these bomb making facilities which the Mullahs are running.
At the same time Israel must break decisively from American Imperialism which in every statement and in every action that it takes now, shows that it is a friend of Iran, and not a friend of Israel.
Every single thing that we have learned about the US Imperialists in the destruction of Yugoslavia shows that the US is in league with Islam and Islamofascism on a world scale. We know that the US supported the Fascist Tudjman in the murder and ethnic cleansing of the Krajina of half a million of Serbs. We know that the US was fully behind the Islamofascist Izetbegovic. We know that the US in Bosnia joined with Bin Laden, Saudi Arabia and Iran in using Islamist killers to crush the Serbs. We know that the US along with the party of Izetbegovic planned and created the hoax “massacre” in Srebrenica in otrder to crush the Serbs.
So we know that it is not a surprise now that the US is telling Israel not to bomb and attack Iran, and it is not a surprize that Israel is being isolated by the US Imperialists.
And by Imperialists I mean the present Bush regime, and the next regime whether led by Obama or McCain.
That is our position.
What is your position then? For Israel to do nothing?
That would square with your other call of a few weeks ago, mouthing the reactionary drivel of your friend Samson which is to keep Olmert in power because he is not such a bad guy after all.
A more damning expression of political bankruptcy would be hard to find.
Yamit82 you may be a damned good religious Jew, but you are one damned bad politician.
Why not stick to your prayers Yamit82 and leave the real political work to the Jewish youth of Israel.
Finally I can do much more to help Israel from my work in Europe than I ever could in Israel. Oops forgot Yamit82 just hates any other nationality helping Israel! What a total pain in the ass!
Comment by Felix Quigley — July 12, 2008 @ 7:12 am
Additional reply by 4international
On reflection after time to cool down all the conclusion I have come to is that this is one of the more disturbing comments that I have read.
It is a long time since on Israpundit a good Jewish man called BobW, before Yamit82 appeared on the scene, answered a similar attack by pointing out that anybody who defends Israel whether in or outside of Israel is not immune from danger. He was right.
So this anonymous Yamit82 “Felix you are sooo militant. with somebody else’s blood!” he should go and have a talk with BobW.
Any person who takes up a struggle to defend Israel and the Jewish right to have a Homeland, and to live in peace from the dangers of antisemitism, does not do so to have a quiet life.
Does Yamit82 not understand the climate of opinion in places like Ireland, England, Spain and the struggle that we have to take up to defend Israel against Antisemitism.
As BobW pointed out the struggle against Islamofascism is now universal.
On the issue of the Israeli need to stop the Iranian bomb creation this is something that is unavoidable.
But in that context when Israel does strike against the Revolutionary Guards in their bunkers, even as they are creating these antisemitic weapons of genocide, then Israel needs every single friend that it can have in the world, and above all these must be organized to fight against the incessant propaganda put about by the organizations like the ISM, and by the moral equivalence of the BBC and the French TV etc.
I find these remarks of Yamit82 against my political positions of such seriousness that I am going to write to Ted Belman and ask him to identify publicly who is yamit82, what does he do, who does he work for, and why in hell he is being given the freedom of Israpundit to puke this hate filled reaction out against people like myself who are the true friends of Israel. Belman knows very well that I am despite the most serious political, tactical and strategic differences of policy between us.
Comment by Felix Quigley — July 12, 2008 @ 8:26 am
Reply by Yamit82 on Israpundit
Felix, thanks for your reply: Trotsky was a lousy Jew, a lousy revolutionary, and couldn’t in the end even defend himself from an axe splitting his head open from a Stalinist Assassin. Funny though if he had used his Jewish rights to return to his Jewish Homeland he might probably have survived Stalin and then who knows what his contribution might have been. One could make a case for his murder, was that he had turned his back on Jews in favor of a secular religion which was antithetical to Judaism. He had choices and made the wrong ones and paid for them.
I love Judaism, I love Torah, I love Jews, I love Israel and I can tell you Felix that there are many Arabs today in the Paradise enjoying their 72 virgins brides because of me. I am not today a ritually practicing Jew, I do respect those who do if they are here in Israel , the rest? I do not respect them much.
In the end Israel might take the initiative and try to do what all the militant supporters of Israel seem to be pressing us on. maybe we will do something and maybe not but My question to you and others not living here in the line of fire, why you are not pressing Ireland, Spain your countries of record to do or decease doing what they are currently doing aiding Iran? Iran can or will be able to hit Spain as easily as Israel and have less fear of retaliation or devastating retaliation as Iran would from an attack against Israel?
regardless of all conspiracy theories that America your imperialist Bogey Man, they have the strength and the where with all to do the job best. NATO has vast resources. none except Israel have 80,000 missiles and rockets aimed at all our populated cities and towns. Some with chemical and possibly Bio war heads. So you see the problem is just not Iran and her Nuke ambitions, but if we miscue the results could be a second holocaust for us so nobody here Relishes the proposition. Once you begin such an event you cannot predict scenarios that were not foreseen and here lyes part of our dilemma. It doesn’t matter who sits in the PM chair they will not do the bombing or the fighting and all are equal or not eaqual to the task about the same.A change in leadership by itself will not be our salvation and cure all for all our problems present and future.
Israel with allies is weak, as we will need to consider the opinions and interests of those allies. We will be more hesitant and restrained because of our belief and even faith in our allies especially if the primary among our allies is the #1 superpower in the world. An Israel alone will look inward and discount the interests of others in favor of doing what has to be done in order to ensure our ultimate survival. Like in 67 and even 73.
An attack on Iran is more likely to unite Iranian around their Mullahs and national fervor will destroy any opposition. Why don’t you pressure the Russian, Germans, Chinese, English etc. to stop supplying Iran the Means for achieving their goals?
Comment by yamit82 — July 12, 2008 @ 9:08 am
More rubbish from Yamit82
Another piece of twisting from Yamit82
Again pulling a quote from our site and articles (italics)
Israel must break from US Imperialism but it must seek allies in the American people, among the wonderful Christian Evangelicals led by John Hagee, among the ordinary American working class people who have been steadfast in support of Israel and the rights of the Jews to a Homeland.
Every Jew in America must refuse to vote for either Obama or Hagee and must use their influence to talk to their Congress person, so that this discussion of how to save Israel from Islamofascism is taken into Congress.
No faith in either Obama or McCain.
Belman as editor of Israpundit has now got a lot to answer for. he deliberately stopped my posts and encouraged the posts on Israpundit of out and out Republican NeoCon American Imperialists like the totally stupid Bill Levinson.
The campaign of Levinson against Obama has been filled with Republican Imperialist hatred and many suspect that there is a strong racist tinge to it.
Is Levinson actually Jewish? If he is then I have no hesitation in saying that the great Jewish people should be thoroughly ashamed of what Levinson has been getting up to on Israpundit over recent months.
Belman himself has had a post which I read (I apologise if I read it wrongly)where Belman was questioning the birth certificate of Obama. A Jew questioning the birth certificate of a black man in America! Belman just does not get it because he is speaking not as a Jewish man, essentially no matter how you cut it a Jewish refugee, but as a dyed in the wool American Imperialist and an enemy of socialism.
You have a hodgepodge of things here most I don’t see very related. I will skip The Israel/ Iranian things as I replies to that already but it seems to me that you are the one who should be called on Who are you to Question whether Levinson is Jewish or not?
What does questioning if by reference to Obamas birth certificate he is found to be ineligible to run for President? what does his being Black have to do with anything? The Man is running for President for christs sake all is fair game in politics! It isn’t racism it is politics and what we and you believes he stands for. You are off the table here. I always thought that Ted was a Canadian Imperialist?
Felix there are many more NEOCON Republican American Imperialists than followers of Trotsky or Communism, that said numbers do not prove they are any more correct than you but you infer that being a Republican or a supporter of Neo Cons philosophy is a minority aberration which I find funny coming from someone with your beliefs.
Felix as to who I am , what I do etc. I will make a deal with you you show me yours I will show you mine!
Comment by yamit82 — July 12, 2008 @ 9:41 am
Final reply from us on 4international to this Yamit82 character
You do not write under your name. That is my point. You could be anybody.
I have never used a pseudonym. You have my name. Every single website that I ever wrote on has my name. I have never used other than the name that my parents in Ireland gave me.
I am opposed to pseudonyms in any case. it is a bad practice.
If any person writes on my blog and I think it is a false name I will cut their entries, ie not allow it.
You could be anybody writing under yamit82.
As regardsd Leon Trotsky it matters little what you think of Trotsky or communism.
But I does matter that you stand for keeping Olmert in power, along with Livni and Barak. That is your stated position and that of Samson Blinded. Stated. In black and white.You are a total phoney.
On the other substantive point re policy. I say that Israel must not waste a single day and must hit the Iranian bomb making asap.
You oppose that position.
You must think we are all stupid. You think we are unaware of the dangers.
The dangers of waiting however will cost many lives. That is YOUR position.
And your confused and confusing other rubbish above if anybody takes time to analyse it you are supporting US Imperialism at the very moment that US is tightening the garrotte around the throat of Israel.
As I said you are a phoney. Always thought that, still do.
Comment by Felix Quigley — July 13, 2008 @ 8:39 am
And finally there was this by Yamit82 in which he advocates a WAIT AND SEE in relation to the Iranian Bomb, how the Iranian Fascists must love the influence of Yamit82. Meanwhile not ONE WORD from Belman or any other commenter on Israpundit to refute this nonsence!!!
Felix, to tell you the truth, how do I know your name is really Felix Quigley, and even if it is you real name and not an alias should it mean anything to me or anyone else? Now correct me if I have gotten something wrong. The beauty of commenting on blogs over the net or on the net is that we all seem to have a lot of freedom to say exactly whats on our minds without fears of retribution. maintaining anonymity suits the temperament and paranoia of many people and allows for free flow of ideas. I have given out my E mail address and have corresponded and even spoken with several people from Israpundit and once I even posted a reply on your blog with my e mail and received no reply so I don’t necessarily accept this criticism although I can understand your feelings here.
I don’t stand for much of anything or to be exact anyone in politics anymore as I see one as bad as another and for the most part cannot see where any change will bring a sea change needed to put our ship of state and society in what I believe is the right direction. Today change for changes sake does not cut it. Olmert will leave one way or another but when his time has come . I am not excited at all with the alternatives and from here it looks like more of the same if BB get in.
My gut feeling would be also to take Iran at their word and unleash hell on them but since I and not you is in the direct line of fire my brain tells me to hold off and see how things progress. I fear those 80,000 misssiles more than I fear a nuke or two. If one were to add Egypt’s and Saudi arsenals to the mix it would be a very black day for Israel. I got kids and grandchildren to think about here unlike yourself and I live only a few miles from our nuke reactor which is already zoned in by everybody so don’t tell me about imperialism and all that bullshit. When you have half the world zoning you in with a lot of lethal weaponry you sort of down play bravado for a bit of realism and reasoned common sense. No Muslim country fanatically hates Zionism more than Pakistan and they have 50 Nukes and are protecting Ben Laden. ow if we can live with 50 Muslim nuke Bombs, maybe we could also live with a couple of Iranian Nukes, but then again maybe not its not my decision but I am an interested party and thusly I reserve final opinion awaiting further input of data before accepting blindly your propositions that we preempt.
Now where is the Bullshit here Felix? I will say this though, were we to attack Iran successfully you will then see Capitalism ascend worldwide in all its glitzy glory.
Comment by yamit82 — July 13, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
Yamit82 expresses the paralysis of the Israeli bourgeois (capitalist) and petty bourgeois class in the face of the threats from Imperialism, from Islamofasscism and in general from world antisemitism.
There is another quality to yamit82, and that is a fuundamentalist arrogance in which he thinks and claims to have some answewrs, where as in fact he is totally bankrupt. If he could only admit to being bankrupt that would not be nearly so dangerous.
But even as this crisis facing Israel intensifies by the day, another on Israpundit called Sultan Knish opens up with an article attacking Darwin and Evolution, and they all wade in. You could not really make this up.
There are so many lies above from Yamit82. Let me clarify at least a few things:
1. Action against the Iranian Islamofascists is now forced upon Israel. It is not of Israel’s choosing but it is reality.
2. Antisemitism is now most blatant in Islam
3. But it is mirrored as an offshoot in the degeneration of the Left and its support for Islam
4. Mixed in with this is the historical crisis of Imperialism and its dependence on oil
5. That dependence on oil is a by product of the inability of capitalism as a system to bring the development of the productive power of mankind forward.
6. In this situation of the need to defeat Imperialism we oppose the crude anti Americanism of the “Left” mentioned above, which dopes not distinguish between the American people and the small cabal who control America from the top of both the Democrats and Republicans election machinery.
All of this is so far from Yamit82 a fact which expresses also the historical crisis in Judaism and Zionism, which has been inherent right from the time of Herzl.
And specifically we say
· To call on keeping Olmert Livni and Barak in power is a gross betrayal of Jews
· To call for Israel to “wait and see” and for Israpundit not to challenge this with great energy is a gross betrayal of the Jews.