by Felix Quigley

January 29, 2009

The Jewish struggle especially from 1850 onwards to identify themselves as a nation and to create a National Homeland is absolutely central to the whole perspective of Socialist Revolution. If one accepts that capitalism, once a revolutionary system and the capitalist class a revolutionary class, but that it is in its death agony, meaning that it can not bring mankind forward… If socialism is the logical answer… Then it is inconceivable that in the creation of a new form of society on earth that central in that new form could not be the right of Jews to live unmolested by anti-Semitism. This is what makes our website 4international different. We see the national struggle of the Jews in particular, and national issues in general, as central in the socialist revolution.

In recent weeks at the time of the war in Gaza we have experienced once again antisemitic mobs on the streets of cities and towns in Europe, America and Canada led by Islamofascists and by so called Leftists. Most of the Left is now allied with Islam. But they all breed on ignorance. This issue is not covered historically in a comprehensive way. This is what we willnow do on this site. Each article will have a title and will be numbered.

 The following are a few introductory points:

1.      Neither Marx, Engels, Luxemburg, Lenin or Trotsky paid any proper attention to this question. But it goes deeper than just the Jews. Since the Jews represented the oldest and most determined national struggle for self liberation that the world has known, definitely the longest, then it follows from the above that their tardiness in recognizing Jewish nationalism was but a reflection of how these socialist revolutionaries looked on nationalism as a whole.

2.      However it is completely anti dialectical to thereby reject what has become known as Marxism. It Marxism merely follows the path of knowledge and since man is a human and animal being then he has to move in his thinking from ignorance or incomplete knowledge to fuller knowledge. This dialectical process is shown very clearly in the close relationship between the thoughts of Leon Trotsky and the thoughts of Herzl

3.      To review quickly these revolutionary socialist leaders. Marx and Engels made their huge development by explaining in a scientific manner how capitalism worked and necessarily paying close attention to the phenomenon of capitalist system and its development historically. Lenin and Trotsky made their development in the field of revolutionary practice centering on the building of the scientific party leadership. Lenin while he did not recognize the Jews as a nation nevertheless held the Jews in very high esteem as a people. Trotsky it was who mirrored this interconnection between the socialist revolution and the Jewish perspectives most deeply. At no point in the life of Trotsky was he separate from this issue, from the reporting of the Sixth Zionist Congress in 1903, Herzl’s last, right to the time of his death in 1940. It is this inter relationship which is of the greatest moment today as we try to untangle this web of political struggles, political positions taken and eventual synthesis. This will therefore be part of our History of the Jews. We are dialectical materialists and nothing else. We stand for Jewish nationalism and the rights of Jewish nationalism including the right to be Jewish in all respects. In doing so we are fighting for this in the death agony of the capitalist system. This is what makes us different to every other political tendency. Nothing like us exists anywhere. If there does email us rapidly to let us know! We will return to this again. We are revolutionary socialists and that colours everything we do.

The following is a tentative outline which we will follow




·         The origins of the Jewish nation, a very old people, years of independence as a nation, the bible of the Jews the first expression of national self consciousness written down, return from exile in Babylon with their bible and self consciousness as a nation

·         The two major Jewish revolts against the Roman tyrants, the first Holocausts of the Jews, driven into Exile, fighting qualities of the Jews against the tyrants

·         The Jesus experience

·         Christian anti-Semitism, sayings of the saints

·         Karl Marx, whether he expressed it correctly or not, Marx did show that Jews played a role in the formation of capitalism, answer to those who say Marx was anti-Semitic is in his visit to Jerusalem 1854, Marx in his way showed the Jews attachment to the land of Israel, that is Palestine

·         Next year in Jerusalem, the ancient prayer of the exile, over 2000 year duration

·         The return, the Jews never ever stole land from a single Arab, how it worked, the Jews bought land from all too willing Arab sellers at inflated prices, in other words for their purchase the Jews paid dearly

·         Hopes of the returning Jews, that they would find a space and would help the Arabs to a better life, they were thinking cooperation

·         From Hess to Herzl, the concept was the same…without a Homeland the Jews are vulnerable

·         The genius of Herzl lay not in the Dreyfus Affair in France but in sensing the huge changes that would usher in wide spread anti-Semitism in the break up of the Austro Hungarian Empire. He sensed this somewhat instinctively and it was here that the mass Jew killing took place some 50 years or so later. Herzl did great things but everything pales in relation to this spot of genius

·         The end of the 1914 to 1918 World War saw great geographical and social change. But it also ushered in the first evidence of Arab Nazism based on a combination of the Imperialist nature of Islam, long hidden by Western powers like Britain, with sheer and brutal hatred of Jews, Jew Hatred also known as anti-Semitism, despite the Arabs also being a Semitic people the word refers only to hatred of Jews in common parlance. We meet the main character in many ways in our history, Hajj Amin el Husseini, also known as the Mufti of Jerusalem. The significance of this man in our historical narrative cannot be underestimated

·         Most people today do not understand the geographical equation. The area offered to the Jews centred on their ancient Judea in Palestine was a very small area indeed in proportion to the enormous vastness of the land given to the Arabs after 1918, with the added paradox that the Arabs were on the losing side in that war. An acquaintance with nothing more prosaic than maps will help to clarify

·         It is vital to understand clearly these League of Nations machinations. How the Jews were well and truly tricked by Churchill who posed as a friend of the Jews. That the false terms left and right used in Israeli politics stem from the Churchill action of giving 78 per cent of the Jewish Homeland to the Arabs, as starters!

·         The various pogroms against the Jews organized by Hajj Amin el Husseini, especially 1920, 1929 and 1936 to 39. Study of this begins to clarify that the Jews were unprepared for dealing with modern Fascism and modern Racism,

·         The material roots to German and Italian Nazism. The material roots to Islam Nazism. The alliance that they formed through the alliance of Hajj Amin el Husseini with Hitler, and Hitler-s acolytes in the practice of the Holocaust, Heydrich, Eichmann and Himmler. The alliance of Arab Nazism and German Nazism was both natural and inevitable. When one talks German Nazism, or Fascism in general, a modern phenomenon then we enter into the mind of the expert in this, that is Leon Trotsky. Would one discuss the theory of relativity and ignore Einstein!

·         The el Husseini political itinerary…Close examination of the meeting of Hajj Amin el Husseini with Adolf Hitler in November 1941, the timing of this meeting a few months before the Wannsee Conference organized to bring about the “Final Solution” involving the gassing of the Jews. The connection between Wannsee and the closing of borders to Jews by Britain, America, France, Ireland, Spain etc etc. All these anti-Semitic hypocrites were implicated in the Nazi Holocaust!

·         The Holocaust that the “Jewish” American Neocons hate to talk about took place in Yugoslavia. The Arab from Palestine Hajj Amin el Husseini was in control here and working closely with the Islamofascist Elija Izetbegovic. He was promoted as the key figure in the defeat of the Serbs by Clinton and by Holbrook. And who are the main people Obama has chosen, Clintons wife and Holbrook. A new reactionary force in politics, the reactionary “humanitarians”, really Imperialists in disguise, centered around Harry’s Place and people like Oliver Kamm. Our first modern experience of the Lies of the Media.

·         Apart from Yugoslavia Hajj Amin was absolutely central in the overall Holocaust. Hajj Amin is responsible for easily 1 in 15 of all who died in the Holocaust, a significant number for one man, a non German. Not taught in schools in the West. Martin Gilbert non coverage. Why this is systematically hidden.

·         El Husseini and Hitler were equals in their Jew Murdering life project. The developing relationship between these monsters. Hitler had promised el Husseini that he el Husseini would be in charge of the Holocaust in Palestine and in the Arab countries such as Tunisia and Morocco. So we look at the evidence of Mallman who writes that a team of the Einsatzgruppe was standing by in Athens ready to move in, when Rommel won through in North Africa. The team was led in the first instance by Walter Rauff who had invented the Gas Van method of killing Jews. But Rauff was answerable to El Husseini and Eichmann. If Rommel had not been defeated in North Africa then every Jew in Palestine would have died horrible deaths. What happened in the Baltics throws light on what might have happened to the Jews in Palestine and in the North African countries.

·         Britain and the Jews. How did they go from the honorable position of Lord Balfour to the rabid anti-Semitism of Nye Bevin and many others in the British Establishment? Bevin and his like have a great responsibility for the 6 millions of dead Jews in the Holocaust. The importance of Cromwell in this regard. The nature of the British Restoration of the Monarchy in this regard also. The social conditions for extreme anti-Semitism in the British ruling establishment class

·         More on…The progressive influence of the Bible on a section of British society which influenced Lord Balfour. The first signs of anti-Semitic Jews emerged in Britain at this time. British aristocratic anti-Semitism merges with Labour aristocracy anti-Semitism

·         Role of the British army, enemies of the Bolsheviks, enemies of the Jews, a crude link but a true one. So in 1920 the British aristocracy and the British army takes the Fascist el Husseini under their wing. In fact they make the career of the Mufti. The strange paradox, the British were denigrating the Mandate even before they undertook the Mandate

·         The role of the British in detail, emphasis here on the role of the British in the critical moments for the Jews. Especially 1920 pogrom. 1929 pogrom, 1936 pogrom, 1939 to 45 the Holocaust, 1947 the UN vote for partition and British abstention, 1948 importing of Nazis to fight the Jews as Britain sides with Arab Fascists, 1948 Britain bowing out with blood on its hands and in the company of German Nazis

·         And the US takes over. Just at the time when the US is recruiting tens of thousands of Nazis to fight the Jews and to fight against Communism in Europe. The US record towards the Jews from 1948 to the present has been researched and it shows the US capitalist class is the enemy of the Jews

·         Carter and Khomeini, Bush and the Saudis, Bush drives for Palestine state out of Israel land. Bush opens the door to Iran domination through the Iraq war. Little understood that Israel opposed the Iraq war.

·         Anti-Semitic forces in the US, Walt and Meirshammer

·         Opening the door for the Obama nexus. From Bush through McCain to Obama a seamless quilt made up of hatred of Israel

·         The Gaza war…emergence of anti-Semitic forces in every country in the world. Anti-Semitic banners openly carried on marches and demonstrators. Police accept this hate crime…against Jews. While opponents of Islam start to be imprisoned

·         The Left implodes on the Jewish issue! The Left marches with the Islamofascists. Palestinianism is modern anti-Semitism. The same hatred as the Nazis in the Holocaust but slightly adapted for public fools consumption

·         The Left are betraying socialist principles. Jew hatred not part of socialist tradition. Marx visit to Jerusalem, Lenin, the Black 100s and hatred of anti-Semitism, disgust of Trotsky with anti-Semitism, his realization and analysis that Stalin was using anti-Semitism against the Left Opposition, the Herzl Trotsky dialectic, Trotsky the main fighter against the Nazis, prediction of the Nazi Holocaust, unity of Trotsky with the Jews, Trotsky fights for Jewish state did this herald a Zionism of a new type, the Stalinist killing machine and decimation of the forces of Trotskyism and the Left Opposition in Russia, Germany, France and Spain. Finally the murder of Trotsky in Mexico

·         The Trotsky fight against the impressionism of Shachtman and Burnham. This impressionism carried on by first of all Cliff and Mandel, then by Cannon and Healy. The criminal anti-Semitism of Healy and the Redgraves now carried on especially by the SWP and WSWS but really by all the “Left” including the Matgamma group. The roots of this anti-Semitism lie not in socialism but in the Stalinist murder of socialists, especially the murder of Trotsky who had potentially many years left to live. Study of the impressionism of Healy and Redgrave leads into an understanding of the present “Left” becoming an agent of Islamic Imperialism. Inability to deal with the Jews leads to the working class left without socialist leaders in a period of greatest crisis ever in world capitalism.

·         Modern day Fascism and political correctness, the hounding of Mark Steyne by Canadian Rights Groups, the hounding of Jews by the Israel Supreme Court, the hounding and now persecution of Geert Wilderrs in Holland by a pro Islam establishment

·         Fascism is emerging but in different forms to the 1930s. Look for differences but the content is the same. History repeats but never in exactly the same way. The new Fascism is focused in the Wilders case

·         The dangerous political correctness of David and gene in Harry’s Place. The new forces of revolution tend to burst through the old forms. The Serb haters like Venishka are now robustly challenged on Harry’s Place by new entrants like New Oxfordian. Venishka the scourge on HP of the Serbs emerges in conflict with these new forces defending the Nazi Youth Pope Benedict

·         The British workers in general remain true to the traditions of Magna Carta and of Cromwell. The workers opposed to political correctness. The British workers are the natural opponents of the Fascist Islamists and enter into conflict with their own capitalist rulers not only on the economy, but on these vital political issues of Fascism and Islamofascism

·         Northern Ireland the right wing Provo terrorists enter parliament. The destruction of democratic rights brought about by George Mitchell. How it was a step to Nazi fascism of today… 16, 000 pounds sterling for killers. The absurdity of the Northern Ireland “Peace” Movement

·         Fitting that Peace leader Maguire should join with the anti-Semitic ISM in attacks on the Jews of Israel. The Irish must pay their debts, not to Arafat and the Nazi el Husseini, but to Irish national liberation fighter and associate of Mick Collins, that is pay your debt to Jewish man from Dublin Ben Briscoe

·         Powell was closer to the needs of the British workers than was or is Livingstone

·         What we need today above all. Perhaps the biggest lie of all that the party of Lenin was not democratic. There was intense discussion within. How you know an anti-Semite today…linking Israel with Nazi Germany. How you know a communist baiter and hater…mixing up Lenin and Trotsky with Stalin and Stalinism. But we do need discussion in may areas today. And we do need to build up our Trotskyist organization to promote and to help promote that discussion. The discussion must take place.

·         In this regard the key importance of the American working class and ordinary people


by Felix Quigley

January 28, 2009

The past weeks have been politically eventful and momentous.


Yesterday the reality of the situation facing the Jews of Israel was there to see for anybody who wants to see. A bunch of Hamas killers lay in wait, then exploded IRA style a bomb under a jeep, a young soldier dies, many injured, shouts of Allah is Great etc, grenades thrown at the soldiers. And Al Qaida style a video is made of it all


It was of course Hamas. All political Fascist groups inside the Gaza are under the direct control of Hamas.


This is a repeat of Arafat. While Holbrook and co were travelling to talk to Arafat, while Arafat was being feted in the White House by Clinton, Arafat was paying the wages with EU money and with US money paid by tax payers of the killers of other groups.


Arafat could then say. It wasn’t us chum. It was them ones


Exactly the same with Hamas and it happened during the so called truce much referred to by enemies of Israel and by the haters of Israel.


These haters of Israel, these present day anti-Semites, with their honeyed words say “Oh but Hamas kept the truce. It was Israel who broke the truce”


These types are not out on demos. They occupy radio and television stations you see. But their clever and honeyed words are disguising their disgusting hatred of Israel which is also their disgusting anti-Semitism.


They shrilled for Hamas in the war. Now they shrill again for Hamas by ignoring this murder across the border.


This is what happened yesterday and this should be rammed down the throats of these honeyed antisemites. This is Hamas.

Hamas are repeating what the IRA Provisionals used to do in the North of Ireland, much quoted now as an example. Whenever somebody like Mitchel would be coming to the province the IRA would kill somebody or let off an explosion. “Look how important we are. You can do nothing without us”

I cannot see much difference with this Hamas killing of this Israeli yesterday. Look Mitchel, they are saying, we rule here so you will have to deal with us directly.

DEBKAfile got it right on this

[Begin quote from DEBKA here]

    Hamas initiated the clash for the benefit of US president Barack Obama’s Middle East envoy George Mitchell the day before he arrives for his first visit to the region. It was a reminder to Washington that hostilities in Gaza would not end so long as Washington ignores Hamas.  

    They are reigniting the flames in Gaza to show the US president that his instruction to his envoy to stabilize the ceasefire is meaningless because neither he, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak or Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert can make a ceasefire hold without Hamas’ concurrence.


To return to the demonstrations on Gaza which remain in our minds…

Meanwhile the repercussions of those demonstrations on Gaza remain in mind. These demos were anti-Semitism in action. A large anti-Semitic contingent now exists in every country in the world, especially in America and Europe.


This is made up of anti-Semitic Palestinian Arabs, and others, who are joined by movements who are renegades from true socialism like the SWP, WRP etc. These now form a large body prepared to take to the streets and challenge the police in every country, but from the right, just like the Nazis did.


Do not be confused by the use of the term “socialist” in the names of groups like the SWP. These are anti-Semitic and Fascist. Come to think of it the Nazis used the word “socialist” as well.


The main placards carried on their demos were “ZioNazi” and “Gaza Holocaust” and on the San Francisco demo “Jews are Murderers”. Plus many others on the same theme.


We on 4international now warn all our readers as to how to spot a Nazi and an Anti-Semite. We say that a sure sign is this linking the Jews of today with Nazis. That has been the dominant theme on these Fascist and Right Wing demos. That has been the dominant memory.


The task ahead is to build up the organization around the 4international. This is what we will devote ourselves to


It will be in continual struggle against these modern anti-Semites who come in many guises. But it all centres on those who are lining up with the “Palestinian” Arabs, which is the very centre of the anti-Semitic attack on Jews today. We will explain in detail what exactly this term “Palestinian” really means. The material we will publish soon will not have been published ever before.


Shortly we will announce plans on how to build our organization.


We do recognize that much of the evil work of these anti-Semites who liken Israel to Nazi Germany is based on total ignorance of history.


Consequently with great determination we will begin publishing on this site the real history of the Jews in the modern period and how they will never have peace as long as this anti-Semitic hatred of Jews remains.


And this is the way that we will avenge the murder of this young Israeli soldier by anti-Semitic murderers with their shouts of Allah is Great.


We will show that it is not Allah who is great, but scientific knowledge is great and is unstoppable. We believe in humanity.


We will be asking our readers and people we meet to join our truly great organization on that basis.


Let us leave the crap of fascism behind and forge a future.


by Felix Quigley

January 27, 2009

These are important observations about Obama´s America. The whole process was begun by Carter, Clinton and Bush Jnr. It was under Carter that an alliance was reached with Bin Laden in Afghanistan against the Soviets. It was in Bosnia that an alliance was reached with the Islamofascist and Muslim Brotherhood life long member Elija Izetbegovic against the Serbs, and it was under Bush Jnr that an alliance was reached with Islam on the cinders of the Twin Towers when Bush appeared with Imans spouting that Islam was a religion of peace. Bush went on to push this alliance further with his world wide call for a Palestine state, the biggest sop of all to Islam.

Now there is to all intents and purposes a Muslim man and a Muslim woman in the White house. They operate under the guise of being Christians, that is Christians and Americans who are dhimmis of the Islam ideology. Whether they are consciously Muslim or not they are dhimmis and are seeking now for the great US democracy to become a fully fledged member of the dhimmi community, since Europe is already (follow links to EUrabia in Google)

This Al Arabiya interview is all important in this process. Amazing, utterly amazing stuff

[start Obama interview with Al Arabiya here]

Barack Obama presented a humble and conciliatory face of America to the Islamic world Monday in the first formal interview since he assumed office, stressing his own Muslim ties and hopes for a Palestinian state, and avoiding a belligerent tone — even when asked if America could “live with” an Iranian nuclear weapon.

The interview with the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya Network was a dramatic piece of public diplomacy aimed at capitalizing on the new American president‘s international popularity, though it balanced America’s traditional commitment to Israel, whose security Obama called “paramount.’

“I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim countries,” Obama said, according to a White House transcript. “My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy.”

The Al Arabiya interview, directed squarely at Muslims around the world, revived a vision of personal, symbolic international change that was in the air when Obama – with his far-flung family members, and complicated story – launched his campaign. It was a vision, and an aspect of his story, that the candidate buried when, in 2007, was forced to combat whispering campaigns about his own faith.

But by giving his first interview to the Arabic network, Obama signaled his continuing belief in his personal power as a symbol of America against the temptations of Islamic militancy. He even dismissed “bankrupt” ideas and policies that don’t improve children’s health care, jabbing at “nervous” Al Qaeda leaders in language that echoed his campaign against George W. Bush.

The occasion for this interview was the departure of Obama’s special envoy, George Mitchell, to the Middle East, and a more aggressive and optimistic approach to that conflict than some argued that the circumstances dictated. The president offered no timeline for peace, but a firm view that a Palestinian state remains within reach.

“What I told him is start by listening, because all too often the United States starts by dictating — in the past on some of these issues — and we don’t always know all the factors that are involved,” Obama said. “What we want to do is to listen, set aside some of the preconceptions that have existed and have built up over the last several years. And I think if we do that, then there’s a possibility at least of achieving some breakthroughs.” 

Obama’s interview was marked by attempts to sympathize with the concerns of ordinary Muslims, particularly on the question of living conditions in the West Bank. But he sought a conciliatory tone throughout the interview, at one point avoiding even restating American policy, and his own platform, than an Iranian nuclear weapon is plainly unacceptable.

“Will the United States ever live with a nuclear Iran? And if not, how far are you going in the direction of preventing it?” asked the interviewer, Al Arabiya Washington Bureau Chief Hisham Melhem.

Obama responded only generally, expressing disapproval of an Iranian bomb but not the flat condemnation that is standard from American officials.

“You know, I said during the campaign that it is very important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of U.S. power, including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran,” he said. “Now, the Iranian people are a great people, and Persian civilization is a great civilization. Iran has acted in ways that’s not conducive to peace and prosperity in the region: their threats against Israel; their pursuit of a nuclear weapon which could potentially set off an arms race in the region that would make everybody less safe; their support of terrorist organizations in the past — none of these things have been helpful.”

During the campaign and transition periods, Obama’s condemnations of an Iranian nuclear weapon were more direct: “[T]heir development of nuclear weapons would be unacceptable,” Obama said on Meet the Press on December 7.

A senior Obama aide said Monday night that Obama had not changed his views on Iran.

Obama also signaled a move away from President Bush‘s confrontational, generalizing language. Melhem noted to Obama that “President Bush framed the war on terror conceptually in a way that was very broad, ‘war on terror,’ and used sometimes certain terminology that the many people — Islamic fascism. You’ve always framed it in a different way, specifically against one group called al Qaeda and their collaborators.”

“I think that you’re making a very important point. And that is that the language we use matters,” Obama replied. “[W]hat we need to understand is, is that there are extremist organizations — whether Muslim or any other faith in the past — that will use faith as a justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name.

“And so you will I think see our administration be very clear in distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda — that espouse violence, espouse terror and act on it — and people who may disagree with my administration and certain actions, or may have a particular viewpoint in terms of how their countries should develop,” he said. “We can have legitimate disagreements but still be respectful. I cannot respect terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians and we will hunt them down.”

Obama’s shift Monday was one of tone, not of policy, and he also affirmed America’s support for Israel.

“Israel is a strong ally of the United States. They will not stop being a strong ally of the United States. And I will continue to believe that Israel’s security is paramount,” he said. “But I also believe that there are Israelis who recognize that it is important to achieve peace. They will be willing to make sacrifices if the time is appropriate and if there is serious partnership on the other side.”

Obama’s interview plan was made public only Monday afternoon, and the interview, which concluded just after 6:00 p.m., was distributed to reporters in the evening and embargoed for release at 11:00 p.m.

Asked why Al Arabiya had been granted the president’s first interview, and aide said: “We want to communicate directly to the entire world America’s new foreign policy.”

Jonathan Martin contributed to this story



We have noted the way that the whole of the Left, including even the group run by Sean Matgamma, engaged in an anti-Semitic screech at the time of the Gaza war.


What our questions to Matgamma on the pro Imperialist and racist Harry’s Place showed clearly that his group is pro Hamas and is in fact anti-Semitic. A matter of degrees this anti-Semitism.


But the Left is infested with anti-Semitism now.


Some do not like the word but it suits and it fits. When you have groups and individuals who are likening the Jews of Israel today to the Nazis of the Holocaust infamy then THAT IS ANTISEMITISM!


But it would be totally wrong to think that it is only these renegades from revolutionary socialism who spread anti-Semitism. That is the pro Imperialist position of Ted Belman, Sultan Knish and their like.


There are others. So who else is promoting anti-Semitism?


Top of our list goes George Bush Jnr and the whole of the Neocons movement. It was Bush who did 2 critical things against the Jews and against Israel their only Homeland.


  1. Bush was the first US president to come out openly and call for a Palestine state to be set up on historical Jewish land, historical in two senses, it was Judea which was the centre of their culture now the West Bank, and secondly this Palestine state is on land given by the League of Nations forerunner of the United Nations to the Jews in Versailles and in the San Remo Treaty of 1920
  2. Bush struck against Saddam and Iraq and left Iran alone. ISRAEL WAS OPPOSED TO THE BUSH WAR ON IRAQ. What Bush did was to remove the major rival for Iran in the area. Even though Saddam was a tyrant he was also a bitter enemy of Shia Islam and of Iran. THE IRAQ WAR GREATLY STRENGTHENED IRAN, HAMAS AND HIZBULLAH.


And it was this Bush regime, and the US Neocons, who crushed Serbia or who continued the repression of the Serbs begun by Clinton.


That meant also lining up with Islamofascism, in that case with the Islamofascist Izetbegovic, who was clearly from beginning to end a clerical Fascist.


And in crushing the Serbs the Neocons were crushing the Serbs as natural allies of the Jews.


The Clinton and Bush regimes were a disaster for Israel; and for Jews in every part of the world and ushered in the great danger of a Holocaust and destruction of Israel under Obama.


Please see our separate article on how close in actuality is US Imperialism under Obama to the Islamofascists who hate Israel so.


That is the general trend under Bush and Obama. They may both say they support Israel etc, but those are words. Underneath the surface the reality is ALWAYS different to words.


It is our task to uncover the objective processes underneath the froth of politics and Media.


by Felix Quigley

January 26, 2009

After the demonstrations against Israel in which Islamists and Leftists were carrying clearly anti-Semitic images on their placards there is now no way back for the so called “Left” and a new, completely new leadership must be created.


Note…Anti-Semitism is promoted and carried forward by more than Islam and the Left. But on the demos it was the left and Islamist who were promoting this anti-Semitism.


Anybody who likens in any small way or big way Israel to the Nazis IS AN ANTISEMITE.


Got that! Can we on 4international make that any clearer? And therefore we pledge ourselves to fight these anti-Semites politically.


One individual called Sean Matgamma some thought was making a move away from this anti-Semitism. However the pro Imperialist Oliver Kamm inspired Harry’s Place offered a lot to his movement to place their views on the Gaza wars and demonstrations.


It emerged essentially as a anti-Semitic piece itself and I proved this by my challenge on Harry’s Place to Matgamma. There was no answer. This has got some significance to put it mildly. It means that there is not other political tendency which can genuinely call itself as following the principles of Leon Trotsky but this site 4international.



by Felix Quigley

January 19, 2009

The Jewish army of Israel was fighting for all progressive people in the world in the battle against Hamas. Hamas is such an obviously Fascist and Reactionary movement, one would think that the Jewish army of the IDF would be cheered from the rafters in every country. THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED. And this is the thing about this war that has to be explained, no half measures, the sharpest conclusions have to be reached


  1. We on 4international support the high spirits of the Israeli army cadets as they withdrew knowing that they had defeated the Fascists and that they were going home safe to their beloved JEWISH HOMELAND. The surly and cowardly unleashing of 5 rockets on Israel by Hamas after the ceasefire and their empty guff about no truce until Israel totally withdraw shows them up for the windbags that they are. Of course they will fire more, Israel will continue to be hit by rockets and the Media will be silent. Imagine the Hamas leader emerging out of his bunker under an Israeli built hospital in Gaza and proclaiming victory! Imagine the political pygmy Ahmadinejad congratulating them on their victory!!! Hamas was beaten off the ball park by far superior fighters and that is not counting the technological power of Israel. The fact is that the Israeli youth went in to the back streets of Hamas land, took them on their own ground and beat the dickens out of them. Hamas are cowardly terrorists, it is one thing strapping on a vest in the stupid and insipid belief of 72 virgins at the end, that is many Jews will die but THEY will be all right is about the sum of it, and it is quite another thing facing true national fighters. The true national fighters were the Jews. The phoniness of Media construct “Palestinianism” was exposed. The Jews of Israel have thus taken a major step forward into the new era of defending their state, their religion and their age old customs.
  2. This unfortunately is not the end of the story. What also emerged in this war was the sight of major anti-Semitic demonstrations taking place in Europe, Canada and America. In opposition to these very large demonstrations there were small demos of very courageous in the main Jewish people living in these countries. And these, Toronto being a case in point, were threatened by the Fascist “Palestinians” while the police told the Jews that they the police would not or could not protect them!
  3. There was very little else which was able to pose an alternative to these reactionary forces that were holding on their marches the most anti-Semitic of slogans that has been seen since the 1930s. This is not the result of the Jewish war in Gaza, this is because the Jews are fighting to defend their way of life. In other words it is purely and totally anti-Semitism. It just did not mysteriously happen that in January of 2009 that these hordes of many stupid, uneducated and bigoted against Jews people took to the streets of major and not so major towns and capitals in Europe and North America. It did not happen in the slightest spontaneously. This had been worked for and prepared for consciously over many decades.
  4. The theme on all of the “Palestinian” demos against the Jews and Israel was that the Jews are the new Nazis. This is the essence in fact of all of the propaganda now surrounding Israel. It is in actual fact an extension of the Big Lie itself that the Nazis promulgated all those years ago.
  5. This Big Lie has been carried on since 1945 by these… Firstly by the Arab and Muslim oil fuelled forces in the world. Secondly by the Stalinist Communist Parties out of Moscow and Peking, now joined by Chavez, Morales etc. These are now joined by renegades from Trotskyism who by their actions trample on historical fact, since as we know Trotsky supported the Jewish state and opposed Islam.
  6. How were these anti-Semitic marches against Israel organized? Well specifically from the above two main constituencies. Let us spend a moment to look more closely at them.
  7. Firstly from the hordes of Muslims, Palestinian Arabs and others who are in every European and American country. They were the backbone of the marches. These are not ordinary refugees into a country. These marches showed that they were people who had come with a mission. These Palestinian, Arab, other marchers were carrying on the streets of Europe anti-Semitic placards, placards which were hate mongering. And the key thing is they were not only allowed to do so by the forces of the state, it is against most laws of most states, but a blind eye was turned on these hate filled and anti-Semitic messages by the Media. An example of this I saw with my own eyes…At the head of one march I saw in Murcia city were Muslim women clad in their repressive gear and they were pushing prams, quite deliberately carrying on the lying propaganda against Jews, that Jews kill children, consciously using the Blood Libel. On these marches and on every interview and every bulletin was the message that Jews kill Children.
  8. Secondly these Muslim reactionaries were joined and led by the Left, but this was a very strange kind of left figure, here as a Trotskyist I assert most strongly that these were not in any way Left of centre at all, but were as right wing as were Hitler’s storm troopers. The Left has joined the Fascists.


So be absolutely certain. Not anti-Semitism in general in Europe and America. But anti-Semitism promoted by very specific agencies which I have identified above. Otherwise how can you explain that the British workers are opposed to Islam and they in general take up a position which is progressive and right.


The task of Trotskyists is thus to give hope and leadership to the great mass and not to allow these Fascists of Muslims and Left to take over. To pass off the mass as anti-Semitic in general absolves who says that from doing anything.


We now turn to the War, where we are now, what is the next step.


The Jewish side were hampered, and remain hampered in everything that they do by a false humanitarianism and an inability to understand the laws of war. In war there is no such thing as civilians. All civilians in a war are part of the war combatants. The women pushing prams, and pushing the old anti Jew canard of the Blood Libel, were as much part of the war effort as was Hamas. It was precisely these Gaza civilians who gave Hamas the water to swim in. This is so obvious it hardly needs stating.


The Jewish side is also hampered by bourgeois type leaders who want to appear respectable on the world stage of diplomacy. There is nothing respectable in war. If the Fascists drive us to make war then the only imperative is to win it. The Israeli leaders in this war never escaped this faux “humanitarianism”. That means the war was not ended and more lives will in the future be lost.


Also it emerged in the War that Israel is being totally isolated and this is the same kind of isolation that happened before the last Holocaust in the 1930s.


Thus it now crystallizes clearly that the main issue is that the Jews are being thus isolated, lied about, insulted and in reality being set up for a new Holocaust.


I know about Spain and I know about Ireland.


Let us take Spain where I am at present living. Let me talk a little about this stupid people who do not seem to have grasped the most salient points in their own history.


To me feeling the atmosphere of Jew Hatred in this country today it seems as if it was only yesterday that the Jews were driven out of Spain and forced to convert to Christianity. These essentially stupid, hard nosed and hard hearted people seem to have learned nothing and forgotten nothing.


I am drawn to this regrettable but firm conclusion. This country is a centre of anti-Semitism. The UGT and CCOO trade unions had strangely a separate large demo against the crisis. The very same anti-Semitic forces march on the crisis! But it will take much to defeat anti-Semitism in this country, a nation of imbeciles who are totally ignorant of their history.


How can they atone for their history when they are stupid and ignorant. Spain remains a tool of the Vatican, a tool of the reactionary Labourites like Zapatero, and a tool of the Stalinists now morphed into the IU.


Oh and my goodness I forgot their bullfighting and their toreador bullshit and a simple truth that I have learned, farmers keeping their beautiful dogs tethered on 6 foot leads from birth to death, the whole country is the worst of the worst zoos imaginable. You could not actually invent this stuff it is so cruel. With heir anti-Semitism and cruelty to their animals they can take their faux merriment and stick it where the sun never shines.


Perhaps Jews can get their revenge on the Spanish anti-Semites. Let us keep announcing in their bars that 1 in every 5 of them are Jews! Good revenge medicine that!


As for Ireland I do not have to spend too long on it. The Irish catholic nationalists are anti-Semitic to the core but to make it worse they are ungrateful and ungracious anti-Semites. Long forgotten by these essentially bog men and women who persecuted not just Jews but every decent artistic talent that the nation produced are the Briscoe family. It was Ben Briscoe who fought alongside Michael Collins for Irish national liberation against the cruelty of the British. Now forgotten, trampled over by these anti-Semitic cretins.


So let us look to the future.


What was absent in this war in Gaza was a Trotskyist Party which can fight inside the country of Israel and inside every country in the rest of the world that the Jews must have a Homeland and that this Homeland must be a respite from anti-Semitism.


I feel that the wolves are gathering at the door of the Jews once more. The fight of Leon Trotsky to protect the Jews in the 1930s has been lied about. Anybody who lies about this today will be our enemy. In it lies the salvation of the Jews and in nowhere else.


The essential issue is that Israel is fighting against an antisemitic monster. I feel myself that Israel cannot win this on its own, it may delay its destruction by Arab and Islamist antisemitism, but Israel is crying out for us in the rest of the world to come to its assistance.

The central challenge in the bravery of the Israeli soldiers who fight Fascist Hamas is for us to come to the aid of Israel.

A number of things have stood out in this war


  1. Israel is fighting for its life. No nation can continue to exist if it cannot stop its land being attacked day after day. For eight years rockets have been coming from Gaza into Israel.
  2. At the same time Hamas is the agent of Iran which threatens to obliterate Israel.
  3. It was immediately clear that the soldiers and commanders of Israel had a new confidence. They made it clear that they were attacking only Hamas. The first attack on the Hamas Barracks killed nearly 200 of the enemy. They could not hide this in the resultant Arab press because they were all “uniformed” up.
  4. The attack on Hamas has been hard and cruel as it should be in any war. The IDF has hit Hamas so hard and so often that they could not mount any fake Press fakes like happened in Qana, exposed thoroughly by English website EU Referendum
  5. Israel propagandists keep on asking the outside world, how to stop the rocket attacks on our country and what you would do in a similar situation if it was your country. None have been able to answer except the anti-Semitic answer, you are Jews and you asked for it. So the victim becomes victimized.
  6. Meanwhile as the pictures flow on what a blogger called the “continuous anti-Semitic screech” from the BBC, Israel is foolishly concerned about civilians, but asks the question “What would you do. How to stop the rockets on our people” We are back where we were before, there is no answer to this except an anti-Semitic answer.
  7. Almost total unity in Israel. Once again the Israel self haters of Peace Now silenced. This is a new Israel. This is an Israel with the Iran nuclear threat hanging over it. All Jews will act to prevent their own incineration
  8. The Israeli warriors of the IDF have exposed the lousy fighters of Hamas who are really cowardly terrorists fed up on US and EU tax payers money via the corrupt UN. Given any half decent lead at the top the fighting qualities of the Jewish nation emerge. This is a people who in a miraculous way have built up the wonderful Israel of today. The opposite has emerged as well. It has shown the cowards of the Arab Palestinians for what they are. This is not explosive vest and 72 virgin scenario. Here they have had to stand and fight. But these Arabs are spongers who have been living off the largesse of UN dole for generations, that is the taxpayers, that is the workers’ wages of America and Europe. That means you and I chum we have built up this anti-Semitic monster. Handed to them on the proverbial plate by the anti-Semitic leaders in these Governments at the top of these states. The whole anti-Semitic shebang is exploded into bits by one good thrust from the Israeli warriors, the young men and women of the IDF who are fighting for their national state
  9. The certain future…Hamas will be resurrected by the US and EU Governments and of course by the Arab and Islamic anti-Semitism.  Let us be clear why. Anti-Semitism in the West is not dead. Just watch those governments in US and EU hustle to resurrect Hamas. Watch the Press lie. At best Israel fighters have won a breathing space.
  10. We can now also trust the Israeli leaders of Livni, Barak and Olmert to do precisely the wrong thing. This is a replay almost of 1967 and shows that as long as Arabs are in these areas they will attack Jews. Against all the interests of the Jews these leaders will withdraw.
  11. The correct policy to fight for…Israel can not withdraw from Gaza and will have to occupy not only Gaza but also the West Bank until this issue of anti-Semitic Arabs trying to kill Jews endures. This is because Fatah and Hamas only represent the anti-Semitic Arabs, and do not replace the anti-Semitic Arabs.
  12. The Media has hidden just how totally the IDF has defeated Hamas in every department of war. This is not a matter of equipment. Hamas are terrorists, they live off the UN dole, do not have to work for a living, beget children and the UN picks up the tab etc. The Jews won because they fight for their nation. So therefore the Media will resurrect Hamas. The Media is totally anti-Semitic and needs Hamas.
  13. Fatah remains an even more deadly anti-Semitic force and threat than Hamas bluster ever was. And Fatah is created by Britain, built up by the US, and now trained and equipped by the US and by EU money and technology
  14. Israel remains at war directly with the 350 millions in the Arab world and with the 1300 millions in the Islamic world. Israeli Jews are about 5 million strong. The war demos have showed a large Palestinian Arab anti-Semitic gang in every city in Europe and in most cities of America. They are joined by so called “Left” traitors to socialism who all carry anti-Semitic placards and say that Israelis are Nazis. That is Jews are Nazis. This is an unequal and unfair battle and Israel is crying out for help to defeat these Fascist anti-Semites.
  15. You live in these countries. What will you do?


by Felix Quigley

January 17, 2009

This short analysis by DEBKAfile explains best the ridiculous ceasefire plan that Rice and Olmert seem to have hatched. The Israeli people willnot wear it. Once again it does not answer the question


How to stop the Hamas rockets on Israel!

[begin DEBKAfile report here]

Gaza ceasefire: Israeli pledges to withdraw troops from Gaza, Hamas to keep shooting rockets


January 16, 2009, 10:34 PM (GMT+02:00)

DEBKAfile‘s sources reveal the outline of an evolving ceasefire accord, dismissed as farcical by a furious Israeli military command: Israel has promised the US and Egypt to start pulling its troops out of the Gaza Strip within days and, at some point, open the six border crossings. Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert, defense minister Ehud Barak and foreign minister Tzipi Livni, the group running the Gaza war, have approved this arrangement and will put it before the security cabinet Saturday night, Jan. 17.

Israel is therefore submitting to Hamas’ two main demands, while ending its three-week military operation without achieving its two primary goals: Hamas vows to keep on firing missiles until the last Israel soldier quits the Gaza Strip and neither of the memoranda Israel signed with the US and Egypt Friday, Jan. 16, guarantees to halt the flow of smuggled weapons into Gaza.

Next week, Hamas plans to grandstand its armed forces’ restored control over the Gaza Strip.

Leon Trotsky had become a Zionist

Leon Trotsky was the greatest socialist revolutionary who ever lived. Why should it not be of the most gigantic historical importance that he became a Zionist, that is a Zionist from the standpoint of a revolutionary socialist, in the 1930s

This is taken from Myers synopsis of the work by Nedava


[Start quote here]

{p. 204} On his arrival in Mexico in January 1937, Trotsky granted several interviews to the press, in which he expressed his views on Jewish problems. He admitted that with Hitler’s rise to power in Germany, things had altered considerably for European Jewry. Agonizingly he had to reappraise his former assumptions:

During my youth I rather leaned toward the prognosis that the Jews of different countries would be assimilated and that the Jewish question would thus disappear, as it were, automatically. The historical development of the last quarter of a century has not confirmed this view. Decaying capitalism has everywhere swung over to an intensified nationalism, one aspect of which is anti-Semitism. The Jewish question has loomed largest in the most highly developed capitalist country of Europe, Germany.

Trotsky still did not concede that the Jewish question could be solved within the framework of the capitalist system; but assimilation, as a kind of self-regulating process which might have taken care of the problem over an extended period of time, could no longer be relied upon; its pace was not speedy enough to cope with the appearance of such radically destructive movements as nazism. Palliatives, therefore, had to be sought, and Trotsky was driven to admit the existence of one of them – territorialism. “The Jews of different countries,” he said, “have created their press and developed the Yiddish language as an instrument adapted to modern culture. One must therefore reckon with the fact that the Jewish nation will maintain itself for an entire epoch to come.” The admission of the existence of a “Jewish nation” was a weird recantation on the part of Trotsky, unless it was a mere semantic slip of the tongue.

Admitting in 1937 the need for a palliative solution to the Jewish problem but realizing, of course, that Zionism was basically a territorial movement. Trotsky took issue with it, not on the grounds of substance, but rather practical viability. He said so explicitly:

We must bear in mind that the Jewish people will exist a long time. The nation cannot normally exist without common territory. Zionism springs from this very idea. But the facts of every passing day demon-

{p. 205} strate to us that Zionism is incapable of resolving the Jewish question. The conflict between the Jews and Arabs in Palestine acquires a more and more tragic and more and more menacing character. I do not at all believe that the Jewish question can be resolved within the framework of rotting capitalism and under the control of British imperialism.

In his interview with the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Trotsky recalled that he had been inclined toward the idea of assimilation of Jews, but had changed his attitude because of “historical developments.”

He then brought up a new concept, which had never before preoccupied the minds of Marxist doctrinaires: emigration. Orthodox socialism, which claims to be anchored in the underlying fraternity of the human race, does not envisage the need for transplanting peoples in order to solve social problems. Trotsky, however, admits to the peculiarity of the Jewish problem in this respect too:

Socialism will open the possibility of great migrations on the basis of the most developed technique and culture. It goes without saying that what is here involved is not compulsory displacements, that is, the creation of new ghettos for certain nationalities, but displacements freely consented to, or rather demanded, by certain nationalities or parts of nationalities. The dispersed Jews who would want to be reassembled in the same community will find a sufficiently extensive and rich spot under the sun. The same possibility will be opened for the Arabs, as for all other scattered nations. National topography will become a part of the planned economy. This is the great historic perspective as I see it. To work for international Socialism means to work also for the solution of the Jewish question.* {Why does Trotsky mention the Arabs, if not implying that Palestine would be given to the Jews? H. G. Wells also envisaged mass migration in his world state.}

Here Trotsky may have prophetically adumbrated the national renascence which sprouted among wide sections of Soviet Jewry, which, following the Six-Day War of 1967, has assumed the form of a persistent struggle for the right of immigration to Israel.¥

* Jewish Teleglaphic Agency, 18 January 1937.

¥ It is noteworthy that P. B. Akselrod anticipated Trotsky by many years in defending the idea of Jewish immigration to Palestine. See Deich, Yiden in der Rusisher Revolutsie, 1:9.

{p. 206} In June 1937 Mrs. Beba Idelson, a Russian-born Jewish socialist Zionist leader in Palestine, visited Trotsky in Mexico. First she participated in a press conference at Diego Rivera’s residence and then had a long conversation with Trotsky in his study. The following are some of her recollections of that conversation:

I told him who I was, and that at the time I had been expelled from Russia as a Zionist-Socialist. If he was interested, I would tell him about our life in Palestine. Trotsky got up from his chair, asked me to wait awhile, and soon returned with his wife. He introduced me to her and asked me to tell him everything. He wanted to know about Palestine and was happy to hear a report from a person living there.

I talked to him not as one talks to a stranger. A feeling accompanied me all the time that he was a Jew, a wandering Jew, without a fatherland. This brought me closer to him, aroused in me confidence that my story was addressed to a man who was able to understand. I interrupted my story several times, asking him whether he was sure he had the time to listen to me, and he urged me to continue, jotted down some points, and then began to question me: How many Jews are there in Palestine? Where do they reside; is it only in towns? He asked numerous questions about the kibbutzim and the Histadrut. Are we able to work in harmony with the employers within the framework of the Zionist Organization; how do we bring Jews to Palestine and how do they join our party; how is our young generation being brought up and what is its language? He asked me to say a few sentences in Hebrew and smiled at the sound of the language. He wrote several words and noted down mainly the names of the Zionist leaders, the parties, the Histadrut, and various places in Palestine. He showed interest as if he were a man hearing about an unknown land, but I was under the impression that the subject absorbed his thought and heart.

The conversation lasted nearly three hours. After telling how we were fighting for Jewish immigration into our country, and he was deeply immersed in thought, I asked him: “Here is a country that is ready to admit you; perhaps you, too, will go to Palestine?” I felt that a shiver ran through his spine. He replied with a calm question: “Wouldn’t you be afraid to accept me?” I answered: “No, we won’t be afraid, for our idea is stronger than any fear of any man, even of a man like you.” Trotsky came over to me, pressed my hand, and said: “Thank you. It is a long time since I have felt so good. But you should know that I have friends throughout the world. We have not renounced our views…


This is an important extract from the above

Trotsky still did not concede that the Jewish question could be solved within the framework of the capitalist system; but assimilation, as a kind of self-regulating process which might have taken care of the problem over an extended period of time, could no longer be relied upon; its pace was not speedy enough to cope with the appearance of such radically destructive movements as nazism. Palliatives, therefore, had to be sought, and Trotsky was driven to admit the existence of one of them – territorialism.

What follows this slightly contradicts this. It is not so much as looking for palliatives, or just reacting to the Nazi threat, but it was even more fundamental. Trotsky was reaching a new understanding of the role of nationalism as a progressive element, and of nation states.

He was saying that the Jews had to get out of Europe at all costs. Had to make their way to Palestine and set up a state of their own where they could be free to carry on their ancient religion and customs without molestation.

But they were a nation.

That is precisely what he could not see when he reported back at the Sixth Zionist Congress 30 years or so before.

What is happening here is that Trotsky was reworking all of the previous Marxist political positions and he had reached this firm truth about the Jewish people.

Zionism had been joined by the greatest revolutionary socialist man who ever lived.

And if capitalism continued to exist not only the Jes, but all of us, all of humanity would be wipled out.

That is the concept which has been hidden by both sides in this argument, but it has especially been hidden by renegades from Trotskyism who are backing this antisemitic concept and entity of “Palestinianism”.


by Felix Quigley

January 15, 2009

One of the amazing things is how little of the real fight in Gaza is being reported by the Media in Europe. All these rotten and corrupt journalist want is staged photos an dreports from biassed and Jew Hating Arabs.

The following report gives a far different picture. Young Jewish lads of the IDF are obviously using great skill, tenacity and enormous courage in this fight, ON THE GROUND

[Begin report of courageous Israelis  fighting here]

A senior military officer who is commanding forces fighting inside Gaza said on Sunday that Hamas terrorists were trying to cross the line the IDF had created separating northern Gaza from the south. Some attempts to cross the line, he said, were made by Hamas gunmen hiding inside Red Crescent ambulances.

The IDF said that Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure to carry out its attacks had increased in recent days. On Sunday, the IDF spokesperson released video footage showing how Hamas had booby-trapped a school and zoo in Gaza City’s Zeitun neighborhood.

The booby-trap was first reported in the Post last week when it was discovered by troops from the Givati Brigade who had slept inside a school and awoke in the morning to discover that the school, located adjacent to the zoo, was wired with explosives that were miraculously not triggered.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak visited the Golani Brigade’s command center outside of the Gaza Strip, and said that Israel would continue its operations as it continued to review several cease-fire proposals.

Meanwhile Sunday, in the fiercest ground battles since the start of the operation, IDF troops fought against Palestinian gunmen in the Gaza City suburb of Sheikh Ajleen.

Fighting in Sheikh Ajleen erupted before dawn and continued into the day as IDF infantrymen and tanks advanced toward the neighborhood of Gaza City and its approximately 400,000 residents, Palestinian witnesses said.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad said they ambushed the soldiers, leading to some of the heaviest fighting since Israel sent ground forces into the territory on January 3.

Gunfire subsided in the early afternoon, with the IDF in control of buildings on the neighborhood’s outskirts.

At least 40 Palestinians had been killed across Gaza by Sunday afternoon, according to Gaza health officials. Many were noncombatants, they claimed, including four members of one family killed when a tank shell hit their home near Gaza City.

On Sunday, the IAF dropped additional leaflets urging Gaza residents to report the whereabouts of Hamas operatives, even providing a phone number to call.

(The skill is amazing! This is really a classic and an amazing battle which Israel is waging here]

“You can call the numbers listed below to inform us about the locations of rocket launchers, warehouses, tunnels and terrorist groups operating in your area,” the leaflet said in Arabic, promising “confidentiality guaranteed.”

On Saturday, flyers were dropped on Gaza City warning residents of a wider offensive.

“The IDF is not working against the people of Gaza but against Hamas and the terrorists only,” the flyer said. “Stay safe by following our orders.”

Also on Sunday, the IAF hit at least seven rocket cells, as well as the launcher used to fire the Grad-type rockets at Beersheba on Sunday morning. In searches in the northern Strip on Sunday the IDF found several weapons caches, one of them containing communications equipment.


by Felix Quigley

January 15, 2009

This is a short interlude on 4international and refers the reader to an excellent study on Palestinian Media Watch. How can the Professional Journalists of the Media (I mean they are getting paid for writing and spewing out their filth against Israel) dare to do so, you may ask yourself after reading the PMW reports of the actuality, and that actuality about the “beloved Palestinians” is grim indeed. A good blogger called New Oxfordian called the BBC commentary “an antisemitic screech”. How apt! What a good description!

But it confirms totally what we on 4international continually say…”Palestinianism” is the new Fascism. It is out of this that Fascism will arise.

The url is


This is just the beginning

Hamas using children in combat support roles

by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook, Jan. 13, 2009

A child in Gaza describes how he and other children are being used in combat support roles for Hamas fighters. According to the Palestinian child, children are being used as scouts to follow Israeli movements, and as couriers to supply ammunition and deliver information to the Hamas fighters.

The following is the description of the children’s combat support roles, quoted in an Israeli Arab weekly:

“[The newspaper] Kul Al-Arab called many Gaza Strip residents, to comprehend the situation of the people who are suffering for two weeks from the wild Israeli aggression…

Khaled, from A-Rimal [in Gaza], said: ‘We the children, in small groups and in civilian clothes, are fulfilling missions of support for the [Hamas] Resistance fighters, by transmitting messages about the movements of the enemy forces, or by bringing them ammunition and food. We ourselves are not aware of the movements of the Resistance fighters. We see them in one place, they suddenly disappear, and then reappear somewhere else. They are like ghosts, it is very hard to find them or hurt them.'”
[Kul-Al-Arab (Israeli Arab weekly), January 9, 2009]

Saudi scholar on Hamas TV:

Jews are the enemies of Allah

and should be killed



by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook, Jan. 12, 2009

“Jews are the enemies of Allah,” and therefore by definition are the enemies of all Muslims. This opinion is expressed by Dr. Walid Al-Rashudi, head of the Department of Islamic Studies at Saud University in Saudi Arabia, in a speech broadcast last week on Hamas TV. The religious scholar also prays for the extermination of all Jews: “Kill them one by one and don’t leave even one.” Hamas leaders have expressed on numerous occasions the belief that all Jews should be exterminated. (Click to see PMW bulletin.)

The religious scholar likewise expresses rage at the Muslim countries who are allied with the West, calling them “traitors…
who believe in America,” instead of in Allah.


by Felix Quigley

January 15, 2009

Gaza War Protest
and Anti-Israel Rally 

San Francisco, January 10, 2009

On Saturday, January 10, 2009, a large rally and march took place in San Francisco to protest Israel’s invasion of Gaza. The event was one of a series of similar events held in various cities around the country on the same day, and was organized by ANSWER along with several other far-left, Arab and Muslim groups.

The photos in this report represent what I personally saw that day in San Francisco. Because there were thousands of people in attendance, with innumerable signs, vignettes and scenes playing out every minute in many different locations, I can vouch only for what I myself witnessed.

While the event was advertised as being specifically a protest against the invasion of Gaza, there seemed to me to be an undercurrent of unabashed anti-Semitism. This woman, for example, carried a sign that said “Jews Are Terroist!” (“terrorists,” one assumes she meant), and dressed her very cute daughters in matching Palestinian flag outfits. 

This is an outstanding series of photographs and I beg, implore, that every single reader will visit this

The url is


It is on the solomonia site


One result of viewing these pictures is the firm conclusion that the new Fascism is Antisemitic Hatred of Israel.

Martin Luther King said to the effect “Those who say they are against Zionism…we are talking Antisemitism”. The so-called “Left” are up to their eyeballs in this Fascism and Jew Hatred.



by Felix Quigley

January 15, 2009


In response to a reader who has emailed us

We have seen in many places of the world trade union leaders marching with left movements alongside and in support of Hamas, a Fascist and Antisemitic movement.

Can we make our position clear on these. The trade union leaders sold out the British General Strike of 1926. They have always been a danger to the working class and have caused workers much suffering, as did that defeat. I refer especially to the Irish Congress of Trade Unions.

Those on the “left” like Indymedia use the word socialist to describe themselves. They are in fact Fascist and are working in support of Fascist Hamas and Fatah. They are therefore also antisemitic.

I have been listening to much hatred of Israel on the BBC, where they seem to interview non stop Arab Palestinians and supporters of Hamas. They speak in the sleek journalistic manner.

But they are telling lies about the situation just as they lied about the Serbs anc created the monstrous lie of the Srebrenica massacre.

I could care less about the Boston Globe. But this writer expresses so much of what I hear from these journalistic types. No idea what is eating them up. But I do know they are liars.

[Start quote from a writer on the Boston Globe here]

Stubbornness in Gaza

By H.D.S. Greenway
January 13, 2009
SOME WOULD have us believe that Hamas is nothing but an Iranian surrogate, and that the wholesale damage being inflicted on Gaza is just unfortunate but necessary collateral damage in the war on terror. It is not that complicated. Gaza is just part of Palestine that has been trying for 40 years to get Israel off its back. Sure, Gazans will take help where they can get it, and Iran will make mischief where it can, but the centrality of the Palestinian issue never goes away.

(This man is living in a dream world. let us say there was a “Palestine” on Judea and Samaria, also known as the West Bank, with a land corridor such as an elevated Highway running from Gaza to it, let us throw in half of Jerusalem as Barak offered to Arafat.

Then what? Does this man think that there would be peace with Israel.

This man, a very educated man you might say, simply has everything wrong.

Jew Hatred in the world, and especially in this part of the world goes back a very long time indeed, long long before Israel was created. It is Jew Hatred which motivates the Arabs through Islam.

The first concrete thing that would happen is that perhaps 2 million Arabs would flood their area from abroad and they may welcome them. The pressure on living space would be intolerable.

Consider also something else that I wish more research has been done on. That is the strong drive from within Islam to subjugate each and every minority, as in Darfur, as in the Tuareg people, as in the minorities who lived in the Moroccan mountains etc.

What makes this man think that THESE Arabs would settle at peace with Israel in this tiny area.

Especially when a very large majority of them have alreasdy pointed out time and again that their aim is to destroy Israle.

This is where men like this move into real Jew Hatred themselves. That is they disregard what these antisemites say they are going to do. That is just like disregarding what Hitler said he would do to the Jews in Mein Kamph.

I could see some excuse then. But now, after the Holocaust of the Jews by Hitler in 1939 to 45!!! Does this man not see what he is asking of the Jews in 2009.

Let him continue to see how this educated man creates this equivalence between the Jews and Antisemites:)

[Continue quote here]

One would have hoped that Gaza would have taken advantage of Israel’s pull-out in 2005 to create a peaceful, productive society, just as one could have hoped that Israel would let Gaza develop without trying to strangle it with border controls on land, sea, and air that reduced the territory to destitution. Yes, there are weapons being smuggled through those tunnels to Egypt, but through the tunnels also pass fuel and basic supplies to keep life in Gaza going.

(Equivalence between Jew hating antisemites of Hamas and the Jews of Israel)

Gaza’s crime, for which Israel and the Bush administration decided it should be punished, was voting in Hamas to the legislative council in 2006 in a free election. Thus began the attempt to coerce the population into rejecting Hamas. There was talk in the United States and Israel about arming Fatah to stage a coup in Gaza against Hamas, but Hamas struck first.

Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention expressly forbids collective punishment and calls it a war crime. There can be little doubt that Israel has been employing, as the Red Cross put it in its commentary to the Geneva Conventions, “intimidatory measures to terrorize the population” in hopes of preventing hostile acts. One could say the same about Hamas firing rockets into civilian Israeli towns.

(He is totally equivocal between the Jews and Hamas)

The government of Israel has a blind faith in the efficacy of military force. Israel shares complicity with Hamas in breaking the Egyptian-brokered cease-fire by attacking Gaza on Nov. 5. As with other Israeli-Palestinian agreements, such as the Oslo Accords, the Palestinians never really gave up violence, and the Israelis never fulfilled their part of the bargain by lifting restrictions on the population.

(This man is just a liar. He now is not even bothering to give the Israeli side. That Hamas was preparing to use a tunnel to kidnap other Shalits and that is why Israel attacked those terrorists of Hamas)

While most of the world calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, the Bush administration does not. The same was true in 2006 when Israel set about to reduce the infrastructure of Lebanon, even bombing lighthouses, in the hopes that the Lebanese would turn against Hezbollah. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called that destruction “the birth pangs of a new Middle East.” It was, sadly, just the same old Middle East of tit-for-tat violence, which, in that case, only increased the stature of Hezbollah.

Reports from Israel indicate that the leadership is split as to Israel’s goals in Gaza. Should it try to eliminate Hamas completely, or should it try for the less ambitious goal of trying to stop the rocket attacks?

(On a Spanish radio station which I personally heard a presenter was asked how can the Hamas rockets be stopped. The questioner begged give me an answer? The presenter did not, could not answer)

There seems to be little doubt in the United States, however. Vice President Cheney said that Israeli officials had made it very clear they would be “trying to take down Hamas.” Democratic Senator Harry Reid told “Meet the Press” that “Hamas has got to be put away.”

That may be easier said than done, for Hamas represents an idea of a religiously inspired resistance, an image that Israeli violence promotes at the expense of Palestinian moderates.

(You can see what he is doing here. He is blaming the victim of antisemitism, the Jew, for that very antisemitism. He is claiming indeed that the Jew is creating this antisemitism. This is a very old canard indeed)

The irony is that most Arab states hate and fear Islamists such as Hamas, but Israel has now made heroes of Hamas as it did in Lebanon with Hezbollah. There were many Gazans who would have liked to see the end of Hamas, but now their voices won’t be heard. And although Israel talks about the hapless Mamoud Abbas as a potential negotiating partner, Israel continues to undermine his authority in Palestinian eyes.

I heard Israel’s president, Shimon Peres, on the radio asking, “Why do they do this?” If Hamas cared about its people, it wouldn’t attack us, he said.

No doubt Hamas is stubborn, even unreasonable, but Peres well remembers that in the long history of his own people there have been times, from Masada to Warsaw, when stubborn men deemed it better to resist against hopeless odds rather than accept subjugation.

H.D.S. Greenway’s column appears regularly in the Globe.

And there I will leave this man Greenway. He is educated but he is a slight man indeed. Not much of a man at all. I have spoken to many simple workers on this Gaza issue and they are far more substantial than this man.

Now he is also a very sneaky man because at the end, dear reader, I hope that you have noticed that Greenway has consciously drawn a parallel between Hamas and the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto. Now why would he do that unless he is part of that old canard, that the Jews of Israel are just a replica of the Nazis.

It is a firm rule of thumb which we have here on 4international. It IS antisemitism to draw this comparision between Israel and the Nazi regime, for obvious reasons, that I think every single working man of whatever nationality would immediately understand.


by Felix Quigley

january 14, 2009

Israel is now also at war with Lebanon whether it likes it or not, whether its leaders want to accept the reality or not.

The position is this.

The FIRST rocket which Hamas and its Jew Hating friends in Gaza fired at Israel WAS a declaration of war. And so it has proved.

The Israeli Government tried then to pretend it did not happen and it did not matter much. But with the FIRST rocket Hamas had declared war on Israel.

Similarly with their rantings that they would destroy the Zionist enemy etc.

Similarly with Ahmadinejad’s threat to wipe Israel off the face of the map. From the first words uttered by this bigot Israel was at war with Iran.

Now the same thing is happening with Lebanon. The Lebanese Government is host to Hizbullah and Israel is at war whether it likes it or not there too.

This new development is well described by the wonderful DEBKAfile

[Begin quote from DEBKAfile here]

Israel’s northern forces on high

alert after rocket attack on Kiryat


DEBKAfile Special Report

January 14, 2009, 6:31 PM (GMT+02:00)

Hizballah’s Al Manar TV reports that Israel fired back after three rockets exploded in the Kiryat Shemone region of northern Israel. Additional Lebanese sources described Israeli helicopters hovering over southern Lebanon and an artillery response against the rocket sites.

Five Katyusha rockets were apparently fired early Wednesday, Jan. 14, from two places in S. Lebanon – 3 from Arqoub and two from Habariyeh near Hasbaya. The latter fell short and exploded inside the Lebanese border. Three more rockets primed for launching were later discovered by the Lebanese army and UNIFIL troops at Habariyeh rocket site. The Lebanese government condemned the rocket attack and the UNIFIL chief asked both sides to exercise restraint.

At 8:30 a.m., the northern Israeli town of Kiryat Shemona heard four explosions and saw plumes of smoke rise over the Galilee Panhandle. They headed for bomb shelters and cancelled classes at school. Two women went into shock.

Last Thursday, Jan. 8, Nahariya on the Mediterranean coast came under rocket attack from Lebanon and a nursing home was destroyed. Israel responded with cross-border artillery fire to what was officially described as a one-off attack. Hizballah spokesmen warned then that further Israeli “provocations” would be met with reprisals. Israeli forces in the North are on high alert after responding to the latest attack.

DEBKAfiles military sources report that the second rocket attack from Lebanon in less than a week indicates that Hizballah is supplying its terrorist allies with rockets for a systematic assault on northern Israel to expand the Hamas-Israel confrontation in the Gaza Strip to the northern front.


I wonder who is this “Unifil Chief” who is urging moderation on “BOTH SIDES”.

Yes, Debka is correct, Hizbullah must aid Hamas and Iran. These wars take on a momentum of their own.

Also Fatah and Abbas are finished. What is left out by most commentators is this.

Hamas represents the horrific Jew Hatred which is in the Arab masses. It seems that the Arabs are very different to the Iranians, especially the Palestinian Arabs. There is always a real bitter Jew hatred involved here.

The United Nations by their encouragement of this antisemitic phenomenon, by protecting these antisemites from 1948, by encouraging their antisemitism have produced a real monster.

Israel is now facing huge dangers and it must summon everything to fight back.

But Israel must not be isolated in the world. Most of us who support Israel cannot be there to fight and anyway it is highly skilled requiring training.

But there must be built in the West and in every country strong organization which can fight against the rising antisemitism which was displayed on the demos all around the world last weekend.

I feel that if given a chance the British workers who hate Islam will be with Israel and the Jews if given half a chance. At the present the British workers are held back by a monstrous labour and trade union bureaucracy.

I am certain as well that Irish workers will rally tot he Jews. Irish workers need a leadership that will tellthem about the wonderful Briscoe family who gave so much to Irish Independence. Against the antisemites the Briscoes can call from the grave and rally the Irish behind the Jewish people.

But it is the great American people and oppressed workers who will be most important for Israel. In this regard sites like Israpundit, Atlas Shrugs should try new direction, not just blogging, but holding meetings in public and drive into the American working class to win strong support. I am sure it would work wonders and it would transform the politics of people like Ted Belman and Bill Narvey.

Words can only get you so far in life.


by Felix Quigley

January 14, 2009

How the British Fought Terror

January 8, 2009 | Eli E. Hertz

This is dedicated to Mr. Tony Blair, the Quartet’s envoy to the Middle East, and to Mr. Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister for the United Kingdom.

Hypocrisy at its best

By Rafael Medoff, April 22, 2002, The Jerusalem Post“Demolishing the homes of Arab civilians … Shooting handcuffed prisoners… Forcing local Arabs to test areas where mines may have been planted…”

These sound like the sort of accusations made by British and other European officials concerning Israel’s recent actions in Jenin. In fact, they are descriptions from official British documents concerning the methods used by the British authorities to combat Palestinian Arab terrorism in Jenin and elsewhere in 1938.

The documents were declassified by London in 1989. They provide details of the British Mandatory government’s response to the assassination of a British district commissioner by a Palestinian Arab terrorist in Jenin in the summer of 1938.

Even after the suspected assassin was captured (and then shot dead while allegedly trying to escape), the British authorities decided that “a large portion of the town should be blown up” as punishment. On August 25 of that year, a British convoy brought 4,200 kilos of explosives to Jenin for that purpose.

In the Jenin operation and on other occasions, local Arabs were forced to drive “mine-sweeping taxis” ahead of British vehicles in areas where Palestinian Arab terrorists were believed to have planted mines, in order “to reduce [British] landmine casualties.”

The British authorities frequently used these and similar methods to combat Palestinian Arab terrorism in the late 1930s.

BRITISH forces responded to the presence of terrorists in the Arab village of Miar, north of Haifa, by blowing up house after house in October 1938.

“When the troops left, there was little else remaining of the once-busy village except a pile of mangled masonry,” The New York Times reported.

The declassified documents refer to an incident in Jaffa in which a handcuffed prisoner was shot by the British police.

Under Emergency Regulation 19b, the British Mandate government could demolish any house located in a village where terrorists resided, even if that particular house had no direct connection to terrorist activity. Mandate official Hugh Foot later recalled: “When we thought that a village was harboring rebels, we’d go there and mark one of the large houses. Then, if an incident was traced to that village, we’d blow up the house we’d marked.”

The High Commissioner for Palestine, Harold MacMichael, defended the practice: “The provision is drastic, but the situation has demanded drastic powers.”

MacMichael was furious over what he called the “grossly exaggerated accusations” that England’s critics were circulating concerning British anti-terror tactics in Palestine. Arab allegations that British soldiers gouged out the eyes of Arab prisoners were quoted prominently in the Nazi German press and elsewhere.

The declassified documents also record discussions among officials of the Colonial Office concerning the rightness or wrongness of the anti-terror methods used in Palestine. Lord Dufferin remarked: “British lives are being lost and I don’t think that we, from the security of Whitehall, can protest squeamishly about measures taken by the men in the frontline.”

Sir John Shuckburgh defended the tactics on the grounds that the British were confronted “not with a chivalrous opponent playing the game according to the rules, but with gangsters and murderers.”

There were many differences between British policy in the 1930s and Israeli policy today, but one stands out – the British, faced with a level of Palestinian Arab terrorism considerably less lethal than that which Israel faces today, utilized anti-terror methods considerably harsher than those used by Israeli forces.


(Very indebted to Eli E Herz for this information. The British were then responsible for the deaths of millions in the Nazi Holocaust because they closed the borders of Palestine to the doomed Jews at the insistence of the Arabs of the time

See www.mythsandfacts.org for a great resource)


by Felix Quigley

January 14, 2009

I refer our readers to 2 very important posts, part 1 and part 2 on INN

“Iranians are pro Israel”


This is an extract fromPart 1

[Start extract here]

INN: You once sent me a video purportedly filmed in Tehran of a graffiti artist creating a mural celebrating Israel’s Independence Day. Do we have any hard numbers on grass-roots opposition to the Islamic regime?

Imani: First, let me thank you for the invitation. Temperamentally and historically most Iranians are pro-Israel. It’s in their genes. By that, I mean, we are the followers of Cyrus the Great and his charter. The great king practiced what he believed. He, for example, helped rebuild the Temple of Solomon which had been destroyed by the Babylonian kings and freed some 40,000 or more Jews who had been imprisoned and kept as slaves by the Babylonians, empowering the Jewish people to return to their homeland. Something that was followed by Cyrus’s heirs up to this date.

There are only a handful of Iranians, who are directly or indirectly paid by the present regime, who show enmity for Israel, but I think deep down, even they pretend and do not mean it. We have had nothing against the State of Israel or the Jews and we do not have even to this very date. We have always been protective of the Jews in Iran. That is a fact that has been proved many times over.

Sadly, the Jewish people have been used as scapegoats for many centuries by a variety of non-Jews. Regrettably, Muslims and Islamists, for their parts, have adopted scapegoating as an article of faith. The Muslims blame the Jews for all kinds of heinous things, dating back to the time of Muhammad himself.

Realistically, 80 to 90 percent of the entire population of Iran truly despise the current regime…

part 1


part 2



by Felix Quigley

January 14, 2009

We have just seen how Adam le Bor on Harry’s Place has been trying to set Israel and Jews up for persecution by the Hague Kangaroo Court, passing on lies which are put about by Jihadist antisemite Hamas supporters. That is Arab “Palestinians” successors of Hajj Amin el Hussein, who Le Bor claims to know little about!!! He made this claim on the Maurice Boland radio show few months back.

He has written books about the Balkans and does not know about el Husseini in the Balkans! What a fraud!

But Le Bor had a friend in Yugoslavia and this friend spread lie after lie against the Serbs. His name is Oliver Kamm and Kamm has been promoted by British Imperialism to a lead writer in the Times of London.

Gone is his old boring website. Now there is a big Times logo over his scribbles. Still boring as hell though!

If Le Bor is surfacing as an enemy of the Jews of Israel as he was for the Serbs, what about his great mate Kamm.

Well consider this, which Kamm writes as a lead article in the Times.

[Start extract from Times lead article by Kamm here]

The pictures do not lie. Laser-guided but blind to the distinction between fighter and civilian, Israeli bombs have reduced schools, apartment blocks and police parade grounds to visions of hell. Aid workers and relatives have removed bodies and pieces of bodies, and survivors too traumatised to talk. On Boxing Day: at least 50 cadets killed at Gaza City’s main police station alone. On Monday: reports, not denied by Israel, of phosphorus shells used over civilian neighbourhoods. On Tuesday: 40 children and teachers found dead in the wreckage of a school. And yesterday: reports of up to 30 more children killed in a house to which Israeli troops had moved them for their own safety.

For all Israel’s claims to have launched only targeted strikes on Hamas targets, it has shown scant concern for civilians caught in Gaza’s crossfire in the past two weeks. Yet this is as nothing next to the contempt shown by Hamas.

[End Kamm’s scribble here]

This man Kamm has now become the main attack against the Jews of Israel because he is perched in The Times.

Look at what he says here!

He says that the Jews of Israel have created in Gaza “visions of hell”. Did I not read that above or am I imagining it.

Of course he goes on to cover this attack on Jews by attacking Hamas. Of course he does! We have learned that Kamm talks out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

But the stark reality is his words above. That is what sticks and we can say that Kamm is his tiny little mind preparing to give evidence against Jews in the Hague Kangaroo Court.

Break the above down into manageable chunks and we have:

bodies and pieces of bodies

survivors too traumatised to talk

at least 50 cadets killed at Gaza City’s main police station alone

reports, not denied by Israel, of phosphorus shells used over civilian neighbourhoods

40 children and teachers found dead in the wreckage of a school

30 more children killed in a house


You see what I mean about Kamm. He is composing right there and then the evidence which he will joyfully present in person to the Hague Court against the Jewish people just as he helped do in the Hague Kangaroo Court.

And where is Kamm getting all of this garbage from. We have seen that his mate Le Bor was getting it from “Palestinian sources”, so what about Kamm.

This is precisely what he did in Yugoslavia. He promoted the Big Lie that the Serbs created a Massacre in Srebrenica even though there was no unbiassed evidence that he could produce, and he NEVER did.

So what about this evidence above? Where did he get this from???

Jewish people, every single poor oppressed Serb person who knows Kamm and has learned to really hate this man will warn you, please beware.


by Felix Quigley

January 14, 2009

The reactionary crowd of British and EU journalists who were the persecutors of the Serbs and who joined in with the Islamofascists in Bosnia and elsewhere have just started to persecute this time the Jews of Israel.

This is the meaning of the article by Adam le Bor, who is a big friend of Oliver Kamm, and all these reactionary characters who run Harry’s Place, and his article which more or less is giving the nod to bring Israel before the Kangaroo Court in the Hague.


It is going to backfire because many Serbs and Russians etc are going to start supporting Israel against Jihad and against this rotten lying Media.

4international is going to fight Le Bor and Kamm every step of the way. Kamm has since Yugoslavia been promoted to a BIG position in The Times of London. Kamm is now a big shot. No matter little Kammie, the bigger they are, the harder the fall.

Back to Le Bor. We showed just now that Le Bor is using Hamas lies in order to conduct a new war against the Jews, last time it was using Izetbegovic lies to conduct war against the Serbs.

Who does this guy really work for!!!

Now the wonderful IsraelNationalNews has done a review and a prediction really. The antisemites are going to try to bring Israel in front of the Hague Kangaroo Court which Le Bor and Kamm supported with all their being against the Serbs.

Jews and Serbs! Time to wake up and see the connections!

[Start quote from INN here]

IsraelNN.com) The IDF is preparing for a wave of lawsuits following the Cast Lead operation in Gaza, senior defense officials said Wednesday. The IDF has already set up a team responsible for reviewing evidence from Gaza in preparation for claims filed in international courts.

Attorney General Menachem Mazuz said the threat of international lawsuits was “not new,” but promised “intense activity” aimed at preventing the success of such suits. Several soldiers have been trained to film events while fighting, and the videotape is being reviewed by legal experts as well as intelligence agents. In addition, the IAF is filming all airstrikes in Gaza.

Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann was unsurprised by the threat of lawsuits. He appeared unconcerned, saying Tuesday, “As a general rule we are very humane… We conduct pinpoint operations against terrorist organizations.”

As the operation continues Israeli diplomats have gone on the offensive, accusing Hamas of war crimes. On Wednesday Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Gabriela Shalev filed a complaint blaming Hamas for civilian deaths in Gaza. Hamas uses innocent civilians as human shields, Shalev charged. Senior IDF officials have made similar accusations.

Senior IDF officers have faced international lawsuits in the past. Officers have been forced to avoid visiting Britain and other European countries for fear of lawsuits. Suits were filed in the United States as well: former IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Yaalon was accused of war crimes by a U.S. group in 2005, and a similar suit targeted Caterpiller, Inc. for selling bulldozers to Israel.

Mazuz: Legal Experts Approving Gaza Ops
In order to prevent lawsuits, legal experts are involved in the decision-making process, Mazuz said. “Representatives from the IDF Attorneys’ Office are sitting in the command room and approving each operation and target,” he explained.

IDF attorneys are not taking sole command of the decision-making process, Mazuz clarified. “In the end, the decisions on the ground are made by the military, which sees things in real time,” he said.



by Felix Quigley

January 14, 2008

Adam le Bor who is linked to the reactionary pro NATO Harry’s Place has opened up a new front against Israel as the small Jewish country fights for its survival against Islamic Jihad and world anti-Semitism, as seen in the anti-Semitic placards carried on demos in many cities last weekend.


Le Bor is not only linked to the leeches on Harry’s Place and to people like Oliver Kamm, he is also associated with a guy called  Anthony Dworkin who runs the pro NATO Crimes of War website.

So far the links between the Jihad against the Serbs, supported by US and EU Governments have not been drawn to what is happening against Israel.

But these links are very real.

The same Big Lie techniques of the Media that were used against the Serbs are being used wholesale against the Jews.

Le Bor is just one. There were so many involved in the Big Lie against the Serbs, people like Maggie O’Kane from Dublin and almost all of the rotten Media. One exception and one exception only the wonderful, sadly now deceased Eve Ann Prentice.


Le Bor is the first of these to come out in a scandalous atack on the right of the Jews of Israel to defend themselves against a Jihadist enemy.

This link is of the greatest importance because it opens up the way that the US and EU Governments are feeding finance into Abbas who in turn is passing it on to Hamas.


Le Bor is either a total idiot or a scheming liar. I caught him on the Maurice Boland radio show some months ago claiming that Hajj Amin el Husseini had spent the war years in Berlin. Having written books on the area le Bor claimed then that he did not know. That is he did not know the fact that is known by all historians, el Husseini was the leader of the Holocaust in the Balkans and is photographed there with the Nazi SS. You take your pick about Le Bor, idiot or liar, I know which one I choose, liar.

Why did Le Bor insist on keeping el Husseini in Berlin and not in the Balkans? he did so because he wanted to keep his association with Izetbegovic hidden. In fact they both were members during the Holocaust in the Balkans of the Muslim Brotherhood. They had to be closely involved in the Holocaust of Jews, Serbs and Romany in the Balkans and wider.

Dworkin introduces his piece called “On War Crimes in Gaza” and its first sentence suffices for us to know his anti Israel line. I have no intention of delving any deeper in the reactionary guff of Dworkin because really his whole politics is contained in his first sentence


[Begin quote here from Dworkin]


Israel launched its latest full-scale offensive against Hamas in Gaza on December 27, saying its action was necessary to end rocket attacks against Israeli towns.


[End quote from Dworkin here]


On 4international we are mindful of our reader’s time. Why delve any deeper into this anti Israel filth from this liar?


Dworkin seems to live in an imaginary world, where rocket attacks are only at the level of Israel “saying” that Israel is being attacked.


No Dworkin you political fool the rockets are real and everybody in the world knows that they are real, so why is it in your mind only a matter of “Israel saying”!


Dworkin never once refers to the anti-Semitic political theory that underpins Hamas and Fatah. Dworkin does not once tell the actual history of these rockets. Of course how could he since he does not really believe the rockets are a fact, that they exist in this real material world, just that Israel is “saying”.


Dworkin never refers to the Jews leaving Gaza and handing it to the Arabs. Why not?


He is moving the reader into “proportionality” etc and into discussing how many Arabs die, how many Israelis die.


Which is totally immaterial.


The only thing that matters in this case is the very first rocket that was fired by these Arab terrorists into Israel from Gaza. It is the first rocket that is the casus belli. Not the second or third Dworkin you Dwork! The first, got it!


And since Hamas has fired 6000 rockets over 8 years against Jews in Israel then there must have been a number 1. That Dwork is the casus Belli.


Let us turn to Adam le Bor who is posing as a friend of the Jews, writes for all sorts including this site Jewcy!!!


In fact let us treat our readers re le Bor to the same treatment. Let us not BORE our readers unduly with le Bor!


So I will spare the reader all with just one paragraph and here I am being most generous because in fact boredom may indeed set in before the end. Try to stick with it!


[Begin paragraph from Adam le Bor here]


Let’s start with Israel. International law requires that military operations meet standards of proportionality. Is the attack self-defense or an act of aggression? Is the scope and scale of the military campaign proportionate to the threat? Israel has the right under international law to take military action in self-defense against Hamas, but the proportionality of the scope and scale of its campaign remains debatable. The high civilian casualty figures — 920 Palestinians killed, including 292 children, according to Palestinian sources — only add to this unease. There is also the crucial question of intent. Is Israel seeking merely to end the rocket attacks, which is legally justifiable, or aiming to completely destroy Hamas as an organization and political force, which is not. However, even if Israel plans to destroy Hamas’ organization, this objective in itself is not a war crime.

[End quote here]


It is the sentence in the middle that I wish to draw the reader’s attention to in order to understand what kind of a man le Bor really is. This is the man who Maurice Boland, Dublin Jewish man, invited le Bor onto his radio show to talk about Yugoslavia and War Crimes committed by the Serbs on Muslims!!!

His figures like this:

920 “Palestinians” killed

292 children

and this supposed to be trusted journalist and supposed friend of the Jews writing of course on JEWCY adds a detail which may not be picked up by anybody who trusts le Bor, the words “according to Palestinian sources”.

Le Bor thus does not have time to seek out any Israeli sources.

But he takes the word of the Arabs for this vital statistic.

According to Le Bor it means that one in three in this war who has been killed by Israel is a child!!!

All I can say about Le Bor is “What a spreader of Arab Paslestinian lies he is”.

Is LeBor not part of the same gang who we saw in London Dublin etc going about on demos carrying these imitation babies. The same lying propaganda no!

Le Bor has written lots, but he has never written about the Mohammed el Durra France 2 case, never about the fake Jenin massacre, never about the Qana affair which was proved totally bogus by British site EU Referendum and in which the issue of dead children was used callously by Arabs against Israel.

Just on this one sentence Le Bor has given us all an insight into his lies and his lying political and journalistic method.

Here le Bor is a purveyor of the lies of the Arab Hamas crowd all Jew haters to a one. Is he not! Is this not what he is doing in essence? In Yugoslavia he was the purveyor along with so many, Maggie O’Kane et al, of all those lies of the Izetbegovic Islamist crowd against the Serbs!

The man is a sewer. He follows the Islamofascists around the world and purveys their lies for them. He did it for Izetbegovic. Now he is doing it for Hamas. Is he not?

Why would le Bor take this lying figure from the Arabs in the conflict?

It is the worst of all charges.


But le Bor does not even blush in spreading this figure no more than he did when he also falsely said that there was a massacre of 8000 in Srebrenica

These people who are posing as journalists etc are really the scum of the earth.

These are the people who are stepping up the attack on Israel which is fighting against a classic Jihad operation. The Jews move out of Gaza and give it to the Arabs. The Arabs stick it in their back pocket, say to the Jews thank you very much, and intensify the attack.

If Olmert gives Abbas and Fatah Judea and Samaria Abbas will pocket it as well, not even bother to say thanks, flood the area with Jihadists, and attack attack and attack again. But this time they would have gained more and made the central part of Israel 9 miles or so wide.

But why should le Bor care. As Jews face nuclear annihilation…He will be off writing another book and if Maurice Boland, Dublin Jewish radio host gives le Bor another plug on his show it will be worse than scandalous. It will be a betrayal of the Serbs. It will be a betrayal of the Jews.


I will add an apendix to this article. Please resist reading if you hate being bored by le Bor

These are 3 critical paragraphs

[Begin 3 critical paragraphs by le Bor here]

Three incidents in particular give cause for concern that Israel has breached international humanitarian law and/or committed potential war crimes. The first was the killing of numerous Hamas police officers at a passing out parade in Gaza city in the first wave of bombing. These policemen were part of Hamas’s political and civil infrastructure, certainly, but were not engaged in combat at the time and were not obviously involved in organizing or carrying out attacks against Israel, and that is the crucial point.  If the police were regularly engaged in attacking Israel then arguably they could be a legitimate target, even while on parade. But most press reports say that the Hamas police were used for traffic control and internal security.

The second incident was the bombing of the Fakhura school, run by the UN, in Jabaliyah refugee camp. Civilians are increasingly seeking shelter in UN buildings, the GPS co-ordinates of which are given by the UN to the IDF. About 40 Palestinian civilians were killed when an Israeli mortar hit the school. The IDF claimed that Hamas militants fired from near the school. It responded with three mortars. Two hit their targets, the third missed by thirty meters and hit the school, causing terrible carnage. Israeli troops are allowed to fire back at Hamas, but are obliged to ensure that harm to nearby civilians is not disproportionate. If there is a high risk that the attack would cause disproportionate harm to nearby civilians they are obliged to hold their fire. Again, the degree of risk is a matter of interpretation. Accidentally hitting a nearby school while engaged in actual combat with the enemy in that vicinity would be unlikely to classed as a war crime as the law allows for some degree of confusion and error.

The third incident took place in Zeitoun, a district of Gaza city, where, according to survivors’ reports, Israeli soldiers ordered about 100 members of the Samouni clan into a single home one night. Early the next morning Israeli troops repeatedly shelled the house, killing and wounding dozens. Some managed to flee, carrying the wounded and the dying. However, according to the Red Cross, Israel only allowed its medics to enter the house on Wednesday, where they found a chilling scene: four weak and distraught toddlers, clinging to the bodies of their mothers. According to the Red Cross: “the Israeli military failed to meet its obligation under international humanitarian law to care for and evacuate the wounded.” Israel said it was waiting for the Red Cross to present its evidence.

Paragraph 1…What world is le Bor living in? Hamas is at war with Israel. Does le Bor not get that yet?

Critical words are when le Bor gives his sources as being “most press reports” but so what le Bor, if the Press is hostile to Israel and is friendly to the terorists of Hamas


Paragraph 2.

Where did the IDF claim that? Le Bor gives no sources, in fact never does in this article. Nice and vague!

Paragraph 3

Critical words of professional liar le Bor are “according to survivors reports”.  That is acording to Arab Palestinian Hamas reports. What if the “survivors” were spinning a yarn which was precisely the points I made to Boland re the le Bor claims on Srebrenica.

Extra little note for Jewish readers:

Overlap takes place here, please note all Jewish people. The “Red Cross” was proven to be total liars in Srebrenica and in Yugoslavia in general!

Just because something is called “Red Cross” does not mean it tells the truth!




Hate crimes and support for

terrorists in Canada

miércoles, 14 enero, 2009 3:06 PM
The following email was sent by Canadian fighter and advocate for Israel Joseph Alexander Norland. It is to the point and 4international supports it totally…FQ on January 14, 2008
pmw@netvision.net.il, “stockwell day” <DayS@parl.gc.ca>, “Jason Kenney” <kenney.j@parl.gc.ca>, bairdj@parl.gc.ca
Ottawa, 2009_01_14


In the course of Canadian rallies and demonstrations against Israel, two elements surfaced that in my opinion require government action in the name of “peace, order and good government”:

(1) explicit anti-Semitic agitation, in contravention of Canada’s hate crime laws; 
(2) overt support for Hizbollah and Hamas, terrorist organizations according to Canada’s laws.

TV broadcasts, news reports and video clips on the web substantiate my claims, as you must have seen.  For the record, I cite


where you can (inter alia) hear a frenzied Montreal mob cry “the Jews are our dogs” and see the mob carry Hizbollah flags.

I am asking you to take urgent action on both these accounts, lest we see in Canada a repeat of the 1932-33 demise of the Weimar Republic.  When governments fail to act with force against terrorist-huggers, the latter feel empowered and seize the reins of government.


Dr Joseph Alexander Norland
Ottawa, Ont., Canada