LET US GO BACK JUST A FEW YEARS…WHAT WERE AMERICAN PRESIDENTS LINING UP ALONGSIDE IN CROATIA?

IN THIS ESSAY, THE SECOND IN A THEME, WE RELY VERY MUCH ON THE OUTSTANDING WORK OF A SCOTTISH RESEARCHER. HIS NAME IS NEIL CRAIG, HE COMES FROM GLASGOW AND HE EDITS A WEBSITE CALLED “A PLACE TO STAND”.

 

THE THEME IS THAT AMERICAN PRESIDENT OFFICE, HOW THAT EFFECTS WHAT HAPPENS INT HE WORLD, WITH SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON THE ISLAM JIHAD

 

THE DOMINANT FIGURE IN CROATIA WAS TUDJMAN. THE DOMINANCE OF THIS MAN, AND HIS IDEOLOGY, LED TO THE MURDER AND EXILE OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SERBS

 

FIRST WE WILL DEAL WITH STATEMENTS OF TUDJMAN

 

NEIL CRAIG PUBLISHED TWO ARTICLES THAT I AM NOW LOOKING AT. IN THE FIRST CRAIG WAS UNSURE OF THESE STATEMENTS AND SAID SO. IN THE SECOND HE HAD DONE MORE RESEARCH AND CAME BACK TO EMPHASISE:

 

Back on 20th November I said that I was unable to be sure that the statements attributed to the Croatian leader Franjo Tudjman that “Hitler’s new european order can be justified by the need to be rid of the Jews” & “genocide is commanded by the word of the Almighty” could be proven.

(published Dec 10, 2005)

http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2005/12/tudjman-did-make-these-nazi-statements.html

 

WE WILL RETURN TO THIS VERY POINT, BUT FIRST WE WILL DRAW THE ATTENTION OF THE READER TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN CONCRETE TERMS, VISUALLY, ON THE GROUND, THE END RESULT OF DECISIONS IN THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE

 

IT WAS THE DECISION OF AMERICAN PRESIDENT CLINTON TO SUPPORT TUDJMAN THAT LED TO THE FOLLOWING, AS REPORTED BY AN EXPERT RESEARCH TEAM ON 4INTERNATIONAL

 

THIS WAS BASED ON RESEARCH CARRIED OUT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF SERBIA ITSELF IN WHICH THE MAIN LEADER WAS SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC

THE NEUTRAL READER MAY IMMEDIATE NOTICE ONE REMARKABLE QUALITY ABOUT THIS SERBIAN RESEARCH. NAMES ARE RECORDED, TIMES AND PLACE ARE GIVEN.

 

THIS IS GENUINE RESEARCH BASED ON THE HUNT FOR THE TRUTH AND HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME

 

 

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Krajina Serbian man murdered in Gracac on August 8, 1995 by Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe troops during “Operation Storm”.

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Elderly Krajina Serbian woman murdered near Knin on August 10, 1995 by Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe troops during “Operation Storm”.

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Lika, 1993: Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe Croat army attacked the UN Protected Zone, killing hundreds of Krajina Serbian civilians. This photo is of a partially burned body of an elderly Krajina Serbian woman killed in her house in Lika by Tudjman’s troops.
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 World War II Archived Photo of Croat Nazis known as “Ustashe”, preparing to slowly cut off the head of a Serbian teenage boy using a large saw as the murder weapon.

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The mutilated corpse of a Krajina Serbian soldier in Bruvno, found on September 2, 1995. Croat troops had stripped the flesh from the upper torso, leaving only the spine and ribs.

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Above two photos:Fleeing Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe Croatian Terror, hundreds of thousands of Serbian men, women and children are driven out of Krajina province in early August, 1995, during the mass murder and ethnic cleansing operation dubbed “Operation Storm” by Tudjman’s HDZ government. The US government, under Bill Clinton, planned and directed this mass ethnic cleansing operation from the very beginning.Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe troops were advised and trained in the lead up to the attack via the Pentagon’s mercenary outsourcing firm known as “Military Professional Resources Incorporated” [MPRI]. NATO aircraft – dominated by the US – repeatedly bombed the Krajina Serbian command, control, communication and radar facilities in direct co-ordination with Tudjman’s Croat army troops and Croat airforce in order to hasten the collapse of the Krajina Serbian defenses: thus enabling the deliberate pre-planned expulsion of between 250,000 & 300,000 Serbian civilians and the mass murder of thousands of Krajina Serbian men, women and children by Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe HDZ government.

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This elderly Krajina Serbian woman, unable to escape and left with nothing but the clothes she is wearing, is left behind to face Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe Croat army terror.

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Krajina Serbian children with their mother, fleeing for their lives from Tudjman’s brutal neo-Ustashe Croat army assault on the Serbian populated province of Krajina during “Operation Storm”.

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Tudjman’s Croat Army fires heavy artillery deliberately into Serbian civilian areas in the then Serbian majority city of Knin, Krajina.

SO THOSE ARE THE RESULTS OF WHAT WAS DECIDED IN THE OFFICES OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT. ONE OF THE PICTURES ABOVE SHOWS THE CROATIAN NAZIS SAWING THE HEAD OFF A SERB PRISONER AND THE READER WHO IS NEW TO THIS HISTORY MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A CONTINUUM OF HISTORY HERE, AND THAT IT IS A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME FROM THE 1940s TO THE 1980s

TO RETURN THEREFORE TO NEIL CRAIG AND HIS BACKING UP OF WHAT HE HAD SAID ABOUT TUDJMAN.

HE BEGINS WITH AN INTRODUCTION AND THE GENERAL BENEFIT OF THE WEB FOR HISTORICAL RESEARCH AND ACCURACY:

 

Back on 20th November I said that I was unable to be sure that the statements attributed to the Croatian leader Franjo Tudjman that “Hitler’s new european order can be justified by the need to be rid of the Jews” & “genocide is commanded by the word of the Almighty” could be proven.

Thanks to my antipodean friend Peter North it has now been proven (it would have been impossible to do this without the web – which is a very hopeful development for humanity). This is a translation provided by a Serbian site & from these exerpts I can see why Tudjman’s style is described as turgid. Nonetheless both remarks are there, with a marginal variation in wording but not meaning, which prove this is a separate translation of the same original document.

This is a work of supposed history & Tudjman adopts the stance of merely reporting history particularly the undeniably genocidal history of the old testment Jews (& everybody else of that era). He also scores a number of points about the actions of Germany’s enemies with which I would not disagree. Indeed many of the things Hitler did were things very respectable people proposed before him – I have also said elsewhere how the Jewish Holocaust had to be promoted post-war as his biggest crime because Hitler’s major crime, the unprovoked extermination of 24 million Soviets was effectively western policy from the late 1940s.

Indeed a disgusting aspect of NATO’s genocide in Yugoslavia is how easily the powers that be, using the language of anti-Nazism (calling Milosevic “another Hitler” etc) were able & willing to repeat Hitler’s crimes including arming & helping people like Tudjman who they knew to be genocidal Nazis. All the time the media deliberately lied unctuously inventing humanitarian reasons for the genocide our government did & they censored. If ever there was a justified war it was the one against Hitler but in doing this almost every major politician, journalist, newsreader & religious leader is metaphorically pissing on those who died in that war (this also happened literally in Croatia under Tudjman but no western leader objected). Every last one of these bastards should be arrested & (after due process) strung up from the nearest streetlamp.

Tudjman’s role as a historian gives the impression that his statement about God’s position on genocide is merely a lofty historical judgement, which would apply also to his claim that Jasenovic wasn’t a death camp merely a jobseekers transit camp & anyway it was all run by the Jews. However to do this he has to ignore the vast amount of evidence from every other source but his that the WWII Croatian Nazis were publicly committed to the “kill 1/3rd, convert 1/3rd & drive out 1/3rd” of Serbs in precisely the same way & for the same reason that Kohl, Clinton et al ignored the fact that we were employing people similarly publicly committed to genocide.

I should also mention the Simon Wiesenthal Center who, I am told, had a translation of his book & who say they specifically refused to meet Tudjman but, because their search facility goes back to just after the end of the Kosovo war cannot say why. I did email tham but am still awaiting a reply.I know that, while still alive, Wiesenthal personally said that the first ethnic cleansing was of 50,000 Serbs from the bits of Croatia held by Tudjman at the start of the war.
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PETER’S COMMENT AGAIN”..the establishment of Hitler’s new European order could be justified by the need both to remove the Jews (undesirable more or less in all European countries) and to correct the French-British sin of the Versailles order.”

“…genocidal violence is a natural phenomenon, in keeping with the human-social and mythological-divine nature. It is not only allowed, but even recommended. Moreover, it is advised in the words of the Almighty Jehovah whenever it is useful for survival or the renewed establishment of the kingdom of the chosen people, or for the maintenance and spread of His only genuine faith.”

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Tudjman.html

“…Remember also that Tudjman has made an indelible mark as a Holocaust denier and revisionist. In his pseudo-historical book Wastelands-Historical Truth, Tudjman ridiculed the notion that 6 million Jews perished in Europe and that the estimates of those murdered at Jasenovac in particular were grossly exaggerated. Incredibly, he argued that the Jews not only ran and “jealously” managed the camp, they actually orchestrated the murder of the Gypsies.

“For good measure, and to leave no doubt about where he stood, Tudjman criticized the efforts to expose Kurt Waldheim (as a matter of full journalistic disclosure, I must state for the record that I take that charge rather personally), while comparing Israeli policy towards the Palestinians to Nazi genocide, going so far as calling Israelis “Judeo-Nazis.”

While campaigning for the Presidency, Tudjman fanned the flames of xenophobia and anti-Semitism by proclaiming on Croatian television that he thanked God that his wife was neither a Jew nor a Serb. How’s that for subtlety.

“And he didn’t get better after taking office. In a move which was both reprehensible and revealing as to how far he would go to rehabilitate the fascists, several years ago Tudjman attempted to turn the Jasenovac site into a burial ground for all those who were, in his words, “Croatian war victims.”

“This obscene plan would have buried Ustashe criminals side by side with the very people they killed. There was to be no distinction between murderer and true victim. All were equally deserving of remembrance.”

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sher052098.html

NEIL CRAIG THEN FINALLY DECIDED TO TAKE UP AND TO ANSWER THE LIES OF WIKIPEDIA. THIS IS A MAJOR TASK AS THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE IS SO BIASED IN FAVOUR OF TUDJMAN

NEIL CRAIG FROM THE WEBSITE “A PLACE TO STAND” DOES TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THE LIES. HIS INSERTIONS INTO THE WIKIPEDIA TEXT IS IN CAPITALS,

Wikipedia is a very good idea since, in theory, it allows any knowledgeable people to bring up facts on subjects & by a process somewhere between dialogue & verification of facts produces accuracy.

I have contributed to articles on the Milosevic trial & the Srebrenica massacre & am moderately satisfied with both. Both are still largely on the Nato side but I accept that, at least within Nato countries, this is the popular view & enough satire has been allowed to stand in the trial article to show the weakness of the Nato case. The Srebrenica article, while in the main body containing the Nato story does have a section at the end on the alternate view & while even this section has been written & rewritten by Natoists it nonetheless contains infinitely more discussion of the theory that the bodies are those of Serbs than you will get in the normal media.

My complaint is about the article on Franjo Tudjman which (a) consists almost entirely of a bio produced by the Croatian regime (a clear breach of Wikipedia rules) & (b) the moderator allows virtually no corrections even to clear factual untruths – I have marked clear inaccuracy THUS, note that except in a really silly case I have not mentioned the adulatory nature of the language throughout in what purports to be an impartial assessment
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Franjo Tudjman (May 14, 1922 – December 10, 1999) was the first president of Croatia in the 1990s.

Tudjman’s political party HDZ (Hrvatska Demokratska Zajednica, Croatian Democratic Union) won the first post-communist multi-party elections in 1990 and he became the president of the country. A year later he proclaimed the Croatian declaration of independence. He was reelected twice and remained in power until his death in late 1999.

Franjo Tuđman
Order: 1st President
Term of Office: May 30, 1990 – December 10, 1999
Date of Birth: May 14, 1922
Place of Birth: Veliko Trgovišće, Croatia
Spouse: Ankica Tuđman
Profession: soldier & historian
Political Party: Croatian Democratic Union HDZ

Contents [showhide]
1 The Communist

2 The Dissident

2.1 The national program

3 The President of Croatia

4 External links

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The Communist
Franjo Tudjman was born in Veliko Trgovišće, a village in Hrvatsko Zagorje, region in northern Croatia.

During WWII Tudjman fought on the side of Tito’s partisans, where he also met his future wife, Ankica. He became one of the youngest generals in the Yugoslav People’s Army in the 1960s — a fact which some observers linked to the fact that he sprung from Zagorje, a region that gave few Communist partisans.HE IS FIRST RECORDED AS SERVING WITH THE PARTISANS AS THE LEADER OF A UNIT IN 1944 JUST AFTER TITO ISSUED AN AMNESTY TO CROATIAN NAZI UNITS WHO TURNED, AS POINTED OUT THERE WAS A SERIOUS LACK OF LOCAL PARTISANS & HIS EXPRESSED POLITICAL VIEWS ARE HARDLY CONSISTENT WITH OPPOSITION TO HITLER

Others have observed that Tudjman was probably the most educated of Tito’s generals (as regards military history, strategy and the interplay of politics and warfare) — this claim is supported by the fact that generations of future Yugoslav generals based their general exam theses on his voluminous book on guerilla warfare throughout history: Rat protiv rata (“War against war”), 1957, which covers as diverse topics as Hannibal’s drive across the Alps, Spanish war against Napoleon and Yugoslav partisan warfare.

Tudjman left active army service in 1961 to found the “Institute for the history of the workers’ movement”, and remained its director until 1967.

The Dissident
Apart from the book on guerilla warfare, Tudjman wrote a series of articles attacking the Yugoslav Communist establishment, and was subsequently expelled from the Party. His most important book from that period was Velike ideje i mali narodi (“Great ideas and small peoples”), a monograph on political history that collided with central dogmas of Yugoslav Communist elite with regard to the interconnectedness of the national and social elements in the Yugoslav revolutionary war (during WWII).

In 1971 he was sentenced to two years of prison for alleged subversive activities during the so-called “Croatian Spring”.

The Croatian Spring was a reformist movement that was actually set in motion by Tito and Croatian party chief Bakarić in the climate of growing liberalism in the late 60s. It was initially a tepid and ideologically controlled party liberalism, but it soon grew into mass manifestation of dissatisfaction with the position of the Croatian people in Yugoslavia, and it began to threaten the party’s political monopoly. The result was a brutal suppression by Tito, who used the military and the police to crush what he saw as the threat to his undivided power – Bakarić quickly distanced himself from the Croatian Communist leadership that he himself helped gain power earlier, and sided with the Yugoslav ruler.

During the turbulent 1971, Tudjman’s role was that of the dissident who questioned the central myth of modern Serbian nationalism, the number of victims of the Jasenovac concentration camp, as well as the role of centralism in Yugoslav and the continuation of ideology of unitary “Yugoslavism”. Tudjman felt that this originally Croatian romantic pan-Slavic idea from the 19th century had been mutated in harsh realities in both Yugoslav states into the front for a pan-Serbian drive for domination over non-Serb peoples — from economy and army to culture and language.

On other topics like Communism and one-party monopoly, Tudjman remained mostly within the framework of Communist ideology. His sentence was commuted and Tudjman had been released after nine months.

Tudjman was tried again in 1981 for the “crime” of giving the interview to the Swedish TV on the position of Croats in Yugoslavia and got three years of prison, but again he only served a portion, this time eleven months.

In 1989 Tudjman published his most famous work, The Horrors of War (Bespuća povijesne zbiljnosti) in which he questioned the number of victims during World War II in Yugoslavia. “The Horrors of War” is a strange book, a compilation of meditations on the role of violence in the world history interspersed with personal reminiscences on his squabbles with Yugoslav apparatchiks and slowly spiralling towards the true center of the work: the attack on hyperinflation of Serbian casualties in the Independent State of Croatia (NDH). THIS BOOK TITLED IN THE UK AS WASTLANDS OF HISTORICAL TRUTH IS EQUALLY DISMISSIVE OF THE JEWISH HOLOCAUST BOTH CLAIMING THAT ONLY 900,000 DIED & THAT “HITLER’S NEW EUROPEAN ORDER CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY THE NEED TO BE RID OF THE JEWS – TO SAY THAT HE DENIED THE SERB HOLOCAUST FIGURES WITHOUT SAYING THAT HE DENIED THE JEWISH FIGURES IS CLEARLY DISHONEST – HE ALSO SAID THAT “GENOCIDE IS COMMANDED BY THE WORD OF THE ALMIGHTY FOR THE RESTORATION OF THE KINGDOM OF THE CHOSEN NATION & SPREADING THE ONE TRUE FAITH” WHICH PUTS SOME DOUBT TO THE IMPARTIALITY OF HIS RESEARCH

Serbian politically-motivated history writers had claimed that the number of Serbs killed in Jasenovac was between 500,000 to 1,000,000. WHICH MAKES THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA A SERBIAN POLITICALLY MOTIVATED PUBLICATION – THESE FIGURES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AS AS ACCURATE AS THE GENERAL HOLOCAUST FIGURES ALTHO THEY NOW GET IGNORED OR DOWNPLAYED, WHICH IS NOT THE SAME AS DENIAL, BY WESTERN SOURCES These numbers were grossly inaccurate,LIE yet they were intentionally propagated, cleverly manipulated and intensified for purely political reasons: the Ustaše were a defeated enemy from World War II that had to be portrayed as ultimately negative. However, some went so far to decry all Croats by extension, and victimize all the Serbs, thereby creating a self-image of a people victimized by Croats, who are depicted as diabolical Serbocidal fanatics. This in turn led to the state of mind battening on fear, hostility and thirst for revenge. The fact that such claims were promoted by members of the Serbian intelligentsia, made it look like it was a scientific fact rather than an opinion.WHEN 750,000 SERBS WERE MURDERED AT THAT ONE SITE IT DOES NOT TAKE “PROMOTION” TO MAKE SERBS DISLIKE THE THOUGHT OF A NEW RACIALLY PURIFIED CROATIA It was Franjo Tudjman’s firm opinion that all this was done in an attempt to create and solidify Greater Serbian domination on the ruins of the destroyed, post-Titoist Yugoslavia.

Tudjman had, relying on earlier investigations, concluded that the number of all victims in the Jasenovac camp (Serbs, Jews, Gypsies, Croats, and others) was somewhere between 30,000 and 60,000. Current investigations have bracketed the figure in a similar scale — between 56,000 and 85,000 — therefore by and large confirming that Tudjman’s estimates were not fabricated. TECHNICALLY I SUPPOSE ONE COULD SAY THAT CURRENT INVESTIGATIONS OF THE HOLOCAUST HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THE JEWISH HOLOCAUST NEVER TOOK PLACE EITHER – BUT ONLY IF YOU DIGNIFY THE HOLOCAUST DENIERS AS INVESTIGATORS & IGNORE EVERYBODY ELSE – IF YOU DON’T ACCEPT THEM AS IMPARTIAL THEN YOU HAVE TO CONCLUDE THAT WIKIPEDIA ARE LYING HERE TOO They were, however, considerably lower than the official numbers and most previous estimates, which caused ample controversy.

Other controversy surrounding The Horrors of War was Tudjman’s alleged anti-Semitism, supposedly expressed in this book. On closer examination, Tudjman can be blamed only for the lack of sensitivity ONE WAY OF DESCRIBING THE “NEED TO BE RID OF THE JEWS” REMARK: he quoted various Jewish sources that show how the number of victims is hard to estimate — Jewish and Israeli historians placed the number of Jews killed in the Nazi genocide between 4 and 6 million ALMOST ALL HISTORIANS NOT JUST JEWISH ONES. The relativity of these figures (“margin of error” fluctuating around 2 million people dead or alive) prompted Tudjman to lump these estimates with evidently overinflated Serbian ones. However, in the case of Jewish victimology, figures vary ca. 30 %, whereas the Serbian victimology had no less than 1200 % “margin of error” — a grotesque example of manipulation. THIS IS A CLEAR & DELIBERATE LIE – TUDJMAN DIDN’T SAY ONLY 4 MILLION JEWS DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST HE SAID 900,000 JEWS WHICH IS VERY MUCH THE SAME “MARGIN OF ERROR” HE USES FOR HE CLAIMS MADE ABOUT GENOCIDE OF SERBS

Also, Tudjman’s style was anything but nuanced: the characteristic amply misused by Serbian propagandists who quoted Tudjman’s frequently superficial generalizations taken out of context, in order to depict him as virulent anti-Semite. This ensued in tension between a part of Jewish communities (especially in the USA and Israel) and befuddled Tudjman — a tension that was soon dispelled by prominent Jewish figures like writers and publicists Alain Finkielkraut and Philip Cohen or Tommy Baer of Jewish World Congress.

Aside from that furore, The Horrors of War, the most famous (but not the best) Tudjman’s book, remained closer to the leftist and socialist worldview, not questioning the Marxist ideology as such.

If Tudjman’s stature as a historian and publicist is to be evaluated, it would probably be along the following lines: his voluminous (more than 2,000 pages long) “Hrvatska u monarhistickoj Jugoslaviji”/Croatia in Monarchist Yugoslavia, has become standard university textbook analyzing this period of Croatian history; his shorter treateses on national question (“Nacionalno pitanje u suvremenoj Europi/The National question in contemporary Europe; “Usudbene povijestice”/History’s fates) are still valuable essays on this particular problem, while his most celebrated work “Bespuca povijesne zbiljnosti”/”Horrors of war”, consciously distorted and misused by anti-Croat propagandists of various affiliations, will, in all probability, become regarded as a book of historical importance only, since its value lies mostly in publicly dismantled central Greater Serbian modern myth- the hyperinflation of number of Serbian victims in Jasenovac concentration camp. Generally, Tudjman’s historical works are considered to have gained the status of indispensable synthetic surveys of Croatian 20th century history, while his shorter political-cultural analyses and geopolitical essays belong to the treasury of classical Croatian political thought. However, Tudjman’s overly Marxist treatises and polemical squabbles are period pieces that will, in all likelihood, vanish into oblivion.IT WOULD BE EQUALLY TRUE & SOMEWHAT SHORTER TO SAY THAT HE WROTE THE HISTORY BOOKS AS PROPAGANDA PLAYING DOWN NAZI GENOCIDE & THAT EVEN AFTER HIS DEATH THE REGIME MAINTAINS THIS RACIALLY DIVISIVE PROPAGANDA

The national program
In the latter part of the 1980s, when Yugoslavia was creeping towards its inevitable demise, torn by conflicting national aspirations (among them the most “visible” Albanian “troubles” in Serbian province Kosovo and the pan-Serbian national populist movement, moulded by Serbian intellectual elite and led by former banker and Communist official Slobodan Miloševic), Tudjman formulated a Croatian national program that can be summarized in the following way:

The primary goal is establishment of the Croatian nation-state; therefore all ideological disputes from the past should be thrown away. In practice, this meant strong support from anti-Communist NAZI & GENOCIDAL WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE SINCE NOT ALL ANTI-COMMUNISTS SUPPORTED HITLER Croatian diaspora, especially financial.

 
Since the grudges and impediments from western European countries could be expected, particularly along the lines:” We are undergoing a process of integration, and you (Croats) want to disintegrate a successful multiethnic country, Yugoslavia”, the answer was found in an equally simplistic expression: “Your pet Yugoslavia is not a multiethnic paradise, but a Serbian Communist tyranny. Do you support “integration” based on oppression?”. Or, in a more nuanced vocabulary: “Nations are simultaneously going through processes of national individualization and international integration”.
Even though Tudjman’s final goal was an independent Croatia, he was well aware of the realities of internal and foreign policy. So, his chief initial proposal was not a fully independent Croatia, but a confederal Yugoslavia with growing decentralization and democratization. He knew that this process would eventually corrode all Greater-Serbia projects, only if it could be implemented in peace.
Tudjman envisaged Croatia’s future as a welfare capitalist state that will inevitably move towards central Europe and away from the Balkans.
With regard to the burning issuses of national conflicts, his vision was the following (at least at the beginning): he knew that Serbian nationalism, which effectively controlled JNA (Yugoslav People’s Army: Serbs, who constituted less than 40% of Yugoslavia’s population, made ca. 80% of commissioned officers corps) could wreak havoc on Croatian and Bosnian soil. The JNA, according to some estimates the 4th European military force re firepower, was being rapidly Serbianized, both ideologically and ethnically, in less than 4 years UNTRUE, FOR EXAMPLE THE JUGOSLAV ARMY COMMANDER AT THE TIME THE CROATS STARTED FIGHTING WAS A CROAT . Tudjman’s proposal was that Serbs in Croatia, who made up 11 % of Croatia’s population, 12.1% ACCORDING TO THE LAST CENSUS, CROATS MADE UP 75% THE REST DESCRIBING THEMSELVES AS YUGOSLAVS OR OTHER CONSTITUENT NATIONALITIES should gain cultural with elements of territorial autonomy.
 
With regard to this point, Tudjman did not satisfy Serbian appetites that operated on many levels: the lower one was the condition that they should have the right of the contistitive people (ie., the right to secede) in any form of Croatian state — effectively, that Croatia should be defined as a bi-national, Croato-Serbian country (notwithstanding the fact that Croats constituted 78 %, and Serbs 11 % of the populace in 1991).IN FACT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION THE SERBS ALREADY HAD THAT RIGHT, CROATIA BEING SPECIFICALLY DEFINED AS BEING A REPUBLIC OF CROATS & SERBS WITH BOTH HAVING A LEGAL VETO ON CHANGES TO THE CONSTITUTION

Apart from being a stew cooked in the ideological kitchen of Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts (the mother of all Serbian expansionist machinations in 1980s), this claim had a sort of legitimacy in a purposely ambiguous formulation of Croatia’s constitution from 1974. But, it could hardly stand a dispassionate legal analysis. Everyone knew that it was only a pretext for impending Serbian aggression. SEE ABOVE – NOTE THAT THIS PHRASEOLOGY IS IN WHAT IS MEANT TO BE A DISPASSIONATE ARTICLE IN AN SERIOUS REFERENCE WORK

As far as Bosnia and Herzegovina was concerned, Tudjman was more ambivalent: initially, he thought (as did many Croats from northwestern Croatia) that Bosnian Muslims or Bosniaks are, essentially, Croats of Muslim faith and will, freed from Communist censorship, declare themselves ethnically as Croats, therefore making Bosnia a predominantly Croatian country (with 44% Bosnian Muslims, 17% Croats and 33 % Serbs) AGAIN THESE FIGURES ARE FIDDLED SERBS & YUGOSLAVS MADE UP 40% – SERBS WERE THE LARGEST SINGLE ETHNICITY IN BOSNIA. But, these illusions were soon dispelled.

The President of Croatia
Internal tensions that had broken up the Communist party of Yugoslavia prompted the governments of federal Republics to call for the first free multiparty elections after 1945.

Tuđman’s connections with Croatian diaspora (he travelled a few times to Canada and USA after 1987) have proven to be crucial when he founded Croatian Democratic Union (“Hrvatska demokratska zajednica” or HDZ, as it became known after its acronym) in 1989 — a party that was to stay in power until 2000, and which cannot be classified along criteria dominant in stable societies.

Essentially, this was the Croatian national movement that affirmed Croatian values based on Catholicism blended with historical and cultural traditions generally suppressed in Communist Yugoslavia (although soon many “repentant” Communists joined this pan-Croatian movement). The aim was to gain national independence and to establish Croatian nation-state. Tuđman’s HDZ triumphed and got ca. 60% seats in the Croatian Parliament. After a few constitutional changes, SINCE THE SERB MINORITY HAD A VETO ON THIS THE ACCURATE TERM WOULD BE “A FEW UNCONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES” Tudjman was elected to the position of President of Croatia.

Since the split among Communists in Yugoslavia was caused by the pan-Serbian movement led by Slobodan MiloševiC, it was inevitable that the conflict should continue after the democratic elections that brought to power non-Communists in Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, while Communists held their position in Serbia and Montenegro. For the tensions and wars that ensued, one should see history of Croatia and history of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

During these decisive years, especially from 1990 to 1995, Tudjman proved to be a master strategist. According to the testimonies of both friends and enemies, he outmanoeuvred Croatia’s adversaries on many levels: diplomatic, military, information and economic. While his opponent Miloševic was a brilliant tactician who, by many accounts, lacked the strategic vision, Tudjman was the exact opposite: frequently clumsy and erratic in behavior, he possessed the strong sense of mission and the vision of Croatia’s independence — and the statesman’s wisdom how to realize it.

This was seen at crucial junctures of Croatia’s history: the all-out war against combined forces of Yugoslav Army and Serbian irredentist rebels, war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Operation Storm and the Dayton peace agreement. For instance: Tudjman’s strategy of stalling the Yugoslav Army in 1991 by signing frequent cease fires intermediated by foreign diplomats was efficient — when the 1st cease fire was signed, the emerging Croatian Army had 7 brigades; the last, 20th cease fire the Croats had met with 64 brigades. IF ONE ASSUMES SERBS ARE NOT ENTIRELY STUPID A MORE ACCURATE WAY OF PHRASING THIS IS THAT THE SERBS OFFERED PEACE WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN EVERYTHING & TUDJMAN CLEVERLY WAITED TO START HIS GENOCIDAL ATTACK ON KRAJINA TILL WESTERN ARMS, LEADERSHIP & AIR COVER WERE AVAILABLE

Apart from war, other significant changes had altered Croatian society in the “Tudjman era” that covered the last decade of the 20th century. Probably the most of these changes would have happened anyway during the transition from communism to capitalism, or from one-party dictatorship to western-type democracy. Unquestionably, Tudjman has “speeded” or “slowed down” some processes by his influential position — for better or for worse.

Tudjman initiated the proces of privatization and de-nationalization with mixed results: Croatian economy coped with the war extremely well, having in mind all the pros and cons; only in the last two years of Tudjman’s tenure the detrimental effects of “wild” and unrestricted capitalism had become visible. The charge of nepotism and favoritism, frequently levelled at Tudjman, seems to be unresolved yet: his personal property was, as the official proving of will had shown, acquired in a completely legal way. TENDENTIOUS SINCE HE WAS WRITING THE LAWS, AS SHOWN, WITHOUT REFERNCE TO THE CONSTITUTION

On the other hand, it is beyond doubt that not few shadowy figures who moved close to Tudjman, the centre of power in Croatian society, profited from this enormously, having amassed wealth with suspicious celerity. Although this phenomenon is common to chaotic reforms in all post-communist societies (the best example being Russia with her “oligarchs”), the majority of Croats are of the opinion that Tudjman could and should have prevented at least a part of these malfeasances.

The most common accusation of all is that of autocratic behavior and “despotism”. This claim is both true and false: Tudjman was a strong, but democratically elected national leader and this was a mixed blessing. Faced with a superior military aggressor, the Croats, who had not yet built functioning national institutions, had to rely on a strong personal leadership Tudjman embodied. Although such kind of leadership necessarily involved unpleasant side-effects like traits of autocratic behavior, it proved beneficial in crucial matters, as the Croats under Tudjman won the war and founded the nation-state, at least partly thanks to this characteristic.

Tudjman, who had been thrice elected as President of Croatia, fell ill with cancer in 1993. He recovered, but the general state of health declined in 1999 and Tudjman died from internal hemorrhage on December 10th, 1999.

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External links
Croatian Radio Television: Dr. Franjo Tudjman, historian and statesman (http://www.hrt.hr/tudjman/index_eng.html)
Croatian Embassy to USA: Franjo Tudjman’s Biography (http://www.croatiaemb.org/tudjman/biography.html)
BBC: Franjo Tudjman: Father of Croatia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/294990.stm)
Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franjo_Tudjman”
NOTE ALLOWED LINKS ARE ALL TO PRO-NATO SOURCES – ANYBODY INTERESTED IN A MORE BALANCED VIEW SHOULD CHECK WWW.EMPERORS_CLOTHES.COM OR THE BOOK TO KILL A NATION BY MICHAEL PARENTI

// posted by neil craig @ 12:22 AM
Comments:
I don’t sympathize with nationalists like Tudjman, but much of this is inaccurate.
Here are some quotes that Parenti or his source has taken out of context:

“HITLER’S NEW EUROPEAN ORDER CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY THE NEED TO BE RID OF THE JEWS”

It’s “could be justified”, not “can be justified”. Here, Tudjman is describing the Nazi ideology and not his own. He is saying that HITLER used the extermination of the Jews as a pretext for the occupation of Europe.

“GENOCIDE IS COMMANDED BY THE WORD OF THE ALMIGHTY FOR THE RESTORATION OF THE KINGDOM OF THE CHOSEN NATION & SPREADING THE ONE TRUE FAITH”

Again, he is describing the ideology of the Old Testament, and not his own.

See this (Serbian anti-Tudjman) site http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Tudjman.html for the quotes in their original context.

# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : May 09, 2006

 

At one stage I retracted the accusation that he could be proven to have said this & then, on furhter evidence being supplied retracted the retraction – see
http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2005/12/tudjman-did-make-these-nazi-statements.html where a link to this your site already exists.

I may be that the difference between “can” & “could” is that it is being translated out of the local language & that it may be translated either way.

Remember that Tudjamn had fought for Hitler (& God or at least the Catholic Church which to believers is the same thing). When approvingly describes these as the opinions of both he is defending his own opinions.

# posted by Blogger Neil Craig : May 09, 2006

 

http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2005/06/wikipedia-nazi-monopoly-on-tudjman.html

SO ENDS THIS ARTICLE. WE ARE DEALING WITH US PRESIDENTS AND HOW THEY INTERLINK ESPECIALLY WITH ISLAMIC JIHAD, IN THIS CASE WITH CROATIAN TUDJMAN, BUT HE HIMSELF THROUGH THE HOLOCAUST IS LINKED TO THE JIHAD AGAINST JEWS.

AMERICAN PRESIDENTS AND THEIR KILLING OF SERBS IN CROATIA

AMERICA STRADDLES THE WORLD SO WHY NOT  LISTEN A LITTLE TO RUSH LIMBAUGH!

 

IT IS TERRIBLY INTERESTING. BUT THE IMPLICATION OF EVERYTHING THAT THESE AMERICAN PRESIDENTS DO, ESPECIALLY THE IMPLICATION TO WHOM THEY ARE IN ALLIANCE WITH ABROAD

AND OUR ARTICLE WILL LEAD TO THE IMPLICATION OF THEIR ALLIANCE WITH TUDJMAN. IN THIS CASE NOT THE ISLAM JIHAD BUT THAT WILL COME LATER.

BUT TUDJMAN WAS LINKED TO THE JIHAD, IN THAT HE WAS LINKED ALONG WITH HAJJ AMIN EL HUSSEINI TO THE HOLOCAUST

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

 
RUSH: Obama will host an Iftar tonight.  You know what an Iftar is?  You know what an Iftar is, Dawn?  Brian? Snerdley?  You don’t know what an Iftar is, I-f-t-a-r?  I was looking at the White House schedule today.  Poor Obama, so busy.  He’s got four events.  He had three this morning, and he’s off from noon to 8:30, at which time — and we’ve got a story about how overworked Obama is, and everybody on his staff, how overworked, and they’re starting to, they’re starting to go away, and it’s just so much stress in the Obama White House.  I feel so sorry for ’em.  But the big man himself doing zilch, zero, nada between noon and 8:30 or eight o’clock, at which time he will host an Iftar.  An Iftar is “a special evening meal observed during” — wait for it — “Ramadan”.  This is happening tonight in the White House State Dining Room. “Obama participated a similar gathering last year.  “Celebrations like Iftar dinners ‘remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings’.”  This is Obama in a written statement on Wednesday. Iftar celebrations “remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings… Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality,” wrote Obama, a “reminder that Islam has always been part of America and is that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country.” Ahem.  A list of those contributions does not accompany the president’s statement.  “The dinner comes amid a growing controversy over the proposed construction of Islamic cultural center in downtown Manhattan”. Meanwhile, the White House has been silent on that issue.  Charles Krauthammer today has a memorable piece on the entire controversy of the mosque at Ground Zero.
 
Yeah, I know Bush did Ramadan dinners as well.  Now, Iftar means that you’re breaking a Ramadan fast, and I don’t know if Obama has fasted.  The only reason I mention this is not so much because he’s doing an Iftar dinner — I just want you to remember that he could not be bothered to go to the Boy Scouts’ 100th anniversary.  But he’s got time to do an Iftar dinner out there. (interruption) Well, it’s a good question.  What did the Boy Scouts contribute to America?  Exactly right, H.R.  Thank you for helping me to put this in further context.  Just a bunch of kids, exactly right, a bunch of kids with a distorted view of America. 
 
Iftar was also a terrible movie.  Wait a minute — Iftar? Extar? Ashtar? What was it, the Warren Beatty — Ishtar! Ishtar, right, not to be confused with Iftar, the Ramadan break-your-fast dinner.  We don’t know who he’s invited.  I don’t know if he’s — there’s no guest list.  There may be nobody.  Maybe there is no dinner, it’s just a statement that’s there, who the hell knows? BREAK TRANSCRIPTRUSH: I don’t want to be misunderstood about this Iftar dinner business.  George W. Bush started the tradition, and do you know what year?  2001.  George W. Bush held an Iftar dinner in 2001.  How’s that for religious tolerance?  And we see all the good that it did.  And I have found out some of the guests at Obama’s Iftar dinner tonight.  They include the chief of mission from the PLO.  I kid you not.  The chief of mission from the PLO is one of the guests at Obama’s Iftar dinner tonight. 
 
 
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WE ON 4INTERNATIONAL WILL RETURN TO “IFTAAR”, MOST INTERESTING, IN FACT WE WILL BUILD A THEME AROUND IT, GIVEN TIME AND OUR READER’S PATIENCE!

RUSH ABOVE IS CONCERNED WITH IFTAAR AND THE US PRESIDENTS

THE FOLLOWING PICTURES AND WORDS WILL SORT OF CONCRETISE THINGS FOR THE DISCERNING READER. IT WAS PRODUCED ON 4INTERNATIONAL BY AN OUTSTANDING 4INTERNATIONAL TEAM OF RESEARCHERS. WARNING…BE PREPARED

CROATIA:

Tudjman delivered a speech to the Croatian Sabor (parliament) on the occasion of the proclamation of the Republic of Croatia on December 22, 1990. In the Constitution he proposed, and which was adopted, the Serbs lost their nation status within Croatia, and were relegated to the status of a national minority. The official war against the Serbs had been resumed.

Even before Croatia became independent, the Croatian Minister of Internal Affairs, Martin Spegelj, advised his colleagues: “We are in the war with [ie: against] the Army [Yugoslav Army:JNA] Should anything happen, kill them all in the streets, in their homes, through hand grenades, fire pistols into their bellies, women, children …We will deal with [the Croatian Serb Krajina town of] Knin by butchering.”

[end quote]

And here is proof that Martin Spegelj’s verbal threats against the Serbs were not merely bluster or sabre rattling. [photos courtesy of Julia Gorin’s blog http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1527]

Zoran Pavlovic and his sister Zorica were killed along with their entire family on November 19, 1991, by retreating Croatian forces. A view of Zorica reveals how really brutally she was murdered. Her skull was also crushed. (Photos by Goran Mikic, Reuters)

 This photograph shows a Serbian victim of Franjo Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe Nazi troops.  The victim’s name was Zoran Pavlovic and he was axed to death by modern-day Croatian “skull crushers”, killed on November 19, 1991, at 74 Nikole Demonje Street, Vukovar, Croatia. He was positively identified by surviving relatives. These revisited Holocaust crimes against the Serbs were discounted by the Western corporate controlled media as “Serb paranoia”, however these photographs clearly reveal the demonic nature of such Croatian Ustashe Nazi war crimes.

 

The above photo shows Serbian victims, Radosav Pavic and Velimir Trajkovic (both wearing red). The other victims are Zorica Pavlovic, her brother Zoran, mother Nada and Milojka Pavlovic. As Croatian forces withdrew from Vukovar on 15 and 16 November 1991, they dragged Serbian civilians from the cellars where they were hiding, and massacred them. These Serbs were axed to death in a courtyard, after being dragged from the cellar at 74 Nikola Demonja Street in Borovo-naselje, near Vukovar. All axed to death by Croatian Ustashe “skullcrushers”, sending a clear message to the Serbs that the Ustashe beast was not dead.

Marko Attila Hoare, the British pro-Imperialist, pro-NATO, “Left” phony, pro-IslamoFascist Izetbegovic supporter, revisionist Balkans “historian” at Cambridge, apologist for neo-Ustashe Nazis Franjo Tudjman and Stipe Mesic, handsomely paid ex-NATO employee of the Hague ICTY Kangaroo Court and fellow traveller of yet another pro-NATO, pro-Imperialist, pro-IslamoFascist Izetbegovic supporter and  ”Left” phony going by the name of Oliver Kamm is part of the circle in Great Britain attempting to whitewash and cover-up this monumental Western-sponsored crime against humanity.

Marko Attila Hoare has publicly gone on record as  endorsing and justifying  Tudjman’s brutal neo-Ustashe mass murder and ethnic cleansing operation of 250,000 to 300,000 Krajina Serbs on August 4, 1995 – dubbed “Operation Storm” – as being “morally justified” for Tudjman’s Croatia to have committed!! Attila Hoare even has an Orwellian “Newspeak” type of article on his blog entitled “How Croatia and the US Prevented Genocide with Operation Storm”!! Hitler’s propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, would probably blush at such a brazen “Big Lie” type of title!!

Of course, Hoare will protest that he (supposedly) condemns Tudjman’s horrendous genocidal atrocities against the Krajina Serbs

https://4international.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/tudjman-the-croatian-ustashe-nazi-genocide-of-krajina-serbs-part-2/

UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS NOT JUST MARKO ATTILA HOARE WHO DELIBERATELY HID THE ABOVE PICTURES FROM THE BRITISH, IRISH, EUROPEAN AND AMERICAN COMMON MAN, THE PUBLIC.

THIS DELIBERATE HIDING WAS ALSO CARRIED OUT BY EVERY SINGLE JOURNALIST WHO BLOGS ON HARRY’S PLACE AND MANY MORE SUCH BLOGS, TOO NUMEROUS TO MENTION

OR IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF TONTO TO THE LONE RANGER “HARRY AND FRIENDS OF OLIVER SPEAK WITH FORKED TONGUE”

aND IN THAT VEIN THE CONTINUATION OF THESE PICTURES FROM CROATIA KIND OF HMMERS HOME THE REALITY THAT RUSH AND HIS IFTAAR RUMINATION IS ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN APPEARS ON THE SURFACE

THIS US RULING CLASS, THESE US PRESIDENTS, CLINTON, BUSH, OBAMA OF COURSE, IS INTERLINKED WITH OTHER EVENTS, IN THIS CASE IN CROATIA, BUT LATER WE WILL LOOK AT PLACES LIKE BOSNIA…KOSOVO

SO CONTINUE OUR PICTURES WITH TEXT BY THAT FAMOUS 4INTERNATIONAL REPORTING TEAM:

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This photo shows Serbian victims, Radosav Pavic and Velimir Trajkovic (both wearing red). The other victims are Zorica Pavlovic, her brother Zoran, mother Nada and Milojka Pavlovic. As Croatian forces withdrew from Vukovar on 15 and 16 November 1991, they dragged Serbian civilians from the cellars where they were hiding, and massacred them. These Serbs were axed to death in a courtyard, after being dragged from the cellar at 74 Nikola Demonja Street in Borovo-naselje, near Vukovar. All axed to death by Croatian Ustashe “skullcrushers”, sending a clear message to the Serbs that the Ustashe beast was not dead.

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This photograph shows a Serbian victim of Franjo Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe Nazi troops.  The victim’s name was Zoran Pavlovic and he was axed to death by modern-day Croatian “skull crushers”, killed on November 19, 1991, at 74 Nikole Demonje Street, Vukovar, Croatia. He was positively identified by surviving relatives. These revisited Holocaust crimes against the Serbs were discounted by the Western corporate controlled media as “Serb paranoia”, however these photographs clearly reveal the demonic nature of such Croatian Ustashe Nazi war crimes.

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Zoran Pavlovic and his sister Zorica were killed along with their entire family on November 19, 1991, by retreating Croatian forces. A view of Zorica reveals how really brutally she was murdered. Her skull was also crushed. (Photos by Goran Mikic, Reuters)

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The above two photos are of a three-year old Serbian boy who was shot dead while hiding in the cellar at 72 Nikola Demonja Street, Vukovar, Croatia. His mother and father, Sladjana and Miroslav Cecavac, were also brutally killed by Tudjman’s neo-Ustashe Nazi troops. This 3 year old Serbian child was labelled a “Serbian aggressor” by Tudjman’s HDZ neo-Ustashe Croatian government and the Western corporate- controlled media. In order to stop his so-called ”aggression”, the so-called ”brave” Croatian neo-Ustashe soldiers put a bullet in the back of his head, which exited from the front of his skull. In the war in Croatia and Bosnia, by mid-1994,  7,000 Serbian children were killed: twice as many as Croatian and Muslim children combined. If, God forbid, this was your child, what would you do to his killers? (From: “The Suppressed Serbian Voice And The Free Press In America” By William Dorich, 1994 – p 30)

  

SO THIS ENDS OUR INTRODUCTION!

  

RUSH LIMBAUGH IS WONDERING AT THE WAY THAT AMERICAN PRESIDENTS MAKE A VERY BIG DEAL OF AN ISLAM HOLIDAY. RUSH IS QUITE WITTY AND TONGUE IN CHEEK WONDERS WHY MR OBAMA SHOULD FORSAKE THE BOY SCOUTS TO HANG OUT WITH THE JIHAD

  

BUT WE WONDER TOO! WHY IS IT THAT THE MURDERERS OF THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THE SERBS WERE AIDED SO MUCH BY EVERY GOVERNMENT IN THE WEST, INCLUDING THE GOVERNMENTS IN AMERICA AND THE EU!

 

the original article on 4international was

https://4international.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/tudjman-the-croatian-ustashe-nazi-genocide-of-krajina-serbs-part-2/