IS THE US ELITE AND IRANIAN FASCISTS PLAYING A GAME TO DESTROY ISRAEL?

On 4international we believe that it is most unlikely that US intelligence could have been taken in by Amiri. Consider the possibility then that they were not taken in for one moment. What conclusion then has to be drawn. That the US elite and the Iranian Fascists are playing a game, that it is a pretence that they are opposed to each other. the conclusion is that the US will allow Iran to get the Bomb, that it does not worry at all about a strike against Israel because the US elite is antisemitic and is opposed deep down to Israel anyway

Follow this story about this strange character Amiri drom DEBKAfile

US and Israel fear Iranian nuclear test this year
DEBKAfile DEBKA-Net-Weekly July 19, 2010
 
Shahram Amiri’s heroes’ welcome raised suspicions

Shahram Amiri’s voluntary repatriation to Iran and a second close look at the nuclear data he passed to the CIA are raising grave doubts about its value, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. There is mounting suspicion in Washington and Jerusalem that Tehran employed the scientist to strew red herrings in their path, namely, out-of-date material for concealing and misdirecting their attention from the rapid progress taking place secretly in Iran’s nuclear program.
A high-ranking intelligence source in Washington remarked Monday, July 19, that he would not be surprised “if we woke up one morning to find the Iranians had conducted an underground nuclear test.” This was not to say Iran had a bomb or nuclear warhead ready packed for delivery, he said, “Only that it was a lot closer to this option than the Americans and Israelis had been led to believe.”
Therefore, as of now, their forecast of a nuclear test capability has been brought forward to within the five months remaining of 2010.
Our sources report this revised forecast has emerged from US intelligence analysts’ examination of two new premises regarding Amirir’s input in the years he served as US informant:

1. That he was an Iranian double agent and his apparent defection to the United States just over a year ago was fake, engineered by Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS).
2.  That Shahram Amiri, the nuclear scientist, was a made-up identity. After he landed to a heroes’ welcome in Tehran last Thursday, July 15, Deputy Foreign Minister Hassan Qashqavi said:  “Shahram Amiri is not a nuclear scientist and we reject it.

Another Iranian official called him a clever spy who had managed to infiltrate US intelligence and deceive them for years.
As DEBKA-Net-Weekly 453 revealed on July 16, Amiri’s work with the CIA did not begin in 2007but three years earlier in 2004.
 

The following is a short excerpt from that issue:
Many moves made by the administrations under George W. Bush and, since January 2009, Barack Obama, were based on the information and documents that Amiri provided.
If Amiri was a double agent planted by the MOIS, then Tehran had been able to manipulate these policies and anticipate their course.

Even if real nuggets were mixed in with the false data – a common ruse for making false intelligence appear credible – it still meant that Iran’s leaders controlled the flow of factual information to the West and were in a position to change it in good time – so that when Amiri was asked by his US handlers to amplify on a piece of real information, it was no longer valid; Iran had moved on and created a new set of facts, unbeknownst to the Americans.

A striking example of this tactic was the secret enrichment plant in a mountain near Qom, which became the subject of a dramatic joint appearance on Sept. 25, 2009 in Pittsburgh by President Obama, French president Nicolas Sarkozy and George Brown, then British prime minister.
The US president’s knowledge was based on data Amiri had relayed to the United States.
Throwing down the gauntlet, the US president gave Iran a two-week ultimatum to come clean on its hidden facility.
In fact, the Qom facilities had been dismantled six months earlier and relocated to a spot never revealed to this day. When the IAEA inspectors turned up, they found empty tunnels.
That is why nothing more was ever heard of the US president’s ultimatum.

Only in recent months, have US and allied agencies begun to appreciate that this technique of misdirection allowed Iran to pursue its nuclear and missile programs out of sight of spies and monitors. While the West and Israel relied on Amiri to keep them abreast of Iran’s activities, nuclear development work went forward at still unknown locations and may have progressed a lot further than is suspected in the West.

http://www.debka.com/article/8918/

DOES NOBODY IN THE WORLD CARE IF 6 MILLIONS OF JEWS ARE MURDERED AGAIN?

The position of Mr Ken Timmerman on a Spanish radio show (Talk Radio Europe, Stephen Gilmour show 8 to 11 pm) just last Friday was that the US should get behind the protest in Iran against Ahmadinejad.

We on 4international are 100 per cent behind the protests and the movement against Ahmadinejad and we wish to do everything in our power to help.

But that is not the point made by Ken Timmerman. He was taking the line that in order to stop Ahmadinejad getting and using Nuclear Bombs it is necessary to have a revolution against the Mullahs of Ahmadinejad

THAT IS WRONG! THAT IS A DEADLY TRAP WHICH MAY CAUSE THE LIVES OF 5 MILLIONS OF JEWS IN ISRAEL!

Of course a revolution would be good but YOU CANNOT ASK JEWS TO WAIT AND HOPE FOR THE SUCCESS OF THAT. To my mind saying that adds up to me using a very strong word indeed. That word begins with a and contains s.

There is only ONE WAY! That is for Israel to be prepared to use all of the force that it has and to attack with all of its power, regardless of all consequences, because these consequences are NOT the concern or responsibility of Israel.

NO JEW IN HISTORY HAS EVER BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE MILLIONTH OF AN ATOM OF ANTISEMITISM IN THE WORLD

and

ISRAEL IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ANTISEMITISM OF AHMADINEJAD

But then a reader may ask? Can Israel do this on its own without America? The answer is two fold

1. Yes it can. Israel can strike Iran with full force without America

2. Turn the question around: Israel can not do this with America because America is holding Israel back

This was the peculair thing in the game that was being played out in the interview I heard between Steven Gilmour and Ken Timmerman on last Friday night.

At no time was it even mentioned that the US Government under Bush, and now a thousand times more, under Obama has been holding Israel back, even by threats

WHY DID TIMMERMANN NOT RAISE THAT IN A GRAPHIC MANNER? DOES HE NOT KNOW? OF COURSE HE KNOWS THIS SO VERY WELL! SO WHAT THEN IS THE GAME OF TIMMERMAN?

THE EXACT SAME QUESTION APPLIES TO GILMOUR? WHAT IS HIS GAME?

What are these kinds of people actually playing at? What IS their game?

I mean this really is not rocket science. If I type these words into google:

“US holding israel back from striking iran”

The first 4 entries on google, usually the most important, indicates that the US is holding Israel back.

Why does Gilmour and Timmerman not raise this as a vital point? I repeat FOR THE THIRD TIME what is their game?

The entry from respected Asia News has this on the google blurb, in other words it is sitting there without even clicking on the article itself:

18 Feb 2010 It seems clear that the administration of US President Barack Obama never will use force against Iran, At best, Israeli efforts could set the program back a year or so. …. See Israel should heed Obama’s warning not to strike Iran

Repeat for Timmerman and Gilmour taken from above google inquiry

NOT TO STRIKE IRAN—OBAMA´S WARNING (TO ISRAEL)

A year ago I spoke to Gilmour on air and I raised issues of the wish of Iran to make chaos in the world as part of their weird religious belief that some figure was going to emerge to lead them to world Islamic power

Gilmour did not laugh in my face but he did laugh at me in his own way when I hung up. He said he had been giving me enough rope to let me hang myself

That turned me completely against Gilmour and his ways. Why was he not straight to my face when I was on air and speaking in a reasoned manner with him. And argue the issues out openly to my face.

What is this business about “enough rope to hang myself”?

That is so absurd! We were discussing Iran getting the Nuclear Bomb and their threats made against Israel, and hence the danger of another Shoah (or Holocaust) 

After that in many discussions over many months with Peter Eyre of Palestine Telegraph (courtesy by the way of the owner of the radio station, a prominent Dublin jewish man called Maurice Boland) Gilmour fought on an opposite tack completely, that Iran was no threat. That it was all empty propaganda.

But Timmerman, who despite what I say above does understand the Iranian nuclear intentions, pointed out ON FRIDAY LAST that Iran will be able to hit all of Europe, including Spain, with Nuclear weapons

In the meantime Gilmour found time to issue a libel writ against me which I was not prepared to fight because of my knowledge of the reactionary British Libel Laws, and most importantly I do not have the time, because I firmly believe that the lives of 5 or 6 million Jews are in danger, and I wish to devote my life to trying to stop that.

Back to the present although these issues are connected:

It is so wrong for Timmerman to talk about Israel holding off and seeing if the opposition in Iran can help Israel. Israel and Jews can save their own skins only by acting independently. If they wait for anybody else to help them they are sunk. Is that not the history of the Jewish people over 3000 years?

We live in a world which is dominated by antisemitism and by nations looking after their own self interest.

It is just very unfortunate, very sad, that human society in this cut throat imperialist capitalist world is set up in this way.

But if Israel does not stop BY FORCE Iran, its minions in Hamas and Hizbullah, now backed openly by Syria and Turkey, with all of the Arab World still full of Jew Hatred, then Israel will be destroyed.

The worst of all enemies lie on the fascist left…that is those who call themselves “socialist”, what a joke that is!

Look back over the articles posted here on 4international. We have repeatedly said that Iran was preparing rapidly the Nuclear Bomb and that the lives of millions of Jews were threatened.

DOES NOBODY IN THIS WORLD CARE? WE HAVE HAD HARDLY A DECENT COMMENT ON THIS? WHAT IS UP?