Much evidence has surfaced that the Srebrenica “Massacre” story is a giant hoax to rival that of Racak, Qana and the notorious Mohammed el Dura/France 2 story. We have seen from the observations of John Peter Maher that there were no reports of a massacre in Srebrenica for months and months. Why was that? You would think that if there was a massacre of 8000 by the Serbs, given the hatred in the Media for the Serbs that it would have been all over the Daily Mail every day from day one. Actually the official “Dutch Report” shows that the massacre hoax story was assembled by the NGOs, by the Media, and by the shadowy forces of the US State department with help from the British and French, therefore the significant time delay which Mr Maher spotted, which makes an examination of that Dutch Report well worthwhile.
They claimed 8000 men and boys murdered by the Serbs in Srebrenica. Sometimes it is 7000 but not quite so often. It was usually 8000.
In reviewing the Irish newspaper of record, The Irish Times, they have written from 1995 to the present in major articles referring to this Srebrenica Massacre where the Serbs murdered 8000 men and boys, going now up to 500 times since 1995, averaging out a major article every 10 days or so.
Are there 2000 such papers and magazines etc. in the world doing this? I think so and much more but if so that makes it a million such vital articles broadcast into humanity. All saying the same thing, the endless repetition, that the Serbs murdered 8000 Muslims in Srebrenica.
But there is also The Dutch Report which these media outlets seem to have stuffed deep into the unknown recesses of their filing cabinets. Thanks to Mick Tanzer a regular reader for sending details of this report to 4international.
I call it here the Dutch report, usually The Report
(Dutch Institute for War Documentation, Nederlands Instituut voor Oorlogsdocumentatie)
“Then there is this astonishing and explosive material from the Dutch “Netherlands Institute for War Documentation” Report [from 2002]This blows the lid off of how Clinton, Albright, the Western media and NATO created the Srebrenica Big Lie:
http://193.173.80.81/srebrenica/toc/p4_c05_s017_b01.html
(no longer can the report be reached at this url)
(A friend has sent me the following information. This message indicates to me how quickly important documents can be removed, or become corrupted in some way, on the net:)
(It is here as a .zip file:
http://www.yugofile.org.uk/achilles/niod.zip
You need to unzip it and then open the files locally in your browser.
That’s OK for reading it but not much good for citing pages.
I have informed NIOD that the link isn’t working but I don’t think they ever replied. Maybe if everyone complains they might do something…)
INTRODUCTION TO “THE REPORT”
This report by obviously staid conservative type people has been an absolute eye-opener.
There is much evidence therein that the Media, Dutch and British politicians, or one can say almost the whole EU political class, created this Srebrenica Hoax story between them.
Let me emphasise one more time the point made by Peter Maher, and which I proved to myself also after some study of The Irish Times reporting, in these weeks following the “massacre” there was nary a mention of the supposed deed.
This is very important to keep firmly in mind.
So with the Dutch Report my attention moved to the study which they made of how and when the stories of a massacre began to come together.
THE REPORT IS MASSIVE. I DEAL ONLY WITH ONE KEY SECTION
I am not a paid academic. There is much in it I did not read. But I did study this section of the report which deals with the investigations in Tuzla and I do believe it is the key section.
To help I have started by naming some of the main characters which I have simply culled from the report:
Two organizations that the report tends to lump together…UNHCR and the International Red Cross
From Zagreb, a combined team of the Human Rights Office of Civil Affairs and the UN Centre for Human Rights
The ‘Bosnian State Commission for the collection of information on war crimes’
The Tribunal, the key court and element in the story, we all know what that is, the ICTY of course
Amnesty International
A number of smaller NGOs.
UNHCR Protection Officer Manca de Nissa
Christoph Girod of the International Red Cross
I have noted them above but would like to draw special attention to again…
a mixed team from Civil Affairs/Human Rights Office (HRO) and UNCHR mostly from Zagreb
And from there…
Ken Bizer from Civil Affairs
HRO staff member Peggy Hicks.
(Please note this name “Peggy Hicks” very carefully. When the evidence was showing no killings at all by the Serbs, and she admitted this, she began even as she admitted same to claim the very opposite in her reports)
I am certain I have omitted some but these two are also very important in this part of the Report:
Swiss investigator R. Salvisberg, UNCHR Bosnia coordinator based in Sarajevo
T. Mazowiecki, the Special Rapporteur for Human Rights who arrived in Tuzla on 22 July, and was required to facilitate a visit to Izetbegovic’s military men, that is military men from the “safe area” which was Srebrenica. As I describe below I found this not a little fishy!
A SPECIAL WORD ABOUT TUZLA
In the report Tuzla was the key area, the area and city where the Big Lie was hatched. It was a place where many groups and shady individuals miraculously made their way to. Especially these special NGO organizations…operating like scavengers in that very Tuzla.
Tuzla was under the control of the US.
The reader needs to try to come to an understanding and opinion of what Tuzla was like in those days following the supposed “massacre”
You could start with understanding that the refugees were bussed there from Srebrenica. I make these further points to try to get a mental picture of Tuzla:
That the hatred for the Serbs in the international press was intense
That all roads led to Tuzla.
That the column eventually limped into Tuzla
Tuzla became the centre for all Serb haters and for a time the centre of Serb Hate Frenzy
To complete this mental image think of all the gutter capitalist media of the world also making their way there. There was serb hatred, there was a story, there was money, there was promotion out of pleasing the editor!
THE DUTCH REPORT WAS THE WORK OF A VERY RESPECTED DUTCH BODY
The Dutch report was written (I found) in “careful” language.
These are no revolutionaries who write this report but rather they are academics.
Consequently they, the writers of the report, use a reserved style.
Nevertheless what they are saying, and sometimes it needs a little reading between the lines because of that very reserve, is of great importance for our argument that the whole Srebrenica Massacre claim is a total hoax.
If they sometimes lose their nerve at the enormity of what they are saying and who they are challenging then we can readily understand.
We concentrate on the section dealing with the refugees in Tuzla as they were interviewed by the above mentioned people, and also the Muslim soldiers who had broken out in a military column.
THUS…The reader new to this will soon understand that in understanding about Srebrenica Tuzla was the key place, not actually Srebrenica.
There was NO massacre by Serbs of any Muslims in Srebrenica. That is a Big Lie. But the Big Lie had to be invented and it was in Tuzla that it was invented, put together bit by bit, and the Dutch Report shows exactly how that happened.
That makes the Dutch Report the absolutely key document in finding the truth.
You will notice the reserved, almost understated, style that is used, but I hope to show that despite this their meaning is crystal clear if the reader only takes the time to ponder on the thought therein.
ONCE MORE THE BACKGROUND AND WHY TUZLA?
So the Dutch Report investigators honed in on Tuzla.
We ask again why Tuzla? What brought the investigation to there?
Most people will see on television reports that the women children and elderly men were bussed to Tuzla. This was in alliance with the United Nations. The Muslims wanted to go because Tuzla was under their side.
They went straight to Tuzla. Moreover these Muslims trusted the Serbs, trusted Mladic, and knew there would be no problems. And there were no problems.
Men who were captured were arrested and held for screening, which was totally normal. This WAS a war. Over 3000 Serb peasants had been murdered in their isolated homesteads in the 3 previous years by the Muslim thugs of the SDA. The Muslims in Srebrenica were NEVER disarmed. It was in fact a jihadist camp and killing centre for Serb Christians as victims.
Even without that the Serb army was right to screen all who came out of that Jihadist centre of murder of Christians
SO WE BEGIN TO QUOTE FROM THE REPORT
Investigations among Displaced Persons
These methodological problems, as well as the hindrances created by the Bosnian authorities, also confronted the interviewers who approached the Displaced Persons for information on behalf of various organizations.
(Methodological problems indeed! The report writers get straight to the point, and the jugular, of the Islamist Bosnian leaders. If they were claiming a massacre then why on earth, if there was a massacre, would the Islamist leaders be placing “hindrances” in front of the investigators. By all the laws of common sense that does not make sense of any kind. Except it was phoney and they were actually at that very time “constructing” a massacre, a fake massacre. Think about it!)
Important roles were assigned to UNHCR and the International Red Cross, but they were joined from Zagreb by a combined team of the Human Rights Office of Civil Affairs and the UN Centre for Human Rights. Furthermore various other bodies were active, such as the ‘Bosnian State Commission for the collection of information on war crimes’, as well as the Tribunal, Amnesty International and a number of smaller NGOs.
(The vital two words in the above are “but” and “Furthermore”. It is the grammar which conveys the message. The first two organizations mentioned had “important roles” which “were assigned” to them and then there is the “but” and the “furthermore”. There is no doubt that the report is extremely annoyed with the plethora of groups all with their own agenda who descended upon Tuzla. This will become very clear as we go further.)
Some of these were eager to publicize their findings as soon as possible. As early as 31 July, for instance, the US Committee on Refugees published an extensive report on the ‘death march’ from Srebrenica based on interviews conducted by its staff member Bill Frelick in Tuzla and the surroundings.[1]
(And publishing as soon as possible in the eyes of the report means publishing on the basis of biased evidence, because the rule of the game is that they were only talking to biased Muslims. The seriousness of this becomes clear later)
Due to the nature of their work most of the organizations were cautious about publicizing politically sensitive information. UNHCR was less reserved in this respect and several times its spokespersons released details from the ‘unconfirmed reports’ by Displaced Persons.
(Look at what has happened! The writers of the Report obviously do not like this. They do not like the use of “unconfirmed reports”. They have that reserved way of voicing their displeasure or opposition.
Also
The Report began with 2 main investigating organizations, plus a lot more that they definitely are in conflict with. But within the space of a few sentences one of these two is failing miserably their test of intellectual rigour. That is the UNHCR which the Report is here critical of its method of reporting, basically dishonest, using “unconfirmed” evidence. In the eyes of this report that leaves just the one, the Red Cross. But later it too seems suspect on some issues so that leaves…well precisely none!)
This included the suspicion that the VRS had used Dutchbat uniforms to mislead refugees.[2] Serious research, however, was commenced only on 21 July after Protection Officer Manca de Nissa had arrived in Tuzla. He submitted his report a week later, based on 70 interviews with both normal Displaced Persons and survivors of the march. Manca de Nissa did not however draw any conclusions about possible large-scale murders.[3]
(And there you have it. The only “serious research” strictly opposes any idea of “massacre”. That is truly what The Report was finding as it looked back and examined closely the evidence from the interviews in these few weeks after the “event”)
(So by about the 28th July, according to that, de Nissa had interviewed an awful lot of the Muslims in Tuzla, and not one mention of massacre)
[start quote here]
It was much more difficult for an organization such as the International Red Cross to publicize findings. The strictly observed neutrality ruled out any statements that could be given a political slant.
(Which raises the question what other way is there to carry out investigations. That they mention it like this shows how they disapprove of what was taking place under the name of “journalism”)
Another factor in this case was that the delegates were only too familiar with the Bosnian propaganda (this is the Islamist leadership of Izetbegovic who dates back to Himmler and El Husseini in the Holocaust) and thus usually regarded the rumours issuing from Tuzla with great suspicion.
(They are not beating around the bush here. The report is saying that the Red Cross is aware of the dishonesty of the Islamists)
In a communiqué on 14 July, three days after the fall of the enclave, nothing was said about missing persons or possible summary executions. Nevertheless, staff of the International Red Cross had already gathered much information by this time. Although the International Red Cross had no official access to the men who arrived in Tuzla from 16 July onwards, staff had in fact spoken to several of them. A communiqué of 19 July however mentioned only that the International Red Cross demanded of the Bosnian Serbs that it be given access to prisoners. Still no mention was made of deaths.
(So after much investigation by 19 July not a word about deaths. Why not? Because there was no unbiased evidence that there were deaths, meaning massacres)
But according to Christoph Girod of the International Red Cross the pressure was increasing.[4] Consequently, at a press conference on 31 July, Girod referred to the fact that there were 5000 to 6000 missing persons with the statement: ‘We have no indications of this whatsoever’.
(They, that is The Report writers, are flagging the pressure from the lies of the Media.)
It was only on 14 August that the International Red Cross first dared to publicly mention the possibility of executions.[5]
(Note the “possibility” of executions. Who is arguing! But possibility is very far from fact! Surely!)
[end quote here]
Then the conflict between the Red Cross and the UN groups from Croatia. The real reason is not given here.
There is the mention that Tizer was (had been previously) refused permission to visit Srebrenica. That is Tizer from the Croatian base. Why did the Serbs do this? Real reason is that Tizer and this whole mob from Croatia’s Zagreb were suspected by the Serbs as being CIA. In investigating Roy Gutman, the journalist who wrote those false stories for the New York Times, the same issue came up. These are also the days when the US cum CIA are beginning (or more accurately finessing) their cooperation with the Fascist ethnic cleansing of the Krajina, the biggest single such act since the last world war!
But this report in very short measure lays bare the whole truthful mechanism of where this Srebrenica Hoax story was constructed step by step.
Armed as we are with that evidence that Clinton and Izetbegovic hatched the idea of a Massacre of 5000 Muslims by the Serbs in taking Srebrenica long before…we can see this being put in place in these two devastating paragraphs. Sure there are plenty more details to come but essentially it is all here.
As we mentioned above the investigator Salvisberg features highly and i think positively, in the sense of honestly
Salvisberg’s team initially took a random approach, with evaluations taking place each day, after which the work became more systematic. The investigators chose a gentle, passive approach. They asked who wanted to talk to them, and then interviewed these people.
According to Salvisberg they were not after ‘sexy stories like the ones in the press’.[10] A total of five women came forward who said they had been raped. In general the stories of those who had been transported away in buses were relatively ‘uneventful’. They had experienced few incidents. A picture gradually emerged, but the main question was whether the reported executions were isolated incidents or indications of a widespread phenomenon. It was also very difficult to gain a picture of the number who had been executed, but things certainly gave cause for concern, according to the investigator Peggy Hicks of the Human Rights Office of Civil Affairs in Zagreb.[11]
After about a week the investigators of the two UN organizations noticed that their respondents had been told what to say; they suspected that these instructions came from the Bosnian authorities. The gist of these prompted stories was that the Serbs and the UN (not specifically the Dutch) had been the bad guys, who had ‘sold out’ the people of the enclave. At this time Salvisberg had not yet heard any criticism of the actions of the people’s own Muslim soldiers. It was to be some days before the first stories emerged which also assigned blame to the Bosnian government.[12]
Do I have to comment on that? I do not think so! Their problem was that they were talking to people who had been told what to say. If that is not the framework for creating a massacre myth I do not know what is. The coaching that was going on in Tuzla by what was essenmtially The Muslim Brotherhood, being aided and abetted by “The West” was colossal! Will return to this. Seems the central point.
THE VISIT TO THE MUSLIM SOLDIERS WHO HAD ESCAPED FROM SREBRENICA
After a few days the team of investigators started looking for men who had entered the Safe Areas following the march. They visited a camp full of soldiers outside Tuzla. This proved a difficult affair: the authority of T. Mazowiecki, the Special Rapporteur for Human Rights who arrived in Tuzla on 22 July, was required to facilitate this visit. This solved only part of the problem: the interviewers were not permitted to approach people themselves but were ‘accompanied’ by the Muslim authorities. ‘They were presented to us’, reported the investigator Hicks. This was supposedly to save the investigators’ time. ‘It made me feel very uneasy’, said Hicks later[13]
Other investigators shared her experience. According to R. (Roman) Wieruszewski of the UNCHR office in Sarajevo, one of the consequences of this ‘accompaniment’ was that everyone with whom he and his colleagues spoke claimed that he had been unarmed. In later interviews conducted independently of the authorities the interviewees generally declared that of course they had carried weapons, otherwise they would not have survived the march.[14] Sometimes it was women who said that of course the soldiers had been armed. Salvisberg recounted: ‘They even laughed at us when we asked about this.’ He and the other researchers calculated that of the Muslim men, about one-third had been armed and about two-thirds had been unarmed. They gained the impression that there had been an element of organization in the distribution of the available weapons: ‘You get one, you don’t’, which according to them led to conflicts. Other Displaced Persons reported fights between the Muslim soldiers. There were also reports that Bosnian Muslims had executed Serbs.
The impression gained by the research team was that the soldiers had several prepared standard stories, such as a mass murder of 25 people conducted by the Bosnian Serbs, in which the respondent kept under cover or pretended to be dead.
‘We heard this story ten times or so’, said Salvisberg.[15]
Although the reconstruction of the march presented problems, the biggest problem proved to be establishing what had happened to the group in Srebrenica and Potocari.[16]
Again comment by me on the above would be superfluous. but we return again to this investigator lady called Hicks
In the first report sent by Hicks on 21 July, she nonetheless concluded that there was sufficient basis ‘to believe that significant human rights violations occurred both before and during the transport from Srebrenica’.[17] Much remained unclear, however.
In the final report finished by Hicks on 31 July, the issue of numbers remained open. She could do nothing else than to conclude that further investigations were required.[18]
It was only in October 1995, following new revelations in the press, that even she realized what the probable scale of the murder had been.[19]
That is amazing. But I do find the way that the Report reports on this woman Hicks to be totally revealing, and the more we go along, alarming
First report by Hicks on 21 July Hicks is saying that she thinks there have been human rights abuses…she is of course looking for Serb soldiers murdering Muslims, which is what she is all about
She thinks! That is all she can say.
By her second report on 31 July she says she knows nothing, basically. Cannot put a number down. Needs further investigations etc..
This is after hundreds and hundreds of interviews with the civilians in Tuzla bussed from Srebrenica, conducted by her and colleagues in those vital fresh after the event couple of weeks.
It was only in October, and following the Media stories, that she began to talk numbers. So that was about 3 months, and she had had full access to all those Muslim participants in Srebrenica. In Tuzla.
Let us look at a few additional and very interesting things in the above
The Muslims of Izetbegovic were promoting the Massacre story following the blueprint (we deal with this separately…it is amazing) laid down by Clinton and Izetbegovic that the Serbs must “do” a massacre of at least 5000 (!) (New World Order wants, New World Order gets!) in order to sway American opinion for the US to bomb the Bosnian Serbs. So if there was a massacre by the Serbs of Muslims, then hell open up and show the world!
1. In that case would you not expect free access
2. So why were the Islamist watchers always watching over what the soldiers said
3. The Muslim leaders never allowed free access to the investigators…those to be questioned were always presented and in controlled conditions. The thought (as the Muslim leaders claimed) that they were doing this to help the investigators, make thing flow more smoothly, is a good example of Takkiya (Islamist lies or Islamic deception permitted in the cause)
HICKS ACTING RATHER STRANGELY (AGAIN)
Let us look at the evidence coming out about a massacre and executions and how Hicks reacted rather strangely
1. ‘They were presented to us’, reported the investigator Hicks. This was supposedly to save the investigators’ time. ‘It made me feel very uneasy’, said Hicks later.
2. Anything else making her uneasy? Well, just this little detail might make any investigator feel uneasy: “The impression gained by the research team was that the soldiers had several prepared standard stories, such as a mass murder of 25 people conducted by the Bosnian Serbs, in which the respondent kept under cover or pretended to be dead. ‘We heard this story ten times or so’, said Salvisberg”.
3. Meaning according to them at least on 10 different times, maybe more, 10 different Muslim soldiers reported that a batch of 25 were shot, and each time the character (lucky devil) crawled out when the coast was clear and made his way to Tuzla to tell his story, and his, and his, and his etc etc. The response of any sane investigator to this might be “What a f…ing concoction”
4. Yet Hicks as I have pointed out does not write up any of this when she comes to report but she joins in the Islamist lie machine: In the first report sent by Hicks on 21 July, she nonetheless concluded that there was sufficient basis ‘to believe that significant human rights violations occurred both before and during the transport from Srebrenica’. BUT INSIDE A WEEK OR SO HAD PULLED BACK FROM THAT ASSERTION. SHE HAD NO EVIDENCE FROM ALL THOSE INTERVIEWS.
THE SPECIAL REPORTEUR FOR HUMAN RIGHTS MAZOWIECKI
This fairly caught my eye but like much else in this Dutch report it is mentioned in passing and there is no examination of the implications.
So consider again the following:
“After a few days the team of investigators started looking for men who had entered the Safe Areas following the march. They visited a camp full of soldiers outside Tuzla. This proved a difficult affair: the authority of T. Mazowiecki, the Special Rapporteur for Human Rights who arrived in Tuzla on 22 July, was required to facilitate this visit.”
I remember a pop song of about 20 years ago. It was about a guy who was “living next door to Alice” for about 20 years and all about his angst. Anyway it was re-cut and interposed at regular intervals with a comical scream “Who the F…k is Alice!”
And here I felt like screaming “Who the f..k is T. Mazowieki”.
Because…
This Special Rapporteur for Human Rights was the only one who could get the investigators in to talk to the Muslim Jihadist and close to Nasir Oric soldiers from Srebrenica.
The report tells us nothing. Does not even raise an eyebrow at this but it cries out for an explanation.
I would want to know everything about this “Human Rights” guy, and as somebody with obvious sway with the Izetbegovic crowd, what on earth was he doing investigating the Serbs committing war crimes!
THE STRANGE COLLISION OF VIEWS BETWEEN PERUVIAN UN TOP GUY AND MAZOWIECKI
So it appears that Mazowiecki had something that no other investigator had. He had the magical ability (what a man!) to gain entrance for the investigating group into the Muslim soldier’s camp. There the investigators could talk to the soldiers if the soldiers had somebody from the Muslim side (Islamist leadership) watching.
After that then why am I not so very surprised at all that this then happened
After a few days the team of investigators started looking for men who had entered the Safe Areas following the march. They visited a camp full of soldiers outside Tuzla. This proved a difficult affair: the authority of T. Mazowiecki, the Special Rapporteur for Human Rights who arrived in Tuzla on 22 July, was required to facilitate this visit.
Followed by these conflicting reports:
Typical of the problems in defining the events shortly after the fall were the statements made by two high-ranking UN officials in Tuzla. The Peruvian diplomat H. Wieland, the highest official of the UN Centre for Human Rights in the region, said on 23 July that ‘we have not found anyone who saw with their own eyes an atrocity taking place’.[20] On the same day, however, the Special Rapporteur for human rights, Tadeus Mazowiecki, also declared in Tuzla that ‘barbaric’ acts had taken place
Either one of these two is lying. Which do you believe? Do you believe the UN guy from Peru? Or do you believe the Human Rights guy who has a special relationship with Islamofascist Izetbegovic?
No. please don’t answer! I am just teasing!
Even to a 9 year old it is a no brainer! The “Special Reporteur of Human Rights, Tadeus Mazowiecki, smelled to high heaven and was working on an agenda, I would say from the evidence along with Hicks, that did not have truth as a priority.
And there you have the quandary that the Serbs were in. No matter the evidence, or total lack of evidence, the Hicks and Mazowieckis of this world were going to knife them anyway.
THE ROLE OF THE BRITISH AND THE OTHER MEDIA
Hicks and Mazowiecki were obviously working to a script. But let us not overlook the role of the mass media.
We will deal with this separately since it is so huge. But let me just say that in recent days (I was writing in 2008) I have went through the past files of the Irish newspaper of record, the Irish Times. There are many hundreds of major articles on the Irish Times, all paid for by The Irish Times. All support the thesis, and there are no exceptions to this, that the Serbs massacred 8000 men and boys on taking the town. They are as crude as that. There are no exceptions and not one doubt or question raised. Peter Maher has done much more work than i was capable of on this very issue…the DELAY…
Swiss investigator R Salvisberg referred to precisely this same issue of journalist lies in the report:
REPORT HINDERED BY MEDIA
[begin quote here]
There were other problems too. The investigation was considerably hindered by the journalists present. Anyone could walk in and out of the relief camps. According to the Swiss investigator R. Salvisberg, UNCHR Bosnia coordinator based in Sarajevo, the journalists encouraged the Displaced Persons to say what they wanted to hear. In his eyes the media were engaged in ‘a sensational hunt’ for the worst crime, and this would then be published in the papers. As a result Salvisberg and his colleagues were constantly working in the wake of newspaper headlines and television sound-bites (however strange it sounds, televisions were soon present in the camp too).[8] The investigators noticed in the process that the journalists were strongly focused on Dutchbat. This possible distortion made it difficult to discern what the Displaced Persons had experienced themselves and what they were repeating from other sources.
[end quote here]
The situation in this camp of those Muslims who had been bussed by the Serbs from Srebrenica to Tuzla, which was a safe area for the Muslims controlled by the Muslim Government. This was a Civil War situation and far from creating a massacre the Serbs were being kind and looking after “civilians”.
It soon became clear that these “civilians” were part of the war on the Serbs, part of the Jihad against the Serbs and the Orthodox religion. This is not surprising if you remove the lies. From precisely this area of Srebrenica Nasir Oric had ruled supreme and was hailed as a hero by precisely these “civilians”.
From this base Nasir Oric organized the murder of 3800 ordinary Serb peasant men women and children in the years from 1992 to 1995 and this must indeed have been common knowledge in such a confined and confessional area as was Islamist Srebrenica.
I have no doubt that when General Mladic arrived with buses and safe transport these “civilians” were mightily relieved.
Once ensconced in Tuzla they began to pay back this Serb kindness and sense of following Geneva Rules by teaming up with the Media and promoting the worst slanders against the Serbs as a people. I am not saying every Muslim civilian did this but a goodly number must have.
Swiss man Salvisberg who was present and in close touch as an investigator with what was happening was very aware of these lies being promoted by the Media and by these “civilians”. I place in parenthesis because it is obvious that the division between civilian and soldier in modern war is much overestimated.
He refers to as: “‘a sensational hunt’ for the worst crime, and this would then be published in the papers. As a result Salvisberg and his colleagues were constantly working in the wake of newspaper headlines and television sound-bites (however strange it sounds, televisions were soon present in the camp too”.
This was a shark feeding frenzy and the victim in this case was all things Serb.
In fact to use the shark analogy does a disservice to sharks which kill only to live as part of nature.
MOVING ON TO THE DUTCH RULING ELITE AND WHAT THEY DID TO THE SERBS
The material in the report dealing with Dutch ruling class bourgeois politicians like Plonk is a real eye-opener.
It is dealt with in extreme detail in the report. Let me put it simply.
These EU type politicians like Plonk were filled with hatred against Milosevic and the Serbs. For much the same reason that they are filled with hatred against the Jews of Israel.
It concerns nation. Every one of these EU political classes has sold out their national rights for economic gain, to be part of the reactionary EU cartel, which discriminates against the poor of Adrica, Asia and China. It discriminates also against the US but as a giant power it is able to look after its own interests.
They hate the Serbs and the Jews for various reasons, communism, orthodoxy, Judaism, but the deeper reason concerns nationality. The Serbs and the Jews of Israel are not about to surrender their nationality no matter what monetary temptations are brandished. True they have their quislings, but the battle on that front is not yet played out.
Please read carefully all of the report re a Dutch politician called Plonk and his associate bourgeois EU political types. You will notice that when Plonk visited the area he made a bee line for the Muslims from Srebrenica and he talked only with them, and with other EU types hanging around Srebrenica. Plonk was a dhimmi and was entering into a relationship precisely with Islam.
Note that on his visit to Tuzla that Plonk never did talk to his own countrymen in the UN force. Now is that not indeed remarkable. For an unbiased account of what happened in Srebrenica would you not think that would be the first port of call?
But the Dutch UN soldiers were always singing from a different hymn sheet than Plonk. They were saying that there was something very dubious about the way that the Islamist army operated. Questions like “Why did they clear out and surrender without a fight”
And then stories about “massacre appeared. The soldiers had seen nothing of this.
This contradicts totally the US, EU and Islamist line. But if Plonk on the other hand had travelled across to Yugoslavia in order to pin a war crime on the Serbs, for whatever reason, then it becomes a little more understandable.
If it was war crime against the Serbs Plonk was after then the very last people he would speak to would be his own soldiers, his own countrymen. After all they were unbiased.
It seems reasonable then to conclude that Plonk wished to evade talking to his own Dutch soldiers at all costs. Looking for the war crime against the Serbs he made a beeline to that Media shark feeding frenzy in the Muslim camp (Once again apologies to sharks)
Was he doing this for ambition and self-interest? We are talking about a particularly low form of animal life here. Blair and Bush lie to the world to make war in Iraq. Milliband at the first opportunity stabs Brown in the back in order to attain the stinking job of British PM. Let us not be too severe on Plonk. Pity perhaps is more in order.
But Plonk and his colleague Voerhoeve (who also comes into the picture as the Dutch Report saw it) did go across to do a job on the Serbs and up to now succeeded because the Srebrenica Hoax took off like the proverbial rocket.
The Report draws this all out admirably and only somebody really blind could not spot it.
Consider the wealth of detail in the following when Voerhoeve visited England with Srebrenica on his mind:
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On 21 July he had attended the international Bosnia Conference in London. He had an informal meeting with General Smith, who informed him confidentially that he feared the worst for the men still missing, even if hard proof was still lacking: ‘He was the first from the military sector who told me informally, “I think they’ve murdered two to three thousand men.” I don’t know how he knew it, but he also said, “I don’t have any hard facts, but things aren’t right. There are too many men missing.” That was on 21 July. He also said, “I don’t precisely know why I’m saying this, but it’s my feeling, intuition”.’[26] Strengthened by this information and the knowledge that Dutchbat had now left the Republika Srpska, Voerhoeve then issued strong accusations directed at the Bosnian Serbs: ‘Genocide means murder of a group, and that is what the Bosnian Serbs are doing’.[27] In the NOS television news of that evening he explained his words further:
‘We now no longer have any constraints on the things we can say. We know that very serious things have happened in Srebrenica. We don’t have the full picture yet, but I fear that hundreds if not thousands have died. There’s no longer any need to keep our voices down. We know that very serious things have happened and we also want them fully investigated on behalf of the Tribunal that is to investigate war crimes. I believe that serious war crimes have indeed taken place.’[28]
The reactions of some Dutchbat personnel to these statements were so fierce that a rather nonplussed Voerhoeve had to back-pedal
Etc etc
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So we note
1. Always the Brits. Always the perfidy of Albion raises its stinking carcass in every world situation. Smith has no evidence. This Dutch political assassin Voerhoeve knows that Smith has no evidence but such is their hatred of the Serbs they concoct a story anyway
2. And the guts of this evidence that Smith gave to idiot Voerhoeve ran along the lines of “I don’t know how he knew it, but he also said, “I don’t have any hard facts, but things aren’t right”
And of course it was without any hard soft or in between kind of facts that the whole Srebrenica Massacre hoax was raised.
It makes me wonder are we really talking here about a Massacre or are we talking about something rather different. Is it not the complete breakdown of human law and human values that is at stake in this discussion. A move towards Fascist forms of rule such as was experienced as the Nazis took power. It is not a repeat. History never repeats itself precisely.
But it is clear that Smith has no evidence (he says so), Plonk had no unbiased evidence (as we have showed), Voerhoeve has no evidence (he also says so and states that Smith tells him clearly that he has no evidence)
In other words NOBODY HAD A SCRAP OF EVIDENCE SHOWING THAT THE SERBS MURDERED A SINGLE MUSLIN IN SREBRENICA
And yet this Hoax story took off to such an extent that in hundreds and hundreds of major articles in the Irish newspaper of Record “The Irish Times” since 1995 not one does other than accept totally the Srebrenica Massacre story.
Surely must be a new low for the human race
CONCLUSIONS
The points made by Peter Mayer about the delay in this whole story of a “massacre” is the strangest thing of all.
I believe that it took time to put together the “evidence” for the massacre, and that the World Media which had/has a visceral hatred for the Serb people had a big hand in the manufacture of these stories
This famous Dutch Report was written by reserved and super respectable people, good bourgeois gentlemen as Engels would have called them
But their evidence in this Report is very revealing
It is also very revealing that this Report has been attacked more and more as the evidence that there was a massacre by the Serbs becomes ever more questioned
Out of it all i draw forward two facts. First is the delay, second is the nature of the pounding which the people of the world have received from the Media over this (false) story
We live in very peculiar times, when technology has allowed the creation of a lie on a gigantic scale.
But not everybody has been taken in by the Lie. I think that 4international has got a proud heritage in that regard. We will always stand witht he Jews and Serbs against Lies.
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