(statement by Felix Quigley)

4international totally oppose the lies being put about by an Alliance of Jihad Islam, of the Western Imperialist Media, and of western Governments, that claim that the Serbs on retaking Srebrenica killed Muslims.

They claim 8000 men and boys were murdered by the Serbs. This is a filthy lie. The whole of the evidence that was produced by these filthy liars at the Hague Kangaroo Court rested on the “evidence” of one main liar, a mercenary who had sold his soul many times over to the highest bidder, and which criminal actually puts to shame for outright devilry all of the supergrasses used by the Special Branch in the North of Ireland. 4international will prove all of this in future articles.

On this day, exactly 15 years since this giant hoax of the Srebrenica “Massacre” was put into operation, our organization 4international, representing true Trotskyism, pledge that we will eventually prove to the workers of the world the great injustice done to the Serb people.

This issue has got special importance to the Jewish people of Israel and in the Diaspora.

Trotskyists said at the time of these attacks on Yugoslavia and Serbia “You must unite with the Serbs because after the Serbs it will be the turn of the Jews”.

So it has indeed proved to be.

The Serbs were facing a coalition of rampant Imperialism allied with the Islamic Jihad, and also facing neo Fascist movements as in Tudjman´s Croatia.

Now the Jews face the Jihad as represented by the so-called Palestinians, in alliance as we speak with the first openly antisemitic President of the US, Obama. The ruling class of US Imperialism is founded on antisemitism but this is the first time that a president of the US has expressed this antisemitism so openly.

So we renew our call for Jews and Serbs to unite and to stand together because they are facing precisely the same enemies.

Today it is Kosovo! Tomorrow it will be you!

Jews note this well: in seeking to destroy the Serbs the very first move that the forces of reaction above, US Imperialism and the Jihad, made was to seek the compliance in the destruction of the Serbs of Jewish leaders in America.

These utterly reactionary leaders obliged because they have no national independence outside of the reactionaries who make up American Imperialism.

So these American (mainly) Jewish leaders cast an enormous and horrific stain on the Jewish people.

Yet these Jewish leaders in truth were not elected by the ordinary American Jewish people, they got into power by a nudge and a wink.

Thus they cannot be said to be representative of American Jewish people, above all not of the Jews of Israel; they only in reality represent themselves

At the time in vain we said “Denounce these leaders! Today it is Kosovo! Tomorrow it will be you the Jews!

The arrival of Obama has brought this to reality with a bang.

Obama is now at the centre of the Islam Jihad against Israel

There is much confusion about this Jihad against Israel: It centres not on Hamas, but on Abbas, and the creation of a Palestine Jihadist state which is aimed and based on the “Salami” approach of Jihadist strategy, at the weakening and then destruction of the Jewish Homeland of Israel.

The greatest danger is not from Hamas or from Abbas, the greatest of all dangers is from sections of the Israeli ruling class, such as Netanyahu, even more Livni and Barak, who play along with the Jihad and consider giving these Palestinian Jihadists their own state, on what is legally and rightfully Jewish land, set aside for the Jewish Homeland by the San Remo League of Nations international and internationally recognized treaty in 1922.

This is the crisis of Jewish leadership. This crisis we emphasize here a thousand times over cannot be solved without building a new party in Israel, the Trotskyist Party, 4international which this website represents.

To return to the crisis of leadership back in the early 1990s when the combination of US Governments, EU Governments and the Jihad turned on the Serbs to destroy the Serbs as an independent nation (Note the presence of Quisling Tadic in Srebrenica today standing with the killers, tormentors and beheaders literally of Serbs) we affirm to all Jews:

By not acting…By not kicking these reactionary Jewish leaders out of the Jewish movement…By not forming the closest of unions with the Serb people, the Jews have indeed made the rod for their own backs.

We on 4international say firmly that the hoax of the “Palestine State”, the Hoax of el Durra France 2, the hoax of Qana, and a dozen others, is also the hoax of the so-called “Srebrenica Massacre”

All of them are constructs, part of the Islam Jihad allied with the interests of Islam, and also often directed by the CIA and US Imperialism, in alliance with the French and British ruling class, for THEIR strategic interests.

The stirring up of Serb Hatred, of Russian hatred, is part of the stirring up of Jew hatred…it falls into the strategic political interests of an imperialist capitalist system in crisis.

So we say join together now:

*Fight the Jihad against Israel by opposing this phony and antisemitic Palestine State right down the line!

 *Put down the Fascists of Croatia, the Jihadists of Bosnia and Kosovo. Return the Serbs of Krajina to their Homeland and establish once and for all the independent state of Krajina!

 *Revolutionary justice against fascists. Establish the independent Serb state of Bosnia and put down all forms of Jihad. Recreate Yugoslavia as a federation of Fascism opposing states.

We on 4international say one final thing:

Arrest and execution of Fascists like Nasir Oric and the execution after summary revolutionary justice of all those Jihadists to repay them for cutting the heads of defenceless Serbs and to repay them for Jihadist terror against the poor and ordinary Serb people!

Call for Muslim ordinary people to join with this revolutionary justice against the Jihadists and US Imperialists!

When the Serbs retook Srebrenica on this day 15 years ago they were entering into a giant and elaborate trap which had been prepared by Clinton, Tudjman and the Jihadist Izetbegovic.

In fact the Serbs murdered in cold blood not one single Muslim and there has been not once scrap of evidence that they did.

But they could quite rightly and morally have executed hundreds of these Muslim Jihadists who had terrorised the Serbs over so long and murdered well over 3000 Serb small farmers, mainly elderly, and any Serb youth whom they caught.

We on 4international, and many other people, our friends, have too – the photos of these monster Jihadists backed by Britain and the USA holding aloft the heads of these poor and unfortunate Serbs who were unlucky enough to be caught by these fiends. Even the Shankill Butchers after their grizzly work did not pose for photos—the sickness of Imperialism and the sickness of the Jihad

4international is not pacifist. We believe in the rights of ordinary people to defend themselves and to take vengeance against their enemy.

This was the very same vengeance which ordinary people in Italy and France took against the Nazis

If ever there was a case for revolutionary vengeance then it was when the Serbs retook Srebrenica on this day 15 years ago.

That is what should have happened and those fascists in the Jihad in Yugoslavia know it, and the Imperialists safe in the recesses of US Imperialism know it too. The Serb soldiers led by Mladic were in fact too soft, too mindful of legan norms, just as is Israel in facing the Fascists of IHh and Hamas!

And that is why they continue with the Big Lie of the Srebrenica Massacre. They are covering their own crimes. They hope that the more noise they make the less people will understand.



January 8, 2010, 12:32 PM (GMT+02:00)

Zakaria DoghmushZakaria Doghmush

DEBKAfile‘s military sources report that a bitter feud within the Popular Committees, climaxing in a failed attempt to murder the group’s leader Zakaria Doghmush, triggered the mortar volleys against the Kerem Shalom goods crossing and missile attack on Ashkelon Thursday, Jan. 8. It also marks weakened Hamas control.

Israel retaliated Thursday night with air strikes on three smuggling tunnels in southern Gaza, another snaking under the Israeli border and a missile foundry. The Palestinians report seven strikes and two dead. Their attacks have intensified in recent weeks, a year after Israel’s Operation Cast Lead against Hamas.

The attempt on the clan leader’s life, which the Popular Committees and Hamas kept dark, was staged last Monday, Jan. A taxi driver pulled in at Doghmush’s headquarters in the Sabra district of Gaza City insisting to his bodyguards that the large package he was carrying was for personal delivery to their boss. It went through without being examined and exploded thereupon. Doghmush was out of the room in those seconds and survived.

DEBKAfile‘s counter-terror sources report that two Popular Committees factions are warring over the distribution of power and funds and vying for Hamas support. Doghmush heads one camp, Abdul Khalim Fayoumi, known as “The Grandfather,” the second. He is suspected of the plot to murder his rival.

The next day, an Israeli bomber caught a Popular Committees group outside Khan Younes poised to fire a missile. The Committees’ missile chief, Jihad a-Samiri, was killed and five others injured. Doghmush resolved to turn the heat on the Israeli side of the border, both to avenge his death and to gain points in his feud with Fayoumi.

Doghmush is credited with opening the Gaza door to al Qaeda four years ago. Its influence in southern Gaza is expanding fast, posting a challenge to Hamas control, through a cluster of factions known, Jund al-Ansar Allah, Jaljalat, Jaish al-Islam and Shaish al-Umma. The powerful Doghmush clan, one of the largest in the Gaza Strip, made rich by smuggling and racketeering, dominates Jaish al-Islam, which together with Hamas carried out the cross-border kidnap of the Israeli soldier Sgt. Gilead Shalit in 2006.

It gained notoriety by snatching BBC journalist Alan Johnston in March 2007. Unlike Shalit, Johnston was later released.



In the discussion on the RTE radio station in Spain at the time of the Gaza war one year ago the question was asked

How can Israel prevent terrorists from sending rockets into Israel. This had been going on for 8 years. Israel had been totally restrained for 8 years. many would say, very foolishly so.

There was no answer to this simple question coming fromt he other side on RTE

There really is no answer this side of war. That is the sad but real answer. No person every likes war or violence but as long as we live in this capitalist society no alternative has been invented.


By Felix Quigley

December 1, 2009

Netanyahu from the standpoint of the security of Israel is not the worst leader that Israel has had. In fact he may be one of the best.

The problem is that the external situation that Israel finds itself within has changed enormously and is now very challenging. In the face of this situation a new type of leader is needed. It is not really the fault of Netanyahu as an individual person

Hence we say that we give our support, the support of our organization, 4international, to Netanyahu and his government in the face of hostile attacks especially from Britain and the US.

And remember that the Bosnian experience showed us most clearly that these 2 powerful states and their hierarchic leadership are tied in with Islam, in that in Bosnia they allied with the well known Nazi war criminal Izetbegovic, hid his past hid his extreme Nazi Muslim views, and created an alliance between them all against the Serb Christians of Yugoslavia, to eventually wipe Yugoslavia off the map.

So remember whether Ahmadinejad did use those exact words, he and his cohorts in Iran and the Muslim world have made plenty of such statements against Israel.

And one country, Yugoslavia, has indeed been “wiped off the map”.

That could in all rationality also happen to Israel. Happen once it can happen again. At the very least it must be admitted that that reality is in the mix

So once again we defend Netanyahu, just as we defended Milosevic and now defend Karaditz, against the combined forces of Islam and capital imperialism. But we note that such a leadership as represented by Netanyahu is inadequate to meet such powerful despotic forces.

In our previous article on the Goldstone Report we noted that the response of the Israeli Government was late and weak.

That the Goldstone Report was actually a crude plot created by the Tyrant Led UN in order to deligitimize the IDF, the main body defending Israel.

That this was especially timed to block the IDF from acting on its own, which it necessarily has to do, because Obama is on the side of Iran, in order to defang the Iran Nuclear Bomb programme and direct threat to the existence of Israel.

That by now many good and patriotic Israelis are at this moment prisoners in their own country. For example they cannot travel for a holiday or a professional conference in a country such as England or France.

That the Arabs in the area of Judea and Samaria misnamed the “West Bank”, have joined in with this attack on Israel.

That Israel over recent months has been lifting road block mechanisms in order to allow these Arab anti-Semites to travel from there to Israeli cities, where they can do expensive shopping and engage in expensive night clubs etc.

While Israel still collects millions in order to send there to Abbas and on then to Gaza. Is that all not incredible!

Meanwhile there are 2 years in which Arabs have killed in cold blood thousands of Israeli people of all ages.

And as we rightly pointed out, this Goldman Report was in the pipeline for a year and more. Why did the ISRAELI Government not make up a report of its own on those murders, send it to the UN, send it to every newspaper in the world, hold meetings in every country, have its embassies link up with organizations like 4international who are allies of Israel to hold public meetings etc!

Why not indeed! The answer to that is very interesting and important.

Israel is not at all alone but we need to build an organization to show this.

The people of Switzerland just yesterday, the vote is out as I write this, have struck a huge blow against the Iranian Mullahs, and against their US, British and BBC backers. They have voted basically to outlaw the building of Islam Imperialist mosques which are at the very centre of Jihad

It was not on the ballot paper. But it could just as well have been. The good conservative people of Switzerland are in alliance with Israel against the Muslim so called “Palestinian” Arabs. And they also are allies of the Serbs and especially of Radovan Karadzic in their struggle against the Islamists, backed by the US and EU dhimmis, in his struggle in the Hague Kangaroo Court.

It is vital that the Trotskyist party be built!


by Felix Quigley

August 27, 2009 

4international issues an open challenge to Moshe Feiglin [head of the Likud’s Manhigut Yehudit (Jewish Leadership) faction]



Feiglin is of course in many ways a very progressive Jewish man and leader. We specifically opposed Netanyahu in trying in the past election to bar Feiglin from participating fully.


Feiglin at the centre of his campaign inside Likud also calls for the revival of Jewishness and any progressive and revolutionary socialist who has the interest of the Jews at heart will support that totally.

After all we fight on 4international for Jews to create their Homeland in Israel and to have full rights to live there as THEY decide!


But this is still not a political strategy in the context of today’s complex world politics where fascist power and socialist power are being posed.






Basically Feiglin is confused and confusing.


Feiglin calls for the development of Jewishness. He is most progressive in this.


But then Feiglin claims that this development of Jewishness will create or will be a political strategy. It will not. Unfortunately the world is far more complex.


Really what Feiglin has to still do is to spell out his political programme for the Jewish people and for Israel and it is on this that he is weak and totally deficient. If you wish to put it stronger he is bankrupt.


There are many ways to approach Feiglin and to understanding his politics. But essentially in the end there is only way and that is to counterpose the revolutionary socialist programme to that Israeli bourgeois type politicians.


For that purpose this is a paragraph from out of a report ( on the meeting which Bogey Yaalon had with the Feiglin group when Bogey was on his tour of speaking engagements.


[start extract here]


At the meeting, Bogey spoke about how peace is impossible for now, since the other side has not recognized Israel as the national home of the Jewish people. What he seemed to miss, however, is that to Feiglin, this is completely irrelevant. Whether the other side is ready for peace, willing to make compromises or anything else, plays no role in Feiglin’s thought. “Peace is not my objective,” he replied to Bogey. He continued, “There is no country on the entire planet, except us, that has peace as its national objective. The minute that peace is your national objective, you lose it.” The Zionism of old doesn’t interest him either. “Zionism has reached the end of its road,” he says. “It is time for the next level – the one based on faith and the God of Israel. If we don’t build the second level, we will lose the whole thing.”

[end extract here]


Actually Feiglin you are dead wrong! Re Zionism we on 4international have in no way whatsoever reached the end of its road. In fact its true road is only at the beginning stage.


In any case in the historical cycle it is not that long since Herzl and Zionism has been in existence anyway for 3000 plus years.





Feiglin sounds dramatic but is confusing


He is right in parts, wrong on fundamentals.


Right that “Peace” is a meaningless bullshit word when the world is dominated by Imperialism and by anti-Semitism!


But he offers no real political strategy at all, much less a revolutionary socialist political strategy.


His aim is to keep Imperialism chugging along, just that Imperialism does not do “chugging along”. Imperialism is in crisis and the total Imperialist world scene is what is causing such death-traps for the Jews of Israel and the world.


Feiglin does not offer any political strategy, even discussion, to meet this. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH FEIGLIN!


No political strategy equals certain defeat!


Remember these words from the above paragraph of Feiglin>


“It is time for the next level – the one based on faith and the God of Israel. If we don’t build the second level, we will lose the whole thing.”



As the majority of Jews in Israel or in any Western country are tending towards atheism.


What then! ???


It is a political position of bankruptcy.


This is very different to what we on 4international say. Full freedom of religious expression! But no ramming of religion down anybody’s throat either!




Bogey Yaalon the former IDF chief of staff and now part of the Netanyahu Government has called the “Peace Now” camp in Israel a virus. We on 4international believe he is right and we join the call of Bogey Yaalon absolutely completely with all of our might and resources.


“Peace Now” is a reactionary anti-Jewish, anti-Zionist movement inside Israeli politics.


The true measure of “Peace Now” is that it links up with “peace woman” Mairead Maguire who was given the Nobel Peace prize by the ever reactionary Norwegians.






Maguire it was who linked up with the British Army of occupation in Ireland as part of the reactionary “Peace Movement” which led on to the horrific Good Friday Agreement of Clinton and Blair, which forced into power the totally reactionary Sinn Fein of Adams and McGuiness, a leadership in Sinn Fein which is riddled with actual British State paid agents.


So we know where Maguire comes from. And we know too where “peace Now” with its associations with the anti-Semitic Palestine Solidarity Campaign comes from!


Maguire can often be found on these boats which are used as anti-Semitic propaganda ploys against Israel over Gaza, always hiding that Israelis left Gaza, handed it over to Arab Palestinians, but the Arabs then used Gaza as a base for terrorist attacks on Jews. Quite simply Maguire stinks! Total liar!


In many ways Israel is a sick society. But its sickness does not come from Zionism, it comes from those who have given in to the pressure of the US State Department on Israeli society and created traitors out of Jews!.



Peace Now is one of the results of that US State Department pressure. Peace Now is riddled with all kinds of state agents, agents of the Palestine Solidarity anti-Semites etc.


Then there is a very small minority of Jewish people in Israel who hate their own Jewishness.


This again is not new and indeed how could it be new! For at least 2000 years Jews have been bombarded with the message that they are lesser than other humans.


Some of this had rubbed off, was bound to rub off. Result is the “Peace” Now crowd.


Always ready to link up with the anti-Semitic enemies of Israel and Jews.


No different really to those Kapos in the Holocaust era who gave their services to the Nazis against their own people.




By Felix Quigley

August 23, 2009



Is it possible that the present so called “Left” has been totally taken under the control of US Intelligence and the US state?


Recently we have the example of a Human Rights Watch leader who is exposed as a definite Israel and Jew hater.


This man Joe Stork (deputy director of Human Rights Watch’s Middle East and North Africa division) is important because he has formed part of the anti Israel propaganda machine against Israel, which also includes people like the Irish Nobel Peace winner Mairead Maguire, also known as Mairead Corrigan.


We are all familiar with this form of extreme Israel and Jew hatred, their calls for boycott of Israeli produce in Ireland etc.


But one thing has gone unnoticed. That is that when Jewish organizations have criticized Stork then they have referred to Stork as a “Marxist”, an “extreme Marxist”, a “Marxist Revolutionary” and so on.


I think that US Intelligence has set up this situation in its broad outlines. I do not mean every exact detail is planned. That would fall into the realm of conspiracy. But every detail does not have to be so planned if the general outline is laid down


Anybody can see the US Intelligence machine achieving their aims here. Killing 2 birds with the one stone as it were.


  1. The American ruling class hate Jews, hate Israel and is obsessed with Israeli and Jewish power. So they have infiltrated the “Left” as anti-Semites
  2. Then when these “Left” anti-Semites do their dirty work they are labelled by the Media and also by ignorant Jewish people as “Marxists”


It is thus a classic piece of CIA strategic and tactical thinking. Investigate Philip Agee and you will see that this is not in any way fanciful. These are typical CIA programmes and here remember that the British Intelligence are not far behind the Americans, and the Germans also.



There are a number of questions about World War 2 which will not go away


  1. Hitler had wide support in Europe and America so long as he was fighting Bolshevism. He was opposed only on strategic territory issues.
  2. The British and the Americans had full knowledge of the Holocaust, as had the Vatican, and of the killing of the Jews. They knew everything about the death camps. They understood the railway system which made it possible. Yet although messengers from the Polish Underground sent messengers to urge them to bomb the railway lines (they actually flew over the lines daily!) they refused to do a thing


In all of this what then is the relevance of the Christopher Simpson book “Blowback” in understand the War and in understanding if US and British Intelligence worked to take over the “Left” as part of its anti-Semitic agenda and as part of its drive to negative the real Left


Next article in this series will ask:


What really changed in 1945? From Nazi rule to what?


The book referenced here:



America’s recruitment of Nazis,
and its disastrous effect on our domestic and foreign policy

by Christopher Simpson

Collier / Macmillan, 1988






The Swedish Foreign Ministry backs the Blood Libel



Sweden is an avowed enemy of Israel’s

By David Frankfurter

I am sure that you have been following the war of words between Sweden and Israel. A Swedish newspaper repeated rumor and innuendo that Israeli soldiers were harvesting organs from Palestinians. Sweden (which currently heads the EU) has refused to condemn this blood libel, confusing freedom of speech with hate speech. The Swedish Foreign Ministry even distanced itself from criticism of the article by its own Embassy staff in Israel.

Sweden is a major sponsor of antisemitic NGO’s

Friend, Gerald Steinberg argues that this is consistent with Sweden being a major sponsor of anti-Semitic NGOs which consistently defame Israel with lies, innuendo, propaganda and spin. Gerald expresses the hope that this furore will somehow teach the Swedes a lesson, and that they will stop this destructive funding.


Sweden and blood libel for over a decade

In March of 2004, I highlighted reports from Swedish newspapers that showed that Sweden had, from 1997 to 2004, deliberately and consistently classified as secret their own reports that their donations to Arafat’s Palestinian Authority were being diverted to corruption and the creation of a police state. Why? So that they could continue to knowingly channel billions of crowns to Palestinian corruption and violence. Also hidden from view of the Parliament was tens of millions in donations to the Palestinian Negotiations Support Unit. An organization which had stopped negotiating and had become a pure Palestinian propaganda agency. Swedish politicians were “shocked” – but the money kept flowing.

Later that same year, Lisa Abramowicz and I published an article highlighting the fact that the Swedish government was funding a conference in Gothenburg aimed at finding ways to fund Palestinian terrorism.

Sweden funding the propaganda and physical war against the Jews

For well over a decade, Sweden has deliberately and carefully looked for and found ways to secretly and openly fund the Palestinian propaganda and physical war against the Jews. And the Israeli government thinks that they can get the Swedes to change their ways with a bit of diplomatic pressure. They forget that the Swedes may live in a cold country, but they have proved that they can take the heat.


Conclusión: Frankfurter is right. These antisemitic traits are deeply ingrained incide the old countries of Europe which Either carried out the Holocaust or stood by and did nothing. Frankfurter knows that Israeli diplomatic effort will not stop antisemitism, a classic example being the heroic efforts of the Israeli ambassador to Ireland mailing to stop Irish antisemitism


by Felix Quigley

February 25, 2009


We reprint the speech by Geert Wilders in New York on February 23 in the interests of free speech and as part of our struggle against Fascism. We on 4international unconditionally defend Geert Wilders against the Fascist attack of his government on the basic right of free speech. Unlike the readers of Jihadwatch however we are critical of this speech by Wilders. He seems to think that the US Government is an opponent of Islamofascism. If so why then did the US and British support the Islamofascist and associate of Hajj Amin el Husseini in the destruction of Yugoslavia and in the war against the Serbs. During all of that lengthy episode the US Government and Islamofascism, all varieties, were joined together at the hip. And still are!Wilders in this speech misses that connection between US Governments and Fascism, he therefore obscures it.

Still the essence of this Wilders issue is the nature of Fascism straight out of the Koran and Wilders cry for free speech. Every socialist must support and defend both.

[Begin speech by Geert Wilders on February 23 here]

Thank you.Thank you very much for inviting me. And – to the immigration authorities – thank you for letting me into this country. It is always a pleasure to cross a border without being sent back on the first plane.

Today, the dearest of our many freedoms is under attack all throughout Europe. Free speech is no longer a given. What we once considered a natural element of our existence, our birth right, is now something we once again have to battle for.

As you might know, I will be prosecuted, because of my film Fitna, my remarks regarding Islam, and my view concerning what some call a ‘religion of peace’. A few years from now, I might be a criminal.

Whether or not I end up in jail is not the most pressing issue; I gave up my freedom four years ago. I am under full-time police protection ever since. The real question is: will free speech be put behind bars? And the larger question for the West is: will we leave Europe’s children the values of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem, or the values of Mecca, Teheran and Gaza?

This is what video blogger Pat Condell said in one of his latest you tube appearances. He says: “If I talked about Muslims the way their holy book talks about me, I’d be arrested for hate speech.” Now, Mr Condell is a stand-up comedian, but in the video he is dead serious and the joke is on us. Hate speech will always be used against the people defending the West – in order to please and appease Muslims. They can say whatever they want: throw gays from apartment buildings, kill the Jews, slaughter the infidel, destroy Israel, jihad against the West. Whatever their book tells them.

Today, I come before you to warn of a great threat. It is called Islam. It poses as a religion, but its goals are very worldly: world domination, holy war, sharia law, the end of the separation of church and state, slavery of women, the end of democracy. It is NOT a religion, it is an political ideology. It demands your respect, but has no respect for you.

There might be moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam. Islam will never change, because it is built on two rocks that are forever, two fundamental beliefs that will never change, and will never alter. First, there is the Quran, Allah’s personal word, uncreated, forever, with orders that need to be fulfilled regardless of place or time. And second, there is al-insal al-kamil, the perfect man, Muhammad the role model, whose deeds are to be imitated by all Muslims. And since Muhammad was a warlord and a conqueror we know what to expect. Islam means submission, so there cannot be any mistake about it’s goal. That’s a given. It’s fact.

This is Europe 2009. Muslim settlers calling for our destruction, and free speech on trial. All this is the outcome of a sick and evil ideology, the ideology that is weakening us, the surrender ideology of cultural relativism. It believes that all cultures are equal, and therefore Islam deserves an equal place in the West. It is their duty, the left thinks, to facilitate Islam. This way the cultural relativists paradise comes within reach and we will all be happy, and sing kumbaya.

The forces of Islam couldn’t agree more. Islam being facilitated by government is their agenda too. But they see it as jizya, the money dhimmis pay in order not to be killed or raped by their Muslim masters. Therefore, they happily accept the welfare cheque or the subsidies for their mosque or the money governments donate to their organizations.

This is just one example of cultural relativists and Muslim settlers having the same agenda. There is another. Islam considers itself a religion and therefore we are not permitted to criticize it. The left agrees. Although it hated Christianity for decades, now that Islam appears on the scene, they suddenly change course and demand ‘respect’ for something they call a religion.

Again we see the left and Islam having the same agenda: it is a religion, so shut up.

This all culminates in a third coming-together: nor the left nor Islam is in favor of criticism. In fact, given the opportunity, they would simply outlaw it. Multiculturalism is the left’s pet project. It is actually their religion. Their love of it is so great, if you oppose it, it must be hate. And if you say it, it is labeled hate speech. Now here is something the Islam can agree on.

This is the essence of my short introduction today: where the left and Islam come together, freedom will suffer.

My friends, make no mistake, my prosecution is a full-fledged attack by the left on freedom of speech in order to please Muslims. It was started by a member of the Dutch Labour party, and the entire legal proceeding is done by well-to-do liberals, the radical chic of Dutch society, the snobbish left. Too much money, too much time, too little love of liberty. If you read what the court of Amsterdam has written about me, you read the same texts that cultural relativists produce.

How low can we go in the Netherlands? About my prosecution, The Wall Street Journal noted: “this is no small victory for Islamic regimes seeking to export their censorship laws to wherever Muslims reside”. The Journal concluded that by The Netherlands accepting the free speech standards of, “Saudi-Arabia”, I stand correct in my observation that – I quote – “Muslim immigration is eroding traditional Dutch liberties”.

Now, if the Wall Street Journal has the moral clarity to see that my prosecution is the logical outcome of our disastrous, self-hating, multiculturalists immigration policies, then why can’t the European liberal establishment see the same thing? Why aren’t they getting at least a little bit scared by the latest news out of, for example, the UK. News that tells that the Muslim population in Britain is growing ten times as fast as the rest of society. Why don’t they care?

The answer is: they don’t care because they are blinded by their cultural relativism. Their disdain of the West is so much greater than the appreciation of our many liberties. And therefore, they are willing to sacrifice everything. The left once stood for women rights, gay rights, equality, democracy. Now, they favour immigration policies that will end all this. Many even lost their decency. Elite politicians have no problem to participate in or finance demonstrations where settlers shout “Death to the Jews”. Seventy years after Auschwitz they know of no shame.

Two weeks ago, I tried to get into Britain, a fellow EU country. I was invited to give a speech in Parliament. However, upon arrival at London airport, I was refused entry into the UK, and sent back on the first plane to Holland. I would have loved to have reminded the audience of a great man who once spoke in the House of Commons. In 1982 President Reagan gave a speech there very few people liked. Reagan called upon the West to reject communism and defend freedom. He introduced a phrase: ‘evil empire’. Reagan’s speech stands out as a clarion call to preserve our liberties. I quote: If history teaches anything, it teaches self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly. What Reagan meant is that you cannot run away from history, you cannot escape the dangers of ideologies that are out to destroy you. Denial is no option.

So, what should we do? Is this a good moment for freedom-loving people to give in or to change course? To all-of-a-sudden start singing praise of Islam, or proclaiming there is such a thing as a moderate Islam? Will we now accept the continuation of Muslim mass immigration to the West? Will we appease sharia and jihad? Should we sacrifice gay rights and women rights? Or democracy? Should we sell out Israel, our dearest ally, and a frontline state of Islam?

Well, my humble opinion is: No way, Jose!

I suggest to defend freedom in general and freedom of speech in particular. I propose the withdrawal of all hate speech legislation in Europe. I propose a European First Amendment. In Europe we should defend freedom of speech like you Americans do. In Europe freedom of speech should be extended, instead of restricted. Of course, calling for violence or unjustly yelling “fire” in a crowded theatre have to be punished, but the right to criticize ideologies or religions are necessary conditions for a vital democracry. As George Orwell once said: “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear”.

Let us defend freedom of speech and let us gain strength and work hard to become even stronger. Millions think just like you and me. Millions think liberty is precious. That democracy is better than sharia. And after all, why should we be afraid? Our many freedoms and our prosperity are the result of centuries of endeavour. Centuries of hard work and sacrifice. We do not stand alone, and we stand on the shoulders of giants.

Late December 1944 the American army was suddenly faced with a last-ditch effort by the Germans. In the Ardennes, in the Battle of the Bulge, Hitler and his national-socialists fought for their last chance. And they were very successful. Americans faced defeat, and death.

In the darkest of winter, in the freezing cold, in a lonely forest with snow and ice as even fiercer enemies than the Nazi war machine itself, the American army was told to surrender. That might be their only chance to survive. But General McAuliffe thought otherwise. He gave the Germans a short message. This message contained just four letters. Four letters only, but never in the history of freedom was a desire for liberty and perseverance in the face of evil expressed more eloquently than in that message. It spelled N – U – T – S. “Nuts”.

My friends, the national-socialists got the message. Because it left no room for interpretation!

I suggest we walk in the tradition of giants like General McAuliffe and the American soldiers who fought and died for the freedom of my country and for a secular and democratic Europe, and we tell the enemies of freedom just that. NUTS! Because that’s all there is to it. No explanations. No beating around the bush. No caveats.

Our enemies should know: we will never apologize for being free men, we will never bow for the combined forces of Mecca and the left. And we will never surrender. We stand on the shoulders of giants. There is no stronger power than the force of free men fighting for the great cause of liberty. Because freedom is the birthright of all man.


by Felix Quigley

January 14, 2009

We have just seen how Adam le Bor on Harry’s Place has been trying to set Israel and Jews up for persecution by the Hague Kangaroo Court, passing on lies which are put about by Jihadist antisemite Hamas supporters. That is Arab “Palestinians” successors of Hajj Amin el Hussein, who Le Bor claims to know little about!!! He made this claim on the Maurice Boland radio show few months back.

He has written books about the Balkans and does not know about el Husseini in the Balkans! What a fraud!

But Le Bor had a friend in Yugoslavia and this friend spread lie after lie against the Serbs. His name is Oliver Kamm and Kamm has been promoted by British Imperialism to a lead writer in the Times of London.

Gone is his old boring website. Now there is a big Times logo over his scribbles. Still boring as hell though!

If Le Bor is surfacing as an enemy of the Jews of Israel as he was for the Serbs, what about his great mate Kamm.

Well consider this, which Kamm writes as a lead article in the Times.

[Start extract from Times lead article by Kamm here]

The pictures do not lie. Laser-guided but blind to the distinction between fighter and civilian, Israeli bombs have reduced schools, apartment blocks and police parade grounds to visions of hell. Aid workers and relatives have removed bodies and pieces of bodies, and survivors too traumatised to talk. On Boxing Day: at least 50 cadets killed at Gaza City’s main police station alone. On Monday: reports, not denied by Israel, of phosphorus shells used over civilian neighbourhoods. On Tuesday: 40 children and teachers found dead in the wreckage of a school. And yesterday: reports of up to 30 more children killed in a house to which Israeli troops had moved them for their own safety.

For all Israel’s claims to have launched only targeted strikes on Hamas targets, it has shown scant concern for civilians caught in Gaza’s crossfire in the past two weeks. Yet this is as nothing next to the contempt shown by Hamas.

[End Kamm’s scribble here]

This man Kamm has now become the main attack against the Jews of Israel because he is perched in The Times.

Look at what he says here!

He says that the Jews of Israel have created in Gaza “visions of hell”. Did I not read that above or am I imagining it.

Of course he goes on to cover this attack on Jews by attacking Hamas. Of course he does! We have learned that Kamm talks out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

But the stark reality is his words above. That is what sticks and we can say that Kamm is his tiny little mind preparing to give evidence against Jews in the Hague Kangaroo Court.

Break the above down into manageable chunks and we have:

bodies and pieces of bodies

survivors too traumatised to talk

at least 50 cadets killed at Gaza City’s main police station alone

reports, not denied by Israel, of phosphorus shells used over civilian neighbourhoods

40 children and teachers found dead in the wreckage of a school

30 more children killed in a house


You see what I mean about Kamm. He is composing right there and then the evidence which he will joyfully present in person to the Hague Court against the Jewish people just as he helped do in the Hague Kangaroo Court.

And where is Kamm getting all of this garbage from. We have seen that his mate Le Bor was getting it from “Palestinian sources”, so what about Kamm.

This is precisely what he did in Yugoslavia. He promoted the Big Lie that the Serbs created a Massacre in Srebrenica even though there was no unbiassed evidence that he could produce, and he NEVER did.

So what about this evidence above? Where did he get this from???

Jewish people, every single poor oppressed Serb person who knows Kamm and has learned to really hate this man will warn you, please beware.


by Felix Quigley

January 14, 2009

The reactionary crowd of British and EU journalists who were the persecutors of the Serbs and who joined in with the Islamofascists in Bosnia and elsewhere have just started to persecute this time the Jews of Israel.

This is the meaning of the article by Adam le Bor, who is a big friend of Oliver Kamm, and all these reactionary characters who run Harry’s Place, and his article which more or less is giving the nod to bring Israel before the Kangaroo Court in the Hague.


It is going to backfire because many Serbs and Russians etc are going to start supporting Israel against Jihad and against this rotten lying Media.

4international is going to fight Le Bor and Kamm every step of the way. Kamm has since Yugoslavia been promoted to a BIG position in The Times of London. Kamm is now a big shot. No matter little Kammie, the bigger they are, the harder the fall.

Back to Le Bor. We showed just now that Le Bor is using Hamas lies in order to conduct a new war against the Jews, last time it was using Izetbegovic lies to conduct war against the Serbs.

Who does this guy really work for!!!

Now the wonderful IsraelNationalNews has done a review and a prediction really. The antisemites are going to try to bring Israel in front of the Hague Kangaroo Court which Le Bor and Kamm supported with all their being against the Serbs.

Jews and Serbs! Time to wake up and see the connections!

[Start quote from INN here] The IDF is preparing for a wave of lawsuits following the Cast Lead operation in Gaza, senior defense officials said Wednesday. The IDF has already set up a team responsible for reviewing evidence from Gaza in preparation for claims filed in international courts.

Attorney General Menachem Mazuz said the threat of international lawsuits was “not new,” but promised “intense activity” aimed at preventing the success of such suits. Several soldiers have been trained to film events while fighting, and the videotape is being reviewed by legal experts as well as intelligence agents. In addition, the IAF is filming all airstrikes in Gaza.

Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann was unsurprised by the threat of lawsuits. He appeared unconcerned, saying Tuesday, “As a general rule we are very humane… We conduct pinpoint operations against terrorist organizations.”

As the operation continues Israeli diplomats have gone on the offensive, accusing Hamas of war crimes. On Wednesday Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Gabriela Shalev filed a complaint blaming Hamas for civilian deaths in Gaza. Hamas uses innocent civilians as human shields, Shalev charged. Senior IDF officials have made similar accusations.

Senior IDF officers have faced international lawsuits in the past. Officers have been forced to avoid visiting Britain and other European countries for fear of lawsuits. Suits were filed in the United States as well: former IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Yaalon was accused of war crimes by a U.S. group in 2005, and a similar suit targeted Caterpiller, Inc. for selling bulldozers to Israel.

Mazuz: Legal Experts Approving Gaza Ops
In order to prevent lawsuits, legal experts are involved in the decision-making process, Mazuz said. “Representatives from the IDF Attorneys’ Office are sitting in the command room and approving each operation and target,” he explained.

IDF attorneys are not taking sole command of the decision-making process, Mazuz clarified. “In the end, the decisions on the ground are made by the military, which sees things in real time,” he said.


by Felix Quigley

August 5, 2008

Just recently I noticed that somebody called John Peter Maher has provided us with a vital piece of evidence. The place was interesting. The writer was responding to the scurrilous attack on the Serbs and Karadzic by Pajamas Media and Phyllis Chesler. I wish to report the highlights of this research here because it confirms other research that I have been doing in recent times on the record of Irish newspaper of record The Irish Times.


I discovered hundreds of articles on the Irish Times all asserting the Massacre of 8000 men and boys, which is a hoax. I reckoned this means that there would be a major article on this Srebrenica issue in the Irish Times of about one every ten days.


But there were none at the time of the alleged massacre, and none for at least a couple of months after the alleged event. In other words there was a very strange gap.


This simple fact backs up the reports of the Dutch soldiers (not the Dutch politicians) on the ground who stated that they knew of no murders by the Serbs.


That is basically no Srebrenica Massacre for the Irish Times to report on at all until it was essentially put together by false stories by a whole number of people connected with the EU, Dutch politicians (but not Dutch soldiers who were on the spot, US politicians in the UN like Albright etc etc.


The putting together of the story thus needed time. It also needed ambiguity and mystery.


So for example these liars created a mystery about missing Muslims which they numbered as thousands of missing Muslims. They were not missing at all. Those thousands had reached Tuzla. So this initial period is very important to understand how this Lie was created. The great strength of the work of this writer is that he focusses on just this period.


Hence in reading those comments in answer to the scurrilous piece by Phyllis Chesler I fairly pricked up my ears when I saw what John Peter Maher was writing.


At least Pajamas Media allows some dissenting opinion although some of our readers and supporters have been censured.


But in any case this one reader has placed a number of comments which are a direct challenge to the whole of the Srebrenica Hoax story. I will reprint some of his work here and I thank that writer for his invaluable contribution.


It is so important because it deals with the period immediately following the retaking of Srebrenica, and especially during that first month until Albright made her false accusations to the closed session of the Security Council of the UN. That is the key period to understanding how the greatest hoax in the history of humanity was created.


[start quote here]


John Peter Maher:

When did commentators first start using the formulation, the catch phrase, “The Srebrenica Massacre [of x-thousands of Muslim men and boys]”?

When did the “Srebrenica Massacre” story break?

No reports from 10 July 1995 and the immediately ensuing days and weeks ever refer to “the massacre of 8000 (or 7000 etc) Muslim men and boys”.

FROM Iran, no mention of a massacre having taken place:

“Iranian foreign minister [Velayati], in a message to the UN secretary-general, has asked for immediate action to prevent a massacre of the defenceless people of Srebrenica by the Serb rebels. SOURCE: Vision of the Islamic Republic of Iran Network 1, Tehran, in Persian 0930 gmt 11 Jul 95; Source: Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran Network 1, Tehran, in Persian 0930 gmt 11 Jul 95; SECTION: Part 4 Middle East; THE MIDDLE EAST; IRAN; ME/2353/MED. Message to UN secretary-general. Text of report by Iranian TV on 11th July.

From the front, no mention of a massacre having taken place:

Reports from the front in mid-July 1995, e.g. Chris Hedges in the New York Times of 18 July 1995, reported that thousands of armed Muslim fighters “slipped” through Serb lines under fire and arriving safe in Tuzla, held by Muslim forces (and a US garrison).

The lag time between as yet unbaptized “Srebrenica Massacre” on 10-11 July 1995 and the first press reports is over a month. David Rohde, who spearheaded the story that became known as “the Srebrenica Massacre”, did not himself use any such phrase or make such a claim. In his story, in the Guardian of 19 August 19 1995 we find “…I saw what appeared to be a decomposing human leg protruding from freshly turned dirt…” He repeated Albright’s fabrication about a massacre in a soccer stadium in a nearby town, [where] human faeces, blood, and other evidence indicated large numbers of people were confined, and perhaps shot.” Also: “United Nations official estimate that 4,000 to 6,000 Muslim men are still missing in the wake of the Srebrenica and Zepa assaults.”

Zbigniew Brzezinski:

The news would have still been hot when Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote an Op-Ed piece in “The New Republic” of 7 August 1995, under the headline: AFTER SREBRENICA. Zbig Brzezinski says only that something awful “might” happen.

Nowhere does Brzezinski mention a “Srebrenica massacre”. That catch phrase does not appear until weeks after the alleged event. It will not be found in the press until the American-sponsored Croatian “Storm” (Oluja) on Serb Krajina in August-September 1995.

(In)Consistency: Madeleine Korbel Albright, whose “Albright Group” now has the franchise for the cell phone business in Kosovo, brought the earliest allegation of a Serb massacre of Muslims on August 11, 1995. The chief United States delegate to the United Nations told a closed session of the Security Council that 2,000 to 2,700 missing Bosnians from the Srebrenica enclave might have been shot by the Bosnian Serbs.– She did not use the formulation “Srebrenica massacre.”

So, the numbers in Albright’s document and subsequent tellings and re-tellings are not consistent. What this implies we know from the Book of Daniel, chapter 13, where Susanna is denounced by corrupt Elders. Since their testimonies were inconsistent, as Daniel showed by “debriefing” the corrupt judges separately, the judges were condemned for bearing false witness.

LEXIS-NEXIS searches now permit us to track down press reports on whatever story. Readers can see for themselves what results turn up in searches dated between 10 July 1995 and the beginning of October 1995, using parameters such as

(Srebrenica AND massacre)
(Srebrenica AND missing)
Srebrenica AND 7000 OR 8000)
(7000-8000 men and boys) …

(Koranically, once boys attain the age of fifteen, they are “warriors” for Islam.)Remeber boy bombers in Israel.

Did the Srebrenica Massacre” happen? Draw your own conclusions.
Remember the the “Jenin Massacre” in the world press’ satanization of Israel

Jul 28, 2008 – 1:59 am John Peter Maher:




Just to repeat what John Peter Maher said once more:


“Madeleine Korbel Albright, whose “Albright Group” now has the franchise for the cell phone business in Kosovo, brought the earliest allegation of a Serb massacre of Muslims on August 11, 1995”.


And this was a lie and based on lies.


The hoax was constructed around the whole lie, or speculation, that there were thousands missing.


By about 2 weeks later though Chris Hedges of the New York Times no less had totally taken the ground from under that speculation with his article that the thousands missing had reached Tuzla, a Muslim and US controlled stronghold.


Hence as Maher points out a dearth of reports in the Media because essentially there was nothing to report on.


This Srebrenica Massacre is a Giant Lie. It never happened. It was made to happen by the repetition hundreds of thousands of times by a World Media which is totally corrupt.


To understand this giant lie you have to understand the giant corruption in this giant world media that capitalism and imperialism has inflicted upon us.



Thank you Maher for a vital piece of evidence.

The Maher piece was written as a comment on this article


by Felix Quigley


August 3, 2008


They claimed 8000 men and boys murdered by the Serbs in Srebrenica. Sometimes 7000 but not quite so often. It was usually 8000.

In reviewing the Irish newspaper of record, The Irish Times, they have written from 1995 to the present in major articles referring to this Srebrenica Massacre where the Serbs murdered 8000 men and boys, going now up to 500 times since 1995, indeed using my limited maths I make that perhaps a major article every 10 days or so.

Are there 2000 such papers and magazines etc in the world doing this? I think so and much more but if so that makes it a million such vital articles broadcast into humanity. All saying the same thing, the endless repetition, that the Serbs murdered 8000 Muslims in Srebrenica.

But there is also The Dutch Report which these media outlets seem to have stuffed deep into the unknown recesses of their filing cabinets. Thanks to Mick Tanzer a regular reader for sending details of this report to 4international. 

“Then there is this astonishing and explosive material from the Dutch “Netherlands Institute for War Documentation” Report [from 2002]This blows the lid off of how Clinton, Albright, the Western media and NATO created the Srebrenica Big Lie:


This report by obviously staid conservative type people has been an absolute eye-opener. This is material that the liars on Harry’s Place will never ever go near. Continue reading


By Felix Quigley

[with help from Mick Tanzeer]

August 1, 2008

Many agencies collaborating in putting together the Srebrenica Hoax story and like all such stories accidents and opportunism played a part. What is not known about is the role of the Dutch political class and how their lies met strong opposition, even very angry opposition, from the Dutch soldiers on the ground who were part of the “peace” keeping forced on them by NATO and the UN.

The report is written in careful official language but it damns all those who created this Monster Srebrenica Hoax story against the valiant Serb people fighting against Fscist Islamist Jihad and its US and British Imperialist promoters.

[start report here]

Investigations among Displaced Persons

These methodological problems, as well as the hindrances created by the Bosnian authorities, also confronted the interviewers who approached the Displaced Persons for information on behalf of various organizations. Important roles were assigned to UNHCR and the International Red Cross, but they were joined from Zagreb by a combined team of the Human Rights Office of Civil Affairs and the UN Centre for Human Rights. Furthermore various other bodies were active, such as the ‘Bosnian State Commission for the collection of information on war crimes’, as well as the Tribunal, Amnesty International and a number of smaller NGOs. Some of these were eager to publicize their findings as soon as possible. As early as 31 July, for instance, the US Committee on Refugees published an extensive report on the ‘death march’ from Srebrenica based on interviews conducted by its staff member Bill Frelick in Tuzla and the surroundings.[1]

Due to the nature of their work most of the organizations were cautious about publicizing politically sensitive information. UNHCR was less reserved Continue reading


By Felix Quigley

August 1, 2008

(From research by Mick Tanzeer)

Dutch report under url

[start report here]

The repercussion and the aftermath until the end of 1995

Chapter 5
The debriefings in Zagreb


17. Investigations among Displaced Persons

These methodological problems, as well as the hindrances created by the Bosnian authorities, also confronted the interviewers who approached the Displaced Persons for information on behalf of various organizations. Important roles were assigned to UNHCR and the International Red Cross, but they were joined from Zagreb by a combined team of the Human Rights Office of Civil Affairs and the UN Centre for Human Rights. Furthermore various other bodies were active, such as the ‘Bosnian State Commission for the collection of information on war crimes’, as well as the Tribunal, Amnesty International and a number of smaller NGOs. Some of these were eager to publicize their findings as soon as possible. As early as 31 July, for instance, the US Committee on Refugees published an extensive report on the ‘death march’ from Srebrenica based on interviews conducted by its staff member Bill Frelick in Tuzla and the surroundings.[1]

Due to the nature of their work most of the organizations were cautious about publicizing politically sensitive information. UNHCR was less reserved in this respect and several times its spokespersons released details from the ‘unconfirmed reports’ by Displaced Persons. This included the suspicion that the VRS had used Dutchbat uniforms to mislead refugees.[2] Serious research, however, was commenced only on 21 July after Protection Officer Manca de Nissa had arrived in Tuzla. He submitted his report a week later, based on 70 interviews with both normal Displaced Persons and survivors of the march. Manca de Nissa did not however draw any conclusions about possible large-scale murders.[3]

It was much more difficult for an organization such as the International Red Cross to publicize findings. The strictly observed neutrality ruled out any statements that could be given a political slant. Another factor in this case was that the delegates were too familiar with the Bosnian propaganda and thus usually regarded the rumours issuing from Tuzla with great suspicion. In a communiqué on 14 July, three days after the fall of the enclave, nothing was said about missing persons or possible summary executions. Nevertheless, staff of the International Red Cross had already gathered much information by this time. Although the International Red Cross had no official access to the men who arrived in Tuzla from 16 July onwards, staff had in fact spoken to several of them. A communiqué of 19 July however mentioned only that the International Red Cross demanded of the Bosnian Serbs that it be given access to prisoners. Still no mention was made of deaths. But according to Christoph Girod of the International Red Cross the pressure was increasing.[4] Consequently, at a press conference on 31 July, Girod referred to the fact that there were 5000 to 6000 missing persons with the statement: ‘We have no indications of this whatsoever’. It was only on 14 August that the International Red Cross first dared to publicly mention the possibility of executions.[5]

The UN headquarters in Zagreb had also issued instructions that Displaced Persons be questioned about possible human rights violations (actually: violations of international humanitarian law). As early as 17 July a mixed team from Civil Affairs/Human Rights Office (HRO) and UNCHR had left for Tuzla Air Base on a fact-finding mission, i.e. to interview the Displaced Persons from Srebrenica. Ken Biser of Civil Affairs in Tuzla had already begun this task after an attempt to travel to Srebrenica, together with HRO staff member Peggy Hicks, had met with the resistance of the Serbs. From 18 July onwards Biser received the support of the team from Zagreb.[6]

A confrontation soon took place with a Field Delegate of the International Red Cross: ‘He bluntly told us that the ICRC was not happy with our work because it potentially interfered with its own work’. According to the delegates it was possible that people would not report certain information to the International Red Cross if they had already spoken to other researchers; they might think it was no longer necessary. The humanitarian debriefers of the two UN organizations ensured that they avoided the potential confusion between the two organizations by telling their respondents that they should afterwards also talk to the International Red Cross.[7]

There were other problems too. The investigation was considerably hindered by the journalists present. Anyone could walk in and out of the relief camps. According to the Swiss investigator R. Salvisberg, UNCHR Bosnia coordinator based in Sarajevo, the journalists encouraged the Displaced Persons to say what they wanted to hear. In his eyes the media were engaged in ‘a sensational hunt’ for the worst crime, and this would then be published in the papers. As a result Salvisberg and his colleagues were constantly working in the wake of newspaper headlines and television sound-bites (however strange it sounds, televisions were soon present in the camp too).[8] The investigators noticed in the process that the journalists were strongly focussed on Dutchbat. This possible distortion made it difficult to discern what the Displaced Persons had experienced themselves and what they were repeating from other sources.[9]

Salvisberg’s team initially took a random approach, with evaluations taking place each day, after which the work became more systematic. The investigators chose a gentle, passive approach. They asked who wanted to talk to them, and then interviewed these people. According to Salvisberg they were not after ‘sexy stories like the ones in the press’.[10] A total of five women came forward who said they had been raped. In general the stories of those who had been transported away in buses were relatively ‘uneventful’. They had experienced few incidents. A picture gradually emerged, but the main question was whether the reported executions were isolated incidents or indications of a widespread phenomenon. It was also very difficult to gain a picture of the number who had been executed, but things certainly gave cause for concern, according to the investigator Peggy Hicks of the Human Rights Office of Civil Affairs in Zagreb.[11]

After about a week the investigators of the two UN organizations noticed that their respondents had been told what to say; they suspected that these instructions came from the Bosnian authorities. The gist of these prompted stories was that the Serbs and the UN (not specifically the Dutch) had been the bad guys, who had ‘sold out’ the people of the enclave. At this time Salvisberg had not yet heard any criticism of the actions of the people’s own Muslim soldiers. It was to be some days before the first stories emerged which also assigned blame to the Bosnian government.[12]

After a few days the team of investigators started looking for men who had entered the Safe Areas following the march. They visited a camp full of soldiers outside Tuzla. This proved a difficult affair: the authority of T. Mazowiecki, the Special Rapporteur for Human Rights who arrived in Tuzla on 22 July, was required to facilitate this visit. This solved only part of the problem: the interviewers were not permitted to approach people themselves but were ‘accompanied’ by the Muslim authorities. ‘They were presented to us’, reported the investigator Hicks. This was supposedly to save the investigators’ time. ‘It made me feel very uneasy’, said Hicks later.[13]

Other investigators shared her experience. According to R. (Roman) Wieruszewski of the UNCHR office in Sarajevo, one of the consequences of this ‘accompaniment’ was that everyone with whom he and his colleagues spoke claimed that he had been unarmed. In later interviews conducted independently of the authorities the interviewees generally declared that of course they had carried weapons, otherwise they would not have survived the march.[14] Sometimes it was women who said that of course the soldiers had been armed. Salvisberg recounted: ‘They even laughed at us when we asked about this.’ He and the other researchers calculated that of the Muslim men, about one-third had been armed and about two-thirds had been unarmed. They gained the impression that there had been an element of organization in the distribution of the available weapons: ‘You get one, you don’t’, which according to them led to conflicts. Other Displaced Persons reported fights between the Muslim soldiers. There were also reports that Bosnian Muslims had executed Serbs.

The impression gained by the research team was that the soldiers had several prepared standard stories, such as a mass murder of 25 people conducted by the Bosnian Serbs, in which the respondent kept under cover or pretended to be dead. ‘We heard this story ten times or so’, said Salvisberg.[15] Although the reconstruction of the march presented problems, the biggest problem proved to be establishing what had happened to the group in Srebrenica and Potocari.[16]

In the first report send by Hicks on 21 July, she nonetheless concluded that there was sufficient basis ‘to believe that significant human rights violations occurred both before and during the transport from Srebrenica’.[17] Much remained unclear, however. In the final report finished by Hicks on 31 July, the issue of numbers remained open. She could do nothing else than to conclude that further investigations were required.[18] It was only in October 1995, following new revelations in the press, that even she realized what the probable scale of the murder had been.[19]

Typical of the problems in defining the events shortly after the fall were the statements made by two high-ranking UN officials in Tuzla. The Peruvian diplomat H. Wieland, the highest official of the UN Centre for Human Rights in the region, said on 23 July that ‘we have not found anyone who saw with their own eyes an atrocity taking place’.[20] On the same day, however, the Special Rapporteur for human rights, Tadeus Mazowiecki, also declared in Tuzla that ‘barbaric’ acts had taken place.[21] Thus for a long time it remained unclear what precisely had happened in Potocari and the surroundings, together with the fate of the thousands of men who had been missing since the fall. A major factor for those concerned was the disbelief that these thousands of men had been murdered in cold blood. It was thus the case that not only did the ‘barometer’ give no clear indications in itself: those reading it were also influenced by their own expectations and assumptions when trying to establish what had really happened. The discussion of the issue as to whether a genocide, or a mass murder, had been committed after the fall of Srebrenica, was to an important extent determined by the various points of departure.

personal notes will follow…FQ


by Mick Tanzeer

August 1, 2008


What the Bosnian Muslim Nazis – led by Izetbegovic and Oric – did to 3,870 Serbs in Srebrenica and Gorazde from 1992 to 1995 , visit this link:

If 7 to 8 thousand “men and boys” were executed at close range by AK-47 military assault rifles and dumped in mass graves, there would have been by now – after over 13 years of time elapsed – 7 to 8 thousand Bosnian Muslim male corpses all with bullets in their backs or heads which would have been dug up and forensically examined.

This of course has never happened as 7 to 8 thousand bodies showing signs of execution were NEVER FOUND.

The place was crawling with UN troops, media people from many different countries, NATO+EU+ CIA/MI6 operatives, was being filmed & photographed by unmanned aerial reconnaisance vehicles, photographed by CIA spy satellites,etc.

Hiding and disposing of 8,000 bodies under all this surveillance without being detected would be about as likely as launching an elephant to the moon with a sling shot.

Even the Dutch troops headed by Captain Schouten who came on the scene shortly afterwards in the adjoining village of Bratunac said they never saw any evidence of a large scale massacre.

Here is a statement made by Dutch UN Captain Schouten:

“Everybody is parroting everybody, but nobody shows hard evidence. I notice that in the Netherlands people want to prove at all costs that genocide has been committed. (…) If executions have taken place, the Serbs have been hiding it damn well. Thus, I don’t believe any of it. The day after the collapse of Srebrenica, July 13, I arrived in Bratunac and stayed there for eight days. I was able to go wherever I wanted to. I was granted all possible assistance; nowhere was I stopped.”

Captain Schouten was the only UN military officer in Bratunac – a town adjoining Srebrenica – at the time a massacre is alleged.


By Felix Quigley

August 1, 2008

Some notes made towards understanding the Srebrenica Massacre


  1. The reality of the Balkan Holocaust, not 60 years ago, but by the year 1980 35 years ago
  2. The rescue of Croatian Nazis by the Vatican. The general rescue of  Nazis by US and British Imperialism
  3. In that context Hajj Amin el Husseini is enabled to escape to Egypt where he promotes the 1948 war on the Jews by the Arabs
  4. According to John Loftus the adoption by the CIA of Islamists members of the Muslim Brotherhood led by Mohammed el Banna
  5. Their transfer to Saudi Arabia still under tutelage of the CIA, a pupil of which was Bin Laden
  6. With the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan Bin Laden and his CIA backed group brought to Afghanistan
  7. Where they helped in the overthrow of communism
  8. This use of Bin Laden is praised by B as something which is normal and common sense
  9. Leading to claims by Gil White that US Imperialism lay behind the ascent of Khomeiny to power as an Islamist dictatorship in Iran
  10. And that the hostage “crisis” was promoted by US Imperialism
  11. Close alliance of US Imperialism (also Germany) with Croatian Nazi Fascism
  12. Promotion of Izetbegovic dream of creating an Islamist state in Bosnia
  13. Direct assistance from earliest stage of the terrorist KLA even as it was labelled as a terror organization by the US legislators themselves
  14. Information from the Muslims that Clinton wanted a massacre at Srebrenica in order to give the excuse for US to intervene in Bosnia against the Serbs
  15. Srebrenica had not been a safe area at all. The Muslim army there never disarmed
  16. The real Srebrenica Massacre carried out by Islamists from 1992 to 1995
  17. Later Naser Oric shows videos of killings to a Toronto reporter
  18. Muslims attack Serbs across the lines, as a come on
  19. Muslim leaders, especially the main leader Naser Oric, had been withdrawn
  20. The Muslims had decided not to defend Srebrenica
  21. A column set off leaving the women and children to the mercy of the Serb army
  22. The women and children are bussed to Tuzla by the Serbs where they were keen to go to
  23. The column is sabotaged by their own Muslim leaders on the column
  24. The main body of the column reaches Tuzla in good order. Later Muslims themselves claim 5000
  25. Muslim prisoners are taken by the Serb army
  26. Everything is being filmed. The Serb army seems not to mind
  27. Srebrenica is taken by the Serbs in June. The US is preparing the horrific murders in the Krajina and the total ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Serbs from the Krajina where they had lived for hundreds of years, never to return, which happens about a month later
  28. That same month later Madeleine *** made that infamous claim on television concerning the picture of a mass grave
  29. Various entities flock to Tuzla to speak to the “refugees”. These entities range from the respectable to the very dubious.
  30. The Red Cross is respectable and responsible, the Human Rights group from Croatia is CIA backed, the Newspapers of the West start to coach Muslims looking for lurid stories. But still no mention of a massacre
  31. Asked were the Muslim soldiers in the safe area of Srebrenica armed the refugees laughed at the question. Of course they were. These Srebrenica “civilians” were part of a closely knit garrison and they would have been totally aware of the murdering Naser Oric and friends. Naser Oric was the Number 1 warlord and would have been as familiar to these politicised “civilians” as say Adams was in West Belfast or McGuinness was in Derry!
  32. The first stories of Serb executions emerge from these Muslim sources. The Red Cross notices that 10 or 12 stories follow a pattern. For example, the witness lies at the bottom of bodies and survives…this happening over and over again. They are obviously being coached by the Izetbegovic Islamist Fascist Nazi leadership of the SDA
  33. The Red Cross is perturbed by these groups. The Red Cross is collecting evidence in a more disciplined manner. But things soon move right out of its control. The Media walk in and out as they please. Stories start to be spun on the Media, especially on television (CNN et al). Then an amazing thing happens. Televisions mushroom in the camp area and the whole thing starts to become like a feeding frenzy of who has the best story to tell. Remember these Muslims from Srebrenica hate Serbs plus they are being coached by the Nazis
  34. The entry of the Dutch politicians on the scene is very damaging to the Serbs. The outstanding thing about this is that there is sharp conflict between these politicians who know nothing but hate Serbs and Serbia and the Dutch soldiers who were on the spot during the “Srebrenica Massacre” and who are well aware of the tricks of the Nazi Izetbegovic side.
  35. These Dutch politicians had much clout, especially among the rulers of the EU
  36. Finally after some time a figure of 8000 of a massacre in Srebrenica was arrived at. Repetition equals imprinting. My studies of the Irish Times from then until today shows hundreds of stories, all imprint the truth and reality of a massacre of 8000 Muslim men and boys, which in my opinion never happened. We are living out the Orwellian nightmare.
  37. The nightmare intensifies at the illegal NATO court.At the Hague Court this was repeated as fact. The discredited method of coaching and bribing even of witnesses was wholesale
  38. So no understanding of this phenomenon is possible without understanding the contrived nature of the setting up of the NATO court. Not set up by the UN. Not even set up by the Security Council of the UN. But by 3 NATO members and excluding China and Russia who would have vetoed. It was a NATO Court in origin and certainly was totally financed and staffed by NATO
  39. So their claim about a Massacre means nothing. Plus the evidence that they used to make this claim can be questioned


We will leave no 40 empty. A new phase of this iniquity is going to be enacted with the trial of Karadzic


by Felix Quigley

August 1, 2008

One of the major defences which Radovan Karodzic must put to the Hague Kangaroo Court is “Who were the Serbs actually fighting in Bosnia?”

This may help.

Consider their leader Elija Izetbegovic. We have done a lot of work on this. Remember that Izetbegovic was a member from 1939 to 1945 of the Nazi Muslim Brotherhood.


As was Hajj Amin el Husseini. So Izetbegovic was heavily implicated in the Holocaust of Jews, Serbs and Romany in Bosnia.

Now consider these photos of Hajj Amin el Husseini and remember that this monster and Izetbegovic enjoyed joint membership of the secret Nazi Muslim Brotherhood

Censored: Bosnia’s Nazi Past

Bosnia’s Nazi past and role in the genocide of Bosnian and Krajina Serbs, Jews, and Roma during World War II has long been censored and covered-up in the U.S. and the so-called West. Film footage exists, however, of the Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS troops and Imams in the Handschar and Kama Nazi SS Divisions. Continue reading


By Felix Quigley

August 1, 2008

Karadzic is now in a prison in the Hague and the whole apparatus of repression of this illegal NATO Court is ranged against him.

I ask the question here: Who were the Serbs fighting in Bosnia?

Were these MODERATE Muslims who they were forced to fight? Or were they extremists?

This article will go partly to answer that: This information has been put together by the excellent Carl Savich on the equally excellent site:

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Alija Izetbegovic with Al-Qaeda and mujahedeen forces who were part of the Bosnian Muslim Army.

Ali Ahmed Ali Hamad, an Al-Qaeda commander who was part of the Bosnian Muslim Army during the 1992-1995 civil, testified under oath at the war crimes trial of Bosnian Muslim military commander Rasim Delic that the Bosnian Muslim Government of Alija Izetnegovic had knowledge of Al-Qaeda war crimes against Bosnian Serb civilians and POWs but did nothing to prevent or punish them. Continue reading