ISRAEL TODAY URGENTLY NEEDS AN “RT” TYPE WEBSITE TO TELL THE JEWISH STORY

Leon Trotsky had alone in the world predicted exactly this, the Holocaust, in 1938 in a clear defence of the Jewish people…historical fact! The situation today has got definite similarities…

(Sinister examples (two) of Arab propaganda on an Irish website)

…That is right, justify killing those babies with drones and attack helicopers. Hamas are horrible but so is the IDF’s Ethnic clensing. Try not to be so one eyed.

Israel and Hamas – is there that much of a difference.

 

…Look at what Israel did to the Black Jews, Apartheid South Africa didn’t even try that.

 

It is a crazy pariah state.

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/gaza-israel-operation-protective-edge-1626623-Aug2014/

 

 

 

The crazy spelling is in the original. The names used are fictional anyway.

 

I do not totally blame them. Certainly I do not get emotionally involved. They are following a narrative, a story that they have been told. It was expertly told as many lies can be or there would be no successful conmen in our world, but as we have ALL found out there are. It is the “Palestinian Narrative”!

 

All Jewish people must be quite aware that this kind of propagandist Antisemitism is going on all the time.  What though to do about it?

 

Most will shrug their shoulders and see it as beneath them to give it a second glance or in other words accept (be complicit in a way) in it.

 

This goes on essentially because Israel has never created a true Hasbara (which means telling the truth about your history)

 

Without going into why Israel has never created a true Hasbara (emphasis on “true”) let us go on to place it at the forefront of our Trotskyist calls today on Israel.

 

Though not a Trotskyist (well he has never said!) Martin Sherman has made the same call for years. Others too.

 

In the present situation Israel should do only a number of limited things but do them decisively. In future articles we Trotskyists will elaborate on some ideas which we will seek to have discussed (not just among Jewish people either).

 

But today (one thing at a time) it is Hasbara.

 

In today’s world that means electronic. There must be a website that all people who want to know will go to and which is very significant in today’s world. I hate to use the example of RT but…

 

It will hit everything that is happening in the world and the Jews will take a position and that position will be known by all. It may be wrong at times but it will be a P O S I T I O N!!!

Striking while the iron is hot, and hitting all the news events in the world. Here however is the trick! Along with that there is an historical section, amd there is no disconnect between the two.

In other words the two (historical nd contemporary politics) are brought to the fore

 

No more of Sharon opposing Bush (on the 2003 Iraq invasion and deposing of Saddam) but sadly doing it behind closed doors.

Sharon was sitting on a gold mine and he did not realise it! He had completely the correct position on the Invasión by Bush and his NeoCons. It involved defending Saddam because Saddam was a bulwark against the Iranian Fascists who are now FAR WORSE!

But nobody knew! And to this day nobody knows!!!

 

Is Israel up to that? I am certain that it is. The reason I am so sure is because as an Irish person and a Trotskyist (or Marxist) I have a very good understanding of the broad outlines of the history of this nation called the Jews.

It is the same certainty that Leon Trotsky had in 1938 when he predicted in very clear terms that the Holocaust was on its way, and that by that late stage it was unavoidable.

A lot depends on this. I place the present situation in the same category (of very late in the day) as Trotsky did in 1938. There will be more articles where we will explain more

THE ELECTION IN ISRAEL IN MARCH 17 IS HOPELESS…IT WILL SOLVE NOT ONE THING

As an Irish person and a non-Jew I say that the above picture of the Holocaust is the real issue in this March 17 election

The website http://www.debka.com has pretty welll put an end to all discussion or speculation as to how the Israeli election on March 17 will go. Debka has summed it all up with devastating slkill. It needs to be studied and learned. It is the most devastating I have ever read about the Israeli political scene. There is not one sliver of hope provided by this truthful analysis. Debka has simply reported what it has seen. But this is important indeed. There is no need for any sixth sense in political life and political analysis. Just the five senses are enough

Of great importance is to understand, therefore:

Netanyahu is a busted flush. Netanyahu has spent ALL of his political credit when in his speech 3 years ago he went along with Obama pressure and called for a Palestinian State on the border of Israel and cutting into Israel. That was his Rubicon. That was the decisive point. It was just like the decisive point reached when Likud refused to EXPEL Sharon when he did not abide by that referéndum in Likud which opposed him withdrawing all Jews from Gaza. I think there are qualitative points in political life and struggle. These are such.

The others…Liberman is a crook and will do very badly. Who else …there are others I do not understand. There is a religious party called Shas which always votes for subsidies to religious (who do not work in general).

But for me the most illuminating is the role of Labour. The Israeli Labour Party does have a point in that there is huge inequality among Jews. Many Jews are living in poverty. The Gush Katif exiles still do not have settled homes and lives. But Labour does not understand…Jews are in continual danger of liquidation by hostile forces. That is the key thing for a real socialist organization like 4international. We do not turn aside from reality. You can talk about poverty sure but you must LEAD in the struggle against Arab Antisemitism and come up with real answers. Israel is threatened with its liquidation. THAT is the key issue. Labour do not understand.

start debka article

Israel’s electioneering politicians find little promise of changing government

 

DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis December 29, 2014

 

 

 

 

The highly-personalized campaigns for Israel’s March 17 general election are by and large lackluster while exhausting the electorate’s patience with patently drummed up scandals. On the traditional issues, no party leader can promise to alter the Obama administration’s views on Jerusalem, or break down Palestinian Authority resistance to a negotiated peace. Opposition efforts to prioritize social disparities, in place of the familiar security concerns or the Palestinian issue, fall flat, whereas chronic faultfinding over the soured relations with Washington has faded from op-ed pages and interviews since President Obama hitched his Middle East policy to the Iranian cart.

 The lack of political focus is reflected in the don’t care responses to the opinion surveys conducted privately by party strategists. The last week of December registered only marginal differences from the first, with one-third still undecided about their choices for the 20th Knesset and next government.

 LIkud, led by Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, is assessed currently as leading with 21-23 Knesset seats (out of 120); opposition Labor under Yitzhak Herzog and his new partner, former Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, falling back to 20 from a promising start; Economy Minister Naftali Bennett’s Jewish Home has reached 16 and set to rise; Yair Lapid’s Future, which debuted last year with 19 seats, has plummeted to eight.

 

Less than 10 weeks before the vote, no party has been able to electrify the voter – either by a thrilling message or a charismatic new face.

 

Herzog’s clarion call for “change!” and his decision to rotate the premiership with his new partner (if Labor is elected) were greeted with shrugs.,

 Moshe Kahlon’s new party “Kulanu” remains stuck at 8 mandates, more or less equal to Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman’s Yisrael Beitenu, which has taken a beating after a large group of its top people was rounded up by the police on suspicion of corruption crimes.

 

Kahlon, who tried headhunting former IDF generals with impressive military records to man his security ticket, found they lacked drawing power with the man in the street. One general after another was interviewed, only to prove he was no vote-catcher.

 

The ultra-religious Shas is split by the rivalry between its two leaders, Aryeh Deri’ and former minister Eli Yishay. Yishay broke away to form a new grouping and appears to have run off with most of the party’s hard core of 60-70,000 adherents.

 

The parties hit by the apathy sweeping the electorate turn out to be newcomers and veterans alike: Kahlan and Future, on the one side, and Yisrael Beitenu, Labor and Likud, on the other.

 The new parties were unable to grab popular attention by dwelling on the social gap and the proportion of poor families, and the well-established factions were just as unsuccessful in pushing forward national security. Inveighing against the Netanyahu for not getting along with Obama does not resonate, since the largely right-of center electorate sides with the prime minister in the falling-out

 

No Israeli politician can take the risk of siding publicly with Obama when it is clear that his Middle East policies and collaboration with Iran in the war on ISIS will gradually lead Iraq into Tehran’s clutches.

 

In an apparent mission to clear the air, Ambassador Martin Indyk, former US envoy to the moribund peace talks with the Palestinians, was in Israel this week. He explained to a number of figures and audiences that the Obama administration had secretly concluded a provisional deal with Iran that answers all of Israel’s concerns.

 He also presented the plunge in oil prices as the outcome of another secret deal, this one between Washington and the Saudis.

 Neither of these fictional hares ran far, as Ambassador Indyk found when he put them before the Israeli politicians he met.

 

As for the Palestinian issue, Mahmoud Abbas had not by Monday, Dec. 29, still mustered the nine UN Security Council votes he needed for tabling his motion to order Israel to pull back to pre-1967 lines within two years. His threat if this ploy failed to sue Israeli leaders and generals for war crimes before the international court was greeted by electioneering Israelis with a healthy dose of skepticism.

 In any case, Abbas’ diplomatic tactics are opposed by most Palestinian leaders in Ramallah.

 So, no Israeli politician with any realistic prospects is likely to stick his neck out to back Abbas, any more than he ventures to voice sympathy for Obama’s Mid East policies.

http://debka.com/article/24316/Israel’s-electioneering-politicians-find-little-promise-of-changing-government-

 

 

CAN THE WORLD STAND BY AND DO NOTHING AS HISTORICAL HERITAGE IS DESTROYED?

This is a terrific post which has great information about Islam and while there are a few things I would question, as a whole it is totally worthwhile to read and to store as a reference in future discussions:

The Destruction of the Middle East

By Denis MacEoin, GATESTONE INSTITUTE

We are living through ferocious times. Stories about the self-proclaimed Islamic State [ISIS/ISIL/Da’esh] abound in the media, in what has now become a daily round of beheadings, suicide bombings, and general mayhem from Nigeria to Malaysia. It seems that wherever there is a Muslim country, there is extreme violence. But one part of the Islamic State narrative has received less attention than the gruesome rounds of killings: the continuing onslaughts on cities such as Mosul, Aleppo, Raqqa and Kobani. The Islamic State and related movements have rampaged across parts of Iraq and Syria, destroying the entire heritage of ancient regions, demolishing historic churches, synagogues, mosques, Sufi and Shi’i shrines, and major archaeological sites. All this vandalism is driven by a relentless passion to enforce religious purity on the regions they now control.

Around the world, art historians, antiquities experts, and archaeologists scarcely dare open their e-mails every day, fearing loss of another irreplaceable site. Physical destruction in the Islamic realms has now reached proportions of the Mongol invasions of the thirteenth centuryosul, the Islamic State set out on an operation of “cultural and historical cleansing” across the city. The group deploys a unit called the Kata’ib Taswiyya, or settlement battalions, who are ordered to identify sites for culling. The unit razes to the ground any mosques, churches or, invariably, shrines that have been built over tombs; such places may attract devotees to pray in them, thereby creating polytheism — in Islam one of the crimes most censured. In addition, the painting or sculpting of the human form is anathema; if man was created in God’s image, to represent man is to presume to know God and therefore to diminish Him.

Graveyards are flattened, headstones are bulldozed, and statues of cultural significance to the people of Mosul are destroyed.

As we face the Islamic State and all the rapidly expanding jihadist movements in the Middle East and beyond, we are starting to recognize that airstrikes have only limited results. If we are to contain or defeat the adversaries in our midst, we have to understand their motivation, their psychology, and their sense of rootedness.

Politicians who proclaim that Islam is a religion of peace do us a disservice; Islam has never been at peace with the world around it. The Islamic State’s behavior is solidly rooted in Islamic ideology, law and practice. Only when this fundamental fact is grasped will we be able to address what confronts us. It is time that not only active jihadists, but their ideological sponsors in Salafi, Wahhabi, Mawdudist, and other classical and modern interpretations of Islam, be discussed openly before they do more harm. They and we do not have the leisure to wait until the oil money runs out and leaves the Saudis or Qataris weak.

 We must learn to speak the truth, especially in high places. In the tenth century, Islam abandoned reason and rational pursuits in favor of revelation and revealed law that could not be challenged. Ethics were defined by what Allah said was good or evil in Sharia law. Islam has remained frozen ever since. We cannot go on patronizing this, and nodding acceptance that Muslims know best. Very few grasp the quandary in which non-extremist Muslims, like their ancestors, are captured. Western rationalism, Western ethics, and Western standards of peace and justice need to remain, or the world we know could be trampled underfoot by men and women who prefer death to co-existence, and fundamentalism to tolerance.

There are many wise and sensible Muslims who favour a shift to a more updated way of thinking. Many cannot openly declare their thoughts for fear of reprisals and even execution; others are faithful Muslims who see a desperate need for a valid reinterpretation of their religion.

Today, such Muslims use the freedoms bestowed on them in the West to write, network, and debate their thoughts about the fundamentalist interpretation of Islam by the Islamic State, other Salafis, Wahhabis, Mawdudists, and all other clerics and extremist supporters of murder and destruction. It is their mosques and shrines and ancient monuments that are being crushed; it is their heritage — as much as that of Jews, Christians, Yazidis and Baha’is — that is being wiped from the pages of history.

Losses so far include:

  • The statues of Mulla ‘Uthman al-Mawsili (1845-1923), a famous musician and poet, of a woman carrying an urn, and of Abu Tammam (788-845), author of the celebratedHamasa, one of the greatest literary compilations ever made in Arabic.
  • The destruction of the greatly venerated tomb of ‘Ali ibn al-Athir al-Jazari (1160-1233), a major landmark that had stood in the centre of Mosul for centuries. Ibn al-Athir is celebrated as the author of The Complete History, one of the most important histories of Islam ever written.
  • The Islamic State’s destruction of the Tomb of Yunus (Jonah) Mosque, which was blown to pieces along with all its contents. Even before the explosion, fighters took sledgehammers to ancient tombstones in the building. The mosque was of importance not just to the Muslims of the city, but as a place of pilgrimage for Jews and Christians. St. George’s Monastery church, one of the oldest in the region, has also gone forever.
  • In Kirkuk, the Islamic State has destroyed the tomb of the Prophet Daniel, and in Nineveh, the ancient ruins of which lie across the River Tigris from Mosul, sprawl damaged archaeological ruins.
  • In Mosul, the 13th-century shrine of Imam Awn al-Din — with a stunning vaulted ceiling, designed to resemble a honeycomb, inside a pyramid-shaped tower on the banks of the Tigris, and among the city’s most precious sites — was one of the very few structures to have survived the devastation of the 13th-century Mongol invasion On July 25, 2014, members of the Islamic State reduced it to rubble.
  • In Tikrit, the city’s most famous and most beautiful church of St. Ahoadamah, known as the Green Church, dating from the 7th century, has been erased from history.
  • In Syria, the Jabhat al-Nusra’s destruction of the Deir el-Zour Armenian Church, that stood as a memorial to the 1.5 million slaughtered in the Armenian genocide in Turkey, was blown up.
  • In Mali, much of UNESCO’s World Heritage Site of Timbuktu (Mali) was destroyed during the battles of Gao and Timbuktu, fought between the National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad and the Islamist Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa between June 26 and 27, 2012. Afterwards, the Islamist group Ansar Dine went on a rampage identical to that of the Islamic State. An official for the group, Abou Dardar, boasted that “not a single mausoleum will remain in Timbuktu.”
  • Sufi shrines have been pulverized in Egypt, Libya, Mali, Pakistan, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco, India, and the Balkans.
  • In Bahrain, 43 Shi’i mosques and tens of other religious structures have been destroyed and damaged by the ruling Sunni government there.
  • Across Syria and Iraq, ancient archaeological sites have been wrecked. They were not just the heritage of those countries, they were central to our understanding of the ancient world, where human civilization first developed in city-states. Apamea, with its famous colonnade and beautiful mosaic, capital of the Seleucid empire, was a major center of Roman rule in the Levant, a leading city in Byzantine Syria, and at one time among the best-preserved archaeological sites in the region. Today, it looks like the face of the moon. Its devastation, the work of demolition done by looters using heavy earth-moving machines, took a mere four or five months.
  • In eastern Syria, one of the world’s richest archaeological remains, Dura-Europos, the “Pompeii of the Syrian Desert,” was obliterated. Remarkable finds had been brought to light: temples, wall decorations, inscriptions, military equipment, and tombs. It had been home to a third-century painted synagogue as well as to the oldest example in the world of a Christian house-church, which contained the earliest depictions of Jesus Christ ever found, dating back to 235 AD. The Islamic State looted the site and, as elsewhere, has apparently sold its treasure on the black market of the antiquities trade, presumably using the proceeds to inflate their already swollen coffers for the promotion of jihad.
  • Both Shi’i and Sufi shrines and mosques have fallen afoul of the Islamic State’s fanaticism. Jewish sites have been targeted so extensively that UNESCO has held aspecial session on threats posed to them. UNESCO’s Director-General Irina Bokova has described the Islamic State’s activities in this respect as “a form of cultural cleansing.” Many other Jewish sites were also destroyed or under threat from Islamist entities in Libya, where an ancient Jewish heritage was all but wiped out under the regime of Mu’ammar Qadhafi, and where what is left is succumbing to fresh attacks.

Locals survey the hill of rubble that resulted from the destruction of the Tomb of Yunus (Jonah), in Mosul, Iraq. The Islamic State blew up the tomb and mosque on July 24, 2014.

The Islamic State, however, does not restrict its demolition to Christian, Jewish or pagan sites. Its members have also evidently culled what may be thought of as their own heritage. In Tikrit, they demolished the country’s oldest Islamic site, the Arba’in (Forty) Shrine and mosque, where forty of the companions (Salaf) of the Prophet were buried.

In this, there is desperate irony, for the form of Islam followed by the Islamic State is Salafism, based on imitating the ways of Muhammad and his companions.

The heritage of centuries has been wiped out in little more than a year. There will be many who argue that this devastation is, at root, the fault of the West; that its colonization, imperial ambitions, and general interference have forced the people of the Middle East to rise up against Europe and America, and find their only solution in the creation of an Islamic state where Shari’a law will dominate and justice prevail. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Syria was never a French colony, but a mandate territory between 1922 and 1936 — fourteen years. Lebanon was a mandate territory from 1922 to 1943 — twenty-one years. Iraq was a British mandate from 1922 to 1932 — ten years. All were colonies of the Muslim Ottoman empire for centuries: Iraq between 1543 and 1918, Syria from 1516 to 1918, and were, before that, colonies of earlier Islamic empires from the Umayyads to the Abbasids to the Mamluks — and so on.

This alone exposes the reality, that the actions of groups such as the Islamic State have their true roots in Islam itself. The Prophet and his companions fought jihad wars and destroyed pagan idols as well as places they may have been concerned would become centers for cults. During the Arab conquests, many religious centers were destroyed, notably in India, where temples were looted and razed, and whole towns ruined by the Ghaznavids and Timurids.

Eventually the need to wipe out all traces of unbelief became more or less obsessive. At one time, for instance, Egyptian law demanded that any house found to contain a copy of The Apology of al-Kindi (a book containing a polemical dialogue between a Muslim and a Christian) would be demolished, along with forty houses around it.[1]

In more recent times, in 1802, during the first of the three Saudi states, Wahhabi armies attacked the major Shi’i religious town of Karbala in Ottoman Iraq, where they killed 5,000 inhabitants and destroyed the shrines of Muhammad’s son-in-law ‘Ali (the first Shi’i imam and the fourth Sunni caliph) and his son Husayn, the prophet’s grandson. The following year, Wahhabi forces under the leadership of the first Saudi ruler, ‘Abd al-‘Aziz, entered Mecca, where they destroyed tombs and shrines, and in the process, removed much of the city’s history — as is being repeated today in Mecca and Medina.

Between 1913 and 1927, extremist Wahhabi forces, known as the Ikhwan, rampaged through the Arabian peninsula, much as members of the Islamic State do now, killing and destroying anyone and anything they deem contrary to the Puritanism of their creed, which extremists interpret as preaching the annihilation of all that is not Islam.

Today, the Mecca and Medina of the first and second centuries of the Islamic faith have been all but wrecked, not by the Islamic State or any other radical entity, but by the Wahhabi Saudi government. Over the past two decades, major historical sites in Mecca and Medina, all related to the lifetime of the Prophet and shortly after, have been destroyed or disfigured to the point where neither city is recognizable save for the Ka’ba and the Grand Mosque in Mecca, and the Prophet’s Mosque in Medina.

Although much has been done to accommodate the increasing millions of pilgrims who go there for the hajj pilgrimage, most of the demolition appears to relate to a Wahhabi and Salafi fear that pilgrims may pray at the graves of Muhammad’s companions, at the house where he was born, or at other buildings associated with the first era of Islam. There seems to be an insistence that anything that might compromise God’s oneness must be eradicated, and this concern may have prompted the country’s rulers to destroy them.

The vast Jannat al-Baqi cemetery, which holds so many remains of Muhammad’s family, close companions and the earliest Muslim saints, has been levelled, and all domes and mausoleums turned to dust. That act followed earlier levelings by Wahhabis in 1206 and the Ikhwan in 1925. Those included the graves of the martyrs of the Battle of Uhud and that of Hamza, the prophet’s uncle and most beloved supporter. So too the Mosque of Fatima (Muhammad’s daughter), the Mosque of the Manaratayn (the twin minarets), and the cupola that marked the burial place of the prophet’s incisor tooth.

In Medina as well, the home of Muhammad’s Ethiopian wife, Maryam, where his son Ibrahim was born, has been paved over.

In Mecca, the house of his first wife, Khadija, the first person to whom he divulged his mission, has been turned into public toilets. In 1998, the grave of the prophet’s mother, Amina bint Wahb, was bulldozed in Abwa, after which gasoline was poured on it. There is much more.[2]

Destruction of the sacred places of rival faiths or denominations is nothing new; it has happened throughout history. Henry VIII wrecked Catholic abbeys and monasteries; their ruins still pepper the English countryside. The destruction of the Babri Mosque in Ayodhya by Hindus in 1992 led to two thousand deaths. The Roman demolition of Judaism’s Second Temple marks a watershed in world history and is central to the current conflict in the Holy Land. But the most consistent use of elimination through the centuries has been the Muslim war on non-Muslims. Despite much controversy, it has been claimed that over 2000 Hindu, Jain and Buddhist temples and holy places were destroyed by Muslim conquerors in India. Churches and synagogues have been demolished or converted into mosques in many places.

When Jordan controlled East Jerusalem between 1948 and 1967, all but one of the Old City’s synagogues was reduced to rubble or converted into stables and chicken coops; the main Jewish cemetery was desecrated, and Jewish homes destroyed.

Today, in Iran, the Islamic regime has demolished all the holy sites and graveyards of an indigenous faith, the Baha’i religion.

If the depredations of the Islamic State are to have any meaning in the end, perhaps it will be because they will have shown how right the non-extremist Muslims are in calling for a deep change within Islam.

Dr. Denis MacEoin, based in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, is a lecturer in Arabic and Islamic Studies and a Distinguished Senior Fellow at the Gatestone Institute.


[1] Robert Reilly, The Closing of the Muslim Mind, Wilmington, 2010, p. 36.

[2] Websites where readers can read of these destructions at length include: Irfan Ahmed, “The Destruction of the Holy Sites in Mecca and Medina,” Islamica Magazine; Laith Abou-Ragheb, “Dr. Sami Angawi on Wahhabi Desecration of Mecca: Developers and Purists Erase Mecca’s History,” Center for Islamic Pluralism/Reuters, 12 July 2005; Ziauddin Sardar, ” The Destruction of Mecca,” The New York Times, 30 September 2014; Carla Power, “Saudi Arabia Bulldozes Over Its Heritage,” Time, 14 November, 2014; Jerome Taylor, “Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam’s history,” The Independent, 26 October 2012; Jerome Taylor, “The photos Saudi Arabia doesn’t want seen – and proof Islam’s most holy relics are being demolished in Mecca,”The Independent, 11 December 2014.

4international our Trotskyist movement send greetings to our Christian friends fleeing from the Islamic State

Yazidis fleeing for their very lives in the face of the Fascism of this Islamic State. But this is indeed Islam and not as Steven Ritson of Talk Radio Europe claims “SO CALLED” Islam. The BBC is also using this form of relativism, To understand this better we have to make known the real history of Islam and how cruel Jihad was always at the centre of it along with Christian Hatred and even more Jew Hatred

Another victim of Islamic Jihad. A Young Yazidi girl. Of what use is Pope Francis to this Young girl. Arguably no use at all.

4international our Trotskyist movement sends sincere greetings to all our Christian friends because Christmas (building on the old Celtic Festival of the Solstice) is a time of real humanity, and of good wishes between mankind. We wish them all happiness and especially the Christians in the Middle East – we wish them most of all safety from the bloodthirsty Muslim Jihadists of Islamic State.

 

The BBC and Talk Radio Europe journalists like Steven Ritson call the Islamic State “so-called Islamic” State. But they are Islamic and if Ritson understood the history of Islam and not the whitewash history of the likes of Karen Armstrong he would know. But he does not know. So Ritson and Talk Radio Europe, now a branch or at least connected to the BBC, will all continue to whitewash this Fascist ideology of Islam and will work to prevent this truth from emerging.

 

We send special greetings to Pamela Geller and to Robert Spencer. Also to the folk at Gates of Vienna and to all of the Jewish sites especially to Martin Sherman and to Israpundit. I hope that there will be big changes in how Jews fight back against the growing Antisemitism in the world. We on 4international will be making analysis and proposals of that in the next week. Thank you for your support and for allowing Trotskyism to have a voice in this time of huge lies against Jews, also against Leon Trotsky and what he stood for in his time still relevant today!

PALESTINIAN ARABS UPROOT ISRAELI OLIVE GROVE

Palestinians, Leftists Uproot Israeli Olive Grove

(4international believes that these “Leftists” referred to in this article are not socialists but are Antisemites)

Residents of Elon Moreh say IDF did nothing to stop some 200 Arab and left-wing extremists from destroying Jewish-owned orchard.
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By Yishai Karov

 
First Publish: 12/22/2014, 11:26 AM
The uprooted olive trees

The uprooted olive trees
Samaria Residents Committee

Some two hundred Palestinian Arabs descended on a Jewish-owned farm near the Samarian town of Elon Moreh and uprooted dozens of young olive trees last Friday.

Local Jewish residents and members of the Samaria Residents Committee say they had been warning for several weeks of Arab provocations and riots in the area, and had turned to authorities – but to no avail.

One member of the Committee described the deteriorating situation in the area as akin to “Bil’in”, referring to the Arab village that is the scene of regular violent riots by Palestinian and foreign left-wing activists.

The Israeli owner of the olive grove in question told how he rushed to the scene and saw Arab and left-wing activists begin uprooting his trees, while IDF soldiers stood by and did nothing to remove them from his private property.

Residents say they had decided not to react to the Arab protest themselves, assuming that the IDF and security forces would deal with it appropriately.

“For three weeks already we warned that this (violent) phenomenon will keep increasing,” said Samaria Residents Committee head Sagi Kaisler. “The Palestinians have found a new area to protest and riot as they do every Friday.”

“Precisely what we expected happened, and we call on the army and the government to act firmly against these rioters and not to look away and do nothing. ‘The Israel Defense Forces’ – that is its meaning, and therefore it must protect the residents of Israel.”

AS A TROTSKYIST I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THE CONSPIRACY CRAZIES AND WHY THIS IS

Adina Kutnicki…excellent article by Adina on the role of the Israeli Government of Netanyahu in all of these affairs with Obama and American and NATO Imperialism is attacked by Israpundit regular commenter (url below) Bernard Ross. We will follow it. These pictures, a couple out of thousands, are strongly remindful of the Jihad against Bosnian and Yugoslavian Serbian Christians, a Jihad backed to the hilt by US and NATO, especially Clinton and Blair

Conspiracy thinking is not really thinking at all. It is the poison which eats at the heart of critical thought and real knowledge and learning. It is based on subjective idealism which can be defined as separating the ideas in people’s minds from the real world. The idea comes first, “In the beginning was the Word” that sort of thing.

Therefore I would advise people to begin to follow a debate which is now breaking out on the Israpundit website, that is http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63603324/comment-page-1#comment-63356000147623 and where I have thrown down the gauntlet to a noted conspiracy theorist calling himself Bernard Ross.

My challenge to B Ross who seems to be suggesting that Islamic State is some kind of conspiracy project (and which leads him to attack a very important writer who appears regularly on Martin DSherman Facebook is to begin with the following: (But warning do not expect a sensible answer to my question. I expect evasion and most like abuse)

 

 

B Ross writes:

 

 

You know I have never bought the story of the gulf arabs against (sic) IS (LOL) just like I never bought the GCC qatar split…. a shell game.

 

Can you elaborate on this?

 

Also you seem to be suggesting that Islamic State is a creation of the US and NATO.

 

But can you define what you think the Islamic State is then and if you disagree with the take on the Islamic State by people like Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller?

 

 

And while Muslims by the tens and even hundreds of thousands will march against a YouTube video, a Danish cartoon, the Jewish state, and perceived insults to Islam, they stay silent in the face of the most egregious Islamic supremacist violence. Silence is sanction. Why are they silent? Because it is sanctioned, commanded in the Quran and those who speak against it don’t have a theological leg to stand on.

 (shown is a picture) christianA woman walks inside a damaged church in Maaloula. The Christian town was attacked last spring by extremist forces. (REUTERS/Omar Sanadiki) – See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/12/the-islamic-state-isis-turning-churches-into-torture-chambers-selling-christian-artifacts.html/#sthash.ABJulc3q.dpuf

ISRAELI LEADERS ARE PARALYSED INTHE FACE OF ARAB AND WORLD ANTISEMITISM

Sharon expressed this paralysis. He knew that the removal of Saddam by Bush would usher in a period of Iran dominance in Iraq and the Middle East, knew this very well based on his experience of the area, he was no fool! But he could not say so in public even though he argued with the political imbecile Bush. That seems to me to express just how unable to lead the Jewish people are all of the Jewish elites today. This leadership issue is central and creates great dangers which will only get worse!

All my reading on this subject of Israel and the way the world is attacking Israel, demands the need for a strong propaganda-like response from Israel

 

That is not forthcoming and under the leadership of the present groups/parties/individuals/blogs will not be forthcoming any time soon, meaning never.

 

That is the problem, the central problem, that dwarfs all else and is connected to Israel taking effective action to defend itself, which also it finds itself impossible to do. The Israeli elites were prepared to look elsewhere for about 7 years as the people of Sderot were bombarded weekly with hamas and Islamic Jihad rockets. They could not and did not take any action to block this which amounted to a second class citizen ship in effect being placed on these people next to this aza border.

 

So we have two things happening in synchronicity: the message abroad from Israel and the inability to take action to determine its future. Both of these are held together in a vicelike grip that will not let go.

 

The development of the world crisis of the capitalist system, with money markets as we speak more and more on edge and seemingly more vulnerable, the exposure of the world and its people to new forms of barbarity by the likes of IS flashing across our screens, and the obvious vulnerability to this by Israel, while the world as Martin Sherman says so well, corners on Israel, thus forcing Israel more and more into a Samson situation.

 

These are not small issues and cannot be answered in a  facile way.

 

This places great demands on Israeli leadership.

 

Here is the kicker though. It is possible for Caroline Glick to be enraged at EU reps but at the same time not to deal with the overall crisis in a comprehensive manner. (I am all for being enraged but rage in itself, like prayer, is never a strategy)

 

I will give two examples that point to the new aspect to the situation faced by Jews, Israel and the world.

 

  1. The methods of Netanyahu, ignoring then massive physical splurge on Gaza (Protective Edge) (Which episode in history has given no edge and which therefore was not protective) while at the same time tying the hands of the soldiers fighting in Gaza, have proved to be disastrously inadequate
  2. Related to that the reality in Britain, which I have looked at especially based on written reports, which were available and have been available but have not been discussed in any significant manner, that the old methods of defending Israel abroad have collapsed. I am referring to the bankrupt “friends” of Israel concept. I have showed that the “friends” quickly became the “enemies” as they effectively voted (many by abstaining) for a Palestine Jihad state. (Vote in Britain October 13)

Those two examples in our very recent past shows that there is needed an overall strategy for Israel, Jews and the rest of us, to fight this war and it simply is not there.

 

I think that is the starting point. The Antisemitic positions of European elites are just a symptom of this lack of strategy by the Israeli leaders. They are created because the Israeli leadership is vacuum territory.

 

It is impossible for Israel because there is no clear strategy inside of Israel on how it can defend itself and how the Jewish state can be brought forward in this situation. I need to return to that but the answer by Sherman to Bennett’s Saban tussle with Idyke is a starting point.

 

The leaders are paralysed because they do not know what to do and if they do not know what to do then they do not know what to say either

 

That may sound simplistic but it is true

THE PALESTINIAN ARAB STATE NARRATIVE HAS BEEN SOLD IN BRITIAN UNCHALLENGED…THE FARCE OF “FRIENDS” OF ISRAEL WELL EXPOSED BY THIS VOTE

Buchenwald Survivors Aboard the Illegal Immigrant Ship ‘Meteora’, Haifa, Israel. The British had stopped immigration (White Paper 1939 in British Parliament) into the Jewish Homeland which led directly to the murder of 6 millions of Jews by the Nazis. The British were thus involved also in the Holocaust – accomplices of the Nazis in the Holocaust. Now the British through this vote to recognize “Palestine” are setting up the Jews again and placing the Jews of the world in great danger.

EVEN THOUGH THIS REPORT BY “PALESTINE BRIEFING” IS HOSTILE TO ISRAEL THE TRUTH COMES OUT ABOUT “FRIENDS OF ISRAEL!

Analysis by a group (actually hostile to Israel) http://palestinebriefing.org/tag/lfpme/ contained vital information about the vote in Britain for a Palestinian Arab state

This shows that the Palestinian Arab Narrative has been sold skilfully and in a vacuum of leadership has become a major factor in Britain. It also shows very clearly that the “Labour Friends of Israel” and the “Conservative Friends of Israel” concept and practise is a complete fraud and has totally let down the Jews and Israel at the very moment when it counted. At that very critical moment the “Friends” either stayed away or if “Palestine Briefing” is to believed and I think they have to be THEY VOTED FOR THE PALESTINIAN JIHAD STATE

This therefore raises the issue that Maureen Lipman articulates…that the Labour Party is Antisemitic through and through. Maureen will vote for an alternative but in Britain she cannot find one. Note that the UKIP two members of Parliament Carswell and Reckless stayed away – they abstained on this vital issue concerning Jews and Israel

(Excerpts from “Palestine Briefing” article)

MPs voted in favour of the UK recognising Palestine by an unexpectedly large majority of 262 after a five-hour Commons debate called by Easington MP Grahame Morris. Commentators were quick to dismiss it as “merely an expression of Parliament’s view” that will not commit the Government because it was “only” a backbench debate.

But although the vote is not binding on the Government, it is clear that MPs have changed their views and it is only a matter of time before the Government will have to change its policies. And, although recognition is a minor issue and will not directly affect the lives of Palestinians, there is a good chance that this decisive vote will lead to stronger steps that will begin to put real pressure on the Israelis. The 274-12 vote came about because of a deep underlying shift in MPs’ attitudes to Israel, caused by their shock at the brutality of the Gaza war and their huge postbags of letters from constituents demanding action.

It emerges from the vote that:

◾Half the MPs listed as supporters of Labour Friends of Israel voted in favour of recognising Palestine despite last-minute pleas from senior Israeli politicians to vote against.

◾40 Conservative MPs – including some members of Conservative Friends of Israel – backed the recognition motion and the Conservative Home website reported that ‘support for Israel is slipping away’…

If the two ‘no’ tellers are included there were 195 Labour MPs voting for recognition – more than twice the current total of MPs who support Labour Friends of Palestine & the Middle East. While it has been Labour Party policy since 2011 to support the recognition of Palestine, first by the UN and now by the UK, there was no obligation on MPs to turn up for a backbench debate and the numbers were another indication of the rapid fall-off in uncritical support for Israel on the Labour benches. Coalition ministers were told to abstain, but Conservative and Liberal-Democrat MPs were free to vote as they liked.

The real surprise was the number of Conservatives who abstained because they were disillusioned by recent actions of the Israeli government. Typical was the distinguished chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee Sir Richard Ottaway who told the Commons that he had stood by Israel through thick and thin for 20 years but was outraged by the recent Israeli annexation of Palestinian land and “such is my anger over Israel’s behaviour in recent months that I will not oppose the motion”.

It was the highest ever attendance at a backbench debate (other than the European referendum debate which was whipped) and out of a total of 43 speeches, only six were from opponents of recognition, with the result that Conservative MPs who have previously been reluctant to express their support for the Palestinian case spoke with passion and eloquence, as though a gag had been removed.

In the event there were 195 Labour MPs supporting the motion, 40 Conservatives, 28 Liberal Democrats, nine Scottish and Welsh nationalists and four Northern Irish (2 SDLP, 1 Independent, 1 Alliance). The noes were six Conservatives, five Ulster Unionists and one Liberal Democrat. Other than the 140 MPs on the “payroll” vote of ministers and ministerial aides who are expected to abstain in backbench debates, the number of MPs who abstained or were absent was 220.  Even if they had all voted ‘no’ (and a number have said they would have voted ‘yes’ but could not be there) opponents of recognition would still have had only 232 votes against the 278 votes in favour of recognition…

Baroness Warsi, who resigned from the Government in August in protest at the strongly pro-Israeli policy, said at the time that many of her ministerial colleagues and most of the officials in the Foreign Office agreed with her, but policy came from a small group at the top. There was a natural majority not only in the country, but also in Parliament and in the Foreign Office for the recognition of Palestine, but “you’ve a small group of politicians who are keeping a close grip on this and who are not allowing public opinion, ministerial views, parliamentary views and the views of the people who work in this system.”

ADDITIONAL NOTE

An article in the New York Times gave an interesting insight into how Muslim immigration has played a big role in these opportunist Labour Politicians position towards the Jews of today.

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His father, the prominent Marxist historian Ralph Miliband, arrived in Britain in 1940 on one of the last boats transporting Jewish refugees from Belgium. Mr. Miliband’s mother followed in 1947 having spent World War II living under an assumed name in Belgium while other family members perished in the Holocaust.

Last year that family story became a public issue when Mr. Miliband accused The Daily Mail of lying about his father after the newspaper used the headline “The man who hated Britain” for an article focusing on his left-wing beliefs.

According to those close to Mr. Miliband, he has taken a growing interest in his family history, and the visit to Israel was intended both to underscore his interest in the Middle East as a geopolitical issue and to show the public more about his family background.

In a subsequent speech in June to a party group called Labour Friends of Israel, Mr. Miliband described settlement building in the occupied territories as “a significant threat to a negotiated agreement,” and emphasized his support for a two-state solution. But he also recounted his visit in emotional terms and emphasized his attachment to Israel.

“I want you to know,” he concluded, “that if I become prime minister in less than a year’s time, I will be proud to do so as a friend of Israel, a Jew and, most of all, someone who feels so proud to be part of the community gathered here.”

With the visit and speech, Mr. Miliband seemed to be reaching out to the Jewish population, according to Mr. Pollard, one reason for the dismay felt by some at Mr. Miliband’s comments over Gaza.

Yet neither his family background nor Labour Party politics suggest that Mr. Miliband was ever likely to shrink from criticizing Israel when he disagreed with its government’s policies.

His mother, Marion Kozak, is a signatory of Jews for Justice for Palestinians, which describes itself as a network of Jews who are British or live in Britain and who “oppose Israeli policies that undermine the livelihoods, human, civil and political rights of the Palestinian people.”

Many Labour lawmakers worry about the plight of the Palestinians, and some represent constituencies with large Muslim populations, which could be crucial in the May general election.

Some, including Grahame Morris, a lawmaker who leads a group called Labour Friends of Palestine and the Middle East, want tougher policies against Israel.

Mr. Morris said he was “proud of Ed when he opposed Israel’s summer assault on Gaza,” but added that “there is still plenty of room for improvement” in policies and called for a “ban on trade and investment with illegal settlements in the Palestinian territories.”

Meanwhile, the junior partner in the current Conservative Party-led coalition government, the Liberal Democrats, has also been critical of Israel’s policy in Gaza.

“There is competition for Labour and Liberal Democrat voters on the center-left, and for Muslim votes, and both constituencies are much more sympathetic to the Palestinian cause,” said Toby Greene, research director for the British Israel Communications and Research Center, which aims to promote ties between Israel and Britain.

But, while there is political logic in hardening his rhetoric, Mr. Miliband may have used this tougher tone to keep internal divisions under control without actually toughening party policy against Israel.

Labour has consistently supported the principle of recognizing statehood for the Palestinians, and it was Mr. Morris — the backbench lawmaker — not Mr. Miliband who secured the recent nonbinding parliamentary resolution backing recognition of a Palestinian state.

Official pronouncements kept open the timing of recognition if Labour comes to power next year.

A version of this article appears in print on October 24, 2014, on page A14 of the New York edition with the headline: British Labour Chief, a Jew Who Criticizes Israel, Walks a Fi

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/world/europe/milibands-embrace-of-jewish-heritage-complicates-criticism-of-israel-.html?_r=1

Just a note of caution on the New York Times reference to Ralph Milliband, the father of Ed Milliband, present leader of Labour. They refer to him as a “Marxist”. This is certainly not accurate. There has been no Marxist Party in Britain for a century. This is the whole point of the present atrocious situation where a lying versión of history, hiding the role of the Nazi Hajj Amin el Husseini who was the founder of the Palesinian Arab concept, that is his role in the Holocaust. Those like Healy, Redgrave, Cliff, Grant, Pablo and Mendel were not Trotskyists in any way, and then there was the deathly role of Stalinism (The British CP) as well in the selling of this Big Lie of the “Palestinians” which has virtually liquidated left wing politics in Britain…In other words there is a vacuum of leadership, hence the serious quandary of people like Maureen Lipman!

VOTE SHOWED THE BRITISH LABOUR PARTY IS AN ANTISEMITIC PARTY – END OF STORY!

The socialist party which Keir Hardie founded is now no more and is replaced by a deeply Antisemitic Party which is British Labour today – our analysis of the vote proves that beyond any argument

I lay the charge that the British Labour Party is a party of Antisemitism, an Antisemitic political party, and with that in mind and as an historical record this is how the vote went on October 13, 2014

There is not ONE Labour MP to vote against this motion. Thus the Israeli Friends of Israel is a total fraud and they are as deeply Antisemitic as is their party – the Labour Party of not so “Great” Britain (Felix Quigley)

We have tracked down the voting record of the MPs of Britain and it shows that NOT ONE Labour MP voted against the Palestine State. Repeat NOT ONE! That includes above all the so called “Labour Friends of Israel”.

(Warning it is a long list and you do not have to memorise it! But it is a record especially at the end where the MPs who voted against are listed, 14 in number I think, not one of whom is a Labourite!)

Division No. 54]

 

9.58 pm

AYES

Abbott, Ms Diane

Abrahams, Debbie

Ainsworth, rh Mr Bob

Alexander, rh Mr Douglas

Alexander, Heidi

Ali, Rushanara

Allen, Mr Graham

Anderson, Mr David

Ashworth, Jonathan

Bacon, Mr Richard

Bailey, Mr Adrian

Bain, Mr William

Baker, Steve

Banks, Gordon

Barron, rh Kevin

Beckett, rh Margaret

Begg, Dame Anne

Benn, rh Hilary

Benyon, Richard

Betts, Mr Clive

Birtwistle, Gordon

Blackman-Woods, Roberta

Blenkinsop, Tom

Blomfield, Paul

Bottomley, Sir Peter

Bradshaw, rh Mr Ben

Brennan, Kevin

Bridgen, Andrew

Brooke, rh Annette

Brown, Lyn

Brown, Mr Russell

Bruce, rh Sir Malcolm

Bryant, Chris

Buck, Ms Karen

Burden, Richard

Burnham, rh Andy

Byrne, rh Mr Liam

Campbell, rh Mr Alan

Campbell, rh Sir Menzies

Campbell, Mr Ronnie

Carmichael, Neil

Caton, Martin

Champion, Sarah

Chapman, Jenny

Clark, Katy

Clarke, rh Mr Tom

Coaker, Vernon

Connarty, Michael

Cooper, Rosie

Cooper, rh Yvette

Creasy, Stella

Crockart, Mike

Crouch, Tracey

Cruddas, Jon

Cryer, John

Cunningham, Mr Jim

Cunningham, Sir Tony

Curran, Margaret

Dakin, Nic

Danczuk, Simon

David, Wayne

Davidson, Mr Ian

Davies, David T. C.

(Monmouth)

Davies, Geraint

De Piero, Gloria

Denham, rh Mr John

Dobson, rh Frank

Docherty, Thomas

Donohoe, Mr Brian H.

Doran, Mr Frank

Doughty, Stephen

Dowd, Jim

Doyle, Gemma

Dromey, Jack

Duncan, rh Sir Alan

Durkan, Mark

Eagle, Ms Angela

Eagle, Maria

Edwards, Jonathan

Efford, Clive

Elliott, Julie

Esterson, Bill

Evans, Chris

Farrelly, Paul

Field, rh Mr Frank

Fitzpatrick, Jim

Flello, Robert

Flint, rh Caroline

Flynn, Paul

Fuller, Richard

Gapes, Mike

Garnier, Sir Edward

George, Andrew

Gillan, rh Mrs Cheryl

Gilmore, Sheila

Glindon, Mrs Mary

Goodman, Helen

Greatrex, Tom

Green, Kate

Greenwood, Lilian

Grieve, rh Mr Dominic

Griffith, Nia

Hames, Duncan

Hamilton, Mr David

Hancock, Mr Mike

Hanson, rh Mr David

Harman, rh Ms Harriet

Harvey, Sir Nick

Healey, rh John

Heath, Mr David

Hemming, John

Hendrick, Mark

Hepburn, Mr Stephen

Hermon, Lady

Heyes, David

Hillier, Meg

Hilling, Julie

Hodgson, Mrs Sharon

Hollobone, Mr Philip

Holloway, Mr Adam

Hood, Mr Jim

Hopkins, Kelvin

Horwood, Martin

Hosie, Stewart

Howarth, rh Mr George

Hunter, Mark

Huppert, Dr Julian

Irranca-Davies, Huw

Jackson, Glenda

Jamieson, Cathy

Jarvis, Dan

Johnson, Diana

Jones, rh Mr David

Jones, Graham

Jones, Mr Kevan

Jones, Susan Elan

Kane, Mike

Kaufman, rh Sir Gerald

Keeley, Barbara

Khan, rh Sadiq

Latham, Pauline

Lavery, Ian

Lazarowicz, Mark

Leech, Mr John

Leigh, Sir Edward

Leslie, Charlotte

Leslie, Chris

Lewell-Buck, Mrs Emma

Liddell-Grainger, Mr Ian

Lilley, rh Mr Peter

Llwyd, rh Mr Elfyn

Long, Naomi

Loughton, Tim

Love, Mr Andrew

Lucas, Caroline

Lucas, Ian

Lumley, Karen

MacNeil, Mr Angus Brendan

Mactaggart, Fiona

Mahmood, Mr Khalid

Mahmood, Shabana

Main, Mrs Anne

Malhotra, Seema

Marsden, Mr Gordon

McCabe, Steve

McCarthy, Kerry

McCartney, Jason

McClymont, Gregg

McDonagh, Siobhain

McDonald, Andy

McDonnell, John

McGovern, Jim

McInnes, Liz

McKechin, Ann

McKenzie, Mr Iain

McKinnell, Catherine

Meacher, rh Mr Michael

Mearns, Ian

Menzies, Mark

Miliband, rh Edward

Miller, Andrew

Moon, Mrs Madeleine

Moore, rh Michael

Morden, Jessica

Morrice, Graeme

(Livingston)

Morris, Grahame M.

(Easington)

Mudie, Mr George

Mulholland, Greg

Murray, Ian

Nandy, Lisa

Nash, Pamela

O’Donnell, Fiona

Ollerenshaw, Eric

Onwurah, Chi

Osborne, Sandra

Owen, Albert

Perkins, Toby

Phillipson, Bridget

Pound, Stephen

Pugh, John

Qureshi, Yasmin

Raynsford, rh Mr Nick

Reed, Mr Jamie

Reid, Mr Alan

Reynolds, Emma

Riordan, Mrs Linda

Ritchie, Ms Margaret

Robathan, rh Mr Andrew

Robertson, Angus

Robertson, rh Sir Hugh

Robertson, Mr Laurence

Rotheram, Steve

Roy, Mr Frank

Roy, Lindsay

Ruane, Chris

Ruddock, rh Dame Joan

Russell, Sir Bob

Sanders, Mr Adrian

Sarwar, Anas

Sawford, Andy

Seabeck, Alison

Sharma, Mr Virendra

Sheerman, Mr Barry

Sheridan, Jim

Shuker, Gavin

Skinner, Mr Dennis

Slaughter, Mr Andy

Smith, Angela

Smith, Nick

Smith, Owen

Smith, Sir Robert

Soames, rh Sir Nicholas

Stephenson, Andrew

Stewart, Bob

Straw, rh Mr Jack

Stuart, Ms Gisela

Stunell, rh Sir Andrew

Sutcliffe, Mr Gerry

Swales, Ian

Tami, Mark

Teather, Sarah

Thomas, Mr Gareth

Thornberry, Emily

Thornton, Mike

Timms, rh Stephen

Trickett, Jon

Turner, Mr Andrew

Turner, Karl

Twigg, Derek

Twigg, Stephen

Umunna, Mr Chuka

Vaz, rh Keith

Vaz, Valerie

Vickers, Martin

Walley, Joan

Ward, Mr David

Watts, Mr Dave

Weir, Mr Mike

Wharton, James

White, Chris

Whiteford, Dr Eilidh

Whitehead, Dr Alan

Williams, Hywel

Williams, Mr Mark

Williams, Roger

Williamson, Chris

Wilson, Phil

Winnick, Mr David

Winterton, rh Ms Rosie

Wishart, Pete

Wollaston, Dr Sarah

Wright, David

Wright, Mr Iain

Yeo, Mr Tim

Tellers for the Ayes:

Alex Cunningham

and

Crispin Blunt

NOES

Beith, rh Sir Alan

Blackman, Bob

Djanogly, Mr Jonathan

Dodds, rh Mr Nigel

Freer, Mike

McCrea, Dr William

Mills, Nigel

Offord, Dr Matthew

Paisley, Ian

Shannon, Jim

Simpson, David

Syms, Mr Robert

That this House believes that the Government should recognise the state of Palestine alongside the state of Israel, as a contribution to securing a negotiated two state solution.

The following interlude proves there are no bounds to British elitist hypocrisy. No ends to Corbyn’s ability to insult Jews!

Jeremy Corbyn (Islington North) (Lab): On a point of order, Mr Speaker. The House has voted emphatically tonight to support the recognition of the Palestinian state. That is good news, which will be well received by many people, and we should bear witness to those thousands who marched and demonstrated and those thousands who e-mailed us.

If I may, I will briefly explain why I and my hon. Friend the Member for Batley and Spen (Mike Wood) were tellers for a position that we do not actually hold. It was to ensure that democracy could take place and that Members could record their vote, because those who were opposed to the motion declined to put up tellers. We have thus ensured democracy here tonight. The constituents whom we all represent will be able to see what influence they were able to have on their Members of Parliament, ensuring that this historic vote took place.

Mr Speaker: Residents of Islington North and the nation at large are now fully apprised of the motivation of the hon. Gentleman and of his colleague. I thank him.

IRISH DAIL VOTE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS A DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST THE JEWS AND ISRAEL MUST ANSWER BY FIGHTING FOR ULSTER INDEPENDENCE

I oppose totally the vote in the Irish Dail on Wednesday night last to recognise a Palestine State. Why is this such a big issue anyway? It is big because it gives power to a major lie that has hit humanity in general. That is that there are a people called the Palestinians and that they have always existed. The reality and answer to this lie is that up until 1948 the Arabs in Palestine were not calling themselves “Palestinians” at all and did not even like to be called that name or anything to do with “Palestine”. The ONLY people calling themselves that were Jews and usually called Palestinian Jews. The Arabs called themselves well—Arabs!

 

The second part of this big lie is that the leader of the 1948 war against Israel was a man called Hajj Amin el Husseini and only 3 years before this leader was in Germany leading in the murdering of 6 million Jews. All mention of Hajj Amin el Husseini is removed from all reports and writings in Ireland on this issue.

 

And the third issue is that the Irish especially Sinn Fein have abandoned Irish nationalism and no longer are fighters for Irish nationalism. The “Palestinian” issue for Adams is therefore a diversion to his own betrayal of the Irish. Furthermore every Irish person knows very well this betrayal of nationalism by Adams.

 

There is one further issue. That is Israeli leadership. It is bankrupt. The Israelis and the Jews are now a people without a leadership which can match up to the challenges of the present and the coming struggles.

 

The Israelis are led by elites when they must be led now by revolutionaries.

 

I say this most definitely. There is only one way forward in the midst of this almost incredible crisis for Jews and Israel (Yes I know there are Israelis who do not care or do not pay attention to these votes) But they are wrong on that as well. These votes matter greatly.

 

Remember that the American ruling elites are always hostile to the Jews and have kept Jonathon Pollard in prison now for 30 years.

 

All that Pollard did was to give information to Israel about dangers to Israel from Iranian threats to the existence of Jews on this earth, information that the American elites were not passing on, a criminal act in itself. And Obama hates Jews totally.

 

The Jewish elites are betraying Jews as we speak. There is a man in Ireland called Alan Shatter. He is a Jew in the Dail and he did not oppose this vote in the Dail. HE COULD BUT DID NOT VOTE AGAINST IT.

 

This means that a new leadership must be built in Ireland which will stand in the traditions of revolutionary socialism of Lenin and especially of Leon Trotsky.

 

And the same must happen in Israel because I am totally dismayed by the sheer bankruptcy of the Israeli elites, such as Netanyahu, Lieberman and Bennett, while there is a distinct traitor class leadership around Livni and Labour as well as Lapid, the latter now being eclipsed by these events.

 

In fact now the only policy that makes sense and that is being advanced by we Trotskyists on 4international is that Israel must immediately in Ireland call for ULSTER independence, the destruction of the Good Friday Agreement that brought the terrorist sectarians of Sinn Fein into power north and south,

 

That means in essence building our Trotskyist 4international…the following is taken from the Adams twitter page and shows a photograph taken in the Dail where Palestinain Arabs had met with Sinn Feiners. I think the woman in the yellow coat is called popularly “Mary Lou”,  Adams is in the centre and on the very left is a real Israel hater who used to represent Monaghan 

IN AFGHANISTAN MALALA FIGHTS AGAINST THE JIHADISTS BUT IN ISRAEL SHE FIGHTS ON THE SIDE OF THE JIHADISTS

Taliban: Malala “a soldier against Islamic society and teachings of Islam”

(This article on http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/taliban-malala-a-soldier-against-islamic-society-and-teachings-of-islam gets to the very heart of the issue in the world today. Malala is indeed a courageous girl and indeed is fighting against the Jihad but when it comes to Gaza she is on the side of the Jihadists. Quite amazing situation which is the product of the Palestinian Narrative brainwashing of the world. All truth is contained in understanding this situation and how it has come about!)

MalalaMalala has donated $50,000 to UN schools in Gaza that are tools of Hamas, so it is the Taliban’s anger at Malala is short-sighted. In Gaza, she is effectively aiding the same cause for which they are fighting.

“Taliban slams Malala over Nobel prize, calls her ‘soldier against Islam,’” AFP, December 12, 2014:

The Pakistani Taliban hit out at teenage education activist Malala Yousafzai over her Nobel peace prize on Friday, slamming her as a “soldier against Islamic society”.

Malala became a global icon after she was shot and nearly killed by the Taliban in October 2012 for insisting that girls had a right to education.

The 17-year-old vowed to continue her struggle for every child’s right to go to school when she collected her Nobel at a ceremony in Oslo on Wednesday.

She is the youngest ever Nobel peace laureate, and the first Pakistani to claim the prize, but some in her home country condemn her as a Western agent — including the militants who shot her.

Muhammad Umar Khorasani, spokesperson for the main faction of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) headed by Mullah Fazlullah, told AFP that Malala had won the Nobel prize for “promoting Western culture, not education”.

Pakistan’s patriarchal society often relegates women to subservient domestic roles, but Malala has praised her father Ziauddin, a schoolteacher, for encouraging her to pursue her dreams.

The militant spokesperson singled him out for criticism.

“Malala’s father Ziauddin has made an agreement with the Western powers to destroy Pashtun culture and Pakistan,” Khorasani said, referring to the dominate ethnic group in the country’s northwest, where Malala is from.

“Her father is using Malala as a soldier against Islamic society and teachings of Islam.”…

ISRAEL MUST DISMISS THE SUPREME COURT, DESTROY OSLO ACCORDS, SAY THIS IS OUR NATION

The Russian workers in 1917 and their leaders under Lenin and Trotsky Acted. They did not wait and allowed themselves be massacred by the enemy. Israel must immediately have leaders who will start by closing down the Supreme Court of Israel. That must be done as a first step.

Time and valuable time is being wasted in Israel by the Israeli elites who are pretending to solve the situation by means of elections, while the main thing to do is to close down immediately the Supreme Court, state the boundaries of Israel as being the present including Judea and Samaria, Golan and Gaza. BOTH THESE ARE EMINENTLY DOABLLE 1. CLOSING THE SUPREME COURT 2. ISSUING A CLEAR STATMENT

I said (as a trotskyist supporter of Israel and will always be recognised as such against certain liars about Trotsky)  CLOSE IT and issue a STATEment

i issued this statement in answer to a political opponent:

So how about this as an answer:

 

  1. Abolish first of all the Supreme Court
  2. State the borders of Israel, forget a b and c just do it, those are the borders
  3. Arrest and imprison Abbas and others in Fatah

 

Take it from there bit by bit if necessary but do those things first

 

You will be attacked in the same way that Russia and Putin is attacked. So form a very close relationship with Russia on the basis of these issues or at least try to

 

Begin expulsions of dangerous Antisemites Arab and Jewish Antisemites both, and simultaneous with that offer enticements to others…expulsions are a principle and enticements are somewhat else and can take many forms

 

State clearly that Gaza is yours. Do nothing there yet. Stop though all transports into the Gaza enemy. Issue a statement and repeat it continually asking Arabs to confront the Antisemitism inside of the Hamas Charter

 

Face up as a nation to the Iranian Nuclear threat

 

No foreign body especially America in the shape of John Kerry to enter Israel without the most formal invitation

 

Strengthen ties with American people, certainly bypassing President, and not relying on Congress either. There are other methods. Such as close alliance with Breitbart, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and much assistance to these as well

 

Oh and close down Haaretz sending Amira Hass to Gaza with one way ticket to be reconsidered later (her fate as a traitor) when Gaza is decided

 

Formal alliance with el Sisi while maintaining independent role

 

Israel and el Sisi arming of not just the Kurds but also the Christians of Nigeria and the Christians and Alawites of Syria against the Jihad. For now Libya and Ivory Coast are lost causes as the battle was betrayed by US president Obama and Prime Minister Cameron

 

DO IT! AS THE SURGEON SAID LET’S DAMMED WELL DO IT! You could not ask for a more pliable and adaptable plan than that.

 

Where you go wrong Mr Belman is messing around with these phoney a b and c entities which are also OSLO entities

 

Lastly explain everything in the open and to the Israeli people and to all Arabs also in the área.

 

In that context with a new government in power introduce Sherman’s Hisbara concepts with enormous emphasis on the role of Hajj Amin el Husseini in the Holocaust, and also linking the role of the Jewish state as nation to active AND OPEN support for selected national liberation struggles, especially Basque, Catalonian, Ulster, Welsh, Scottish and Corsican. Arm Kurds to the gills…

 

This was written in response to the sadly deluded Ted belman of Israpundit who wrote what I think of as rubbish in the following:

During this time we should set up a program whereby every Arab in what we annex, be offered money to leave just as Sherman proposes. Assuming that such Arabs do take the bait and leave then we can expand the program for the Arabs in the rest of the area when we are ready.

Then annex it all. I don’t want to offer citizenship. I don’t want to induce them to stay as Bennett suggests.

This must be done in the correct manner. For instance if we annex a revised area C first, will the Supreme Court allow us to offer money only to these Arabs and not to anyone else living in Israel or the illegal aliens. Will the Court insist we offer them a path to citizenship? Perhaps we will have to get them to move out before annexation? (end quote)

(taken from Dec 11 Israpundit http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63603065/comment-page-1#comment-63356000146841)

THE BRITISH LABOUR PARTY IS TURNING MORE AND MORE ANTISEMITIC

UK Labour Party: “UKIP has evil money grabbing jews in their party”

Pamela Geller.com is drawing attention to the role of the Labour Party in Britain towards the Jews of Israel and towards the state of Israel. This is a vital issue. Historically the Labour Party has been antisemitic and connected with that antisemitism the direct agent of British Imperialism inside the British workers movement.
 
Labour headquarters

 These were the people that the British government was trying to appease when it banned Robert Spencer and me from entering the UK. They have opened their doors to Jew-haters and jihadis. How will that work our for them? In a future of blood and savagery.

And British Jewish leadership cowers before these cretins. Just yesterday it was widely reported that the Zionist Federation in the UK canceled Israeli scholar Dr. Mordechai Kedar from a number of lectures at synagogues because of his “links” to me.

“London Labour – ‘UKIP full of money grabbing Jews,’” Nope, Not Hope, December 4, 2014:


Updated @00:30 – Labour Press Office denies account is official Labour Party one. It is still followed by Shadow Ministers, MPs, MEPs, Cllrs and CLPs, who are this morning being treated to a series of fascists posts decrying ‘white genocide’. We wonder whether the Daily Mirror will be so quick to publish the details of this account as they were to publish details of a series of fake UKIP accounts apparently set up by the same person earlier this week? A Labour Party twitter account has accused UKIP of being ‘full of money-grabbing Jews’ in a
disgraceful attack on UKIP candidate Shneur Odze this evening.Mr Odze, who earlier this week organised a ‘Friends of Israel in UKIP’ event attended by several MEPs and senior activists, is a longstanding member of UKIP who now resides in the North West. He is the most prominent of UKIPs many Jewish members.the Twitter account in question – @LabourLondon – describes itself as the ‘Official North London Labour presence. It is followed by Labour’s Welsh Assembly Group, journalist Dan Hodges, and others including Meg Hillier MP, Jude Kirton-Darling MEP, Alison Seabeck MP, Dan Jarvis MP, Ian Lavery MP, Steve Reed MP, Sadiq Khan MP,  Cllr Tudor Evans, and Constituency Labour Parties including Barnet, Brent, Norwich, East Lothian, Redbridge, Labour Youth, Ipswich, Bedford, Aylesbury, SE Region and SW Region. Can we look forward to the howls of outrage and demands for an apology from Hope not Hate?

Update – The offending tweet was removed around 21:30 last night, and replaced with the following:

By 00:30, the Labour Party Press Office was denying that Labour were responsible for the account, and saying that they had nothing to do with it.

– See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/12/uk-labour-party-ukip-has-evil-money-grabbing-jews-in-their-party.html/#sthash.7GEbTFEC.dpuf

SHARON OPPOSED THE 2003 DISASTROUS WAR ON SADDAM – A BIG LESSON IN THIS 2014 ISRAELI ELECTION

The Bush/Blair/Aznar war on Iraq in 2003 was disastrous for Jews, Saddam was secular and his removal by Bush opened the door to present Iranian dominance and greatly endangers Israel in this very moment! Sharon opposed this horrific world episode!

A very big issue in this election is Israeli foreign policy and whether Israel is really an independent country especially in ideology as well as in physical reality? The premier example of this in recent times is when Sharon took a position of disagreement with Bush over the 2003 Iraq War. Not enough attention has been given to that, not by supporters of Israel who also happen to be like sheep following a particular line, and certainly not by Antisemites in Israel, the Arab world and the west who want the very opposite of the truth. The Israel haters like David Icke who are simply organs for the Iranian Antisemitic Press TV want to label “Zionism” as being reactionary. But Sharon did oppose the Bush 2003 war on Saddam!

 

Indeed, the truth is that a very big section of Israeli society were opposed to the Bush war on Saddam and this is most striking because the Jews of Israel on many scores had many accounts to settle with Saddam and indeed with the whole of the Iraq ruling elites, never mind the Baathists. There is a long history of Antisemitism in Iraq and among Iraqi Arabs against Jews and of course Israel. Yet a great section of Israeli Zionist society were very opposed to the Bush NeoCon war on Saddam in 2003. You also have to include Zionist opposition to the Tony Blair and Aznar role in that war as well. Although it is never talked about it is one of the most glorious episodes in Zionist history and is of immense importance today.

 

This historical record must be brought forward. It ties in as well with the reactionary role of the Israeli elites towards their position on Yugoslavia especially on Milosevic, also on their horrific and hopeless attitude towards all the events of the Arab Spring.

 

Although Sharon was utterly opposed to the 2003 war on Saddam and made his position well known to the American and other elites THE KEY THING IS Sharon did not publish this for the masses – neither the Israeli masses or the world masses. But the record states nevertheless that Sharon and a big section of the Israeli people opposed the war on Saddam

 

This article from the Jewish (historically socialist leaning) “Forward” magazine and website is the very proof that we need and this must be made as widely known as possible. The article is not an academic issue but relates very closely to every issue internationally today, and here I venture to suggest Mubarak, Gadhafi and now Assad – but also Putin

 

The silence in public of Sharon was the real problem and something of an historical tragedy. He was right but he needed to speak out boldly. That is the essence of real independence.

 

In all of the blogs and all of the leaders coming out of Israel today I see no sign that there is this necessary courage. We tell the truth here and we wait and see…

 

 

(start quote from Forward)

Publicly, Sharon played the silent ally; he neither criticized nor supported the Iraq adventure. One reason for his relative silence was Washington’s explicit request that Israel refrain from openly backing its invasion of an Arab country or in any way intervening, lest its blessing damn the United States in Arab eyes.

But sometime prior to March 2003, Sharon told Bush privately in no uncertain terms what he thought about the Iraq plan. Sharon’s words — revealed here for the first time — constituted a friendly but pointed warning to Bush. Sharon acknowledged that Saddam Hussein was an “acute threat” to the Middle East and that he believed Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction.

Yet according to one knowledgeable source, Sharon nevertheless advised Bush not to occupy Iraq. According to another source — Danny Ayalon, who was Israel’s ambassador to the United States at the time of the Iraq invasion, and who sat in on the Bush-Sharon meetings — Sharon told Bush that Israel would not “push one way or another” regarding the Iraq scheme.

According to both sources, Sharon warned Bush that if he insisted on occupying Iraq, he should at least abandon his plan to implant democracy in this part of the world. “In terms of culture and tradition, the Arab world is not built for democratization,” Ayalon recalls Sharon advising.

Be sure, Sharon added, not to go into Iraq without a viable exit strategy. And ready a counter-insurgency strategy if you expect to rule Iraq, which will eventually have to be partitioned into its component parts. Finally, Sharon told Bush, please remember that you will conquer, occupy and leave, but we have to remain in this part of the world. Israel, he reminded the American president, does not wish to see its vital interests hurt by regional radicalization and the spillover of violence beyond Iraq’s borders.

Sharon’s advice — reflecting a wealth of experience with Middle East issues that Bush lacked — was prescient. The American occupation of Iraq has ended up strengthening Iran, Israel’s number-one enemy, and enfranchising militant Shi’ite Islamists. A large part of Iraq is slipping into the Iranian orbit. Iraq’s western Anbar Province is increasingly dominated by militant jihadi Sunnis who could eventually threaten Syria and Jordan, the latter a strategic partner and geographic buffer for Israel.

All these developments harm vital Israeli interests. This past summer, Israel fought a war against two militant Islamist movements supported by Iran — Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza — that were enfranchised and legitimized in their anarchic countries thanks to Bush’s insistence on hasty and ill-advised democratic elections “in this part of the world.”

Had Sharon made his criticism public, citing the dangers posed to vital Israeli interests, might he have made a difference in the prewar debate in the United States and the world? Certainly he would have poured cold water on the postwar assertions of critics, like professors Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, who have fingered Israel, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and pro-Israelis in the administration for instigating the war. Ayalon, incidentally, was directed by Sharon to warn all Israelis visiting Washington not to encourage the American scheme for war in Iraq, lest Israel be blamed for its failure.

There were, of course, neoconservative types in Israel who did encourage the United States to occupy Iraq and advocated democratic elections wherever possible in the Middle East. But there were also many Israelis, this writer included, who spoke out openly and publicly against the American scheme.

http://forward.com/articles/9839/sharon-warned-bush/?#

VITAL FOR A UNITED FRONT IN ISRAELI ELECTION OF NETANYAHU, BENNETT, LIEBERMAN AND RELIGIOUS PATRIOTS TO KEEP TRAITORS OUT

These two pictures, the first is the Islamic State, the second above is the result of the “Palestinian” narrative are the same thing

The Israeli election in March by itself is not going to decide anything. Yet it is still of absolute importance. It is most important that the headline above is made reality (and we will explain why)

Israel is in a race against time.  These are some issues that are at play:

  1. The way that Christian Antisemitism is changing into a new force behind the lies in the narrative of the “Palestinians” and how this is joining with the deadly Antisemitism of the Muslim world which has its roots in Muslim ideology. This combined force is a great threat which must be understood theoretically as well as combatted in a practical way.
  2. The changing international situation which combines many factors, too numerous to cover here. Of great importance are these: The role of ideology in the world today. This takes many challenging forms. One is how the “Palestinian” narrative has been sold. Also the power of the modern Media in spreading all kinds of lies, seen very vividly in Yugoslavia, when the great Lie of Srebrenica “massacre” was sold most effectively by a Media, and followed on from many other lies such as the Racak “massacre” and where a whole people were successfully lied against over many years, lies very difficult to stand up against. Yes a people can today be hammered by the Media into the ground.
  3. The changing situation in America is partly a continuation of the Yugoslavia Big Lie. If the Media could sell lies like Racak and Srebrenica then it also could place into power Obama, and successfully cover the CIA roots of his family (His Father as a CIA asset under Tom Mboyo, his mother as a lifelong CIA asset or agent, his stepfather Soetoro as a very central Indonesian CIA asset involved in the massacre in the Indonesian countryside of at least a million Indonesian communist youth, mainly country youth, who had been systematically misled by the “peaceful road to socialism” of Stalinism. Bill Ayers proved by Jared Israel to be a CIA agent as was his wife, and their role in the student movement of the 60s acting as obvious agents provocateurs (Jared proved the links then between Obama and Ayers and raises the idea that they were all at that time being directed by the CIA)
  4. That is an important factor in this Israeli election although few may discuss it. The reality is this…from Reagan on, every one of them, especially Bush Snr. and Bush Jnr., all have been most dangerous towards the Jews , all are under the sway of the CIA and the US State Dept.
  5. There have been massive mistakes made by Israeli leaders and we must understand these mistakes and what are their roots. Sharon was right in opposing bitterly the Bush war on Saddam in 2003. Sharon travelled to America to argue against this war. His big mistake was that he did this in secret. This was fatal because the Antisemites of Right and Left convinced the world he was arguing for the war.
  6. The war against Saddam was the greatest blow against Israel, Jews and all of us progressives in the world. Not because Saddam was blameless. But because he was a secular politician as was Nasser. He was thus like a finger in the dyke holding back the forces of anti-rational Islam. If Sharon had opposed the war on Saddam and stated his correct reason very publicly…different ball game entirely. To understand the issue of the danger to Israel from Iran and its Nuclear Bomb plans then it is necessary to understand that single episode of Bush overthrowing Saddam. All has followed from that.
  7. That though was nothing to the silence of the Israeli rulers and elites when Obama and the Jihad were toppling Ben Ali, Gaghbo, Mubarak above all, and also Gadhafi. Sharon with his “privacy” was weak but this was total scandal for Jews! Many like Caroline Glick had joined the war on Saddam but by now had changed (having with difficulty learned) and were opposing Obama in say the overthrow of Mubarak. But the Israeli Government said not a word.
  8. This leads to the present because it is easy to take a position on past events. But what about in the present Assad, the promotion of Jihad morphing into Islamic State against Assad, and what about Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz travelled recently to a conference in America which was slated as defending the Christians of Syria and Iraq and proceeded by attacking Assad and calling for the destruction of Assad. Cruz said basically “I will not defend the Christians of Syria and Iraq” unless they shape up in relation to Jews and Israel. Bottom line Cruz did not and does not defend the Christians against the Jihad. Israel (at least its leaders) is part and parcel of that Cruz treachery towards the Christians which is contained within the Assad issue. We say defend Assad UNCONDITIONALLY against Obama and the Jihad, while do not forgive or lower your guard against Assad’s Antisemitism. That is a correct and principled position but nobody in Israel holds it.

 

SO THERE ARE MANY ISSUES IN THIS ELECTION AND ISRAELI LEADERS HAVE SHOWN THEY ARE NOT ADEQUATE TO THIS PERIOD OF INTENSE THEORETICAL AND PHYSICAL CHALLENGES.

 

So then to be super practical!…A new leadership is required. But what is it? What leadership can meet this period?

 

I say it will be a Trotskyist leadership! But the Israeli people know hardly a thing about this aspect of history. They see only Labour, revisionist left and Stalinist traitors. So that is the sad reality. We have to deal with things as they are.

 

The election will not deal with these vital issues. But the worst outcome is that traitors take power in Israel. I mean the open traitors like Herzog and Livni. The best is that Netanyahu, Bennett and Lieberman can join with some religious patriots and thereby form a government. This allows the discussion to take place. If the traitors like Lapid take power in any way they will open the door to the Obama CIA and you remember what happened to those hapless millions of communist cadres in the Indonesian massacre all those years ago, with Obamas step dad in the fore of the CIA Suharto major killing spree. Without leaders that can happen anywhere today.

 

So vital issue in this election…major really major effort to vote Netanyahu, especially vote Likud, vote especially for Bennett, vote for Lieberman because the Russian vote is vital too, and vote for religious patriots. To continue the discussion of the way forward in this difficult world. Against any kind of complacency! To allow Livni, Herzog or Lapid near power is to say “Here Jihadists place your rockets on the hills overlooking Ben Gurion Airport a few miles off”. Not advisable at all!

ELECTION MARCH 17 MEANS NOTHING, EL SISI SHOWS WAY, RESTORE DEATH PENALTY IN ISRAEL

Kenya quarry murders of yesterday morning  by Jihad…Why is Israel not sending arms to Kenyans, Kurds, Nigerians etc. to help fight against the common enemy?

The election on March 17 in Israel means very little indeed. This is because all of the Israeli politicians, part of a political elite, are cowardly, insular, and do not have a single policy to meet the crisis in world imperialism in which Israel is being surrounded by the Islamic Jihad represented above all by the Islamic State, which in turn is promoted by US Imperialism, the EU and NATO. They all aim to dismantle Israel as they did Yugoslavia in the interests of the Jihad

 

They are cowards! What they should be doing is clear enough. There is no division in Israel between things internal to Israel and things external. The Israeli leaders are bankrupt on both counts.

 

Start first with external (international). Israel must see its immediate and obvious enemies as being an alliance of American elites and European elites with the Jihad, the latter represented by Hamas, Fatah and Iran. To combat this Israel must state clearly that it intends to arm the Kurds to the gills in order to fight its enemies and to set up their Kurdish states in Turkey and Iran. Israel must send its delegates to the Scots and make clear that Israel will back the Scots with everything they need in order to achieve Scottish independence. Israel must send a delegation to Belfast, meet Northern Protestant delegates there, and aim to create an independent Ulster. Israel must travel to the city of Barcelona and state that it will back the Catalonians with everything to fight the Spanish imperialists to the very end in order to win Catalonian independence. Basques also! This and more. Israel must do this with the greatest of fanfare possible. Create a big stir. Ram these policies right down the bloodthirsty throats of the British and American Imperialists.

 

That is external. What about internal? The internal cannot be discussed without creating the most direct alliance with the el Sisi Government and Judiciary of Egypt because Egypt is actually showing the way to the Jews as to how the Jews can survive inside of Israel. An immediate statement must be rattled off the presses in Israel that gives the Egyptians full support in the sentencing to death of Hamas Fascist demonstrators and killers.

 

Moreover in relation to Israel and Egypt Israel must state publicly and with a lot of humility that Israel has been shown the way by el Sisi and the courageous Egyptian Judiciary in the action of condemning to death these Hamas Fascists. The death penalty for Palestinian Arab Fascists of Hamas and Fatah must indeed be restored to Israel. Do this and then sit back and watch Obama and Kerry go berserk. Then say to these British and American Fascists “Bugger off out of our country the historical Jewish state of Israel which existed 3000 years before your state was born”.

 

The same applies to Israel and Assad, Israel and Putin, and so on. Even with the Assad alliance with Hizbullah and with the Iranian Fascists notwithstanding Israel must make a statement saying that it will support Assad with everything including with arms to defeat the British and US Imperialists and to defeat the Jihadists against Assad. Israel must take the side of Assad unconditionally at same time as the IDF strikes the Iranian Nuclear Bomb. This unconditional support of Assad against the Jihad does not imply for second that Assad is not Antisemitic like all Arab leaders and it does not mean dropping Israeli defense against Assad if necessary.  The very same applies to the defense of Putin in Crimea, Georgia and south Ukraine. Israel must state that it will arm the Ukrainian Russians against the Nazis of the Ukrainian Government that overthrew the elected president a year ago. Nor does this imply agreement with Putin.

 

That is the only way to fight this election on March 17. The rest is to follow these creeps like Netanyahu, Likud, Feiglin and Naftali Bennett into the abyss and endanger Israel to the Jihad and US Imperialism.

YES ISRAEL MUST URGENTLY RECOGNIZE ULSTER, SCOTLAND AND CATALONIAN INDEPENDENCE

It seems that quite a few European countries are in the process of “recognizing” the “state” of “Palestine.”  The question arises as to what the appropriate response from Israel should be to these actions by the Europeans. (WRITES THE ISRAELI PROFESSOR STEVEN PLAUT IN AN ABSOLUTELY BRILLAINT PROPOSAL THAT 4INTERNATIONAL BELIEVES IN AND WILL ACT ON)

Here is a plan:

Scottish Independence and Equality

If Belgium recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Flemish, the Walloons, and the Belgium Germans, and officially recognize the right of each group to set up its own state.

If Denmark  recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movement of the Faroese and officially recognize the right of the Faroe Islands to be an independent state.

If Finland recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Åland Swedes, and officially recognize their right to set up their own state.

If France recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Basques in France, of Brittany, of Northern Catalonia, of Savoy, of Occitania, and of course of Corsica.   Israel should officially recognize their right to set up their own states and arm them generously.

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If Germany recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Bavarians, the East Frisians, the Franconians, the Lusatians, and the people of Shleswig-Holstein, and Israel must officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

If Italy recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Sardinians, the South Tyrolese, and the people of Lombardy, and officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

If Holland recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Frisians, and officially recognize their right to set up their own state.

If Russia recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements inside Russia, a list of whom would fill a page,, and officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

If Spain recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Basques, the Catalans, the Andalusians, the Aragonese, the Asturians, the Balearic Islanders, the Cantabrians, the Leonese, the Galicians, and the Portuguese living in Spain.  Israel must officially recognize the right of each group to set up its own state.

If Sweden recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Scanians, and officially recognize their right to set up their own state.

If Switzerland recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Genevans, Jurassiens, and the people of Ticino, and officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

If Turkey recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize all the separatist movements inside Turkey, first and foremost the Kurds, officially recognize their right to set up their own states and arm them to the teeth.

If the UK recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Scots, the Welsh, the Manx, Cornwall, Ulster, the Shetland Islands, the Orkney Islands, the Outer Hebrides, and officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/16073

FURTHER COMMENT BY 4INTERNATIONAL

Israel really should issue clear statement on
Kurds
Ulster
Catalonia
Basques
Scotland
Crimea (if they want it)

and needs to be done without delay (the hotter they are the better it is for Israel)

ISRAEL MUST UNDERSTAND WHAT IT STANDS FOR HISTORICALLY

The Jews are a very historical people and nation and hold big sway. Just a statement of intent is a very powerful blow struck for its own freedom and also for the freedom of nations, and against all forms of Big Nation repression

Just imagine the power in this. Imagine the stir this will créate in the staid halls of the BBC… they will go insane. Why not! What has Israel to lose? Nothing and everything to gain!