By Felix Quigley
August 25, 2008
In this article I simply concentrate on soem of the many comments of Yamit82 on Israpundit which lies about the Georgian issue. All is directed to hiding the truth of the Georgian Saakashvili attack on the Ossetians. It is a big issue for leadership why these American, Canadian and Israeli Jews are hiding this.
We on this site 4international fully defend Israel as the Jewish Homeland against Antisemitism. But we will oppose lies from Jewish leaders.
The writers who now control the website Israpundit are first and foremost the editor Ted Belman who is a supporter, despite all he has done against the Jews, of Bush.
The other three writers with a big say are in order Bill Levinson, Yamit82 and Jerry Gordon. You could say that the output of these 4 control Israpundit.
Yamit82 who now as the most prolific commenter controls much of Israpundit thanks to Belman writes on the Georgia issue on the thread Russia on the prowl http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=2127
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(It is not clear whether Yamit82 int he following is quoting or whether this is his own)
Georgia-Russia: A very small genocide
Instead of the earlier claim of thousands dead, both Russians and Georgians published moderate figures:
215 Georgians, 64 Russian soldiers, and 133 Ossetians – most of them, presumably, from the Russian-armed militia. The relatively heavy Russian losses are surprising; Israeli-trained Georgians fared not that bad against the prevailing Russian forces.
The hypocrisy around the Russian-Georgian conflict is staggering. For years, Russia subverted Georgian rule in Ossetia and Abkhazia by freely issuing Russian passports to locals. Evidently prompted by Russia, Ossetians started the current round by attacks on Georgians. Russian police operates in Georgia border regions.
America accepted Russia’s mild violations of Georgia’s jurisdiction, though Georgia is a staunch US ally even in Iraq. The US Administration de facto accepted Ossetia and Abkhazia ceding from Georgia, though not Chechnya from Russia, even though the cases are similar: in all those regions, locals overwhelmingly demand cessation.
Russia on the prowl. Israpundit, comment 2
Yamit82 quotes Michael Travis
Georgia? It’s in flames. And the world stands at the precipice of global conflagration. But, hey! The U.S. Team won over 90 medals as of today!
At this point in time, the United States lacks clearly stated foreign policy, backed by a determined military command. Political Correctness and public relations considerations have revealed an Administration in disarray, with undefined priorities. Without a convincing display of solidarity with our allies, America’s reputation will be tarnished beyond repair.
With the demise of our perceived credibility and the loss of our traditional sphere of influence, attacks against U.S. interests abroad, and terror operations on American soil seem inevitable. Negotiating with terrorists and enabling despotic regimes under the dubious banner of “Democratization” has put American lives in peril and set the stage for more regional conflicts.
Remember, Russia, Iran and Lebanon are all “vibrant democracies,” yet they represent America’s deadliest enemies.
Michael Travis is Research/Analyst with Gerard Group.
Comment by yamit82 — August 21, 2008 @ 6:16 pm
Comment by Yamit82 this time quoting Victor David Hanson
The rest of America: My lord, Putin is acting just like Brezhnev! But they told us that he just wanted to democratize and reform Russia, integrate with NATO and the EU, and help fight radical Islam! So why did he get angry with Georgia when it just wanted to do the same things he was supposed to be doing? That backstabber wasn’t honest with us!
Bottom line: Now what?
The more Russia promises to leave Georgia, the more it seems to stay put. One reason may be that Putin keeps counting on us either to be confused, contradictory or angrier at ourselves than at Russia over his latest aggression. And given our inability to speak with one voice, he seems to be absolutely right
Comment by yamit82 — August 22, 2008 @ 7:17 am
Comment 24 Yamit82 quoting Michael Ledeen
No Options? Nonsense.
Michael Ledeen – Aug 15, 2008
Over and over again, in tones ranging from annoyance to paternalistic, the pundits tell us that “there is no military option” with regard to the Russian invasion of Georgia. And in case you missed the point, they will tell you that we’re not going to war with Russia over this particular crisis. Not for little Georgia, so unimportant, so far away. It’s very hard to find any of the leading commentators who thinks otherwise.
It’s an odd way to formulate the issue, since Russia has gone to war with us. Georgia is our ally. As of the time of the invasion, there were more than 150 American military men and women in Georgia, training the locals for self-defense. We are sponsoring Georgian entry into NATO, along with Ukraine. It sure looks like an attack against us. And it’s conjoined to an ultimatum from the Russian foreign minister, who said that the United States would have to choose between good relations with Russia and friendship with our “virtual ally” Georgia.
If you expand your vision of the strategic board from the Caucasus to include the Middle East, you see that the Russians are working in close tandem with other countries that are waging war on us. Syria uses Russian weapons and is installing Russian anti-aircraft systems, as is Iran. And the Iranian nuclear program, which the leaders of the West have elevated to the number one issue in the region, is essentially a Russian program, involving Russian nuclear physicists and Russian nuclear technology. But there, too, the pundits and the policy makers have concluded that there is no military option, that we’re not going to war over this particular crisis. Not to stop Iran from going nuclear. Others have the bomb, after all. And Iran is so far away.
Many others have noticed the grim similarity between such comments and Chamberlain’s historic remarks about the Nazi invasion of Czechoslovakia. Few have quoted Churchill, whose words should be posted on every computer in the National Security Council: “(Chamberlain) had a choice between war and dishonor. He chose dishonor, and he got war.”
We’ve got war already, and it was a big war, long before the invasion of Georgia. The battlefield runs from Afghanistan into Somalia, Iraq, Lebanon, and Israel, across northern Africa, and deep into Europe. The latest Russian gambit is part of that big war, as any of our friends and allies in the war zone will tell you. Insofar as America is seen as weak, our enemies will redouble their actions and our friends will hold back, fearing that association with us will not protect them, and single them out for attack. Those consequences are immediate, traveling across the airwaves of the BBC and al Jazeera and the other propaganda outlets favored by our enemies. The Chinese, who will feel free to bare their fangs after their Potemkin Olympics, may be emboldened to move against Taiwan, another small place very far away.
Once you grasp the full dimensions of the war, it becomes easier to conceive useful options, military and other. We are well placed to demonstrate that this is not a one-way street. The Russians think they have shown that it’s costly to be a friend of the United States. We need to show that there can be a high price for friendship with the bear. It is long past time for us to strike at the terrorist training camps inside those two nasty Russian allies, Syria and Iran. Moreover, we have political weapons the Russians can’t use, namely support for freedom. Their friends and allies are tyrants, and their subjects are on our side of the political divide. Support for the repressed peoples of Russia’s buddies — also long overdue — can, at a minimum, compel the tyrants to worry about their own survival rather than the destruction of our security interests. And we have every chance of success, without firing a shot or dropping a bomb. The Syrian and Iranian people are a more powerful weapon than anything the Russians used against the Georgian people. I dare say that Saakashvili’s support is much greater today than it was a week ago, while the dictators in Tehran and Damascus know well that if their people had a free choice, they’d be headed for safe havens outside the Middle East.
So instead of the incantation “we won’t go to war over this,” serious people in the West must accept the fact that the war is on, and we must find ways to win it. We have enormous advantages, there’s no excuse for the years of dithering.
Michael Ledeen is Freedom Scholar at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.
Comment by yamit82 — August 23, 2008 @ 2:42
All of these comments are pushing the line that Russia is the enemy of America and that Jews have got to side with America.
They have spread a lie that Russia it was who attacked Georgia. This lie has been repeated continuously on Israpundit. Never ONCE have they investigated the Georgian attack on South Ossetia.
This is the kind of site that Israpundit has now become. It represents the extreme crisis in the leadership of the Jewish people.
We say that the Jewish people must have a new leadership. The people who write on Israpundit are simply nothing more than American Imperialists, supporters and admirers of the American and indeed British Imperialist systems.
When it comes right down to it I can see little difference between any of these Jewish writers at present and Imperialist scribes.
Yet the struggle for a Jewish Homeland remains and Jews are in huge danger from Antisemitism.