What to make of the debate last night between Obama and Romney (The second of 3)?
There was a real difference between these two US capitalist politicians and the difference is that Obama was proven by his exchange on the murder of Ambassador Stephens in Benghazi to be a total and practised liar.
As far as the economic crisis in capitalism is concerned neither had, have or will have an answer. We clearly are heading into dictatorship country, the forms of which (fascist, police State, Army Rule) are not yet clear to anybody.
Let us look at a couple of responses to this important debate.
The anti-Marxist and anti-Troptskyist organization called www.wsws.org wrote a treacherous piece saying there were no differences between Romney and Obama, at all. You can apreciate that this covers up for the lies of Obama on Stephens, which was the key moment int he debate. The wsws writes:
“A basic purpose of the spectacle was to create the illusion of fundamental policy differences between the two candidates and their parties, when there are none. The political differences between the Democrats and Republicans reflect secondary tactical differences within the ruling oligarchy.”
http://wsws.org/articles/2012/oct2012/deba-o17.shtml
By ignoring the lies of Obama on Stephens the WSWS are covering for this total liar, when workers and youth of America need to know about these lies.
If www.wsws.org is a Trotskyist organization then I will eat my hat because in order to discover the nature of the lie of Obama and the way that Crowley the interviewer was working to try to save Obama’s ass in this election WE HAVE TO TURN TO www.breitbart.com, which is opposed to socialism, but unlike these fraudsters of www.wsws.org does care about the truth, in politics and in life in general.
And Breitbart tells us:
“The lowest and most dishonest part of Crowley’s disgraceful “moderation” was when she actually jumped into the debate to take Obama’s side when the issue of Benghazi came up. To cover for his and his administration’s lying for almost two weeks about the attack coming as the result of a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video, Obama attempted to use as cover the claim that he had called the attack a “terrorist attack” on that very first day during his Rose Garden statement.
Romney correctly disputed that.
Crowley, quite incorrectly, took Obama’s side and the crowd exploded.
Here’s what Obama said that day:
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.
Context matters and the context here is that Obama connected this “act of terror” to … a mob action over a YouTube video — not a deliberate terrorist attack. Obama was using the term generically and it would be almost two weeks before he used it again.
Let’s not forget that Susan Rice said declaratively on the five Sunday shows four days later that it was NOT an act of terror.
And during those two weeks the Obama administration lied like a rug…The lowest and most dishonest part of Crowley’s disgraceful “moderation” was when she actually jumped into the debate to take Obama’s side when the issue of Benghazi came up. To cover for his and his administration’s lying for almost two weeks about the attack coming as the result of a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video, Obama attempted to use as cover the claim that he had called the attack a “terrorist attack” on that very first day during his Rose Garden statement.
Romney correctly disputed that.
Crowley, quite incorrectly, took Obama’s side and the crowd exploded.
(Article by John Nolte on http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/16/Crowley-Saves-Obama-with-false-fact-check)
SO WE HAVE CAUGHT OUT OBAMA LYING, AND I MEAN LYING BIG TIME.
To go over this again. the essence to remember is that the Obama team which included Susan Rice and Mrs Clinton as well as Obama, said that the murder of Stephens was the result of the film, that it grew out of a protest against the film.
That is what Romney was saying. Obama wanted to hide this record and in front of millions Crowley helped him to hide this.
The people in the hall swallowed this Obama lies.
But the political people, even people on pro-Obama blogs and other seasoned reporters etc. saw the lie and the inhustice immediately in the discussions afterwards.
Again www.breitbart.com tells the truth and the wsws tells us lies.
“***UPDATE 4: Politico’s Dylan Byers: “After the debate, even Crowley seemed to acknowledge that she had erred.”
***UPDATE 3: Even Politico’s Mike Allen is questioning Crowley’s call.
***UPDATE 2: Even Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler says Crowley got it wrong: Obama “did not say terrorism.”
***UPDATE: After the debate, Anderson Cooper was the first member of the CNN post debate group to question whether or not Romney really got the Libya issue wrong. They then brought Crowley on and after all the damage she had done during the debate, she finally admitted that Romney was “right” but “picked the wrong word.”
I also listened today to a report by Stephen Ritson ont he Talk Radio Europe show. Stephen gave a good report but missed the significance of these lies by Obama and seems not tol have understood the terrible role of the Obama team in the murder of the American Ambassador Stephens, which itself grew out of the failure of Obama to defend the Coptic Film Maker without conditions.
I am writing to Ritson so that he can put this oversight right.