SREBRENICA HOAX…A GRAPHIC EXAMPLE OF HOW THE MISINFORMATION IS SPREAD

by Felix Quigley

July 25, 2008

Adam le Bor is part of the gang who hang out around sites like Harry’s Place. They on Harry’s Place, with a few exceptions but not those who run that site, are the biggest liars on G-ds earth because they promote continually that the Serbs carried out a massacre of 8000 Muslims in Srebrenica. This is a massive lie, a blatant lie, part of the Orwellian Big Lie syndrome. They know it too which makes it not a lie by mistake but a lie by intent.

We have answered fully and carefully in the most succinct and unmistakable form this horrific Big Lie that has been perpetrated against the wonderful and historical people of Serbia.

See for example:

[begin quote here]

There was never a shred of forensic evidence ever presented to prove that even ONE Muslim was executed by the VRS (Republic of Srpska – Bosnian Serb army).

Yes, you read that correctly: NATO’s ICTY kangaroo court in the Hague failed to produce even a shred of evidence to support the charge that even ONE Bosnian Muslim was executed!!

Not one eye-witness was EVER presented during July 1995 who said that they saw with their own eyes a SINGLE atrocity by VRS forces take place.

This was even reported in the British press at the time!! (July, 1995)

Hubert Wieland, personal representative of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, told the [UK] Daily Telegraph (July 24, 1995, electronic edition):

“we have not found anyone who saw with their own eyes an atrocity taking place.”

[end quote here]

And much more! Please study the whole article very carefully!

https://4international.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/srebrenicamay-the-g-ds-honest-truth-set-us-all-free/

First let me repeat from the above quote for effect and to concentrate the mind:

Not one eye-witness was EVER presented during July 1995 who said that they saw with their own eyes a SINGLE atrocity by VRS forces take place.

Not with their own eyes a single atrocity by VRS forces! Now given the way that this claim has been extended through out the whole world that is some claim to make! yet that is the claim which we on 4international are supremely confident of proving beyond the merest shadow of a doubt. We have studied this and we do know what we are talking about.

A GRAPHIC EXAMPLE OF HOW THE SREBRENICA MASSACRE HOAX STORY IS SPREAD BY THE MEDIA…PART 1

I live in Southern Spain and I often tune in to the relaxed music at night on Radio station REM. I also try to listen to the talk shows which are run there by fellow Irishman Maurice Boland, always entertaining, often informative.

Last night as I listened casually I became totally horrified by what a guest of Maurice Boland was saying about this Srebrenica issue. I stopped being casual and became very, very angry indeed. The guest was a man called Adam le Bor who I knew very well from the anti Serb site Harry’s Place. Here was the full panoply of lies being cast out on FM about Srebrenica. I was so concerned I do what I rarely do, I got on my mobile and rang up REM FM. To improve the reception I went outside and before doing so I placed the radio on record.

In this initial article today I will only go so far as the introduction, as Maurice Boland who admittted he did not know much on the subject, and le Bor told about Srebrenica, their version of Srebrenica, especially the le Bor version.

[so begin my report of that introduction here]

Adam de Bor was welcomed onto the REM 7.00 pm talk show by Maurice Boland on July 24, the host of this twice weekly hourly show. REM is a radio show which covers most of Southern Spain.

 

The issue of the arrest of Radovan Karaditz is topical and Maurice goes immediately into what he has read about the Srebrenica Massacre story *

 

Maurice

 

One of the stories that I read and researched for this show was the frightening story of the Srebrenica massacre. Frightening and only be reminiscent of the Hitler times, the Nazi times, I have never read such a graphic details of such a massacre of a people simply because of their race and creed.

 

Adam le Bor

 

Srebrenica is a town in Eastern Bosnia. It is a UN declared safe haven. There were Dutch peace keeping troops there. Serbs attacked it because its population were mostly Muslims. The Dutch peacekeepers just basically rolled over. The Serbs take the men away, they took away up to 8000 men and boys, some of them still teenagers and over the next few days lined them up and shot them. And it was exactly as you say like something out of the Second World War, like the Einsat group that used to operate on the Eastern Front massacring Jews, the parallel is really quite precise.

 

Maurice

 

It was. I mean harmless old men, women babies are all systematically slaughtered. There were a few survivors and because of those survivors we could get the stories. I read of 9 men who committed suicide because they could not live with the memories of it, that how horrible it is

 

Adam le Bor

 

Yes that is something which still echoes today obviously people go through something like that and the few people that did survive. I should say the women and children were sent off to a northern city in the north called Tuzla but it is only when no men arrived apart from the very old and little kids and the UN and others starting asking where the men were that they began to uncover the full horrors of the story that I would remind you happened in Europe in 1995 in a country that is an hour away from Vienna and just a couple of hours flight from Britain, not in some obscure part of the world.

 

…reference to Mugabe…the war in the Balkans stopped in September 1995 when NATO bombed the Bosnian Serbs which they could have done at the outset. There was some sense of shame on Srebrenica that this had happened but also there was a fear that this was going to spread across the Balkans that the Bosnian Serb Army was this kind of mad Frankinstein completely out of control. So it was stopped when it had to be stopped.

*Maurice Boland is highly intelligent person but he is dyslexic and he had difficult in the introduction pronouncing Srebrenica. He said his research on the subject was just that day in preparation for the programme. So what he said above came from what he read on that day.

 

The section above from Adam le Bor which I have placed in heavy italics is the key element. Here is their description of the Srebrenica Massacre. This is Adam le Bor being allowed to explain it without any hassle or interruption.

 

These elements make up his description

 

  1. The UN having created a safe area
  2. A defenceless Muslim civilian population, unarmed, protected by the UN
  3. The powerful Serb Army over run the area and push the UN aside
  4. The Serb Army take 8000 men and boys away
  5. And shoot them
  6. Like the Nazi Einsat did in Russia to the Jews

 

So the challenge which Maurice Boland threw down to me at the end of the programme is to produce the evidence to demolish that

 

These have to be shown in some detail. Elements 1 and 2 go together. The UN did not create a safe area in Srebrenica. We will show that the UN did not disarm the Muslim Garrision in Srebrenica and that the Muslim Army led by Nasir Oric massacred 3800 Serb peasants, mainly women, children and old men, and usually in the dead of night in isolated homesteads in the villages around Srebrenica. These deaths have been highly documented by the Serb authorities and the evidence handed to the UN.

 

Element No 3 above is also false. The Serb army was overstretched and fell into a trap which was laid for them by the Muslim Islamist leadership controlled by Izetbegovic from Sarajevo. That also has to be shown in detail, using especially the evidence collected from a UN Officer on the scene in Bosnia.

 

Element No 4 is a lie. The Serb army took prisoners of men. This was a war situation.

 

 The number of 8000 has got nothing whatsoever to the Serb army taking prisoners on the capture of Srebrenica. The taking of prisoners is a totally separate issue. There has never been a situation in history when a victorious army on the battle field did not take prisoners.

 

So Element No 4 above runs into this issue of the Serbs taking of prisoners. If our evidence about Nasir Oric is correct then there are 3,800 murders of Serb peasants to investigate. The Serb taking of prisoners is the most understandable thing in the world. It would have been highly abnormal if that had not taken place.

 

Element No 5 until proven by sound evidence which must be unbiased is just an assertion made by a hostile enemy. All war combatants have done precisely this in war. All war combatants have spread lies about their enemy in time of war. We have answered this already on our site on many occasions, but see https://4international.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/srebrenicamay-the-g-ds-honest-truth-set-us-all-free/

 

And we are not finished with this. We shall move into the nature of the Hague Court and expose the lies told there.

 

Element No 6 is also common, to liken your enemy to the Nazis. It stands or falls on all of the above but more. It also will require an examination of history, especially the history in the Balkans of the Holocaust but unlike our enemies who are spreading this filthy Big Lie (Srebrenica) against the Serbs we are not afraid of history. In fact we welcome it.

 

On precisely that score…We will show that the person who had direct contact with the Nazis was the leader of the enemy of the Serbs in this Bosnian war, Elija Izetbegovic, and we will show very close contact indeed. Indeed we will prove that Izetbegovic was a Nazi. And this is typical of the Orwellian twists in this story. Label and accuse your enemy of exactly what you in fact are, in this case being a Nazi. Izetbegovic we will prove was a member of the Nazi Muslim Brotherhood all of his conscious political life, from 1939 to his death 60 years later.

 

In many ways the whole story of Srebrenica, more specifically this story of the Srebrenica Massacre, centres on the leadership of the movement that the Serbs were fighting, on Izetbegovic.

 

And that is why all of those who are promoting this fake Massacre are essentially liars. In order to promote the Big Lie of the Serbs massacring Muslims they have to at the same tide hide the real identity of Izetbegovic.

 

But first we will show how when he was challenged by me on the REM talk show that Adam Le Bor resorted to labelling me as a “lunatic” and then to desperately spreading confusion about the role of Hajj Amin el Husseini in the Balkan Holocaust.

 

I will show that at that stage in the argument on REM FM that Adam le Bor was acting like a cornered rat. He was cornered and he was overcome with anxiety to seek a bolt hole through which he could make some escape. Believe me that is true but you will judge for yourself!

 

He knew that that fact is a key fact because having studied the period and written books about the period he will know that Elija Izetbegovic had close, very close, connections with that Holocaust Monster.

 

That is the single most important fact that all of those who have promoted the Bosnian Muslims under Izetbegovic as “moderate” and the Serbs as “monsters” have to fight like the cornered rats that they are. Please excuse my use of the term “cornered rat” but it is these people around Harry’s Place who have been extreme in their hatred.

 

So to sum up in many ways it is the past reality of the Holocaust in the Balkans and the key relationship of Elija Izetbegovic that will have come back to haunt people like Adam le Bor who have used so much energy to label the Bosnian Serbs as Nazis.

5 thoughts on “SREBRENICA HOAX…A GRAPHIC EXAMPLE OF HOW THE MISINFORMATION IS SPREAD

  1. Mick

    I had to rejig the articles and I unfortunately have lost your substantial comment. If you have a copy resubmit it, I was planning to place it on its own as an article in this series. Just one more thing learned on WordPress.

    I have many articles in line on this issue. WordPress or the Internat is very slow today so I will leave it until after the weekend

    Best regards to you and all my friends

    Felix

    PS I am particularly interested on exposing the “coaching” of witnesses in the Hague Court system. This should be investigated in context of Ulster. Use in google perhaps Supergrass, Gilmore, Brian Nelson

    If they have repeated anything like that in the Hague it is most telling

  2. Felix,

    the article I had posted was this one:

    http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?PHPSESSID=dmkm2enu438knq3rba4nuufth5&topic=23907.0

    Karadzic is 100% Innocent – Oric & Izetbegovic are GUILTY for Genocide against the Srebrenica Serbs: our reply to [JTF reader] “mark_can”

    [start quote from mark_can]:

    “I spent some time in almost every area of the balkans during my time in the military,
    including Srebrenica.”

    [end quote from mark_can]

    Oh really Mark – what unit, may I ask? What was the UN designation of your particular unit?

    Whom was your commanding officer? From what date were you stationed in Srebrenica and when

    did your tour of duty start and end? Precise dates only please.

    Show some documented proof that can be independently verified that you were actually

    stationed in Srebrenica in a Canadian unit at any time from April 1992 to July 1995 flying

    under the UN flag.

    There was no Canadian unit stationed in Srebrenica in July 1995 as this area was monitored

    by the Dutch UN unit. If you were in a Canadian unit prior to that you need to provide us

    proof that such a unit existed or was ever stationed there.

    Not only that but no Canadian peacekeeper or commanding officer has ever given testimony at

    the Hague ICTY saying that he/she saw with their own eyes a SINGLE atrocity by VRS [Bosnian

    Serb] forces take place in Srebrenica. But yet we do have the testimony of UN French

    General Phillipe Morrillon that Naser Oric was slaughtering Serbs in and around Srebrenica

    for years – not only that but that Oric was doing all of this under the instructions of the

    Islamist Nazi Alija Izetbegovic in Sarajevo.

    ICTY Prosecutor Groome asked Morillon about Oric’s treatment of Bosnian Serb POWs:

    “If I could ask you, what if anything did Mr. Oric himself say to you with

    respect to what he had been doing with prisoners during this time period?”

    Morillon answered:

    “Naser Oric was a warlord who reigned by terror in his area and over the

    population itself. I think that he realized that these were the rules of this horrific war,

    that he could not allow himself to take prisoners. According to my recollection, de didn’t

    even look for an excuse. It was simply a statement: One can’t be bothered with

    prisoners.”

    The General went on to explain that Nasir Oric, the Muslim military commander of the

    Srebrenica enclave,

    “engaged in attacks during Orthodox holidays and destroyed villages,

    massacring all the [Serb] inhabitants. This created a degree of hatred that was quite

    extraordinary in the region.”

    Morillon explained how he had been shown the bodies of Bosnian Serbs massacred in eastern

    Bosnia:

    “I wasn’t surprised when the Serbs took me to a village to show me the

    evacuation of the bodies of the inhabitants that had been thrown into a hole, a village

    close to Bratunac. And this made me understand the degree to which this infernal situation

    of blood and vengeance-I think Subotic (sic) [the reference is to Croatian-American

    journalist Chuck Sudetic and the book Blood and Vengeance] spoke very well about this blood

    and vengeance, the degree to which this led to a situation when I personally feared that the

    worst would happen if the Serbs of Bosnia managed to enter the enclaves and

    Srebrenica.”

    Morillon concluded that the fall of Srebrenica in 1995 was due to the massacres committed by

    Naser Oric’s forces in 1992 and 1993. Judge Patrick Robinson asked Morillon:

    “Are you saying, then, General, that what happened in 1995 was a direct

    reaction to what Naser Oric did to the Serbs two years before?”

    Morillon replied:

    “Yes. Yes your Honour. I am convinced of that.”[/b]

    Not one eye-witness in Srebrenica was EVER presented during July 1995 who said that they saw

    with their own eyes a SINGLE atrocity by VRS forces take place.

    This was even reported in the British press at the time!! (July, 1995)

    Hubert Wieland, personal representative of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights,

    told the [UK] Daily Telegraph (July 24, 1995, electronic edition):

    “we have not found anyone who saw with their own eyes an atrocity taking

    place.”

    Excerpted from:

    Tim Butcher, “Serb Atrocities in Srebrenica are Unproven,” The Daily Telegraph

    [UK], July 24, 1995.

    Do a Google search on “Hubert Wieland” “Srebrenica”

    Also Google this: “Schouten” “Bratunac”

    and this: “Carlos Martins Branco” “Srebrenica” “Hoax”

    If you were actually stationed in Srebrenica from any time beginning from April 1992 to July

    1995 you would be aware of the Dutch peacekeepers’ regular reports of Naser Oric’s mass

    slaughters of thousands of elderly Serbian men, women and young children in and around

    Srebrenica (usually perpetrated at night) since the Serbian men were away fighting

    Izetbegovic’s Islamist forces on the front.

    This has been thoroghly documented by both the Bosnian Serbian authorities in Republika

    Srpska, in testimony by UN French General Phillipe Morrillon at the Hague ICTY kangaroo

    court “trial” of Milosevic, as well as the Dutch peacekeepers stationed there.

    The documentation on this Islamist genocide by Izetbegovic and Oric in and around Srebrenica

    against the Serbs was also submitted to the Hague ICTY Kangaroo court funded and controlled

    by the US and NATO. In the summer of 2006 the corrupt NATO paid judges subsequently let the

    Islamist perpetrator of this ghastly genocide against 3,870 Serbian Christians walk free

    after having served a mere 3 years! (he was sentenced to 2 years only so the NATO paid

    judges immediately released this Islamist mass murderer on the ludicrous grounds that he had

    no control over his troops).

    [start quote from mark_can]:

    “JNA army units and Serbian paramilitarys just unleashing on any target they could find

    civilian or otherwise.”

    [end quote from mark_can]

    Interesting assertions. You fail to mention that Izetbegovic’s Islamist forces were

    regularly shelling Serbian suburbs of Sarajevo FIRST with artillery and mortar fire –

    suburbs such as Ilidza, Grbavica, Ilijas, Vogosca (the list goes on) – on a regular basis.

    If you knew your history properly and served as a UN peacekeeper you would know that there

    was no JNA [Yugoslav People’s Army] in Bosnia or Herzegovina for the entire duration of the

    war in Bosnia Herzegovina as the JNA withdrew soon after the illegal secession and

    recognition by the US of Izetbegovic’s Islamist Nazi illegitimate fundamentalist government

    – which occurred on the 51st anniversary of the same day that Hitler attacked Serbia: April

    6 1992. The JNA totally withdrew from Bosnia Herzegovina very soon after this date.

    Sarajevo was a divided city – with central Sarajevo controlled by Izetbegovic’s Islamists

    -and the outer suburbs controlled by the Bosnian Serbs.

    As early as July 1992, this pattern of the Bosnian Serbs responding to Izetbegovic’s

    Islamist provocations of artillery and mortar fire against Serbian suburbs of Sarajevo had

    been logged and documented by UN officials in Sarajevo.

    A confidential memo from the UN commander of Sarajevo, Major-General Lewis MacKenzie (a

    Canadian) to his superior, General Satish Nambiar, and the UN’s Marrack Goulding is

    illuminating – and I quote:

    “Indications in Sarajevo point to desire by the [Izetbegovic Islamist]

    presidency to perpetuate the current crisis. Most of the Serb guns are silent. However, they

    themselves are not entirely to blame.

    “The [Izetbegovic Islamist] presidency on the other hand continues to initiate exchanges as

    they attempt to to improve their tactical positions.This is extremely difficult, if not

    impossible to prove.However, some such tendency is certainly noticeable…

    “The shelling has reduced considerably in Sarajevo, but the [Izetbegovic Islamist]

    presidency continues to perpetuate the myth that the city is being bombarded. This is not

    the case however, it is the version of a man [Alija Izetbegovic] who expects military help”

    [memo dated July 14, 1992]

    Even the Dutch troops headed by Captain Schouten who came on the scene shortly afterwards in

    the adjoining village of Bratunac said they never saw any evidence of a large scale

    massacre.

    Here is a statement made by Dutch UN Captain Schouten:

    “Everybody is parroting everybody, but nobody shows hard evidence. I notice

    that in the Netherlands people want to prove at all costs that genocide has been committed.

    (…) If executions have taken place, the Serbs have been hiding it damn well. Thus, I don’t

    believe any of it. The day after the collapse of Srebrenica, July 13, I arrived in Bratunac

    and stayed there for eight days. I was able to go wherever I wanted to. I was granted all

    possible assistance; nowhere was I stopped.”

    Captain Schouten was the only UN military officer in Bratunac – a town adjoining

    Srebrenica – at the time a massacre is alleged.

    A commander of the Izetbegovic Muslim-dominated Army of BiH (Bosnia-Herzegovina) later

    confirmed to parliament in Sarajevo that 5,000 BiH troops ESCAPED LARGELY INTACT to Tuzla

    while the UN itself registered some 35,632 civilian survivors.

    The population of Srebrenica – according to the media + NATO/EU governments – was 40,632

    people.

    Add the figure of 35,632 registered AFTER the capture of the town to a minimum of 5,000

    Izetbegovic Bosnian Islamist troops who had managed to escape – according to what the

    Izetbegovic government army spokespeople themselves admitted to the Sarajevo parliament –

    and you end up with 40,632 people: the very same population of Srebrenica before its capture

    by the Bosnian Serb VRS.

    But if we believe what the ICTY + NATO/EU governments + media are trying to make us believe:

    35,632 Bosnian Muslim “survivors” + 5,000 admitted by Izetbegovic’s people to have escaped =

    40,632 to which we have to add 8,000 Bosnian Muslim males supposedly massacred = 48,632

    people, which is 8,000 MORE people than even existed as the population of Srebrenica

    (40,632) according to the UN’s own figures, prior to its capture.

    Please note that it was NOT the Serbs who claimed that 5,000 Muslim men escaped to Tuzla.

    It was Izetbegovic’s BiH government army spokesmen & the International Committe of the Red

    Cross [ICRC] & the Western media who made that claim.

    ICRC (International Committe of the Red Cross)& media press reports back in August-September

    1995, categorically stated that roughly 3,000 of Izetbegovic’s troops made it safely to

    Tuzla (a Muslim controlled town) and were re-incorporated into the Bosnian (Muslim) Army

    and I quote the ICRC here:

    “without their families being informed”.

    Izetbegovic’s own Bosnian government army spokespeople said at the time that a further 5,000

    Srebrenica men made it safely through to Bosnian Muslim lines!! (now you can understand how

    they came up with the figure of 8,000 supposedly executed:

    5,000 who “went missing” but instead made it safely to Muslim lines + 3,000 who also “went

    missing” according to the ICRC but who were later re-incorporated into the Bosnian Muslim

    army of Izetbegovic “without their families being informed” as the ICRC itself later

    stated to the media)

    Within a week of the takeover of Srebrenica (July 18, 1995) one learns from the New

    York Times report that:

    “Some 3,000 to 4,000 Bosnian Muslims who were considered by UN officials to

    be missing after the fall of Srebrenica HAVE MADE THEIR WAY THROUGH ENEMY LINES TO BOSNIAN

    GOVERNMENT TERRITORY. The group, which included wounded refugees, sneaked past Serb lines

    under fire and crossed some 30 miles through forests to safety.”

    [Chris Hedges; Conflict in the Balkans: In Bosnia; Muslim Refugees Slip Across Serb

    Lines; New York Times; July 18, 1995, p. 7.]

    May the G-d’s honest TRUTH set us all free.

    Shalom,Shalom from your dear friends:

    Joshua,Peter,Nathan and Felix from https://4international.wordpress.com

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