The Israeli/Palestinian conflict as not being one over land, but over Islamic doctrine

by James Stephens

February 26, 2010

Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch makes vital points  in this analysis of the phenomenon which is Mosab Hassan Yousef.

In the opinion of 4international this is one of the most important factors in the situation in the Middle East, an Arab who turns decisively against Islam.

We on 4international are not at all against Arabs, we are against the backward and reactionary political ideology cum religion of Islam, and if Arabs are going to have any future, especially Arab women, then they have to make a decisive break with Islam.

But this means facing up the the reactionary Fascist ideology which underpins Islam.

There are those Jews and others, I know one in Southern Spain, who continually claim that Islam is OK, it is just that there are extremists, and then of course this person says there are extremists in all religions.

But what will this person do now about Mosab Hassan who has broken from Islam. Will he attack him?

This is why this analysis by Spencer is so important, and also important is the comment which we place at the end, which was one of many good comments on Jihadwatch, url provided by us for you to visit yourself. Sorry it is 2 comments, I cannot omit the comment by Sean, and he has an url which I intend to visit, but it is the comment by 4infidels which gets to the very heart of the issue

[Begin analysis by Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch here]

Even a moderate Muslim who reads the Koran must read that the Jews are the sons of apes and that the infidels must be killed”

Mosab Hassan Yousef is the son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, a West Bank Hamas leader. Mosab Hassan Yousef is a convert to Christianity. In this interview he speaks about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as not being one over land, but over Islamic doctrine, which is intransigent and can never allow for the existence of an Infidel polity, much less a Jewish State, on what Muslims consider to be Islamic land. He speaks about the problem being rooted in the Qur’an.

This is what we have said here many, many times, and so it should come as no surprise to longtime Jihad Watch readers, or to anyone who is fully informed about the motives and goals and beliefs of the jihadis. But it will come as a total surprise to the learned analysts who dominate the discourse in Washington, and they will dismiss it out of hand. “Israel’s spy in Hamas (Part II),” by Avi Issacharoff for Haaretz, February 26 (thanks to Mladen Andrijasevic):

[…] “Many people think the terrorists’ motivation is the Israeli occupation, the corruption, but all that is just the backdrop. It is not the root of the problem. The occupation is like the rain that falls on the soil in which the seed has been planted, but it is not the seed itself. The root of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict does not lie in security or politics: It is a war between two gods, two religions. Between the God of the Torah and the God of the Koran. The Koran teaches that this is Waqf land – a sacred endowment which must not be given up. The Torah taught the Jews that this is their land and must not be given up.”It follows that there will be no peace in the Middle East. Israel’s problem is not with Hamas or with any other organization, nor with the interpretation Hamas reads into the Koran. It is with the god of the Koran. After all, even a moderate Muslim who reads the Koran must read that the Jews are the sons of apes and that the infidels must be killed. The Palestinians must stop blaming Israel, or the West, for all their problems. If they want true freedom, they must free themselves from their God.”

You sound completely pessimistic. What about a Palestinian state?

“That is not a solution. Today we do not have a leadership worthy of ruling, not Hamas and not Fatah. The Palestinians move between the corrupt leadership of Fatah, and the Hamas leadership, which sends them all to die. Besides, Hamas cannot make peace with the Israelis. That is against what their God tells them. It is impossible to make peace with infidels, only a cease-fire, and no one knows that better than I.

“The Hamas leadership is responsible for the killing of Palestinians, not Israelis. Palestinians! They do not hesitate to massacre people in a mosque or to throw people from the 15th or 17th floor of a building, as they did during the coup in Gaza. The Israelis would never do such things. I tell you with certainty that the Israelis care about the Palestinians far more than the Hamas or Fatah leadership does. Israel withdrew from Gaza, and instead of the place being built up and cultivated, look what happened there. We need to take a break from these leaders. And I call on the government of Israel: Never accede to Hamas demands, not even about Gilad Shalit. They will not hurt him – he is too important to them. Even if it goes on for 10 years, Israel must not give in and release all those people from prison.”

Important comment by Sean

sean | February 26, 2010 8:12 AM | Reply“Islam is the only religion which is more obsessed with unbelievers than it is with its own followers. Muslims define their own identity solely in opposition to the Kuffar. Islamic accomplishments are so negligible that they have no positive cultural features with which they can identify. Hence the unceasing and implacable aggression toward civilized peoples and envy of their accomplishments. The development and deliberate cultivation of hatred is such a central feature of Islam that there is nothing that we Kuffars can do, or not do, that would make our univited guests hate us any less or any more.

Rage is so intrinsic to Islam that external events are irrelevant. Hatred of non-Moslems is the pivot of Islamic existence. Muslims are bound together by a shared and carefully nurtured animosity to ‘The Other’ developed from earliest childhood, which ignites a permanent fire of tension between Moslems and non-Moslems. Ever since Jihadists started immigrating into the West, we have become all too familiar with concepts such as ‘Killing the unbelievers wherever you find them’ and the tribal polarities of Dar al-Harb versus Dar al-Islam , Ummah versus Kuffar etc.

Very little of the Koran is devoted to how to be a Muslim, the religion of Islam. Instead, the majority of the Koran is about kafirs, non-Muslims. Kafirs are the worst of the creation. Allah hates kafirs and plots against them. Kafirs can be tortured, murdered, robbed, raped and enslaved. The Koran is fixated on kafirs, as was Mohammed.”
http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islam-terrorism.html

Second important comment by 4infidels. This comment is of extreme importance

How long until mainstream American Jewish organizations tell him to tone down his message, that their mission includes interfaith dialogue, and that they are officially committed to the two-state solution? “My gosh, he sounds Islamophobic and we can’t be associated with someone like that!”

Do you think that the Jewish newspapers and JTA will even cover this important interview or will they continue to do PR for J-Street and the Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood-linked organizations with whom they are “engaged in dialogue?”

I’m sure Pres. Obama could inform him that while he condemns the violence, Hamas has “legitimate grievances.”

Funny how Mosab Yousef comes to the same conclusions that this website has regarding Islam and the nature of “the conflict.”

THE REALITY OF THE DUBAI ASSASINATION PROPAGANDA IS THIS WAR

February 25, 2010

This is the analysis by DEBKAfile of the way that Arabs, Islam followers, and antisemites are preparing to make war on Israel and to end the Jewish Homeland

[Begin analysis here]

The secret transfer of the mobile surface-to-surface Syrian-made Fateh-110 (range 250km) missile to Hizballah sparked the prediction Friday, Feb. 5 from an unnamed US official that cross-border arms smuggling from Syria into Lebanon outside state control was “very dangerous”  and “paved the way to war similar to Israel-Hizballah conflict of 2006. debkafile’s military sources report that Israel warned Syria through at least two diplomatic channels against Hizballah using this lethal weapon, which is capable of reaching almost every Israel city.


Our sources disclose: Syria pulled the wool of Israel’s eyes for the transfer by openly training Hizballah in the use of SA-2 and SA-6 surface-to-surface missiles. Israel had warned it would deem their passage into Lebanon Syrian casus belli by Syria.

The Fateh-110 is still more lethal, accurate and dangerous than the SA-2 and SA-3. it confronts Israel now with a Hizballah armed with a solid-fuel propellant, road-mobile, single-stage, short-range ballistic system weighing three tons with a half-ton warhead and a range of 250 kilometers. It is not deployed in surface batteries but fired from mobile launchers, which the solid propellant renders capable of firing at speed with little advance preparation, before returning to the fortified underground silos Hizballah has sunk in mountain areas across Lebanon.
These features make the Fateh-110 a very tough target for Israeli bombers to strike.
According to our intelligence sources, Israel posted warnings against Hizballah using the weapon through US Middle East envoy George Mitchell who called on president Bashar Assad in Damascus on January 20 and ,even more emphatically, through Spanish foreign minister Miguel Moratinos who arrived in Syria on Feb. 3 after talks in Jerusalem. The message he carried was that if Hizballah ventured to fire the Fateh-110, Israel was determined to hit back at strategic and military targets inside Syria.
This warning instantly prompted the war rhetoric which emanated from Assad and his foreign minister Walid Moallem. Israeli foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman, known for his undiplomatic, blunt style, responded by warning Syria that it stood to lose the next war and the Assad family would lose its grip on power in Damascus.
Prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and defense minister Ehud Barak are presumed to have endorsed the first part of Lieberman’s comment as representing their own view. But the minister added the personal threat on Syria’s leaders on his own initiative.  

http://www.debka.com/article/8591/#8591

Those who we hear blaming Israel for the Dubai Assasination and hiding this reality are very simply antisemites. Antisemitism is what it is ALL about. Same old story!

THE DUBAI ASSASINATION ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ISRAEL ARE PREPARATION FOR WAR

February 25, 2010

I am mystified by the assasination of this Hamas antisemite in Dubai but I am not at all mystified by how the antisemites of this world are doing all they can to blacken the name of Israel and the great force of this antisemitic cam`paign-

Hamas terrorist al-Mabhouh; Israel blamed

The action of the Irish Foreign Minister should be noted. This is a report from the Israel National News website

“I intend to meet the Israeli foreign minister in Brussels to underline our deep concern about the fake use of passports in Dubai and to seek reassurance and clarification on this very serious issue,” said Irish Foreign Minister Michael Martin. British Foreign Secretary David Miliband also is expected to raise the issue with Lieberman.

The assassination also weighs heavily on trade relations between Israel and the UAE, which has no formal diplomatic ties with the Jewish State.

Austria is also concerned because of reports that pre-paid chips made in its country were used in seven mobile phones used in the elimination of al-Mabhouh.

In Gaza, Hamas rejected Dubai police statements that Hamas was to blame for faulty security that allowed information about al-Mabhouh’s arrival to be leaked to Israeli intelligence agents.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/136116

We on 4international and our Irish members always in these cases point out the following.

During the Holocaust the Irish ruling elite of De Valera and Fianna fail did  not one single thing to rescue one single Jew from the Holocaust.

Moreover deValera when he heard of the death of the fiend Hitler went along to sign a condolence message to the Germans.

So Martin who is from the same party, and Fine Gael and labour were even worse, has nothing at all to say to Israel in the present day about anything.

Also the issue of wbho killed this terrorist Hamas brute is not one bit important when placed beside the reality of what he was doing in Dubai, and why he was being allowed freedom to organize the arms for Hamas to kill Jews.

You see it is how you approach these things.

If you get all bothered about who killed this brute, and ignore that he was engaged in war against the Jews, then that labels you in my book as an antisemite.

This is the DEBKAfile analysis

…certain European elements and Iran are urging Dubai and the United Arab Emirates to go all the way and bring Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Mossad director Meir Dagan to trial before the international court at The Hague. They would be accused of ordering the Mabhouh liquidation, thereby committing an act of terror, namely a war crime, on foreign soil.
debkafile’s intelligence sources report that Tehran is behind the emirates’ change of tone after their officials previously avoided directly implicating Israel. Monday too, they “discovered” another six or seven suspects in addition to the eleven previously cited.
According to our sources, Iran is intent on keeping the Mabhouh affair alive by pumping out a stream of sensational “discoveries” and innuendo in order to tar Israel as a practitioner of terrorism. Teheran’s Iranian campaign of vilification will climax Wednesday, Feb. 24, when defense minister Gen. Ahmadi Vahidi visits Qatar to rebuke its rulers on their handling of the assassination as overly tame.
The Iranian minister will ask how the emirates can expect security when they give Israeli agents free rein and permit the Americans to post interceptor missiles on their soil. Putting their trust in foreigners will not make them safe, Vahidi will argue, and advise the emirs instead to take up Iran’s offer of mutual defense pacts based entirely on regional forces.
Israeli foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman responded to the EU decision after meeting British foreign secretary David Miliband and the Irish foreign minister: “There is no proof Israel is involved in this affair, and if somebody had presented any proof, aside from press stories, we would have reacted. But since there are no concrete elements, there is no need to react.”

debkafile’s sources note that careful inspection of the CCTV clip the Dubai police released to GNTV Monday tracks a group of unidentified characters moving around in a suspicious manner, interacting, checking in and out of airport and hotels, switching disguises, shadowing Mabhouh and taking a room on the same floor as his at the Al-Bustan Rotana luxury hotel.  
Nothing on the tape links the suspects to any country or organization; neither does it show any group member moving from surveillance to killing mode.

http://www.debka.com/article/8606/

Read the following report by a source not very friendly to Israel, especially the final paragraph which points to why Israel would send so many to assasinate one person:

In the past few days the Dubai Chief of Police released CCTV footage of a hit team that took the life of Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh on January 19, 2010. This footage has sparked an international man hunt for the 11 people identified by their passport photos.

Mabhouh was a senior member of Hamas and one of its founders. He was thought to be heavily involved in the 1989 kidnapping and murder of two Israeli Soldiers, Avi Saparotas and Ilan Saadon. Mabhouh held the position of chief weapons importer to Hamas. Mabhouh has negotiated weapons deal with the Iranians to supply Hamas with long-range missiles, the deadliest weapons in Hamas’s arsenal.

The last moments of Mabhouh’s life were tracked by UAE authorities. 17 members are believed to comprise Mahbouh’s hit team. The hit team arrived in Dubai Airport 19 hours before the killing. They arrived separately from different destinations, checked in to different hotel rooms, paid for their purchases in cash, used disposable cell phones, never had telephone contact with each other but called a suspicious number in Austria. As soon as Mabhouh landed at UAE he was shadowed by members of the team. Other members of the team dressed as Tennis Players followed him to his hotel and then inside the elevator to his floor. One member checked in to a room opposite that of Mabhouh. Mabhouh took a walk around the city and came back to his hotel room around 8:30 pm. It is believed that 4 members of the team were laying in wait for him at his hotel room and ambushed him. There were conflicting reports as to whether Mabhouh as suffocated or electrocuted. After the killing, the team was able to fly out of Dubai. Since the murder, Hamas has pointed an accusatory finger at Mossad, the Israeli Intelligence Agency. Hamas believes that the Israelis assassinated Mabhouh along with perhaps some other unnamed intelligence services.

If we hypothesize that Mossad had indeed carried out the assassination certain questions come to mind.

1) Why were 17 team members sent to assassinate one man in a city like Dubai, 11 of whom were roaming the city shadowing him? Are 11 people really needed to shadow one person?

2) Why were the 11 constantly changing disguises within view of the cameras of CCTV? Surely it would draw more suspicion not less, to the team than if they simply behaved naturally. 11 different faces would surely not raise suspicion with Mabhouh with in a short span of less than 19 hours, there was no need for the elaborate pageantry of changing costumes, especially when the team knew that cameras were tracking their every move. It seems that the assassins were trying to leave a trail of evidence and draw the attention of the authorities once they had left the country.

3) At one point the female suspect looked up at the camera and smiled. The suspect, if a professional would most likely be aware that she was on camera, why would she give the camera a full frontal view of her face?

4) The passports used by the team in some cases were of real people. The passports were not stolen, rather their identity was used with a different picture and in some cases different passport numbers. At least 3 of the people are Olim, or new immigrants to Israel from Great Britain and 4 more are also Israeli citizens. Why would the Mossad use the identity of Israeli citizens in an operations of this magnitude, not only providing a direct link to Israel but also endangering its own citizens, possibly putting them on Hamas hit lists?

5) Why were two Palestinians arrested in connection with the assassination by Jordanian Authorities? What was their involvement? Were they helping Mossad or Perhaps another entity?

6) Finally, since the split between the Palestinian groups Fatah and Hamas, the two entities have been at war with each other. Weapons that Mabhouh was smuggling into Gaza would most likely be used against Fatah as well. Fatah also had an interest in the death of Mabhouh.

The Mossad has not been free of errors of late, 2 Israeli citizens were arrested a few years ago on suspicion of stealing passports in New Zealand. However, this operation seems to be even sloppier. Simply too many people were involved in the hit to escape undetected. An agency of the caliber of Mossad must know of the closed circuit cameras through out Dubai and yet the alleged Mossad agents allowed the cameras to obtain full views of their faces. Mabhouh was trailed so closely that he even bumped one of the assassins on the way from the airport. The passports were real names of real Israeli citizens, forging a direct link to Israel. spy agencies usually like to conduct assassinations without traces, especially to their own country. Unless the Mossad has become completely incompetent of late; it seems almost too easy to accuse it.

“Questions about the Dubai Assasination…”

http://middleeast.foreignpolicyblogs.com/

Fifth Christian killed in a week in north Iraq

February 22, 2009

On the same theme we continue with another reprint from Jihadwatch, this time about the position of Christians in post US invasion of Iraq. But this time we want our readers to study the comments below as well for the key issues that they raise

[Begin analysis by Jihadwatch of killing of Christians by Muslims]

Persecution in Iraq, persecution in Egypt, both jihad-motivated, and Obama and other Western leaders are worried about “Islamophobia.” “Fifth Christian killed in a week in north Iraq,” from AFP, February 20 (thanks to Sr. Soph):

MOSUL, Iraq (AFP) – Iraqi police said they found a Christian shopkeeper shot to death in the restive northern city of Mosul on Saturday, the fifth Christian killing in a week thought to be related to March elections.Adnan al-Dahan, a 57-year-old Syrian Orthodox, was found with bullet wounds to his head in the northern Mosul district of al-Belladiyat, police and his relatives said.

Dahan had been kidnapped from his grocery shop last week in the neighbourhood of Al-Habda, also in northern Mosul, according to a police officer who did not want to be named….

Dahan was the fifth Christian to have been killed during the past week in Mosul, which is located about 350 kilometres (220 miles) north of Baghdad and has a Christian population of between 2,000 and 3,000….

In late 2008, a systematic campaign of killings and targeted violence killed 40 Christians and saw more than 12,000 flee Mosul.

(That was written by Robert Spencer)

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/fifth-christian-killed-in-a-week-in-north-iraq.html

Please read these comments

Comment 1

America’s 9/11 POTUS, besides as a ‘war-president’, ran on faith. Not withstnding, he spat on Americans from a mosque, on 9/17, covering up for his Al-Saud family & friends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlFUewQ3SKU
.. then again, sae POTUS spat on Americans with the ‘Guest worker’ program after pocketing campaign contributions from corporations sucking illigal-immigrant blood.
You see, Americans and faith come right after votes. With Americans hardly thinking beyond late-night TV, helped Bin-Ladens escape. So, news like the above, should not be a surprise.

Comment 2.

What’s amazing about this is the silence around it in its complete and total absence from the national consciousness. Don’t know about it; don’t need to worry about it.

*** 8:7 ***

Somebody should start a website with a running scorecard ticker tracking the % complete of Islamization in various nations. Lebanon is pretty much gone, things are wrapping up nicely in Malay and Thai, solid progress in northern Nigeria and the southern Philippines, a new nation in norther Waziristan, and Islamic Emirate, I think, and we have that other new Moslem Nation in Kosovo, lovingly ushered in by the globo-socialist crowd. We need put a stock ticker on these Moslems for they are Action Jacksons, forceful men.

*** 92:8 ***

Which will tip in to Shaira first, Sweden France or Belgium? And don’t forget those crazy Italians. And the Spaniards hath drank this cuppeth beforeth.

Comment 3

(This by the always brilliant Hugh)

“WE DON’T WANT OUR RIGHTS. WE JUST WANT TO BE ALIVE”:

From an Agence France-Press story last week:

Christians In Iraq: “We Don’t Want Our Rights. We Just Want To Be Alive.”

Three Christians killed in north Iraq

By Mujahid Mohammed (AFP)

MOSUL, Iraq — A Christian was killed in the restive city of Mosul on Tuesday, the third in as many days, as community leaders warned of rising violence against the minority ahead of Iraq’s March 7 general election.

Christian leaders in Mosul, north of Baghdad, have criticised the security forces for “standing by and watching” as attacks against their community increase in the run-up to the parliamentary poll.

On Tuesday, a gunman emerged from a car in the north of the city and fired at two Christian students with an automatic weapon, according to a police officer who did not want to be named.

The shooter fled together with two other men in the car.

The officer said that Zia Toma, a 21-year-old engineering student, was killed and Ramsin Shmael, a 22-year-old pharmacy student, wounded. Both young men were Assyrian Christians.

“We don’t want elections, we don’t want representatives, we don’t want our rights, we just want to be alive,” said Baasil Abdul Noor, a priest at Mar Behnam church in Al-Arabi neighbourhood where the shooting occurred.

“It has become a nightmare. The security forces should not be standing by and watching. We hold them responsible, because they are supposed to be protecting us, and protecting all Iraqis.”

Also in Mosul on Tuesday, two policemen were killed and nine other people wounded as a car bomb hit a police forensics bureau, emergency services said.

Tuesday’s murder of the student came after gunmen in Mosul killed two shop owners from Iraq’s Christian minority in separate attacks, prompting community leaders to criticise the security forces.

Greengrocer Fatukhi Munir, an Assyrian Catholic, was gunned down inside his shop in a drive-by shooting late on Monday, and armed assailants killed Rayan Salem Elias, a Chaldean Christian, outside his home on Sunday.

“I condemn this organised campaign against Christians,” said Yahya Abid Mahsoob, human rights committee chair of the provincial council of Nineveh, of which Mosul is the capital.

“We (the provincial council) call upon the local and central government to take all precautions to protect Christians.”

Others have expressed concerns that Christians could be targeted in violence ahead of the elections seen as a key test of reconciliation in Iraq, which has been wracked by sectarian hostilities since the 2003 US-led invasion.

“The Christian minority has become an issue in the elections, as it always is before elections,” said Hazem Girgis, a deacon at an Orthodox church in the town centre.

“We are terrified… and the security forces are not able to offer us any security,” said Girgis.

Attacks occur on a regular basis in Mosul and surrounding Nineveh province, which is among Iraq’s most violent areas.

Human Rights Watch warned in November that minorities including Christians in the north were the collateral victims of a conflict between Arabs and Kurds over who controls Iraq’s disputed northern provinces.

In late 2008, a systematic campaign of killings and targeted violence killed 40 Christians and saw more than 12,000 others flee Mosul

Comment 4

It was during the Bush Administration that a policy was put into place which agreed with the new Iraqi goverment that the Christians should not be allowed to leave Iraq.

Now under the present administraton that policy continues.

During the civil war, back in 1993-4, that broke apart Yugoslavia the USA brought thousands and thousands of Bosnian moslems into the USA. And today those Bosnians bring more and more of their relatives here!

And still today this government INSISTS on bringing into the USA, more and more moslems from any islamic country around the world.

Is it possible that we who support this site could ask our Congressmen to help to free the Iraqi Christians and bring THEM to the USA? The future of Christians in the Iraq is very dim.

They would be asset in our fight against islamics in this country!!

comment 5

(and this is not the least important comment)

Whereever the US troops are sent, a great catastrophe befells Christians there, whether it is Beirut 1983, or Kosovo 1999, or Iraq 2003. What a disaster. Ever since the Democrat primary voters had committed a horrible blunder in 1976 by rejecting the great Sen. Henry “Scoop” Jackson and nominating the Slimy Smiley Jimmy Carter for presidency instead, this country has been afflicted by a severe case of BL, or Bad Leadership.
Just 2 years ago, this country got its one and only chance in 32 years to break the Carter curse by electing an even greater man than the late Sen. Jackson was, Rudy Giuliani. The Republican primary voters topped the Democrats’ blunder by swiftly ditching Rudy in favor of the Insane McCain and Rev. HolyBee (Mike Huckabee), who, as the governor of Arkansas, had pardoned more than twice as many criminals as his 2 predecessors combined. He let rapists loose to kidnap, rape, torture and murder women. He let incorrible violent criminals loose to murder cops.
The result is Obamus Carterus. The BL continues, with no end in sight.

Islamic supremacists murder another Copt in Egypt, outside building Muslims feared would be used as a church

February 22, 2010

We continue our coverage of the suppression of the ancient Coptic religion in Muslim Egypt by printing this coverage of another murder of a Copt, this time apparently by the Egyptian state police, who had taken over a Coptic place of worship

[Begin coverage of issue by Jihadwatch]

Will the Islamophobia never end? “Another Copt Killed as Alleged Shooters Plead Not Guilty in Egypt,” from Compass Direct News, February 16:

ISTANBUL, February 16 (CDN) — Three men accused of killing six Coptic worshipers and a security guard pleaded not guilty on Saturday (Feb. 13) as the Coptic community mourned the loss of yet another victim of apparent anti-Christian violence.The three men allegedly sprayed a crowd with gunfire after a Christmas service in Nag Hammadi on Jan. 6. In addition to the seven that were killed, nine others were wounded. The killings were the worst act of anti-Coptic violence since January 2000, when 20 Copts were killed in sectarian fighting in Al-Kosheh.

Defendants Mohammed al-Kammuni, Qorshi Abul Haggag and Hendawi Sayyed appeared Saturday in an emergency security court in Qena, a city 39 miles (63 kilometers) north of Luxor.

In front of the packed courtroom, the three men said little at the hearing other than to enter their plea before Judge Mohammed Adul Magd, according to one attorney present at the hearing. The men are charged with premeditated murder, public endangerment and damaging property.

Numerous Muslim attorneys volunteered to defend them for free as seven attorneys representing the interests of the victims looked on. The next hearing is set for March 20.

Even as the men entered their pleas, the Coptic community mourned the loss of yet another Christian, this one shot dead by police. On the evening of Feb. 9, Malak Saad, a 25-year-old Coptic carpenter living in Teta in Menoufia Province, was walking outside a meeting hall that police had seized from Christians when he was shot through his chest at close range. He died instantly.

Scant details are known about the shooting. Police surrounded the entire village and closed it to all reporters. In a statement, officials at the Interior Ministry said the Saad was killed by mistake when a bullet discharged while a police guard was cleaning his weapon. The Interior Ministry said the shooter has been detained and will be tried in a military court. Such courts are traditionally closed to the public.

One of Saad’s cousins, who requested anonymity, disputed the Interior Ministry’s version of the incident. He said that the guard had used the bathroom inside the meeting hall and had come outside of the building when he exchanged a few words with Saad and shot him at close range. The bullet went completely through Saad’s chest.

The building in question had been Coptic-owned for 16 years, but two days prior to the shooting, police seized it after a group of Muslims started a rumor that the owners planned to convert the hall into a church building.

Disputes over worship venues are common in Egypt. Copts and other Christians are extremely restricted in opening or even maintaining houses of worship because of complex government statutes. Anti-Christian elements within Egyptian society often use the statutes to harass Christians, Christian leaders said….

 

Sharia forbids dhimmis to build new houses of worship or repair old ones. Even though Egypt is not a Sharia state, that is what is behind these “complex government statutes.”

(written by Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch)

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/islamic-supremacists-murder-another-copt-in-egypt-outside-building-muslims-feared-would-be-used-as-a.html

Pakistan: Taliban behead 3 Sikhs for refusing to convert to Islam

22 February, 2010

Today we cover an article on Jihadwatch concerning the beheading of 3 young Sikhs by Muslims in Pakistan, and also following a comment by Hugh on Jihadwatch which deals with the real dhimmi issue within Islam, and how this is an issue which is hidden by those very dangerous people in the West, and in the Western media, who talk as if Islam was a “religion of peace” only spoiled by some indeterminate number of extremists

[Begin article on Jihadwatch]

A sizeable number of Sikhs lived in the tribal belt, particularly Aurakzai Agency, till the Taliban imposed jiziya or religious tax on them in 2009,” in accordance with Qur’an 9:29. “Three Sikhs beheaded by Taliban in Pak,” from the Economic Times, February 22 (thanks to all who sent this in):

NEW DELHI: In what threatens to cast a shadow on the upcoming Indo-Pakistan talks scheduled for February 25, three Sikh youths were beheaded by the Taliban in Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA) region after they allegedly refused to convert to Islam. Their severed heads were dumped at a gurudwara in Peshawar.

The Sikh youths — identified as Jaspal Singh, Sarabjit Singh and Baronat Singh — had gone to realise the money owed to them by some people in the FATA region adjoining Afghanistan, when they were abducted by the Taliban militia. They were allegedly told by the Taliban to embrace Islam or face death. When the Sikh youth refused, their heads were chopped and sent to the Bhai Joga Singh Gurudwara in Peshawar.

A sizeable number of Sikhs lived in the tribal belt, particularly Aurakzai Agency, till the Taliban imposed jiziya or religious tax on them in 2009. Most members of the community, faced with increasing pressure from the Taliban to convert to Islam, have since fled to cities across Pakistan

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/pakistan-taliban-behead-3-sikhs-for-refusing-to-convert-to-islam.html#comments

[Begin comment by Hugh here]

We are all waiting expectantly, waiting for the anguished outcry, and fierce denunciation of this, from Pakistan, from CAIR, from the O.I.C.

And how curious it is to note how the report in the Indian paper matter-of-factly mentions the Jizyah: “till the Taliban imposed jiziya or religious tax on them in 2009.” Yet, it appears not to make much of a difference in the behavior of the Indian government, surprisingly supine at times about the menace that Islam so clearly poses to all non-Muslims — Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists, Christians, and even the handful of Jews — in India, as it does everywhere else.

Still, it’s better than no mention of the Jizyah, which is what you get in the American and other Western coverage of how the Taliban treated Hindus and Sikhs. Mention was made, fleeting mention, of Hindus being required to wear yellow identifying dress, but I do not recall ever seeing anything in the mainstream press about the imposition of the Jizyah.

In fact, I don’t recall seeing the word “Jizyah” ever in any of the thousands of stories about Muslim-non-Muslim conflict, not once, in the New York Times, or the Washington Post, or any British publications. Why not? Why is it so impossible to inform non-Muslim readers about the legal status of non-Muslims under Muslim rule? Antoine Fattal, a Lebanese Christian, wrote a whole book about it. The American government has yet to see fit to have that book translated from the French. Why? What is it spending its hundreds of billions in that “war on terror” on? More cash for Muslims, so as to keeep them happy so they won’t join the Taliban, or Al Qaeda, or a thousand other groups? Nothing left over to pay for a translation or two?

HOW ARAFAT, THEN ABBAS, ARE CONNECTED IN TO THE HOLOCAUST THROUGH HAJJ AMIN EL HUSSEINI

by James Stephens

February 16, 2002

There are certain definite components within Islam, as we have showed, that led tyhe Arabs to make a bee line for Hitler´s nazis.

There is a graphic piece of film that shows the Arab Palestinian leader, Hajj Amin el Husseini, striding in to a conference with Hitler, not breaking step as he gives the Nazi salute, then sitting down with Hitler. Hajj Amin is dressed in Arab dress. It is shorty, but decisive.

http://chinaconfidential.blogspot.com/2010/02/hitler-mufti-friendship-revealed-in.html

It is necessary to know the history of this man, but this history has been very carefully hidden by the Left who are antisemites and oppose Israel.

The following is a good report

The Nazi Roots of Modern Radical Islam

By Tom Knowlton

The recent “Letter to the American People” allegedly authored by Osama bin Laden is a virtual ideological manifesto for Islamic extremists. It serves to outline the perceived grievances of radical Muslims against Israel and the West.

The letter claims, “It is the Muslims who are the inheritors of Moses,” dating the conflict between Jews and Arabs back to the Biblical conflict between Abraham’s two children: his eldest son, Ishmael (from who Arabs are believed descended), and his younger son, Isaac (from who Jews are believed descended). Some Muslims believe that Isaac usurped Ishmael’s birthright.

Likewise, prominent imams such as Abu Qatada, Omar Muhammad Bakri, and Abu Hamza regularly echo this claim that Arabs and Jews have been bitter enemies from the dawn of time.

However, if one examines the history of the Middle East, there is very little evidence of constant warring and animosity between Jews and Arabs.

In fact, when the city of Jerusalem fell to Christian Crusaders in 1099, the defenders of the holy city had been a combined force of Jews and Muslims. After the Crusaders captured the city, they massacred Muslim and Jewish citizens alike and left the survivors to flee Jerusalem. Not until the Muslim hero Saladin defeated the Crusaders in 1187, did the Jewish population even begin to return to Jerusalem.

Jerusalem’s Jewish community continued to prosper under the Muslim Nahmanides in 1267. But the community’s true renaissance occurred during the 15th and 16th centuries, when a large influx of Jews were welcomed into Jerusalem by the Ottoman Empire after being expelled from Spain.

For four centuries under Ottoman rule, Arab and Jewish neighborhoods peacefully coexisted. After the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, the region came under British mandate. The early days under the British also saw relatively peaceful coexistence continuing and manifesting itself in the form of Arab and Jewish neighborhoods springing up in the “garden neighborhoods” of Talpiot, Rehavia and Beit Hakerem.

However, after over 700 years of peaceful coexistence, the true start of the Arab-Israeli conflict can be dated to 1920 and the rise of one man, Haj Amin Muhammad Al Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem. As grand mufti, al Husseini presided as the Imam of the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, the highest Muslim authority in the British mandate.

History shows Al Husseini to be a brutal man with aspirations to rule a pan-Arabic empire in the Middle East. He rose to prominence by actively eliminating those Jews and Arabs he considered a threat to his control of Jerusalem’s Arab population, and he heavily utilized anti-Jewish propaganda to polarize the two communities.

In 1920 and again in 1929, Al Husseini incited anti-Jewish riots by claiming the Jews were plotting to destroy the Al Asqa mosque. The riots resulted in the massacre of hundreds of Jewish civilians and a virtual end to the Jewish presence in Hebron.

The 1936 Arab revolt against the British is believed to have been at least partially funded by Nazi Adolf Eichmann, and Al Husseini again ordered armed Arab militias to massacre Jewish citizens.

When British authorities finally quelled the rebellion in 1939, Al Husseini fled to neighboring Iraq and helped to orchestrate a 1941 anti-British jihad. As in Jerusalem, the British successfully put down the rebellion and Al Husseini fled to Nazi Germany.

Al Husseini found the Nazis to be a strong ideological match with his anti-Jewish brand of Islam, and schemed with Hitler and the Nazi hierarchy to create a pro-Nazi pan-Arabic form of government in the Middle East.

Dr. Serge Trifkovic documents the similarities between Al Husseini’s brand of radical Islam and Nazism in his book The Sword of the Prophet. He noted parallels in both ideologies: anti-Semitism, quest for world dominance, demand for the total subordination of the free will of the individual, belief in the abolishment of the nation-state in favor of a “higher” community (in Islam the umma or community of all believers; in Nazism, the herrenvolk or master race), and belief in undemocratic governance by a “divine” leader (an Islamic caliph, or Nazi führer).

The Nazis provided Al Husseini with luxurious accommodations in Berlin and a monthly stipend in excess of $10,000. In return, he regularly appeared on German radio touting the Jews as the “most fierce enemies of Muslims,” and implored an adoption of the Nazi “final solution” by Arabs. After the Nazi defeat at El Alamein in 1942, Al Husseini broadcast radio messages on Radio Berlin calling for continued Arabic resistance to Allied forces. In time, he came to be known as the “Fuhrer’s Mufti” and the “Arab Fuhrer.”

In March 1944, Al Husseini broadcast a call for a jihad to “kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion.”

On numerous occasions, Al Husseini intervened in the fate of European Jews, most notably blocking Adolph Eichmann’s deal with the Red Cross to exchange Jewish children for German POWs.

Moreover, Al Husseini personally recruited Bosnia Muslims for the German Waffen SS, including the Skanderberg Division from Albania and Hanjer Division from Bosnia. The Hanjer (Saber) Division of the Waffen SS was responsible for the murder of over 90 percent of the Yugoslavian Jewish population.

SS leader Heinrich Himmler was so pleased with Al Husseini’s Muslim Nazis that he established the Dresden-based Mullah Military School for their continued recruitment and training. In 1944, Hanjer commandos parachuted into Tel Aviv and poisoned drinking wells in Jewish communities in an effort to stir up ethnic tensions.

After the fall of Nazi Germany, Al Husseini fled to Cairo, Egypt in 1946 rather than face war crime charges for his actions in Yugoslavia. But he continued his operations.

In the late 1940s and early 1950s, Al Husseini worked closely with a pro-fascist group in Egypt called Young Egypt. In 1952 Gamal Abdul Nasser, a prominent member of Young Egypt, was among military officers who seized control of the Egyptian government from King Fu’ad. Al Husseini is reported to have been responsible for bringing Otto Skorzeny, the Nazi commando once labeled by the OSS as “the most dangerous man in Europe,” into the employ of the Nasser government.

Similarly, Al Husseini had a strong influence over the founding members of both the Iraqi and Syrian Ba’ath party. Strong evidence exists that al Husseini was instrumental in the arranging of Nazi war criminal Alois Brunner’s employment as an advisor to the Syrian general staff.

However, al Husseini’s central role in the creation of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) in 1964 is perhaps his most indelible mark on the Middle East today.

The radical Imam was the spiritual mentor of the first chairman of the PLO, Ahmed Shukairi, and saw that much of his ideology was instilled in the organization. More importantly, Al Husseini used his extensive connections to recruit financial supporters for the PLO throughout the Arab world.

Almost 30 years after al Husseini’s death in 1974, the Palestinian people still revere him as a hero and embrace his radical theology. The “Arab Fuhrer’s” close Nazi association and virulent anti-Semitism is perhaps the reason that Hitler’s Meinf Kampf is ranked as the sixth all-time bestseller among Palestinian Arabs.

Several of his descendants remain active in Palestinian affairs today.

Al Husseini’s grandson, Faisal Husseini, was part of the PLO since 1964 and served as minister without portfolio in the Palestinian National Authority, with responsibility for Jerusalem until his death in May 2001.

The radical imam’s nephew, Rahman Abdul Rauf el-Qudwa el Husseini, has been a major player in Palestinian terrorism for almost 40 years. He was the guiding force behind the merging of the Fatah faction into the PLO. In 1990, Rahman Abdul Rauf el-Qudwa el Husseini was responsible for the Palestinian community’s support of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait.

Most Mideast observers today recognize the younger Al Husseini by the secular name he adopted as his own in 1952, Yasser Arafat.

By the late 1980’s many of the PLO’s radical Muslim financiers had become disillusioned with the increasingly secular nature of the Palestinian movement. Yasser Arafat’s support of Saddam Hussein in the early 1990s strongly angered and prompted many of these extremists in the Persian Gulf states to reduce or all together withdraw their financial backing of the PLO.

An astute emerging Sunni terrorist, Osama bin Laden, capitalized upon Arafat’s political misstep and transformed his al Qaeda organization into the prime recipient of financial support from Sunni Muslim radicals. That funding has enabled bin Laden to wage terrorist attacks on western and Israeli interests for over a decade. His most recent “Letter to the American People” echoed al Husseini’s propaganda claim that “the Israelis are planning to destroy the Al Aqsa mosque.”

The is little doubt that throughout history the Arabs and Jews have encountered the kind of friction that comes from any two distinct religious or ethnic groups sharing the same geography. However, that history has largely been one of relatively peaceful coexistence.

The divergence from that pattern occurs in 1920 with the rise of a virulent anti-Semitic mufti of Jerusalem whose ideology embodied more similarities to that of Nazi Germany than to the historical Islam of Saladin or the Ottoman Turks.

The wave of extremist Islam that has plagued the world in the latter days of the 20th century and into the opening days of the 21st, has little to do with ancient history or Islam. The cause lays largely at the feet of Haj Amin Muhammad Al Husseini, who utilized murder and anti-Semitism to consolidate his power over his fellow Arabs and further his personal quest to be caliph of the pan-Arab world.

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2543

Please visit the above link, have a look at the pictures which show the close connection between Hajj Amin and the Nazis, thus the Holocaust. We will come at this from another direction later. The report above does not quite give the true picture of just how fundamental Hajj Amin el Husseini, this Arab from Palestine, was in the Holocaust.

But what is most important not to miss as you scroll down some of these pictures is Arafat at the funeral of Hajj Amin in the 1970s.

This provides the vital link with the Holocaust.

Remember also that Mahmoud Abbas, present leader of Fatah and the PA, was the 30 years sidekick of Arafat. That is the Arafat who was behind the suicide murderers who invaderd Israel like a plague of rats from the West Bank et al in the 90s.

Remember also another link here, Abbas was trained by the antisemitic Soviet Stalinists of the 60s and 70s, those who made the (stalinist) theory that the Zionists were Nazis, and also it was from here that Abbas wrote his doctorate thesis which was an opus on Holocaust Denial.

This above stated fact re Abbas brings us in to the present “Left” hatred of Israel and support for Islam despots, as in their backing almost religious style of the present “Palestinians”, as in the Fascist exponents of Islam in Iran at this very moment.