ONLY ANTISEMITES TALK ABOUT ISRAELI POWER, THE ISRAELI LOBBY OR THE JEWISH LOBBY

 

Column: Of course there is a pro-Israel lobby – but there is an anti-Israel lobby too

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US President Barack Obama speaking to the UN last week

US President Barack Obama speaking to the UN last week
Image: AP Photo/Richard Drew

(STATEMENT BY THE ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO IRELAND, BOAZ MODI)

WHEN LAST WEDNESDAY, in his speech to the UN General Assembly, President Obama expressed US opposition to a Palestinian state being created unilaterally, arguing instead that it should be created after peace talks with Israel finally resolve the Israeli-Palestinian  conflict, there was much incredulity, even outrage in much of Europe, including in Ireland.

In the Irish Times, columnist Lara Marlowe said bluntly that Obama’s policy was solely because of pressure from Jewish and other pro-Israeli elements within the United States (collectively called ‘the Lobby’).

Such a response, if a little tired and predictable, was perhaps inevitable. For sure, there is a Jewish lobby in the United States, but there are many others too, not least the Irish lobby which for a century was a dominant presence in the Democratic Party and was particularly useful in the Northern Ireland Peace Process. Few people, however, talk about probably the most powerful foreign lobby of all that operates in the United States – the Saudi, or more generally, ‘Arab’ lobby – with its petro-wealth, its huge investment in the US economy, and its steady supply of petroleum to the American consumer and capitalist alike.

Israel is the latest target of the ‘Jewish world power’ fantasists and has been for the last 63 years. The facts, however, dispel any notion of Jewish mastery of the levers of world power. The Zionist movement pressed for a Jewish homeland for six decades before World War II – with precious little success, facing at best patronising contempt, at worst outright hatred, from the international community. True, in the immediate wake of the Holocaust, and facing armed Jewish resistance against British rule, the UN did belatedly create Israel in 1947 with Resolution 181. But after that, a great many countries around the world were hostile to Israel or at best indifferent.

The United States was markedly cool on Israel for decades

The biggest canard is the ‘special relationship’ between Israel and the United States. In fact, the United States was markedly cool on Israel for decades. It only recognised Israel at all in 1948 thanks to the personal commitment of President Truman. In 1967, just before the Six-Day War, with Israel imminently facing a coordinated offensive by Egypt, Syria and Jordan, the US government advised Israel not to do anything.

The truth is, the US-Israeli ‘special relationship’ is a fairly recent creature, since the 1970s, and even then the US had a much broader geopolitical agenda than simply supporting little Israel which has been economically insignificant to US interests.

As for Europe, the relationship with Israel is very mixed. As for the Third World’s attitude to Israel, it is generally negative.

The truth is, far from ‘the Lobby’ having a magic hold over the Earth, the biggest lobby in the world is the anti-Israel movement, which takes many forms. Most problematic is the UN itself which, unfortunately, many people in Ireland naively see as the holy embodiment of world virtue. There are 57 Muslim states, only two of which – Egypt and Jordan – even recognise Israel’s right to exist.

Since the 1970s there has been the ‘Arab-African’ bloc whereby in return for Arab support against then apartheid South Africa the black African countries would support the Arab agenda against Israel. That relationship is still ongoing, fuelled by the power of the Arab ‘petro’ lobby. Some Latin American and non-Muslim Asian countries have also signed up to the anti-Israel Lobby – out of Third World loyalty, selfish interest, or economic dependence on the ‘petro’ lobby.

There is an automatic anti-Israel agenda in the UN

In short, for the past generation, there is an automatic anti-Israel agenda in the UN. Any resolution condemning Israel is automatically assured of a majority. For 50 years Israel was excluded from all of the five regional groups in the UN. Since its creation in 2006 the ‘Human Rights Council’ has passed more resolutions condemning Israel than all other countries in the world put together. Past members of the Human Rights Council have included such sure champions of liberal democracy as Gaddafy’s Libya, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia!

As for the Security Council, its chair this month is Lebanon, a country now de facto controlled by Hizbullah – the most powerful terrorist organisation in the world with over 40,000 long range rockets aiming to target Israeli civilians.

Nor does this take into account the worldwide activism against Israel, in Muslim countries, Europe and increasingly even in the United States, a campaign that is well-organised, militant, ceaseless and well-funded. Israel is demonised in media, universities, trade unions, international conferences, artist groups, and subject to boycott campaigns, propaganda and even hysteria (most recently, the Israeli Philharmonic was disrupted in London by activists, presumably because Israeli music is ‘evil music’).

Trade unions boycott Israel – the only country in the Middle East with a free labour movement. Self-styled ‘liberals’ hate Israel – the only country in the Middle East with freedom of press and speech. ‘Gender activists’ have joined the fashionable bandwagon against Israel even though Israel is the only country in the Middle East with freedom of sexual orientation. I wonder who, or what, is behind and funds this global madness against a country the size of Leinster.

I wonder how much the enemies of Israel are sponsored by Arab oil money, and also how much Islamic terrorism is a factor that scares people and countries around the world into standing against Israel, even if it often means standing  in favour of Middle East dictatorships instead.

Sometimes I am asked; “How do Israelis feel being so isolated in the world?” I reply that things are better now than in the past; at least we can be fairly sure of America’s support. Seventy years ago the Jewish people had no one to help them and we know what happened.

Boaz Modai, Ambassador of Israel

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/column-of-course-there-is-a-pro-israel-lobby-but-there-is-an-anti-israel-lobby-too/

THE ARABS IN 1949 USED JEWISH TOMBSTONES AS PAVEMENT SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN HOLOCAUST DENIER ABBAS’S PALESTINE STATE?

Tombstones Used As Pavement

(1967)


Tombstones used as pavement in the Azaria Arab Legion camp on the Jerusaelm-Jericho road

 

 

Testimonies of Jordanians

 

Am I My Brother’s Keeper?

 


 

The questions and answers recorded here are taken from the testimony gathered by the Inter-Ministerial Commission for the Examination of the Desecration of the Burial Grounds on the Mount of Olives and at Hebron, appointed on July 21, 1967, by the Israel Minister of Religious Affairs , in conjunction with the Chief Rabbis, the Minister of Justice and the Director-General of the Foreign Ministry.

 

Mohammed Sayad, then about 60, of Abu-Tor, had been the watchman for the “Congregation of Jerusalem” burial society.
Q: Just how did you perform your duties as watchman?
A: What could I do? If I had spoken out against the government, they would have shot me on the spot…I was ready to do my job as watchman. And I want the burial society that hired me to pay me now what they owe me for all these years. It’s not my fault that the (Jordanian) Government decided to destroy the cemetery…

 

Khalil Ibn Sadar Khalil, then 33, is the son of Sadar Khalil, who had served on behalf of the Jordanian Government as caretaker of the Mount of Olives cemetery, At the outbreak of hostilities in June, 1967, Sadar Khalil fled to Amman.
Q: What was your father’s job?
A: He was supposed to see to it that private individuals did not take out tombstones or other stones without a permit from the Government. There were several merchants who held concessions that allowed them to trade in stones from the cemetery. All the rest we would chase away…
Q: Who paid your father’s salary?
A: The City did. Mayor Anwar el-Khatib sent the cheques.
Q: How were the graves mutilated?
A: Workmen came during the day and pulled apart the stones and the tombstones and at night the army lorries came, loaded up the tombstones and drove off. The rest of the stones were taken by the merchants.

 

Ali Mohammed Ali, then 25, part-owner of a filling station on the Jerusalem-Jericho highway, widened by the Jordanian authorities at the expense of the Mount of Olives cemetery.
Q: Did you know about the defacement and destruction of graves?
A: Everybody know. Anyone who needed building stones used to go to these merchants and buy stones from Jewish graves…

 

Mohammed Ahmed el-Khak, who claimed to be 111 years old, referred to himself as a “municipal gardener.”
Q: Did you see how they ravaged the graves?
A: Yes I saw. All the people around here knew about it, but I didn’t know it was forbidden. According to the Koran, a cemetery in which there haven’t been any burials for fifteen years may be destroyed.
Q: When did they begin with this destruction here?
A: Oh, a long time ago-maybe in 1949 already…

 

 

CONCLUSION

 

When Mohammed Ahmed el-Khak was asked when did the destruction of the Jewish graveyard begin he quite spontaneously replies that it began “maybe in 1949 already”!!!

Other Arabs questioned above are clear that everybody knew. It was quite casual. There was nothing to hide! the most normal thing it seems in the world!

 

If an Arab in Jerusalem wanted some stones for building they went to the Jewish graveyard

The barbarism involved (Pamela Geller calls this mentality “savage”) is shown above all in the casual remark by the Arab above

“A: Yes I saw. All the people around here knew about it, but I didn’t know it was forbidden. According to the Koran, a cemetery in which there haven’t been any burials for fifteen years may be destroyed.”

You notice! How sensitive to other people’s religions! The vicious and insular world that is Islam! No other religion or culture really counts!

 

BUT HOW COMPREHENSIVELY THE “PALESTINIAN PEOPLE” MYTH HAS BEEN SOLD.

 

Last Monday I rang a Spanish English speaking radio station and claimed that Abbas, the Palestinian Arab Ambassadors to Lebanon and to the US, had all stated that the future “Palestine” would be Judenfrei. That is no Jews allowed to live there.

the panel of 3 which included a Jewish man living in Spain all immediately stated that that could not be true, and that these Arab Palestinian leaders must have meant “settlements”

{Leave aside that the Jewish man on the panel had claimed that he was opposed to the Jews “settling” in what he regarded as “Palestinian Arab land”, that is for a start, but that it could not be possible that Arabs would want no Jews living in their Palestine. this Jewish man could not conceive that. This Jewish man is not a young man. What has he spent his life doing? Such crass ignorance!}

 

Problem is people in general outside a narrow circle do not have a clue about the history

Stones in the Jewish Graveyard not yet taken but knocked over ready 

 

Many other images in http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/destoc.html

 

 

ISRAEL AND JEWS ARE AT WAR AND MUST HAVE A LEADERSHIP OF STRUGGLE OR HOLOCAUST WILL ENSUE

Stephen Lendman is full of hatred for Israel. He is a member of the phony left which has swallowed the Arab lies and who bases his politics on the lying narrative of the Palestinian Arabs. There is no doubt about this, but sadly the Palestinian Arab narrative is what holds sway in the world today, because ours is an epoch of lies.

 

It is noticeable that Lendman operates the same big lie technique of Hitler. Often as you see when he deals with MK Danon he simply repeats the position of Danon. Places the position of Danon down on paper, in his article, as if it did not need to be replied to.

 

Lendman is representative of this phony left, which has swallowed the lies of the Palestinian Arab narrative. In its essence it is a denial of the Holocaust, it is Holocaust Denial. remember Abbas gained his doctorate in a thesis which denied the Holocaust, and the roots of the Arab palestinians are in the Holocaust of Hajj Amin el Husseini.

 

File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-N0827-318, KZ Auschwitz, Ankunft ungarischer Juden.jpg

 

 

In any case Lendman has written:

Thursday, September 29, 2011

Israeli West Bank Annexation Bill

Israeli West Bank Annexation Bill – by Stephen Lendman

 

Palestinians petitioned the UN for sovereign recognition and full UN membership.

 

Four extremist MKs responded, calling for West Bank settlements annexed. A previous article explained, accessed through the following link:

 

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2011/09/calls-to-annex-west-bank-settlements.html

 

MK Deputy Speaker Danny Danon wants more.

 

On September 27, the JTA Global News Service of the Jewish People headlined, “Knesset to vote on annexing the West Bank,” saying:

 

On September 27, Danon said the Knesset will “take up the bill, which he authored, at the end of October.”

 

It includes rescinding Israeli/PA financial obligations established by prior agreements. According to Danon:

 

“If the Palestinian Authority wishes to proceed on this reckless path and bring further instability to the region, Israel cannot continue to pour funds into this sinking ship of failed leadership.”

 

“The funding agreements with the PA were reached with the hope that their leaders would work to create an environment of lasting peace and security with Israel. Given that it is clear that the Palestinians have no such desire, Israel must no longer be required to stand by these arrangements.”

 

Palestinians, of course, want and deserve what Israel denied them for 63 years after stealing their homeland violently. Using long ago discredited arguments, Danon and others like him think Israel has a divine right to their land.

 

Growing millions globally disagree, including Israeli Jews and others everywhere able to distinguished (sic) between right and wrong.

 

Danon said his bill nullifies Oslo, stating:

 

“All obligations between the State of Israel and the Palestinian Authority as established by international agreements….will be considered null and void.”

 

Oslo, of course, was a Palestinian Versailles, benefitting Israel, not them. Sovereign recognition and full UN membership are first steps to reversing unilateral surrender.

 

Representative Joe Walsh (R. IL) is as hardline as Danon. On September 8, he introduced HR 394:

 

“Supporting Israel’s right to annex Judea and Samaria (the West Bank and Jerusalem) in the event that the Palestinian Authority continues to press for unilateral recognition of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations.”

 

He didn’t address if that would make them Israeli citizens, subhuman serfs to be exploited, or illegal infiltrators on Israeli land, subject to arbitrary expulsion.

 

Nor did consider what right he, others in Washington, or outsiders anywhere have to meddle in internal Palestinian affairs. America, of course, long ago refined it to an art form, attested to by mass global deaths, destruction and human misery.

 

Walsh also introduced HR 2457: Palestinian Accountability Act:

 

“To restrict funds for the Palestinian Authority, and for other purposes.”

 

In other words, obey or we’ll cut off your allowance. Coming with strings, it’s less aid than bondage to do what we say or we’ll spank you with more than harsh words.

 

On September 27, Turkish Prime Minister proposed a different solution than Walsh and hardline MKs. On September 27, Haaretz headlined, “Erdogan: UN sanctions on Israel could aid Mideast peace process,” saying:

 

Sanctions “would have resolved the issue of Mideast peace long ago….adding that he felt the Quartet(‘s)” proposal fell far short of resolving the longstanding Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

 

Through today, he said, “the UN Security Council has issued more than 89 resolutions on prospective sanctions related to Israel, but they’ve never been executed….One might” ask why?

 

“When it’s Iran in question, you impose sanctions. Similarly with Sudan. What happens with Israel then.”

 

If sanctioned, the “conflict would have been resolved long ago.” As a result, he believes the Quartet has no interest in resolution. “Unfortunately, I do not even see (its) traces within the Quartet. Because if (it) was so willing to resolve this issue, (it) would have imposed certain issues on Israel today.”

 

Of course, strained Turkey/Israeli relations place both countries on opposite sides of various issues, including Palestinian statehood.

 

Despite the Quartet’s anti-Palestinian UN membership proposal, Haaretz headlined, “Israel’s cabinet fails to reach consensus on Quartet plan for talks with Palestinians,” saying:

 

Netanyahu “and the eight senior cabinet members were unable to (agree on) the Quartet’s initiative for renewed talks between Israel and the Palestinians.”

 

Despite Netanyahu’s support, consensus so far isn’t reached. Meanwhile, Security Council deliberations continue on and off behind closed doors.

 

Reports disagree on whether Palestinians have nine needed votes to force a US veto. Haaretz said UN sources say Washington has enough support to avoid a it (sic).

 

EU representatives acted like Joe Walsh to a degree, telling PA officials they risk losing European aid by acting “unilaterally.”

 

On September 28, Haaretz headlined, “Palestinian statehood bid to be reviewed by UN committee,” saying:

 

On Wednesday, the Security Council “unanimously agreed to hand the Palestinian application to join the United Nations to a committee” for review.

 

Normally, it takes “a maximum of 35 days, but Western diplomats say that this limit can be waived and might take much longer….”

 

In other words, delay, obstruct, and consign Palestinian membership to memory hole oblivion. It’s simple to get around it through the General Assembly, whether or not the Security Council provides support.

 

It recommends. The General Assembly alone admits new members provided Abbas goes that route properly.

 

A Final Comment

 

{At this point Lendman goes into his false narrative, a false narrative that is essentially a continuation of the Nazi Holocaust of the Jews, and is preparing the ground for a new Holocaust of the Jews}

 

{I warn my readers that it is quite impossible to answer lendman point by point in such articles as this. The whole of the Palestinian Arab narrative is based on forms of Nazi Goebbels type lies. It has to be answered in a different way}

 

 

Palestinians have always been on their own since Britain’s 1917 Balfour Declaration, promising a Jewish homeland in Palestine. It included a hollow one to indigenous Palestinians that “nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities.”

 

During its Mandate period, they were systematically denied until losing them in 1948, then entirely in 1967. Israel was born in the original sin of mass slaughter and forced expulsion of 800,000 Palestinians, wanting only to live in peace on their own land.

 

With full backing from Washington and Western states, Palestinians never got justice. Israel operates outside the law with impunity. Peace process conflict resolution never existed and doesn’t now.

 

Palestinians understand and want official sovereign recognition and full UN membership. In 1987, Law Professor Francis Boyle drafted its 1988 Declaration of Independence.

 

Through the 1950 Uniting for Peace Resolution 377, full UN membership is obtainable if Abbas and Prime Minister Fayyad want it. A simple two-thirds General Assembly majority gets it.

 

On the Progressive Radio News Hour to air October 2, Boyle said the 170 nations support it, according to the Financial Times. If all 193 UN members vote, 129 are needed.

 

According to Boyle, if Abbas petitions the General Assembly under Resolution 377, full UN membership can be gotten in two weeks, making Palestine the body’s 194th member.

 

Despite enormous Washington/Israeli pressure to back down, what Palestinians have wanted for 63 years is within easy reach. It’s for Abbas and Fayyad now to follow through for them.

 

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/

 

 

 

As I said above, Lendman cannot be answered in a blog article like this. It must be approached in a different way and in any case we have learned from the antisemites on groups such as Palestinian Solidarity that the anti-Semites (Israel haters) keep changing the argument as they go along

 

 

This is where 4international comes in. We stand in the revolutionary socialist traditions of Leon Trotsky and we also stand from that standpoint of revolutionary socialism, which today is Trotskyism, for the defense of the Jewish people against a new Holocaust.

 

 

4international has repeatedly said that Israel must become totally independent from American Imperialism, it must destroy Fatah and Hamas, and it must strike independently against the Iranian Nuclear Bomb

Those are the key issues.

How can that be done and therefore how can Lendman be given his answer?

 

I start from the basis of understanding that anti-Semitism did not end in 1945 but that the 1948 war was clearly genocidal against the Jews

 

Notice how Lendman simply rewrites this history. You see there is no arguing with Lendman. This phony left is simply based on a narrative of lies.

 

The answer to these lies can be found elsewhere, essentially in a combination of theory and practice.

 

Yesterday we wrote on the keu issue of power, specifically state power:

 

The issue is a question of state power. There must be a new party created and it must not only lead in the above, very urgently, but it must also take possession of the Haaretz presses and must use these presses to create a new Jewish paper for the masses of Jews and Israelis, based on telling the truth. 

IF JEWS DO NOT TAKE CONTROL OF THE ISRAELI STATE APPARATUS FROM THEIR ENEMIES THEY WILL CERTAINLY SUFFER A NEW HOLOCAUST. THAT IS THE CENTRAL ISSUE.

 

The issue of Haaretz… Which is quoted every day by the anti-Semites of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, is central, because it is also the issue of parties in Israel which are anti-Semitic, one of these being the Israeli Labour Party, another being the group around the Israeli Stalinists, misnamed as communists.

 

And with Haaretz is the Israeli High Court system which prevents Israel from defense.

 

The reality that faces Jews is that they are in a situation of war, and this war is a war on their part of self-defense.

For example Turkish Erdogan simply lies and lies and these lies are part of the war and preparation for a new Holocaust. The Mavi Marmora was boarded by Israeli soldiers armed with paint guns. Only in self-defense did the soldiers fire any side arms. Erdogan, like Hitler and Goebbels, simply does not care about facts.

 

In this situation of war Israel must have a party at its head which disregards formal bourgeois democracy. Israel needs a democracy of a people in war, in a fight to prevent a Holocaust

 

That means closing down this reactionary Israel High Court system, closing Harretz, and many other such measures.

 

The issue of foreign policy is absolutely central. Take Libya. Israel under such a party would send its soldiers into Libya in order to fight on the side of Muammar Gadhafi, despite past differences, because first it is the massacre (which is happening as we write) of the pro Gadhafi Tuareg, next it is massacre of the Jews of Israel in a new Holocaust.

 

Leadership! Leadership! Leadership!

 

Israel and Jews must have a leadership of struggle, and we will never allow 4international to be silenced!

 

 

TAKING POSSESSION OF THE HAARETZ PRESSES AND USING THEM TO PRINT A JEWISH REVOLUTIONARY PAPER FOR THE MASSES

Haaretz 13 September 2012

 

The writer is a Jewish man Akiva Eldar and is carried not only on Haaretz but also ont he viciously anti Jewish MIFTAH organization

http://www.miftah.org/Display.cfm?DocId=23885&CategoryId=5

 

ELDAR WRITES

After Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert accepted the June 4, 1967, lines and agreed territory swaps as the negotiations’ starting point, the way to talks on the lines of the Jordan Valley-Ariel-Mishor Adumim was blocked.

The Bar-Ilan speech, in which Netanyahu first spoke of the two-state solution, seems today more like a satirical play than a “historic speech.” Some 140 states have already promised to vote in the UN General Assembly to accept Palestine within the ’67 lines as a non-member state.

This will pave the way to filing lawsuits against Israel Defense Forces soldiers and settlers in the International Criminal Court and to Palestine’s acceptance into international organizations such as UNESCO.

In the next few days the Palestinian leadership is due to decide whether to go to the UN Security Council first and force President Barack Obama to choose what is more important – ingratiating himself with Israel’s friends in the Jewish world and annoying the United States’ friends in the Arab world, or vice versa.

Major European states, including France and Spain, as well as Russia and the UN secretary-general, are refusing to toe Obama’s line.

Their leaders have noticed something has happened in the Arab world this past spring. They are not eager to pull their ambassadors out of Arab capitals.

An article – more accurately, a warning letter – published by Saudi Prince Turki al-Faisal in The New York Times yesterday, says that Obama doesn’t have the option of sitting on the fence without ripping his trousers.

A former director of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former Saudi ambassador to London and Washington, al-Faisal warns the American president that vetoing the proposal to recognize Palestine in the Security Council would cause substantial damage to American-Saudi relations.

He threatens that Saudi Arabia would turn its back on the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The prince proposes turning the Oslo paradigm into a regional peace, on the basis of the Saudi peace initiative that became the Arab peace initiative.

The Israeli intelligence community assesses that progress in the peace process is the best remedy for Israel’s cooling relations with its neighbors. Similarly, al-Faisal writes that an American veto would empower Iran and threaten regional stability and America’s interests in the Middle East.

Two of the forum of eight senior cabinet ministers, Defense Minister Barak and Minister Dan Meridor, are familiar with the gloomy forecast by al-Faisal, who chairs the King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies (a cover for anti-Global Jihad activity).

They know that opening immediate negotiations over a final-status agreement with the Palestinian state as part of a regional process is the only responsible, realistic and sane alternative to the Oslo Accords. One wonders – how do these two sleep at night?

 

This is where 4international comes in. We stand in the revolutionary socialist traditions of Leon Trotsky and we also stand from that standpoint of revolutionary socialism, which today is Trotskyism, for the defence of the Jewish people against a new Holocaust.

 

We issue a challenge to Eliyokim Cohen of Jews News, to Greenfield and to many others we are meeting, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO PREVENT A HOLOCAUST OF THE JEWS IF YOU ALLOW THIS ANTISMEITIC POISON FROM HAARETZ TO GO OUT?

 

Akiva Eldar is in the above glorying in the antisemitic “Arab Spring” which poses a direct threat against the existence of Israel, and against the existence of the Jewish people as a people organized in their own homeland

 

4international has repeatedly said that Israel must become totally independent from American Imperialism, it must destroy Fatah and Hamas, and it must strike independently against the Iranian Nuclear Bomb

 

The issue is a question of state power. There must be a new party created and it must not only lead in the above, very urgently, but it must also take possession of the Haaretz presses and must use these presses to create a new Jewish paper for the masses of Jews and Israelis, based on telling the truth. 

 

And in this regard I ask why did Eliyokim Cohen of Jews News remove my comments from Jews News 2 days ago, and why the attack on 4international from Shiloh Musings. Also why the scurrilous attack on Trotskyism by Greenfield???

 

IF JEWS DO NOT TAKE CONTROL OF THE ISRAELI STATE APPARATUS FROM THEIR ENEMIES THEY WILL CERTAINLY SUFFER A NEW HOLOCAUST. THAT IS THE CENTRAL ISSUE.

 

 

WE WARNED ABOUT LIBYA AS STINGER TYPE MISSILES END UP IN HANDS OF HAMAS! 4INTERNATIONAL WILL NEVER BE SILENCED!

FROM DEBKA (the great www.debka.com)

 

 

Helped by highly sophisticated contraband weapons smuggled out of Libya, Iran and Hizballah are getting the Palestinian Hamas equipped for another round of hostilities with Israel. debkafile’s military sources report that Sunday, Sept. 25, Egyptian security forces, acting on information from a Western intelligence source, homed in near Ismailia on a large half-empty buried cache of advanced SA-24 anti-air infrared missiles (a version of the US Stinger) stored there en route from Libya to Gaza.
The information came too late to block delivery; most of the crates were found empty of their contents of missiles and other military equipment which must already be on their way to Sinai or Gaza. Some of the empty containers were found to have contained Russian-made MDM-3 sea mines, of the type Muammar Qaddafi scattered around Libyan ports in May to keep NATO vessels at bay.

 

as we explain below, destroy Hamas, destroy Fatah

The position of 4international is confirmed by this news from DEBKA.

From the very beginning we were totally alone is claiming  that the events in Tunisia, Egypt and in Libya would be the most direct threat on Israel and on the Jews

We maintained that the Arab Spring was “Sharia Fascism Antisemitism” on Steroids

Now Israel is faced with attack from every quarter

Egypt

Turkey

Iran and Syria in combo with Hamas and Hizbullah

Iran and Libya may prove the most decisive forces of all ranged against Israel. Iran because the western governments have worked a kind of street theatre of the absurd alliance with Iran over many years. This took the form of heavy propaganda against Iran while America has continually held Israel (Sharon, Olmert and Netanyahu) back from striking against Iran and stopping the Nuclear Bomb assembly. Libya, where Islam politically correct on steroids version is installed by Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy, now poses very immediate threat with Stingers in the arsenal of Hamas

We on 4international are now being attacked right, left and centre. And many of these attacks are coming on us from Jewish traitors, some of whom are calling themselves “religious Jews”.

But why are they attacking 4international, which as everybody knows from the name, represents the historical line to Leon Trotsky

We called to not let Mubarak (despite our different programme) fall

Also with Gadhafi.

We called and call for Israel to be independent from the US

Return the subsidy! Strike Iran! Destroy Hamas and Fatah! Create one unified Israel and Jewish state!

To Caroline Glick we say: Do not rely or slavishly follow US Congress. Instead mobilise the Jewish people en masse in Israel behind this revolutionary national programme, not a socialist programme, because the esistence of Jews as a people is at stake

To all true Jewish patriots we say: defend 4international, do not allow poisoned traitors to attack us.

Usually these attacks take the form of poison, withdrawal of our comments, snide comments about Trotsky based on lies of course, but also these lies are dependent on ignorance of history, and downright backwardness.

4international told the truth about Yugoslavia

4international told the truth about the “Arab Spring”, that it is Sharia/Capitalist Dictatorship

And we have always told the truth that the palestinian State is the plans to continue the Holocaust, in new and even worse forms

And 4international will NEVER be silenced

UN SPEECH BY ABBAS WAS JEW HATRED/BIG LIE ON STEROIDS…4INTERNATIONAL TROTSKYIST ANALYSIS

So, what a momentous week at the UN

Let us work together to build a future for our children, said the Nazi Arafat in a suit Abbas, the man who gained his doctorate in Moscow by writing a screed of Holocaust Denial!

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Abbas speech at UN raised memories of the Holocaust

The speech by Abbas to the UN was such a veritable litany of lies, “lying layered” you could call it, as only a disciple of Goebbels could do, that I was speechless listening to it.

But these lies about the Jewish and Arab Narrative have now become part of the general narrative thanks mainly to the likes of the BBC, and many unscrupulous reporters such as Robert Fisk repeating the Big Lie week after week, year after year, whole lifeimes of individuals being devoted to these lies, in the manner also of the Srebrenica Big Lie.

Therein lies the problem and those listening, almost all, were swallowing these Goebbels like lies, because they have been indoctrinated by the prevalent Nazi propaganda against the Jews and against the Jewish state. They know no better.

The Israeli leaders since 1948, who have had possession of the Israeli state, and ruled supreme over the Israeli state, have failed to tell this narrative, failed hopelessly, and the big question not asked by any Jews I have met is why?

The answer to that is found in the unassailable fact recently uncovered that Netanyahu has been telling the US to continue funding Nazi Goebbels type books and education to Palestinian Arab children and this has taken place in recent months!

And again why? Netanyahu and the Israeli leaders, as the Debka website keeps exposing, just do not want to rock the boat and want to go on pretending the lie of Obama/Clinton/Powers that it is possible to have a compromise between the Jews and the Nazi propaganda of the Palestinian Arabs

SPEECH PURE NAZI LIES

The speech by Abbas was pure Nazi lying. There were so many lies it needs an extended study but we on 4international are not going to take that road, answering lie by lie, because these lies only will morph in the retelling.

Rather 4international is telling the truthful story ourselves and we invite all who we meet to read this story, an on-going project that many people are free to participate in.

But Jews will easily have picked up on a couple of key issues in the Abbas speech which are worth noting.

For one Abbas talked about 63 years, but that 63 years brings us back to the formation of the Israeli state.

Note that when the PLO in 1964 was formed there was no West Bank and the aim of the PLO was to destroy Israel. The speech showed that Abbas has not changed from that.

Secondly, Abbas kept referring to the Nakba, but the war of 1948 was clearly and is easily shown to be a genocidal war on the part of 5 Arab Armies to create rivers of blood, Jewish blood, and the leader was Hajj Amin el Husseini, central figure in the Holocaust of the Jews, just 3 years before. In other words it was a continuation of the Holocaust.

So Abbas was doing what these Palestinian Arabs do best, tell the Big Lie, and in this case tell the Big Lie against the Jews, which is anti-Semitism.

 

NETANYAHU BRAVE AND SAID USEFUL THINGS

Netanyahu in his speech was brave and said many useful and true things.

For example he said that Palestine wants a state without peace. In other words a Jihadist state, or a state with which to wage war, in other words the “stages theory of Arafat!

That indeed is the centre of the issue of the Palestine Arab state issue. The Arabs want a Palestine Arab State because it is a “stage” in the total destruction of Israel.

How do we know that? The Arabs themselves have told us that. Arafat told that to Arabs in Arabic. It is a repeated refrain in Palestinian Arab circles.

Of course when the Arabs talk about these things to the likes of the BBC things are presented rather differently. Then the Palestinian Arabs like Ashrawi, herself a wealthy woman, adopt the screeching pose of a down at heel victim, and if it was not for the diabolical Jews then peace would have come aeons ago! Total anti-Semitism!

 

AND THE FUTURE

What can Israel do?

Let me and 4international here be totally honest: Israel can do very little because it is saddled by the most awful leaders that it is possible to put together. The lesson of Netanyahu encouraging for anti-Semitic school books to Arab children is a salutary lesson.

Israeli leaders can do little about the situation and they will do little. This is what Jews who I come into contact with on various blogs etc find hard to come to terms with. The whole of the Jewish Israeli scene is characterised by bankruptcy in leadership, by personal and political paralysis, and in the end by excuses. Very few I have met can look reality in the eye and accept reality.

There is a deep reason for this bankruptcy and for this paralysis which is never discussed, and woe to anybody who tries to discuss it, although some of the Jews of Israel are beginning to understand the problem.

There is always some vested interest to step in and attempt to block any development with poisoned words such as “Oh you know he is a Trotskyist etc. etc.!!!” As if we would hide this most proud heritage!

 

JUDAISM IS A 2 EDGED SWORD

Judaism is a 2 edged sword. On the one hand Judaism has held the Jewish people together in great adversity and has in fact created the Jewish people

But on the other hand Judaism was unable to produce one single worthwhile analysis of Fascism, of Hitlerism, of the very force which sought to destroy them as a race and people.

Only Leon Trotsky was able and willing to do just that (create an analysis of Fascism)

The implication of this for the present are enormous.

In order to survive the Jewish people now need to make a veritable political and theoretical leap. There needs to be a leap in consciousness as a precondition for a correct strategy to fight against Fascism in 2011, which is of course the Jihad, Palestinianism, and the depredations of NATO today (Libya) on a world scale, all of which are intertwined.

 

ONLY FROM TROTSKYISM

But in a general sense this leap will not take place in the Jewish religious circles, in fact in general these are going to oppose this leap being made. Some religious youth may make this leap in consciousness but that is the exception not the rule.

What Jews must do is not going to emerge out of the Jews themselves. In many ways the Jews will need to break from their narrow Judaism in order to make this leap.

If not from inside it can only come from outside and that outside is the theory and heritage of Trotskyism which we alone on 4international represent today.

POSTSCRIPT

Sept 22 on CAMERA

Palestinian Official: No End of Conflict After Palestinian State

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Palestinian ambassador to Lebanon Abdullah Abdullah

 

There was a time when Palestinian leaders sought to conceal their goal of overrunning the Jewish state in misleading commentary for Western audiences that implied a willingness to accept coexistence with a sovereign Israel. Now, evidently, times have changed and blunt statements are deemed safe to make. A remarkable interview in Lebanon’s Daily Star (September 15, 2011) illustrates the shift. According to Abdullah Abdullah, Palestinian ambassador to Lebanon, Palestinians would not all become automatic citizens of any future Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza. The story reports:

This would not only apply to refugees in countries such as Lebanon, Egypt, Syria and Jordan or the other 132 countries where Abdullah says Palestinians reside. Abdullah said that “even Palestinian refugees who are living in [refugee camps] inside the [Palestinian] state, they are still refugees. They will not be considered citizens. Abdullah said that the new Palestinian state would “absolutely not” be issuing Palestinian passports to refugees.

Abdullah’s willingness to leave Palestinians stateless in camps even in territory under Palestinian authority is spelled out further for anyone who’s missed the point:

The right of return that Abdullah says is to be negotiated would not only apply to those Palestinians whose origins are within the 1967 borders of the state, he adds. “The state is the 1967 borders, but the refugees are not only from the 1967 borders. The refugees are from all over Palestine. When we have a state accepted as a member of the United Nations, this is not the end of the conflict. This is not a solution to the conflict. This is only a new framework that will change the rules of the game.”

Is that clear? “When we have a state accepted as a member of the United Nations, this is not the end of the conflict” just a change in the rules of the game. Sound like the PLO’s 1974 “phased plan” for the destruction of Israel?

Something, indeed, is changing when an “ambassador” can give an interview such as this and there’s not a ripple in the Western media.

hat tip Evelyn Gordon at Contentions

 

Posted by AL at September 22, 2011 01:06 PM

Comments

“..an “ambassador” can give an interview such as this and there’s not a ripple in the Western media.”

There is not a ripple because the destruction of Israel and the ascendance of Islam is the desiderata of most of the Third World, the Western media and a host of ‘useful idiot’ activists.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 22, 2011 07:48 PM

So if not all Palestinians would become citizens, and the conflict with Israel would not end, what exactly is the point of a Palestinian state? In my view, none at all… it is just one more tool directed against Israel and for that reason, should be denied.

Posted by: RMKosht at September 23, 2011 01:30 AM

I could never understand why the Arabs living in Gaza and the West Bank BEFORE 1948 are also considered “refugees”, since they did not lose their homes or land, whether voluntarily or not.

Additionally, how can it be that “Palestinians” who hold another country’s citizenship and passport are still considered “refugees”?

The illogic of the “Palestinian Refugee Issue” passes all boundaries at times– these are scenarios that even Kafka couldn’t have invented.

http://blog.camera.org/archives/2011/09/post_76.html

POSTSCRIPT 2

Sept 11

WOULD THERE BE JEWS IN PALESTINE?

Statements this week by the Palestine Liberation Organization’s ambassador to the United States, Maen Rashid Areikat, have implied that maybe there would be Jews in a Palestinian state, maybe not. “After the experience of the last 44 years of military occupation and all the conflict and friction, I think it would be in the best interest of the two people to be separated,” he told reporters earlier this week. He then clarified, “Under no circumstances was I saying that no Jews can be in Palestine. … I never said that, and I never meant to say such a thing. This is not a religious conflict, and we want to establish a secular state.” The Center for American Progress’ Matt Duss notes that this notion originates in an interview Areikat gave a year ago … to literary editor David Samuels in Tablet Magazine. If we go that particular tape, we do find Areikat repeatedly moving toward a definition of Jewishness that is religious rather than ethnic, a premise that allows him to question both the wisdom of having Jews in Palestine and the validity of Israel’s being recognized as the Jewish state:

Everywhere in the world, Jews follow the nationality and citizenship of the country where they live. In the United States, you have American Jews, who live in the United States. You have French Jews. And this was the original argument between us and the Jews. Why can’t you be Palestinian Jews? …

At one point, we believed that Jews are followers of religion, and not a nation and a people, and I’ll tell you why. In order to be one people, one nation, you have to be homogenous. …

Israel is a political establishment that claims to represent Jews all over the world. I very much doubt that Israel and Prime Minister Netanyahu represent every Jew in the world. I know there are Jews who don’t agree with Netanyahu. …

I’m not saying to transfer every Jew, I’m saying transfer Jews who, after an agreement with Israel, fall under the jurisdiction of a Palestinian state.

Any Jew who is inside the borders of Palestine will have to leave? [asked Samuels.]

Absolutely. I think this is a very necessary step, before we can allow the two states to somehow develop their separate national identities, and then maybe open up the doors for all kinds of cultural, social, political, economic exchanges, that freedom of movement of both citizens of Israelis and Palestinians from one area to another. You know you have to think of the day after.

But it becomes clear that Areikat’s real objection to recognizing Israel as the Jewish state is strategic:

Let’s say that tomorrow the Palestinian leadership comes out and says, “OK, we’re ready to recognize the Jewishness of the state.” What implications would that have, immediately, on the Palestinians? You know that in our view the refugee problem is the crux of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Today we have 6.5 million registered refugees out of 10 or 10.5 million Palestinians. One out of six refugees in the world is Palestinian. By accepting Israel’s claim now, that they are a Jewish state, we are telling the Israelis: Forget about the refugees, forget about their plight, no right of return, no U.N. General Assembly resolution 194; we are giving up the refugee issue, we are taking it off the table before we even started negotiating.

Yet what is most remarkable about the interview is its time-capsule nature. One year ago—the interview was published last October—Fatah, the moderate Palestinian faction that controls the PLO and the Palestinian Authority and of which Areikat is a loyal member, consciously cast itself as the weaker party, at Israel’s whim, quietly building the trappings of statehood under Prime Minister Salam Fayyad. “Israel is the stronger party in the equation,” Areikat said then. “Palestinians have no way of forcing Israel to accept anything.” One year later, the U.N. move has been transformed from a practical next step in the peace process into a symbolic end-run around it. This bait-and-switch, and how little notice it’s received, is striking.

POSTSCRIPT 3

ABBAS ALSO IS CLEAR…NO JEWS!

Abbas: NO Jewish state, NO Jews in Palestine, No end to refugees

THE OBAMA SPEECH LAST NIGHT…PEACE COMES OUT OF THE HEART AND NOT FROM EMPTY WORDS

I agree with this from Shiloh Musings and added a comment to that blog

I believe that peace comes only from the heart and Islam is a supremacist and violent ideology

They write about the speech of Obama last night:

Thursday, September 22, 2011

Some Simple Truths: A Speech is Just a Speech and No Matter How You Slice It, A Pseudostinian aka Palestinian sic State Endangers The Continued Survival of The State of Israel

United States President Barack Hussein Obama’s latest speech at the United Nations is a great improvement over his previous ones, but it’s still just a speech.  Even he mocks the power of speeches.

“Peace depends upon compromise among peoples who must live together long after our speeches are over, and our votes have been counted.”

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Peace does not come from speeches…the Fogel

 

Says Shiloh Musings (url and video details below)

 

I hate to spoil the party, rain on your parade, but it doesn’t matter who claims it’s possible…

There is no way that Israel can survive if there’s a Pseudostinian aka Palestinian sic State!

This new video promoted by aish.com makes no sense.  It is Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s policy.

On one hand it shows the dangers that a Pseudostinian aka Palestinian sic State would bring to Israel, and on the other hand it claims that it’s possible to make some sort of deal with the Arabs on the establishment of a new Arab country in the heart of the Jewish Homeland that wouldn’t destroy or endanger Israel.  It makes absolutely no sense.  There’s no logic to it.  Planting a country in the middle of another one has never worked, not any other place in the world. 

Why is the world ignoring the fact that the Arabs have always attacked, terrorized an murdered Jews here long before there was a State of Israel?  Why does Israel, the government, media and academics ignore this fact?

There will never be peace as long as the world promotes the establishment of a Pseudostinian aka Palestinian sic State!

Posted by Batya

MY COMMENT

Felix Quigley
4international
Ireland and Spain

I agree with you. My reading over recend days has centred on an article by Martin Gilbert which I do recommend you read

http://www.jcpa.org/text/israel-rights/kiyum-gilbert.pdf

Most people do not understand at all what happened during the years 1917 to 1923 aprox.

In short

San Remo 1920 the Balfour Declaration was fleshed out and made into International Law” and the Jewish state was to be all of present day Israel, Gaza, Golan Heights and present day Jordan

Cairo March 1921 Churchill and Britain made strong statements in support of the Jews and Zionism but IN THE SAME SPEECH stripped away from the Jewish Homeland 78 per cent calling it Transjordan TO BE JUDENFREI

Directly after Cairo Churchill travelled to Jerusalem and there he was presented with a petition from the Arabs stating that they would accept no Jewish Immigration

As Churchill returned home riots from the Arab (Muslims) followed and the Jewish by birth British Warlord Samuel stated that Jewish Immigration was suspended

And therein is the pattern of the Jihad in general, which will be repeated post the Obama speech. This is a law of nature. It is as predictable as day follows night.

http://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2011/09/some-simple-truths-speech-is-just.html

KEEP IN TOUCH! AND BE WITH IT!

I am continuing to add more and more material to our treatise on Jewish History each day something new is added. Do not everlook this article!

https://4international.wordpress.com/telling-the-truth-about-israel-and-the-jews-from-1850-on-and-also-opposing-the-lies-of-the-antisemitic-narrative/

AND WILL THE ANTISEMITES BOYCOTT THIS ALSO: Clinical Trials on Stem Cell Treatment for Lou Gehrig’s Disease

Clinical Trials on Stem Cell Treatment for Lou Gehrig’s Disease

Clinical trials have just begun on a new Israeli technology by TAU scientists to help patients suffering from Lou Gehrig’s disease.
By Hana Levi Julian, MSW, LCSW-R

First Publish: 9/21/2011, 12:55 PM

 

NurOwn stem cell technology

NurOwn stem cell technology
Israel news photo: TAU

Researchers at Tel Aviv University have announced they are launching clinical trials on a new technology intended to
protect the human brain from neurodegenerative disorders such as Parkinson’s and ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as Lou Gehrig’s disease.

Developed by Professor Daniel Offen and Professor Eldad Melamed of TAU’s Sackler Faculty of Medicine and Felsenstein Medical Research Center, the technology has been taking to the patent-pending stage.

It works like this: Stem cells are extracted from a patient’s own bone marrow and differentiated into astrocyte-like cells. These cells are responsible for the well-being of the brain’s neurons.

The cells release neurotrophic factors, or neuroprotectants, which have been shown to play a key role in reducing the progress of ALS, a debilitating disease characterized by the progressive degeneration of motor neurons that results in paralysis of a patient’s limbs and organ functions.

Because the original cells are drawn from the patients themselves, said Offen, the body should have no adverse reactions.

The research appeared in the Journal of Stem Cells Reviews and Reports, and a number of other publications. 

According to the researchers, it took 10 years to develop the technology, which was then licensed to BrainStorm Cell Therapeutics – a spinoff of TAU — to develop it into a clinical-grade product. It is now called “NurOwn” and is being used in a clinical trial at Hadassah Medical Center in Jerusalem. The product will also be used in clinical trials at Massachusetts General Hospital in collaboration with the University of Massachusetts Medical School.

Although the current study targets ALS, Offen added that the cells have the potential to treat a broad range of neurodegenerative conditions, including Parkinson’s and Huntington’s diseases.

THE ISSUE OF THE “PALESTINIANS” IS REALLY AN HISTORICAL TERM: THIS IS A FAKE TERM AND A FAKE PEOPLE

READ VITAL NEW ANALYSIS OF ISRAEL AND LEADERSHIP ON

 

 https://4international.wordpress.com/telling-the-truth-about-israel-and-the-jews-from-1850-on-and-also-opposing-the-lies-of-the-antisemitic-narrative/

 

THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS

 

The lessons from history are like plums ready to be picked

Visit our key article, and do not miss Apendix 3!

https://4international.wordpress.com/telling-the-truth-about-israel-and-the-jews-from-1850-on-and-also-opposing-the-lies-of-the-antisemitic-narrative/

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PROVING THE JEWISH HISTORICAL CLAIM TO PALESTINE, reference to 1929 Hebron Massacre, epitomizes plight of the Jews, without Israel they are vulnerable, always!

 

But already we are finding that all of the key lessons from the past are there, ready for the plucking, like ripe plums from a tree, and these lessons are the invaluable guide to the present issue of leadership

 

The issue of the “Palestinians” is really an historical issue. This is a fake term and a fake people.

 

In the period of the mandate, from 1923 to 1948, if you said you were a “Palestinian” you would have been taken for a Jew. Only Jews as a general rule called themselves “Palestinians”.

 

The concept of Arabs being “Palestinian” is a fake concept. The Arabs up until 1948 hated the term Palestinian, and associated the term Palestinian with being a Jew, because it was Jews only who were nation building.

 

The Arabs from the very word go were always just reacting to the Jews building their nation.

 

The centre of this negation of the Jews,and negation of the Jews nation building, lies essentially in backward andsupremacist Islam. All of this is well documented inside the texts of Islam.

 

The trip of Abbas and these “Palestinians” to the United Nations is nothing less than the latest episode of Jihad which is to destroy the Jewish state, and that is all that it is.

 

But remember that Christianity had built its Basilica on top of the Jewish Temple, and then rampant Islam built its Mosque on top of that Basilica.

 

Islam is an ideology of Supremacy and it cannot tolerate Israel as a vibrant expression of Jewish nationalism in its midst, in the midst of Islamic lands.

 

But remember it was the Basilica AND the Mosque, both, which straddled the Temple,as a symbol of keeping the Jew down, and keeping the Jew in his place.

 

This is the essence of what is going on in New York as the Arab newly created “Palestinians” trail across with all their gimmicks and tricks, to follow in the path of Arafat, who himself stood in the shoes of his mentor Hajj Amin el Husseini, close friend and colleague of Hitler, Himmler and Eichmann

 

The Christian world of the West is all too ready to throw out the welcoming mat to the Arafats of this world. It is only the Jews after all, they think, and the Jews have become far too uppity of late, with their scientists, their Nobel Prize winners, and their temerity in even travelling en force to places like Haiti to help the affirm and afflicted.

 

It is essentially the task of we Christian powers, and we Islam devotees, to keep the Jews afflicted. We Christians may not say this, we may say something far more politically correct, but we feel it.

 

Hence this great Union in New York between Islam and the Christian world which we witness this week.

 

We exclude of course many American Christians. But they stand in a somewhat differnt tradition to the Vatican and its ilk. The American Christians, like Sarah palin, also stand in the tradition of the First Amendment, and they understand very well that Islam is a Fascist Movement which is directed not only against the Jews but also against the real gains for humanity as are contained in the American Revolution and its cherished Constitution, which stands in the road of Islam, and which also stands in the road of American traitors.

ERDOGAN AND GUL ARE COMPLETE ANTISEMITES AND ARE NO DIFFERENT TO HITLER, HIMMLER AND GOEBBELS

WE HAVE TO TRACK THESE NAZIS IN TURKEY AS THEY STIR UP ANTISEMITISM, NAZI STYLE PROPAGANDISING, FROM ERDOGAN, GUL AND THESE MODERN DAY NAZIS

THIS IS FROM JERUSALEM POST OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=237329

Turkish President Abdullah Gul
Photo by: REUTERS

Turkish president calls Israel ‘ungrateful burden’

By JPOST.COM STAFF
09/09/2011 12:04

Gül quoted as saying that Israel should consider “honorable peace” with its Arab neighbors instead of acting like the world owes it something.

 

 

Turkish President Abdullah Gül said on Thursday that Israel is an ungrateful burden to its allies, Turkish newspaper Hurriyet Daily News reported.
 
“AN UNGRATEFUL BURDEN” THESE NAZIS CALL GREAT AND WONDERFUL ISRAEL
 
THIS IS NAZI ANTISEMITIC CODE FOR THE OLD ANTISEMITIC MEMES, JEWS ARE THE CURSE OF THE WORLD. IN THIS CONTEXT GUL IS CLAIMING THAT JEWS ARE A CURSE TO THE US. BUT THE REALITY IS THE CASE. JEWS AND ISRAEL ARE THE ONLY HOPE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE GOT, THE ONLY HOPE THAT THE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR HAVE GOT, AS THE AMERICAN RULING CLASS (CAPITALIST RULING CLASS) LINES UP ALL THE TIME WITH ARAB MONEY IN A THOUSAND WAYS!
 
WE WILL DEAL MUCH MORE WITH THIS, AND DOCUMENT EVERY STEP OF THESE TUKISH OTTOMAN NAZIS OF THE MODERN ERA, GUL ET AL
 
JUST REMEMBER THESE NAZIS IN TURKEY, THEIR OWN CAPITALIST SYSTEM IS ENTERING DEEP CRISIS, WITH A DEFECIT WHICH IS BALLOONING. LIKE HITLER DID THEY NEED ANTISEMITISM AND THEY NEED A WAR.
 
READ ALL THIS STUFF FROM GUL AND ERDOGAN IN THAT LIGHT:
 
 

On his way to a multicultural conference in Russia, Gül accused Israel of offering to apologize four times for the Mavi Marmara incident, but then reneging each time. 

RELATED:
Turkish government, opposition spat over Israel crisis
Exclusive: Erdan – The Turks are trying to humiliate us

According to the Turkish president, Israel should consider an “honorable peace” with its Arab neighbors and stop acting as if the world, especially Turkey, owes it favors, the report said.

He also criticized what he called Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s inability to receive as warm a welcome to the his own Knesset as he does when he speaks before the American Congress, referring to a speech he gave in the United States earlier in the summer.

 
(GUL IS NAZI POISON. WE ON 4INTERNATIONAL THINK NETANYAHU IS A DANGEROUS AND A WEAK LEADER FROM A JEWISH SURVIVAL STANDPOINT, BUT WE DEFEND HIM, AND WE ASK ALL TO DEFEND HIM, AGAINST THESE ANTISEMITIC NAZIS LIKE ERDOGAN AND GUL)
 
The Turkish president’s comments came after on Thursday he stated that Turkey never harassed Israeli tourists at the Istanbul Ataturk Airport, despite reports that some 40 passengers were singled out and underwent more stringent security procedures than other travelers.
 
(SO ALL THOSE ISRAELIS WERE LYING ON THAT DAY AT THE AIRPORT IN ISTANBUL!!!)Gül said that the deterioration of ties between Ankara and Jerusalem was not being directed towards “individuals.”

Speaking to pan-Arab Al-Arabiya, Gül also restated Turkish plans to head to the International Criminal Court to determine the legality of the blockade on the Gaza Strip adding that Ankara rejected the UN-backed Palmer report which legitimized the IDF blockade

 
THE ANSWER HERE IS TO LOOK AGAIN AT THE MAVI MARMORA ISSUE AND INCIDENT.
 
WHAT WAS IT CARRYING? NOTHING, ONLY TERRORISTS AND ANTISEMITES.
 
HOW DID THE ISRAELIS BOARD? WITH PAINTGUNS FOR GOODNESS SAKE!
 
PUBLISH THE PHOTOS OF ISRAELI SOLDIERS ON THE GROUND IN GREAT DANGER OF LYNCHING, ON THAT VERY BOAT.
 
9 WERE KILLED. WHO KILLED THEM? JARED ISRAEL OF EMPERORS NEW CLOTHES WHO IS AN EXPERT CLAIMS THEY MAY HAVE SHOT THEIR OWN, LIKE EL DURA, AS A SACRIFICE. EMINENTLY POSSIBLE.
 
IN ANY CASE 9 IS A VERY SMALL NUMBER AND IT WAS THEY WHO ATTACKED FIRST MAKING IT AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER…THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED.
 
THE SEIGE TO STOP ARMS GETTING TO JEW HATERS HAMAS IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO THE UNITED NATIONS OWN INQUIRY ETC.
 
 
THE TURKS MURDERED A MILLION PLUS ARMENIANS AND WILL NOT GIVE THE KURDS THEIR COUNTRY IN THE MOUNTAINS!!!!
 
SO MANY WAYS TO ANSWER THESE NAZIS!!!

HOW THE JEWS WERE TRICKED: 4INTERNATIONAL IN AN HISTORICAL SERIES IS ANSWERING THE ANTISEMITES OF TODAY

 

These maps assert the Jewish case for their Homeland and also begin to point to the falsity of the Arab case for a 23rd Arab state to be formed, otherwise called to add to the overall Arab confusion,  “Palestine”
 
LOOKING AT THESE MAPS
Map one comes out of the famous Balfour Declaration of Lord Balfour, a section of the British Establishment, who through common admiration for the Bible, wished the Jews to have a Homeland.
 
Before moving on to the other two maps I would like you to note that the area shown here which is east and west of the river Jordan is undivided, and was to be the undivided Homeland of the Jewish people, or the area set aside to be that Homeland of the Jewish people.
 
The whole point of this concept of a Jewish Homeland for the Jewish people, is that the Jewish people had been dispersed by antisemitism (for example in 1492 the Spanish drove out the Jews) and so this area was set aside for the Jewish people. THE IDEA WAS THAT THE jEWISH PEOPLE WOULD RETURN.
 
Now please spend some time thinking on this and note (I am still on map 1) this was not a very big area at all, for a whole people, such as the Jews.
 
That is why I would like you to skip map 2 for the moment and look at map 3, where we move along to the present day.
 
This map shows just a small part of the Arab world into which the Jewish Homeland of 1917 to 1920 snuggles. Focus on the original area as in map 3, this area now is made up of Jordan, Israel which is in yellow in the map, and a strange looking bunion which buts into this now tiny Israel, making the whole thing almost comical looking.
 
There is a story here which we will have to explore, how we went from map 1 to map 3, but I want here for the reader to do only one thing, focus on the size of this area of Jordan, Israel in yellow (!) and this strange bunion butting into Israel, in other words the whole, and place it mentally in the context of the overall Arab states.  And it was tiny and precarious looking, even then in 1920. I mean the whole thing including Jordan was tiny.
 
So to return to map 2, and this map shows 2 important things. First the date on Jordan which is 1924, which means that things changed rapidly from 1920 to 1924, and it is here that the greatest secrecy has existed and been built up, with many lies and much deliberate confusion. We have to understand the history of this. Second that the map 2 shows that not only is Israel greatly condensed but that there is a bunion sticking into its side (called the West Bank), which in one sense seems to be like a hungry monster, a very voracious parasite, taking a huge bite out of Israel, but that it almost is cutting Israel into two
 
These are all very basic and quite simple facts, easily comprehended.
 
But somehow the enemy of the Jews (always antisemitism) has had to through imagination (lies) escape from these truthful realities, which truthful realities are actually located very firmly in history
 
The relativist as the end argument will always jump in and say “but we can never understand history…it is always the individual’s interpretation…and we reply to that that we are never relativists and that we are based on the scientific basis that man can understand the world we live in, including its history.
 
So if you are a relativist, and you have it stuck in your feeble brain, that man cannot understand his past, then I wish you to switch off this site immediately. Go elsewhere. We do not want you here. We are scientists who believe that we can understand our world and our past.
 
So out with the relativists! Out with the liars! Out with the antisemites!
 
 
 
 
 

WHAT JEWS ARE UP AGAINST…A TRAITOROUS ISRAELI LABOUR PARTY

FIRST OF ALL THE NAME OF “SETTLER” IS INSULTING AND IS NOT ACCURATE EITHER.

THESE ARE JEWS, LIVING IN JUDEA, THE CORRECT NAME FOR THE RECENTLY MANUFACTURED “WEST BANK”

PLUS THEY HAVE NOT SEIZED ANY ARAB LAND. THEY HAVE SET UP ON AREAS WHICH WERE/ARE DESOLATE

PLUS ISRAEL WAS ATTACKED IN 1967 AND THEIR 1967 WAR WAS TOTALLY A DEFENSIVE WAR AND THE OCCUPATION OF JUDEA WAS PART OF THAT DEFENSIVE OPERATION, THUS NOT AN OCCUPATION AT ALL.

This is from

http://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2011/09/treason-what-1967-tragedies.html?spref=fb

It’s the weekly “Questionnaire” article given to some prominent Israeli to fill out.  Most run NGO’s or are politicians.  This week Lahav Harkov interviewed Labor MK Daniel Ben-Simon.  I must admit that I’d never heard of him before.  Apparently he had worked as a journalist for Left wing papers, Davar and Haaretz.  His answers were pretty boring until he got to this:

His statement that his first act as Israeli Prime Minister would be to give me twelve months to leave my home, totally outrageous and dangerous for the State of Israel as it would be, didn’t disturb me as much as his:

“This way we can finish the Six Day War and the tragedies it brought.”

Wooh!  Did you get that?  This man, who sits as a Member the Israeli Kenesset and makes laws to govern our state, says that the Six Day War brought “tragedies.”  All of the countries surrounding Israel, Jordan, Egypt and Syria united to destroy us, threatened to “throw the Israelis into the sea.”  There could have been one out of two results to this war.  Either we’d defeat them or be destroyed.  We were victorious, and in the process liberated our historic territories and in so doing straightened the indefensible borders.  Those old, aka green line borders had held for barely nineteen years.  They were cease-fire lines.  There was nothing holy, or even terribly legal about them.

WHO IS GUILTY FOR 9.11 ATROCITY…WE ASK ALL OUR READERS TO ORDER THIS BOOK…US ELITES AT CENTRE OF STATE ARE GUILTY

Guilty For 9-11:

 

Bush, Rumsfeld, Myers

 

http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-1.htm

 
Part 1
by Illarion Bykov and Jared Israel
[Posted 14 November 2001]
[Updated 17 November 2001]

Dedicated to the firefighters of New York.

=======================================

 

(note by felix quigley: as I understand it this book was not published back then, but  feel that it is urgent that it is now published, becausde 1. we have to ALWAYS have the truth and 2. antisemitic conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones and many others have used conspiracy theory to drive the truth movement into antisemitism, and also into a crude form of anti americanism. This has happened espicially on the pro Islam left. 4international says that 9.11 happened as part of the alliance of Islam with the US and British elite who are driving for dictatorship over the working class, as the world economic crisis in capitalism deepens. The questions raised by tenc must be explored further)

* Upcoming Book *
“Who did it? Solving the mystery of 9-11”

 

 

‘Guilty for 9-11, Part I’ was the first article to document the charge that the US Air Force was made to stand down on 9-11. The research in this and other EC articles on 9-11 has been used around the world, though not always with proper attribution.

Emperor’s Clothes will soon publish Editor Jared Israel’s book, ‘Who did it? Solving the mystery of 9-11.’ This book builds on the research published by Emperor’s Clothes, dealing with new issues and putting 9-11 in a global perspective.

For advance notice of publication, write
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— John Flaherty
Emperor’s Clothes

*****

– Introduction to Summary of Evidence –

Andrews Air Force Base is a huge military installation just 10 miles from the Pentagon.

On 11 September Andrews had two squadrons of fighter jets with the job of protecting the skies over Washington D.C. They failed to do their job. Despite over one hour’s advance warning of a terrorist attack in progress, not a single Andrews fighter took off (or scrambled) to protect the city.

The FAA, NORAD and the military have cooperative procedures by which fighter jets intercept commercial aircraft under emergency conditions. These procedures were not followed.

Air Force officials and others have tried to explain away the failures:

“Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski, another Pentagon spokesman, [said]: ‘The Pentagon was simply not aware that this aircraft was coming our way, and I doubt prior to Tuesday’s event, anyone would have expected anything like that here.'”
–‘
Newsday,’ 23 September 2001 (1)

Using information from the mass media and official Websites, we will show that this is a lie.

Some of what happened on 9-11, such as planes flying into buildings, is unusual. But most of what happened, such as commercial jets flying off-course, transponder failures and possible hijackings, are everyday emergencies. We will show that these emergencies are routinely handled with expert efficiency based on clear rules.

The crash of the first hijacked jet into the World Trade Center made it clear the United States was faced with an extraordinary situation. This should have intensified the emergency responses of the air safety and air defense systems.

The whole country was aware. For example, at 9:06AM the NY Police broadcast:

” ‘This was a terrorist attack. Notify the Pentagon.'”
–‘
Daily News‘ (New York) 12 September 2001 (2)

‘American Forces Press Service’ reported that ordinary people working at the Pentagon worried they could be next:

“‘We were watching the World Trade Center on the television,’ said a Navy officer. ‘When the second plane deliberately dove into the tower, someone said, ‘The World Trade Center is one of the most recognizable symbols of America. We’re sitting in a close second.'”
–‘
DEFENSELINK News‘, Sept. 13, 2001 (3)

U.S. air safety and air defense emergency systems are activated in response to problems every day. On 9-11 they failed despite, not because of, the extreme nature of the emergency. This could only happen if individuals in high positions worked in a coordinated way to make them fail.

Such operatives would almost surely have failed if they tried to disrupt and abort routine protection systems without top-level support. The failure of the emergency systems would be noticed immediately. Moreover, given the catastrophic nature of the attacks, the highest military authorities would be alerted. Acting on their own, the operatives could expect that their orders would be countermanded and that they themselves would be arrested.

The sabotage of routine protective systems, controlled by strict hierarchies, would never have been contemplated let alone attempted absent the involvement of the supreme U.S. military command. This includes at least U.S. President George Bush, U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and the then-Acting Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General Richard B. Myers.

In the following summary of evidence we will demonstrate probable cause for charging the above-named persons with treason for complicity in the murders of thousands of people whom they had sworn to protect.

The summary of evidence covers the following areas:

* Andrews Air Force Base and the myth of ‘no available planes;’

* The air safety/air defense systems and the myth that they were not prepared;

* The actions of George Bush on 9-11 that clearly violated his positive legal and constitutional obligations and demonstrated consciousness of guilt;

* The testimony of General Richard B. Myers at Senate hearings on his nomination as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In these hearings, the contents of which were reported accurately by one lone journalist, General Myers attempted to cover up what had happened 9-11 when he was Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He offered three mutually contradictory cover stories and demonstrated consciousness of guilt;

* The cover story floated by CBS evening news, September 14th.
Until that time, officials reported that no planes had been ‘scrambled’ to intercept the hijacked planes. But following Gen. Myers disastrous Senate testimony, CBS broadcast an improved version of 9-11. In the new script, fighter jets from Otis and Langley Air Force Bases did try, but failed, to intercept the hijacked planes. This is now presented as the official NORAD story and has been repeated uncritically by media and government officials alike. We will demonstrate that this cover story is both weak and incriminating.

Part 1: Why did no fighter jets ‘scramble’ to protect Washington D.C.?

Lie #1: ‘No Combat Ready Fighters Were Stationed Near The Pentagon’

As noted, Andrews Air Force base is 10 miles from the Pentagon. The media has mainly avoided talking about Andrews. An exception is ‘USA Today,’ the second-highest circulation newspaper in America. On one day it published two contradictory stories to explain the failure to scramble jets from Andrews prior to the Pentagon crash:

FIRST ‘USA TODAY’ STORY:

“Andrews Air Force Base, home to Air Force One, is only 15 miles [sic!] away from the Pentagon, but it had no fighters assigned to it. Defense officials won’t say whether that has changed.”
–‘
USA TODAY,’ 17 September 2001 (4)

SECOND ‘USA TODAY’ STORY:

“The District of Columbia National Guard maintained fighter planes at Andrews Air Force Base, only about 15 miles [sic!] from the Pentagon, but those planes were not on alert and not deployed.”
–‘
USA TODAY‘ September 17, 2001 (5)

Both stories are false.

Only one newspaper told the truth. That was the ‘San Diego Union-Tribune’:

“Air defense around Washington is provided mainly by fighter planes from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland near the District of Columbia border. The D.C. Air National Guard is also based there and equipped with F-16 fighter planes, a National Guard spokesman said.

“But the fighters took to the skies over Washington only after the devastating attack on the Pentagon…”
–‘
San Diego Union-Tribune‘ 12 September 2001. (6)

Andrews Air Force Base is a huge installation. It hosts two ‘combat-ready’ squadrons:

* the 121st Fighter Squadron (FS-121) of the 113th Fighter Wing (FW-113), equipped with F-16 fighters;

* the 321st Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA-321) of the 49th Marine Air Group, Detachment A (MAG-49 Det-A), equipped with
F/A-18 fighters
.

These squadrons are served by hundreds of full-time personnel.

THE 121st FIGHTER SQUADRON, 113th FIGHTER WING

“…as part of its dual mission, the 113th provides capable and ready response forces for the District of Columbia in the event of a natural disaster or civil emergency. Members also assist local and federal law enforcement agencies in combating drug trafficking in the District of Colombia. [They] are full partners with the active Air Force”
DC Military (7)

THE 321st MARINE FIGHTER ATTACK SQUADRON (VMFA-321)

“In the best tradition of the Marine Corps, a ‘few good men and women’ support two combat-ready reserve units at Andrews AFB.

“Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 321, a Marine Corps Reserve squadron, flies the sophisticated F/A-18 Hornet. Marine Aviation Logistics Squadron 49, Detachment A, provides maintenance and supply functions necessary to maintain a force in readiness. ”
DC Military (7)

So Andrews AFB had at least two ‘combat-ready’ squadrons.

(www.dcmilitary.com is a private Website authorized by the military to provide information for members of the armed forces. Please see note just before “Footnotes.”)

Our research has been carried out mainly by volunteers. Newspapers and TV news departments have full-time research staffs. The important media have bureaus in Washington DC, just a few miles from the Andrews airbase. Why haven’t newspapers and TV news programs reported the truth: that Andrews job was to protect DC?

This failure is especially striking because some media did report that fighters scrambled from Andrews, but only after the Pentagon was hit. Thus they were aware that Andrews was supposed to defend D.C.:

For example:

” Within minutes of the attack American forces around the world were put on one of their highest states of alert – Defcon 3, just two notches short of all-out war – and F-16s from Andrews Air Force Base were in the air over Washington DC.”
–‘
Sunday Telegraph,’ (London), 14 September 2001 (8)

And:

“WASHINGTON – …an audible gasp went up from the rear of the audience as a large black plume of smoke arose from the Pentagon. Terrorism suddenly was at the doorstep and clearly visible through the big glass windows overlooking the Potomac River. Overhead, fighter jets scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base and other installations and cross-crossed the skies…

“A thick plume of smoke was climbing out of the hollow center of the Pentagon. Everyone on the train understood what had happened moments before.”
–‘
Denver Post,’ 11 September 2001 (9) 

And:

“It was after the attack on the Pentagon that the Air Force then decided to scramble F-16s out of the DC National Guard Andrews Air Force Base to fly cover, a–a protective cover over Washington, DC.”
NBC Nightly News, (6:30 PM ET) 11 September 11 2001 (10)

The media should have demanded to know the truth about why fighter jets assigned to protect Washington didn’t scramble an hour BEFORE the Pentagon was hit.

Besides fighters, tanker planes and AWACS were also readily available. (An AWACS is a flying communication center equipped with radar which can scan at least 250 miles. This is almost the full distance from the West-Virginia/Ohio/Kentucky border, where American Air Flight 77 turned around before flying back to DC.) Both General Myers and Vice President Cheney admit that these planes did not go into the air over Washington until after the Pentagon was hit.

Here is General Myers, testifying 13th September:

“When it became clear what the threat was, we did scramble fighter aircraft, AWACS, radar aircraft and tanker aircraft to begin to establish orbits in case other aircraft showed up in the FAA system that were hijacked.”
–Gen. Richard B.
Myers at Senate confirmation hearing 13 September 2001 (11)

And Richard Cheney on ‘Meet the Press’:

“VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, the–I suppose the toughest decision was this question of whether or not we would intercept incoming commercial aircraft.

“MR. RUSSERT: And you decided?’

“VICE PRES. CHENEY: We decided to do it. We’d, in effect, put a flying combat air patrol up over the city; F-16s with an AWACS, which is an airborne radar system, and tanker support so they could stay up a long time.” –NBC, ‘Meet the Press‘ (10:00 AM ET) 16 September 2001 (12)

As we shall see, Mr. Cheney’s statement that “the toughest decision was this question of whether or not we would intercept incoming commercial aircraft” is a lie. Publicly available FAA documents prove that fighter jets routinely intercept commercial aircraft under certain designated circumstances without requiring or asking for approval from the White House.

ARABS IN JUDEA EXPLOIT THE JEWISH SABBATH MORNING TO TORCH A ONE ACRE ORCHARD PLANTED 3 YEARS AGO

BIG BUILD UP OF FORCES AGAINST JEWS

 

THIS WAS A JEWISH ORCHARD IN JUDEA WHICH WAS TORCHED BY ARABS. BUT MORE THINGS ARE HAPPENING. THE JEWISH STATE IS ATTACKING JEWS AND IS MAKING DEALS WITH ENEMY ARABS, MUSLIMS, CALLED PALESTINIANS.

 

ABOVE ALL THE JEWISH ISRAELI ELITE ARE TELLING LIES TO JEWS, THAT THINGS ARE NOT SO BAD, THAT THEY WILL RETURN TO CAIRO ETC, ALL FORGIVEN, A NEW ERA OF HARMONY IS POSSIBLE, ALL OF THAT LYING BULLSHIT FROM REGEV AND NETANYAHU, ON THIS MORNING OF 9.11

 

September 20” came two weeks early Saturday, when Hevron area Arabs set fire to an olive orchard at Karmei Tzur in Judea, located between Gush Etzion and Hevron-Kiryat Arba.

Karmei Tsur, literally “Stalwart Vineyards”, is home to 125 families, and is part of the Gush Etzion Regional Authority. The word kerem (possessive Karmei) is used in Hebrew to denote both olive groves and vineyards, which surround the area from Biblical times.

Residents fear the arson is a harbinger of worse events when the Arab League presents its request to the United Nations General Assembly for recognition of the Palestinian Authority as a new country within Israel’s borders.

Arabs exploited the Jewish Sabbath morning, when most Karmei Tzur residents were praying in synagogue, to torch the one-acre orchard belonging to a farmer in the community. He planted it three years ago on “no-man’s land,” Karmei Tzur’s administrator told Arutz Sheva.

Community residents said the Arabs arrived in four vehicles from Highway 60, the main road connecting Jerusalem with Gush Etzion, Hevron-Kiryat Arab and communities north of Be’er Sheva. It is known as the Patriarch’s way, as it is the only passable route between the hills since ancient times.

The army inexplicably delayed its response, and soldiers were not able to find and arrest the arsonists.

Ten anarchists also arrived in several vehicles and tried to damage other Jewish farms, but soldiers dispersed them and prevented a clash with Karmei Tzur residents.

Spokesmen for Karmei Tzur said they spoke with the Gush Etzion brigade commander on the Sabbath, noting the gravity of the attack.

 

WHAT IS THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT OF NETANYAHU/BARAK DOING TO THE JEWS WHO ARE LIVING AND WORKING THE LAND IN JUDEA/SAMARIA?

 

SEEMS VERY MUCH AS IF THE JEWISH ELITE RULERS ARE DOING DEALS WITH THE ARANS, TO BETRAY ISRAEL, AND IN THEIR  TRUST FOR THE ARABS KNOWN AS PALESTINIANS, TO CREATE THE BASIS FOR DESTRUCTION OF THE JEWISH STATE. IN ESSENCE DESTRUCTION FROM WITHIN. BEWARE JEWS OF LIVNI, BARAK, NETANYAHU AND LIEBNECHT!

 

READ THE ABOVE REPORT AGAIN AND SEE THE CLAIM BY THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT THE ISRAELI SOLDIERS WERE LATE IN COMING TO SAVE THE ORCHARD AND ARREST THE ARAB TERRORISTS. WHAT IS HAPPENING?

 

SO READ IT WITH THE VIEWING OF THIS VIDEO (FIND URL BELOW AND THE FOLLOWING REPORT

 

Arutz Sheva comments: It didn’t have to happen at all, and it certainly did not have to happen this way. 

And what is most sad, is that Peace Now probably considers it a victory. 

But no one was the victor. Not the government of Israel, not Defense Minister Ehud Barak who hopes to get electoral points from the left, not the brutal policemen, not the right who justifiably villifies the Netanyahu government for letting it happen.

Everyone lost. No Zionist, no matter what side of the fence, wants to see what is seen on this video occur in Israel. Where does one start the litany of egregious crassness in the Jewish State?

All of Migron has been declared illegal by a recent  Supreme Court decision, with a date for destruction. The infrastructure there was built with government aid. Their research was either faulty or non existent.

Arabs had filed suit with the help and encouragement of Peace Now.

There was no attempt by the government to arrange payment for the land once the ‘problems’ came to light, although this is the way so much of Israel was acquired, because the Palestinian Authority, our “peace partners” have made that punishable by death.

The land was never worked or lived on by anyone. Some of it was parcelled out to landowners by the Jordanian government from its store of unclaimed properties. 

The suit by Peace Now was filed in 2006 — but the attorney general’s office never checked the claims on the land.

In October 2008, Palestinians aided by the leftist “Yesh Din” organization sued for damages from the state for delaying the removal of the town, and then the state actually responded that their claims to land ownership are not proven.

While the suit on all of Migron was pending, two Arabs claimed ownership of the land on which three houses had been built after the first suit was filed.

Theatre of the absurd: One of the Arabs involved in the suit claimed lot 7 was his and brought documents to prove it in court. The legal adviser for the Shomron (Samaria) Regional Council showed that none of the disputed homes was on lot 7 and the Arab withdrew his suit.

There was a government offer, when the problems surfaced, to relocate the community to a suburb to be built near the town of Adam. 

Some residents, including the Council for Judea and Samaria, felt that the government offer should be accepted if the government let MIgron stay as is until the suburb was completely ready for residence. Building would take years, and anyway, many things could change by then, they argued.

Other residents were afraid that moving any community would be a precedent for dismantling others. They did not trust the government to keep its promise. The offer for Adam was rejected. The surprise night destruction — after promises there would be advance notice so the children could be away from home (to minimize the trauma) — strengthens that point of view.

The court ruled that all of Migron, houses built with citizens’ hard earned money, is to be dismantled by a specified date in 2012, but someone in power decided to destroy the three last-built houses right away. 

Afraid of the reaction, the forces of destruction came by surprise in dead of night. 

So there were no provisions made in advance for shelter for families with young children before they were thrown out of their homes in the dark of night. 

No one in power cared about the psychological harm to the young Jewish children, who could not be sent away with the timing of the destruction  a surprise.

 VIDEO CAN BE ACCESSED ON INN PLATFORM, ON

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147707

 

ALSO READ THE ABOVE TWO REPORTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, WHICH IS ALL ABOUT THE PLOT AGAINST JEWS AND ISRAEL BY AMERICA, BECAUSE IT WAS AMERICA WHICH ENGINEERED THE BUILD UP OF ARAB POLICE FORCE AND ARMY, WHICH THE AMERICANS CALL “PALESTINIANS”

 

Report: Armed PA Police in Israeli Regions

PA police roam freely in Israeli regions of Judea and Samaria. Residents: They do what they want, IDF doesn’t interfere.
By Maayana Miskin

First Publish: 9/9/2011, 12:59 PM

 

PA police officer

PA police officer
Israel news photo: Flash 90

Many of the Israelis living in Judea and Samaria have long expressed concern over the Palestinian Authority’s armed police force, which is active in the region. This week, an alert resident captured armed PA officers on film as they drove through “Area C” – a region ostensibly under full Israeli control.

The officers were seen driving on the main highway in the Binyamin region. The resident who caught them on film is active with the Tatzpit organization, which documents Arab attacks in Judea and Samaria.

IDF spokespeople said in response that the incident was an unusual event, and would be investigated. PA officers normally only enter Area C in coordination with the IDF, they said.

Residents of the region disagreed. “This is not at all a one-time event,” one said. “The PA policemen treat the area like it belongs to them, and the IDF does not deter them.”

“They travel on the roads both covertly and openly,” he added. The anonymous resident expressed fear that “it’s only a matter of time until they pull out a weapon.”

Community leaders agreed that PA officers have been increasingly active in the area. “The Palestinian officers are brazen because the IDF relies on them to do the work,” said Binyamin Residents’ Committee head Itzik Shadmi.

The PA’s armed forces are responsible for enforcing the law in PA-controlled areas of Judea and Samaria, known as “Area A.” Among the laws they enforce are laws against selling land to Jews, or helping the Israeli army to fight terrorism.

PA police officers have a history of involvement in terrorism, and have murdered several Israeli civilians in recent

 

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147715

10th ANNIVERSARY, 10 YEARS AFTER 9.11, IT IS NOW HELL ON EARTH FOR ISRAEL AND ALL JEWS, AS THE NAZI HATREDS OF ANTISEMITISM SWELL

Tomorrow is the 10th Anniversary of 9.11

 

The Americans who were murdered in that horrible crime have had their memories betrayed by the American Governments since that fateful and horrific day.

 

And from 9.11 to today the Jewish people and Israel are facing a new Holocaust as a result of the policies of those American Governments

 

But it has got even worse with Obama in power, because the defeat of Muammar Gadhafi and of the Egyptian leader Mubarak, by Arab Fascism in league with NATO, has created the most dangerous situation for Jews today (more dangerous than 67, more like 33 with Iran nuclear Bomb threatening always).

 

That is combined with leaders in Israel, such as Livni, Barak and Netanyahu, who are unable to lead Jews to safety.

 

The stark situation today, just a day before the Tenth Anniversary, is that in horrific scenes of hatred towards Jews in Cairo, the Israeli Embassy in that Arab city is no more, sacked by the Fascists, the Egyptian army Leaders who betrayed Mubarak to the mob, unable to do a thing.

 

The attempt to demolish the wall came after an Egyptian Facebook group called activists to gather outside the Israeli delegation in Cairo and “urinate on the wall.”

Egyptian groups also called activists to spray graffiti slogans against Israel on the wall and erect a memorial for the soldiers killed during the attack in south Israel.

Egyptians demolishing wall outside embassy (Photo: Reuters)
Egyptians demolishing wall outside embassy (Photo: Reuters)

Eyewitnesses said policemen and soldiers stood by as the activists hammered away at the roughly 2.5 metres (8-foot) high wall.

Egyptian officials said the wall was intended to protect residents of the high-rise embassy building, not the Israeli mission.

Celebrating over the torn wall (Photo: Reuters)
Celebrating over the torn wall (Photo: Reuters)

 

So from 9.11 to today the Israeli Ambassador is out, forget gas, the Sinai which was supposed to be a buffer of sorts is now ultra-hostile territory, and that is just one source of the troubles faced by Jews and Israel.

 

Before looking at Egypt and Libya let us deal also with Turkey and with Iran

 

  1. Turkey is now turning into the equivalent 2011 style of the Germany of the 30s, they are the new Nazis as they roam the world stirring the pot of anti-Semitism, and Erdogan and his lies are the new Goebbels propaganda.
  2. The drive of the Iran jew Haters towards having the Nuclear Bomb is relentless

And that is the background to the 10th Anniversary for Jews and for the progressives of the world.

 

First post 9.11 Bush and the Neocons. Bush thought that they could bring their parliamentary type democracy to Iraq. In fact in the real world what they did do was to eliminate Saddam Hussein who was a secularist and they opened the door to Iranian influence in Iran. This was a great spur to Islam. Knowledgeable and fearful Jewish Israeli leaders like Sharon warned Bush AGAINST DOING JUST THAT.

 

The question is, did Bush realise what he was letting loose. He probably did not. But Bush is only one person and he is advised by thousands. They certainly did know pretty precisely what would be the outcome.

 

This means that the shadowy forces of reaction inside the halls and colleges of US Imperialism are indeed in an alliance with reactionary Islam.

 

IT HAD HAPPENED BEFORE

 

The alliance with Iran against Saddam was not the first time.

 

It had happened in Indonesia where the CIA had been very active with Islam and which led to the horrific butchering of the Indonesian Communist Party cadre, many peasants in the countryside villages

 

It was prefigured in all the events of the breakup of Yugoslavia when the Nazi past of leaders like Izetbegovic was obscured by the media and where the Media had put in place a hate campaign against the Serbs, centred on Milosevic and the hoax of Srebrenica, which goes on to today.

 

This has all led to the “Arab Spring” which is in reality the Arab Nightmare for the Jews and for all progressives.

 

The responsibility for this falls directly on Belman/Spencer/Geller and a thousand others, many Jewish, who did not set out in their campaigns to call for the victory to Mubarak and for the victory to the organization of Muammar Gadhafi.

 

By far the worst in this respect was and is without a doubt Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch.

 

This faux anti Jihadist never missed a chance to shoot down Muammar Gadhafi (and his colleague on Jihadwatch Marisol).

 

Spencer and Geller have repeated the phrase “We told you so” with every new advance by the Jihad.

 

Not true! Not strictly true at all! In fact they did not tell their followers that they must call for the victory of Muammar Gadhafi and for the victory of Mubarak in Egypt as the only way to stop the Jihad and to stop the threat against Jews and Israel.

 

Who else would stop the Jihad?

 

Worse as far as Geller and Spencer were concerned. Mubarak and above all Gadhafi were in open struggle against the Jihadist Muslim Brotherhood and had been for decades.

 

In fact Gadhafi even had concluded an agreement with Bush through Blair that he Gadhafi would fight the Jihad, Al Qaeda, and Gadhafi hated the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

So why not call for the victory to Gadhafi in this recent war?

 

This is a call that Belman/Spencer/Geller and a thousand other so called friends of Jews never could, did or will make

 

The other thing that Libya has proved in the recent 4 months is that the capitalist governments in Europe, and the Obama Government, are clearly obviously on the side of the Muslim Brotherhood and even on the side of Al Qaida

 

This explains a lot. It explains also for example why the BBC refers to the savages who attacked Jews in Israel on the border with Sinai last week as being “militants”. It also explains why the BBC Reporter Barbara Plett wept as she reported on the funeral of the Jew Hater Arafat.

 

The Jews have a history of being tricked.

 

I believe that they are being tricked today by these kinds of leaders, like Belman/Spencer/Geller…there are a thousand others, it is just that I am familiar with these.

 

I repeat that the key issue since 9.11 has been the war on Muammar Gadhafi because that shows the unity between Islam and modern capitalism in crisis.

 

They sat on the fence while this war was going on.

 

I personally will never forgive them for sitting on the fence in that war.

 

It is remarkable to me that left blogs like Stephen Lendman was closer on Libya to a correct policy for the Jews than were these.

 

And that is extraordinary, an extraordinary thing to say, because Lendman is anti-Semitic in his politics. I cannot tell you how much we oppose Lendman over Israel.

 

But on the issue of victory to Gadhafi against NATO he was closer to what the Jews actually need.

 

It is a twist of history which is almost a mystery, except that I think there is an explanation.

 

What has happened is that the Arabs and Anti-Semites have sold a false history of the Middle East which centres on the fake “Palestinians”. This history is full of lies which have not been answered in a practical way.

 

But that will be the task of 4international. Join us. Help us.

PERES MEETS SECRETLY WITH ABBAS “I WILL NEVER ALLOW A SINGLE ISRAELI TO LIVE AMONG US ON PALESTINIAN LAND”

PERES SHOULD NOT BE MEETING WITH THE HOLOCAUST DENIER AND JEW HATER ABBAS OF THE PA

Israel is in great danger from growing world antisemitism. The crisis of capitalism is driving Obama to move towards a Nazi type governance. The same crisis in capitalism has led to Qaradawi being supported by Cameron, Hague and Sarkozy, against Gadhafi and Mubarak. The same crisis in capitalism has driven Erdogan, the antisemitic leader of Ottoman Turkey, to make war on Israel in a way never seen since 1967.

But Netanyahu, Barak, and the whole of the Israeli political class do not address the danger. This refusal to address the great danger of war on Israel from many, many fronts, is expressed in these secretive meetings which Peres is getting involved with. Peres is a very, very proactive President and it makes one wonder was Moshe Katsav plotted against by Israeli traitors close to Peres.

File:Rice Olmert Abbas 2007.jpg

Always at one, Jewish traitors, US nazis, Arab nazis

 

(In Italy, a few days ago, secretive meeting)

 

THE NAZI DEMANDS TO DESTROY ISRAEL

Abbas has repeatedly demanded that Israeli completely freeze construction for Jews in areas east of the 1949 armistice line, including north, south, and east Jerusalem, and that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu commit to creating a PA state with borders based on the armistice line. Until those conditions are met, Abbas has said, the PA will not negotiate.

Almost no notice was taken of another pre talks decision that the PA chairman revealed, as he announced clearly that if a Palestinian Authority state is created in Judea and Samaria, no Israeli citizen will be allowed to set foot inside.The PA chairman also stated that he would block any Jewish soldiers from serving with an international force stationed on PA-controlled land.

“I will never allow a single Israeli to live among us on Palestinian land,” Abbas declared. Israel is home to a sizable proportion of Arab citizens, who have the vote and are represented by Arab parties in the Knesset.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/144731

 

THE WORLD ECONOMIC CRISIS IN CAPITALISM DRIVES THESE LEADERS TOWARDS FASCISM AND WAR

CRISIS IN TURKEY

Masum Turker, politician and former state minister for economic affairs, believes the possible economic crisis “became much more a political, rather than an economic issue for the government”.

“Private spending is now at the level of sociological madness,” he says. “The government remained silent as it saw the contribution this spending made to the economic growth.”

“This problem existed before the elections as well, but the AKP covered it over in order to win [the election],” he told SETimes, adding the government is now facing the consequences.

This content was commissioned for SETimes.com

 

 

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2011/08/04/feature-02

 

 

Meanwhile, some local analysts, such as Omer Faruk Colak, prominent economist and lecturer, believe that the global crisis has already arrived.

“The problem is very serious … Taking into consideration that as the EU is one of the biggest trading partners of Turkey [with 50% of Turkish exports],” he told SETimes, pointing out that a slowdown in the European market would slow Turkish growth and make it vulnerable due to its high external financing requirement.

However, of even greater concern is the current account-deficit which hit 37.2 billion dollars in the first five months of this year, a 121% increase compared to the same period last year.

“These [current-account deficit] numbers are worrying,” Colak says. “People should definitely save their money and the government, in its turn, must act quickly and more effectively to prevent the possible crisis.”

(ibid)

ERDOGAN KNOWS

Things are not resolved over secularism in Turkey. And that dammed world capitalist crisis…even antisemites cannot escape!

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2011/09/07/feature-02 gives a picture of the fightback by secular women in Turkey against the Fascist dress coders!

 

 

The newly empowered liberal feminist movement has had a series of political successes, directly contributing to the passage of the reformed penal and civil codes in 2002 and 2006.

Significantly aided by the external pressure of Turkey’s EU accession process, women’s groups “managed to create a fantastic political platform. They really learned professional lobbying tactics like email campaigns and demonstrations in front of the parliament,” according to Pope.

Before these changes to the penal code, Turkish women were legally defined in terms of family and society.

“Before, a crime against a woman was considered to be a crime against the family and community, not the individual. A judge might allow a rapist to marry his victim because then there would be no ‘crime’ since the sexual act was ‘legitimate’,” White says.

Perhaps, the biggest change was the liberal feminist movement’s adoption of a different attitude towards the concept of individual rights. There was a recognition that “they [liberal feminists] had to get there by organising, and that there should be rights for the individual. Yes, the state is involved, but they shouldn’t be waiting for the state to hand them their rights.”

Despite the successes, Turkey’s liberal and Kemalist feminists have had trouble accepting the platform of Turkey’s emerging conservative feminist movement.

WE SUPPORT MK ELTAD TO ADVANCE A BILL IN THE KNESSET TO RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE BY TURKEY

Flotilla activist

Religion of Peacenik on board the Turkish jihad warship  flotilla preparing to stab an Israel soldier, May 31, 2010.

 

The problem is this:

 

 

The leaders of Israel as are presently in power, and I emphasize the word “presently”, are not prepared to go on the offensive against Turkey, and against Obama, and against the EU, who all stand behind the Turkish hatred of Israel.

 

Israel should have allied in the most explicit and practical manner with Mubarak, it should have done so with Gadhafi from day one, and it should also now do the same with Assad of Syria, despite all foolish advice from people like Caroline Glick. Remember if Assad falls there will not be a single Catholic or Christian, or indeed Muslim Kurd, left alive in Syria.

 

But the Israeli leaders, like Gelelr and Spencer, when it comes down to the nitty gritty, have no boldness about them.

 

And as Gadhafi has found out and now rues, he who hesitates or double thinks, and trusts Imperialism, is lost forever. That is the great danger facing Jews, not the rightness of their cause, or having to convince anybody of their cause, but leadership which is decisive.

 

They have not really internalized the lesson of Gadhafi giving up his Nuclear Arms to Imperialism, in return (his rich children thought and convinced the old desert fighter) that a deal could be had with Imperialism and with Imperialism in alliance with ITS Jihad.

 

In other words nobody, from Geller and Spencer, through all present Jewish leaders, have internalized fully just how close is the connection and alliance between the US Government above all others, and the Jihad, and the Anti-Semitism which plagues the earth.

 

The book “Blowback” by Christopher Simpson, should now be required (not reading) but STUDY, because this book details how US policy after 1945 became Nazi policy also.

 

In other words Hitler was dead, but the anti-Semitism was carried forward by the newly forming (founded 1947) CIA and the American State Department.

 

The Anticommunism and the Anti-Semitism became deeply ingrained in American Foreign Policy from 1945 to the present.

 

It goes without saying that Anticommunism and Anti-Semitism are deeply connected.

 

(For proof of this deep connection between anti-Semitism and anticommunism see the extract we print at the end from review of book by Michael Kellogg)

 

The position of Aryeh Eltad is indeed praiseworthy, even though he does not go far enough and draw the most precise lessons from the Mubarak and Gadhafi debacles.

 

He speaks on Israel National News, an excellent resource:

 

“The law of reciprocity – and the ‘law’ of the Middle East – require immediate expulsion of the ambassador to Turkey, filing a suit on behalf of the commandos who were injured – and the State of Israel for expenses incurred – as a result Turkey’s negligence in preventing the flotilla from sailing illegally, and immediate cessation of the supply and maintenance of military contracts with Turkey “.

MK Eldad added that during the first week after the Knesset holiday he will advance a bill to recognize the Armenian Genocide by Turkey.

Eldad’s comments come on the heels of Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Devutoglu saying his nation rejected the findings of the UN Palmer Report on the 2010 Gaza-flotilla and would be downgrading relations with Israel, as well as ceasing military cooperation. He added economic ties might be downgraded as well.

Devutoglu reiterated the position of Turkey’s Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan that nothing less than a full apology by Israel, reparations for the 9 Turkish nationals killed during the IDF boarding action, and a termination of Israel’s naval blockade on Gaza would satisfy Istanbul.

The report concluded Israel’s blockade of Gaza was “legal and appropriate,” that the commandos were met with “organized and violent resistance” necessitating the use of force to defend themselves, and criticized Turkey for failing to stop the ships from setting sail in the first place.

At the same time it recommended Israel make ‘an expression of regret’ and compensate the families of those kills saying the level of force employed by the IDF was “excessive and unreasonable.”

It did not take into account that the commandos were armed with ‘pneumatic guns’ and live fire was only employed when those proved insufficient to dissuade the lynch mob that confronted them aboard the Mavi Marmara.

Israel’s Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu has said Israel will do no more than ‘express regret.’

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147482

 

 

This is the review extract mentioned above

 

Michael Kellogg. The Russian Roots of Nazism: White Émigrés and the Making of National Socialism, 1917–1945. (New Studies in European History.) New York: Cambridge University Press. 2005. Pp. xiii, 327. $75.00. 
With this fascinating, meticulously researched, and highly detailed new study, Michael Kellogg intends to fill a perceived gap in the historiography of the origins of National Socialism. According to Kellogg, historians have failed to do justice to the crucial influence of monarchist Russian émigrés on the development of Adolf Hitler’s worldview and political goals after World War I. Using materials in Russian state and military archives not previously accessible to Western scholars, as well as multiple sources from all the major German archives, Kellogg has written the first history in English of “Aufbau (translated as Reconstruction): Economic and Political Association for the East,” a secretive conspiratorial organization centered in Munich, manned and directed primarily by White Russian émigrés, and dedicated to the overthrow of both the Weimar Republic and the Russian Bolshevik government and the restoration of authoritarian or monarchist regimes in Russia and Germany that could form a united front against the Entente powers. Its leader, the Baltic German officer Max von Scheubner-Richter, and fellow-Aufbau member Alfred Rosenberg, linked the virulently antisemitic and anti-Bolshevik Russian émigré community with Hitler’s National Socialists in a symbiotic relationship. Kellogg carefully recounts the organization of Aufbau in 1921 as the center of counterrevolutionary activity shifted from Berlin to Munich, where the Kapp Putsch had been successful in installing an authoritarian government while it failed in the same objective in the national capital. Scheubner-Richter played a leading role in the planning and execution of the Hitler-Ludendorff Putsch in 1923, in which he was the most prominent of Hitler’s followers to lose his life. 1
      According to Kellogg, it was Russian and Ukrainian monarchist émigrés who brought to the Nazi worldview the apocalyptic, religiously inspired, antidemocratic, antisocialist, antisemitic conspiracy theory most dramatically manifested in the fabricated Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was widely disseminated by the völkisch press in Germany after World War I. Relying on the pioneering research of German scholar Michael Hagemeister, Kellogg refutes some details of the version of the origin of the Protocols offered in Norman Cohn’s Warrant for Genocide: The Myth of the Jewish World Conspiracy and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (1967), according to which the manuscript was originally written in French by operatives of the tsarist Okhrana. A compilation of fictional texts already published in Russian as early as 1903, the Protocols were brought to Germany by disgruntled Ukrainian monarchists in 1919. Their conspiratorial fantasies and rabid anti-Bolshevism merged with redemptive völkisch and Christian antisemitism to produce the specifically Nazi ideological brew. The advantage of a Jewish conspiracy thesis for the German radical right was that it could plausibly present communism as closely related to Western liberal capitalism, despite the fact that the victors of World War I stood in mortal antagonism to the Soviet system as well.

http://www.historycooperative.org/cgi-bin/justtop.cgi?act=justtop&url=http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/ahr/111.5/br_166.html

THE CONSERVATIVE STEPHEN HARPER IS A NATO MAN…JEWS OF ISRAEL BEWARE! HARPER IS NOT YOUR FRIEND AT ALL!

HARPER OF CANADA HAS JOINED IN WITH OBAMA’S JIHAD AGAINST LIBYA AND GADHAFI

 

QUELLE SURPRISE!

 

THE LIBYA ISSUE AND THE ISSUE OF DEFENCE OF GADHAFI AGAINST NATO HAS OPENED UP THE JEWISH MOVEMENT TO THE VERY CORE.

 

WE HAVE SEEN THAT SPENCER/GELLER HAVE IN PRACTICE SIDED WITH NATO AGAINST GADHAFI, REFUSING TO ISSUE THE CALL FOR THE VICTORY FOR GADHAFI AGAINST THE FORCES OF THE NATO/MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD…THUS MAKING THEIR 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF 9.11 REALLY MEANINGLESS

 

AND NOW IT IS HARPER SHOWING HIS REAL SOUL AS A PRO NATO MAN. IF JEWS AND ISRAELIS ARE WISE THEN THEY WILL CONSIDER WHETHER PEOPLE LIKE HARPER REALLY IS THEIR FRIEND. 4INTERNATIONAL ANSWERS IN THE NEGATIVE!

 

On a stop in Italy to praise Canadian troops on Thursday morning, Mr. Harper asserted that history will record Canada’s role in ridding the nation of Colonel Gadhafi. Hours later, meeting world leaders in Paris to plot the next steps, he joined other western and Arab leaders in promising a swift release of funds and continued military backing.

Mr. Harper said his government is immediately lifting all unilateral sanctions against Libya – effectively unlocking small sums for the transitional government – and is asking the United Nations to allow Ottawa to free up the larger sums frozen under international sanctions. The government said in March that $2.1-billion had been frozen, but did not respond to a request on Thursday for updated figures.

“One of the things we discussed today is the need for the UN to act because the vast majority of funds are there, and it’s time for the entire international community to support the National Transitional Council, which is obviously the legitimate government of Libya,” Mr. Harper said in Paris after meeting leaders from the Libya contact group, a 16-member committee of NATO powers and others involved in the crisis.

Britain, after receiving UN approval, said it is already releasing £1-billion (about $1.6-billion), the United States said it is releasing $700-million, and France said it is releasing €1.5-billion (about $2.1-billion).

The sums will likely be key to stabilizing of the interim government and financing basic services to Libyans while a chaotic civil war goes on in parts of the country. Libya has sizable oil wealth, so it is not likely to need massive financial aid over the long term.

Libyan-Canadian organizations and representatives of the NTC have for months called for Ottawa to speed the release of the frozen Libyan assets. In Ottawa, both interim Liberal leader Bob Rae and the representatives of the Canadian Libyan Council said the Canadian government was a step behind bigger powers – Britain, France, and the United States.

“They’ve always done the right thing vis-à-vis Libya, but they’re more cautious than the other allies,” said Sal Elgheriani, the council’s president.

And while the Canadian military involvement is so far slated to end on Sept. 27, Mr. Harper indicated that the Canadian Forces will stay until NATO ends the mission. The alliance has yet to signal when it will withdraw.

“We’ll be a part of the military mission until it reaches its conclusion. And as you know, while considerable progress has been made, particularly in the past couple of weeks, we’re not at that point,” he said.

That may mean that Mr. Harper’s Conservatives go ahead without the support of the opposition NDP, which has said it will not back another extension. Mr. Harper, noting the NTC has said it does not want foreign troops on the ground in Libya, again ruled out sending ground troops.

On his visit to troops at a NATO base in Trapani, Italy, Mr. Harper made a point of underlining the Canadian military’s role – six fighter jets that have flown about 8 per cent of the allied bombing missions, surveillance and refuelling aircraft, and a frigate to patrol Libya’s coast.

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-will-stick-with-libya-mission-until-its-done-harper-says/article2151027/

“SAY NO TO THE KOTEL”..WE BUILT A STATE, NOW IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE OF CONSCIOUSNESS”

Say ‘No’ to the Kotel, Temple Activists Urge

Temple Movement may adopt a new slogan – “Say ‘no’ to the Kotel” – because it wants people to say ‘yes’ to the Temple Mount.
by Gil Ronen

First Publish: 9/1/2011, 10:29 PM
 
Sign at entrance to Temple Mount.

Sign at entrance to Temple Mount.
Wikimedia Commons
 
INTRODUCTION…We on 4international agree with this campaign because the struggle is essentially between Muslims against Jews, and the intention of Muslims has always been to get rid of the Jews, as in Holocaust get rid of, and nothing has changed

 

The Movement for Establishment of the Temple will hold a Temple Conference and “Temple Feast” in ten days’ time, and it intends to adopt a new slogan – “Say ‘No’ to the Kotel” — that some will find provocative.

Yehuda Glick of the Movement explained the rationale behind the slogan in an exclusive Arutz Sheva interview. The Jewish people, he said, have gotten psychologically accustomed over the centuries to a situation in which they only had access to the Kotel and in which rebuilding the Temple seemed like an impossible dream.

However, the dream is more possible than ever and it is time to start thinking and acting differently, he urged.

“About 25 years ago we started to ascend to the Temple Mount,” he explained. “We were barely ten people. And now hundreds of people ascend. The question is, how do we create a consciousness that Jews on the Temple Mount are a natural thing.”

“The Kotel is the back yard of the Temple Mount,” he said. “The Nation of Israel returned to Israel ‘lehashiv et ha’avoda liDvir Beitecha,'” he said – quoting a line from the daily Shmoneh Esreh prayer in which Jews ask G-d to let them renew the Temple rituals.

Glick said that the press and the legal system should be used in order to change the way people think about the subject.

One hundred years ago, he added, the people who spoke about establishing a Jewish state were a tiny minority – yet this is what happened. “The chances for a state 100 years ago were much slimmer than the chance for a Temple today,” he said. “Of course one person cannot do this, so we have united – all of the bodies that focus on this subject and we want to tell the public – we built a state, now it is time for a change of consciousness.”

Some Jewish religious authorities forbid ascent to the Temple Mount, citing the Jewish nation’s current state of impurity. Others permit it within strict boundaries. Yet others set boundaries that are less strict, but none allow entry into the area where the Temple actually stood.

MY CHALLENGE TO PAMELA GELLER ON ATLAS SHRUGS TO MAKE DEFENCE OF GADHAFI AGAINST NATO CENTRAL TO 9.11 COMMEMORATION IN NEW YORK

I have made a call on the website of Pamela Geller for Geller and her associate spencer on Jihadwatch to change the direction of the 9.11 commemoration taking place in just over a week in New York

 

Naturally, and it goes without saying, I support Geller and Spencer in the organising of this commemoration.

 

There is a general weakness and confusion on this central point. To defend Muammar Gadhafi against the forces of what is an Imperialist Empire, which now is NATO in alliance with The Muslim Brotherhood, does not imply agreement on political programme with Gadhafi.

 

The defence is unconditional, and is the same kind of defence made by Leon Trotsky when he defended unconditionally the religious despot haile Selassie in Abyssinia in the 1930s against Mussolini’s invasion

 

But that defence did not imply that Trotsky was in agreement with Selassie politically speaking

 

This is not that easy a concept to get across but it is absolutely fundamental.

 

The url below which refers to the most recent article by debka will be most interesting to readers of this website.

 

We have always said that Gadhafi entered into a real agreement with Bush and Blair, and part of this was to fight the Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaida

 

Our point has always been that Gadhafi kept his word on this, Obama and Cameron broke theirs.

 

Also we make the point that this has got huge implications for Israeli leaders.

 

I have been reading the material put out by Pameal Geller. I have always admired Geller’s spirit in the fight against the erosion of the rights of Free Speech as contained in the First Amendment, and Spencer’sfight against the reaction of Jihad

 

But in their material published for the 9.11 Anniversary the issue of Libya is absent, never mind that they have never defended Gadhafi against what is in essence worse than the Jihad, it is the Jihad in alliance with NATO and the UN.

 

With great repercussion and implication for Israel

 

My comment on Atlas Shrugs is the following (For death of Gadhafi read death of Bin Laden…my error…typing too quickly)

 

 

Felix Quigley said…

The biggest issue at this moment is Libya. Before it was Ivory Coast. Before it was Egypt. Soon it will be Israel.

The issue of Libya is of the greatest importance because if the alliance of NATO and essentially The Muslim Brotherhood, as well as sections of Al Qaida, is allowed to go unchallenged then that opens the door for NATO power to be used against Israel.

There is an alliance on the ground as well as in the air over Libya between the terrorists of Islam and the forces of NATO, which are in terms of on the ground the men of the British SAS, the French Legionaires, and the US Seals

There is the rub, the same who killed Gadhafi, and even there, there is the possibility that Obama ordered it to bolster his image, although that is uncertain.

In any case it seems to me that the whole of the US and the European Media are hiding the reality of the alliance which their Governments have made and are making with Fascism in Libya

And this raises the possibility that NATO troops, which must have American Seals special troops at the forefront, will be used to enforce the “Palestine” State, which is the same really as this new state and states being enforced in Libya, Egypt, Ivory Coast, and many others

Gadhafi has been isolated completely by the anti Jihad movement

It was absolutely vital to defend Gadhafi unconditionally against the Fascist NATO in alliance with the Fascist Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaida

The following url deals with exactly the position which Gadhafi found himself. He saw NATO in alliance with his enemies, and in that situation he said “two can play at that game” and that was why he sent his son Saif to make overtures

I repeat Gadhafi has been isolated

It was not correct to say and to limit the taking of positions to “after Gadhafi it will be worse”. It was necessary to defend Gadhafi without conditions against his enemies.

That was not done.

In fact every attempt was made by JihadWatch to stick the knife into Gadhafi and to say there was no difference between Gadhafi and his enemies in Libya and in NATO. But there was a difference, all the difference in the world. Pamela Geller went along at least to some extent with Jihadwatch on this.

The url to look at in this regard is:

http://www.debka.com/article/21259/
While not implying political agreement with the political programme of Gadhafi at any time the defence of Gadhafi against NATO/Muslim Brotherhood must be placed at the centre of the rally being organized by Geller and Spencer on the 10th anniversary. It goes without saying that I support and defend Geller and Spencer on this rally regardless of other political differences.
Putting Libya, and the defence of Gadhafi against NATO, and against the NATO/MB Alliance, at the centre of the 10th anniversary, would help to expose better than anything else the real alliance which exists between Obama/Cameron/Hague/Sarkozy and The Muslim Brotherhood
But if that is not done the issue of 9.11 is removed from the real issue and struggle of today, and especially how the conquest of Libya by this reactionary coalition (Of NATO and Islam) can lead also to the conquest of the Jews and Israel by the same reactionary alliance

 

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/08/obama-aides-defend-911-talking-points-sioaafdi-freedom-rally-free-of-whitewashed-narrative-a-true-me.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015435073c6e970c