4INTERNATIONAL AFFIRMS ONCE MORE…THE SREBRENICA “MASSACRE” WAS AND IS A GIANT LIE

THE SREBRENICA “MASSACRE” WAS AND IS A GIANT LIE

 

THAT IS WHERE WE ON WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME STAND, ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL…

 

WE STAND COMPLETELY BEHIND THIS STATEMENT BY JARED ISRAEL:

 

“The Srebrenica massacre charge is a slander that only has credibility because it
has been presented so much and so often, with such powerful forces behind not, and because some Serbs and foreign intellectuals have — for whatever reasons — falsely admitted guilt on
behalf of RS.”

http://www.vidovdan.org/arhiva/article2481.html

 

AND OVER COMING WEEKS WE INTEND TO PROVE THIS. BUT WHY? WHY BOTHER? WHY IS THE WHOLE OF THE WORLD MEDIA LINING UP BEHIND THIS BIG LIE WHICH MAKES THE TRUTH SO DIFFICULT TO GET ACROSS?

 

IN FACT IF THE SREBRENICA BIG LIE STANDS THEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR SCIENCE TO STAND…THE FOLLOWING GETS TO THE HEART OF IT:

 

The issue of the destruction of Yugoslavia remains as yet a mystery.

The Serbs had fought with the Allies to defeat the Nazis. Had collective memory ended?

Leading in destroying their nation was their former allies, but those allies were now joined with precisely the Germans and Muslims, precisely those they had fought against together. What had happened?

On the one hand this was a terrible betrayal of trust, a moral issue.

But on the other it calls again into question the nature of the war against the Nazis especially in so far as the elites were concerned.

This also raises the issue of the war itself. It is a fact that Trotsky never gave his support to the war because he reasoned that it was an imperialist war, a war between the Imperialists.

I do not think that this meant that Trotsky would oppose war actions against the Nazis. After all Trotsky had called (IN 1933!) for the Red Army to act against Hitler.

But it WAS an imperialist war and this was demonstrated most clearly when the British, French and Americans were recruiting tens of thousands of top Nazis into their anti-communist movements even before the Jews were out of the death camps. They were recruiting the very killers of the Jews. So what was the talk about liberty etc. of Churchill all about!?

Yet if the “Desert Rats” who were British forces not defeated Rommel in North Africa then the Jews of Palestine would have been genocided in total since the Nazis under Gehlen, who was under Hajj Amin el Husseini and Himmler/Eichmann, were ready to move in.

Then again a little later the nephew of top Nazi Hajj Amin el Husseini, a man who became known as Yasser Arafat, was essentially recruited by the US and Europe, with the Norwegians to the front, to plan a new Holocaust of the Jews in the First and Second so-called Intifadas.

THIS was the context of the destruction of Yugoslavia.

On the surface it looked as if the likes of the Guardian had turned on their former ally, the Serbs, and were supporting the Nazis behind Izetbegovic.

But it was just more of the same.

The alliance against Hitler’s Nazis was thus opportunist. They had joined precisely those Nazis in 1945. So their betrayal of the Serbs who HAD fought the Nazis in the Second World War should not have been that big a surprise.

But it was and the Serb leaders did not fully understand that

 

The Yugoslavian crisis covers the whole of this historical period. It started in the 1980s. Her we are over 30 years later and Mladic is being tried by the very criminals of NATO whom we will prove in these pages over coming weeks were responsible (I am speaking here of the Alliance of western capitalism with Islam and Sharia which Bat yeor describes but does not correctly label)

We fight in solidarity with all who are defending Mladic.

But this is a discussion. There are many differences between the 4international and all others.

These points are worth making as we start to follow the Mladic issue:

 

THE CENTRAL ISSUE WAS AND IS THE TERMINAL CRISIS OF CAPITALISM

THE DRIVE BY CAPITALISM TO WORLD DICTATORSHIP

A WORLD WIDE PHENOPMENON…THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM HAS CREATED A WORLD UNIFIED ECONOMY

CANNOT SEPARATE YUGOSLAVIA AND THE CIA, FROM GADHAFI AND THE CIA, FROM MUBARAK AND THE CIA, ETC. ETC.

HOW DO THEY FIGHT? WHAT IS OVERALL STRATEGY OF THE ENEMY?

 

(WE MENTION HERE 3 ELEMENTS)

CORRUPTION OF THE “LEFT” (TO EXPAND ON LATER)

GRAND STRATEGY OF CAPITALISM IS ALLIANCE OF WESTERN CAPITALISM AND ISLAM

IN WHICH ANTISEMITISM (PALESTINISM) PLAYS A CENTRAL ROLE AS IT ALWAYS HAS

 

 

TO REPEAT AND EMPHASISE…THE SERBS WERE UNKNOWINGLY FIGHTING AGAINST THIS ALLIANCE

(THE ALLIANCE OF WESTERN GOVERNMENTS WITH ISLAM)

THUS IZETBEGOVIC WHO WAS IN ACTUALITY THE FASCIST, SHARIA LOVING, NAZI, AND NAZI FRIEND OF EL HUSSEINI, HAD TO BE PROMOTED AS A “GOOD GUY” BY THE SERVILE GUARDIAN-TYPE MEDIA)

 

AND THAT SET THE SCENE FOR THE ORGY OF LIES ABOUT YUGOSLAVIA STILL GOING STRONG.

JOIN 4INTERNATIONAL AND FIGHT TO DEFEND MLADIC UNCONDITIONALL AGAINST MEDIA LIES

SHORT STATEMENT ON THE MLADIC TRIAL BY WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME

 

The Mladic Trial poses above all a new leadership in the world, based on the only revolutionary class, the working class.

This new leadership has got very special relevance for Jews who face great danger from Palestinism Antisemitism cum Terrorism. Antisemitism grows apace out of this Fascist Palestinism!

Against the Nazis of the Croats and Bosnian Muslims the Serbs did not stand a chance, but pause to understand why they had no chance. The Fascists killing the Serbs were backed by the Media and by every Western Government bar none.

Meanwhile the Serbs were stabbed in the back by the Stalinist remnants in Russia and China. For example the Chinese are clearly economist Stalinists, and the Russians through Gorbachev and Yeltsin were all about making deals with Imperialism.

And the Serbs HAD TO return to the principles of Trotsky.

But how could they do that? There was no Trotskyist movement to lead and to make the political positions of Trotskyism known, while so called Trotskyists like

www.wsws.org are traitors clearly. (I will be interested to see what THEY have to say on the Mladic trial)

It touches also on the issue of nation and nationalism. Lenin was wrong on this. Trotsky also at that time.

But Trotsky was to change very much as the 30s went on.

Trotsky was much influenced by the way that Stalin used antisemitism inside Russia and indeed Trotsky came to advocate a Jewish state in Palestine.

Trotsky became the first Zionist from a true revolutionary socialist viewpoint. That is what links the Serb issue, and the Jewish issue, partly religious freedom that Marx stood for, and partly the nation, nationalism.

It is late in the day and we have to urgently build a cadre of fighters who understand these issues. And build this cadre in a period of capitalist crisis.

There is a link between the Mladic trial and the capitalist crisis driving millions onto the dole.

DEFEND MLADIC AGAINST THE SREBRENICA MASSACRE HOAX

IF WE ALLOW THIS SREBRENICA MASSACRE HOAX TO STAND THEN THE WORKING CLASS IS LOST.

 

This is because this is a massive lie that has been elaborated by the Media, and if they get off with this, they can get off with anything, lies against workers in struggle, lies against trade unionists, above all lies against Jewish people, so there is a lot at stake.

 

It is significant that in the very first day of the trial of Mladic these liars are exposed. They have not provided the defence with thousands of pages of evidence which the defence needs.

 

From this I conclude that this Hague Lies Operation is also in crisis, and is propped up mainly by a Media which lies everywhere.

 

WHY THEN DEAL WITH SREBRENICA AT ALL. THIS IS THE TAKE OF VETERAN SERB CAMPAIGNER JARED ISRAEL ON THE WHY OF IT ALL….

 

Overview:

 

Why should one read articles refuting the charge

 

 that Serbs committed mass murder in Srebrenica?

by Jared Israel
Emperor’s Clothes

UN document detailing crimes against Serbs in and around Srebrenica, 1992-1993
PDF files
Comments by Petar Makara
Emperor’s Clothes

[10 June 2005]

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[ www.tenc.net ]

Overview

July 11 is the tenth anniversary of the recapture of the East Bosnian town of Srebrenica by Bosnian Serb troops. In coming weeks we will be sending you a number of pieces challenging the official story about Srebrenica. According to the official account, after the Serbs re-took Srebrenica, they slaughtered 8000 Muslim men.

Why should people read articles challenging this massacre story? After all, it’s consistent with what one has been told: that Srebrenica was a safe haven where the UN was supposed to protect Muslims from supposedly murderous Serbs; that the Muslims, portrayed in the media as an oppressed group, were moderate and tolerant while the Serbs were supposedly fanatical Muslim-haters with a Hitlerian vision of a mono-ethnic state; that therefore it was no surprise that when the Serbs took Srebrenica, they supposedly killed thousands of Muslims as fast as they could.

Why should you read material challenging the Srebrenica massacre story when you, dear reader, have limited time and you may have read nothing in the media that would cast doubt on any of the above?

My answer is, that is precisely why you should be skeptical about the massacre story. 

Permit me to explain.

The credibility of the official massacre story depends on the credibility of media coverage of Yugoslavia in general and of what happened in Eastern Bosnia, including Srebrenica, in particular.  If that coverage has been objective, why should one entertain the possibility that the entire media has manufactured or gone along with lies about a supposed giant massacre? 

How might the media objectively cover a bitter conflict like the one in Bosnia?  First, it would endeavor to fairly report what each side said, giving them equal time.  Then it would investigate claims.  For example, if each side accused the other of spreading hate propaganda, the media might publish each side’s claims and then compare those claims to samples of each side’s propaganda, both written material and what was said at rallies and in mass meetings.  If each accused the other of atrocities, the media could publish the accounts of both sides, and then do hard investigative work to see who – if anyone – was telling the truth. It would hunt for lies, because what people lie about is most revealing.

If you are like most, you have no idea what the Serbs said about what happened in and around Srebrenica from the time the Bosnian war started in the spring of 1992 until the so-called fall of Srebrenica in 1995.  No idea at all.  And therein lies the evidence that the media cannot be trusted about Srebrenica: because in fact, the Serbs said, and published, a great deal about Muslim extremist atrocities against them, but the Western media published virtually none of it. What was published by the Western media stands out for the same reason that gold stands out, because it is rare.

For the Western media to have lied for the past ten years about Srebrenica assumes that the media has been organized, by whatever means, to distort information.  It is hard – and rather awful – to believe that such a level of organization for lying could exist. But exactly the same level of organization is required in order for the entire media not to have sought out Serbian eye-witness accounts and human interest stories, to have suppressed almost all evidence of funerals of Serb victims, news reports in the Serbian media, documents and photographs distributed by the government of Serbia and by the Bosnian Serb government and army, and so on. The public is unaware of the existence of such data because the media has suppressed almost all of it. You, by the very fact that you have not seen this material, are living proof.

Let me give you an example. 

In June 1993 the United Nations published a 132-page report entitled “Memorandum on War Crimes and Crimes of Genocide in Eastern Bosnia (communes of Bratunac, Skelani and Srebrenica) committed against the Serbian population from April 1992 to April 1993.” Note the dates: April 1992 was the very beginning of the war in Bosnia.  The Serbs charged that from the outset of the war the so-called Bosnian government (they say it was a government run by a faction of Muslims, the extremist faction) had a policy of genocide against Serbs.

You never heard of this document? I am not surprised.  I checked with the Lexis-Nexis media search engine. I could not find a single English-language newspaper or TV news program that reported that it existed

The point is, in order for the public to come to any judgment about the accuracy of this UN document, it had to know the document existed and what was in it. To that end, the media of course should have reported the existence of said document and what it charged, with extensive quotations in newspapers of record such as the New York Times, and it should have seriously investigated the horrific charges. 

The undeniable fact that most people, at least (but not only) in the NATO countries, are completely ignorant of what the Serbs wrote and said about Muslim extremist crimes against Serbs in Eastern Bosnia, including Srebrenica, is sufficient to make a prima facie case that media reporting concerning Eastern Bosnia, including Srebrenica, has been anti-Serb propaganda, not news.  Thus there is every reason for you to be skeptical concerning media claims about a supposed huge massacre by Serbs in Srebrenica.  By suppressing virtually everything said and written by the Serbian side in the bitter Bosnian conflict, the media has perjured itself.  Would you accept, on faith, the word of a perjured witness?

Below are links to the pdf files of the UN report so that you may read it, only 12 years late.

Jared Israel
Editor, Emperor’s Clothes
 

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Memorandum on War Crimes and Crimes of Genocide in Eastern Bosnia (communes of Bratunac, Skelani and Srebrenica) committed against the Serbian population from April 1992 to April 1993.

A/46/171 and S/25635

Item 115 (c) of the preliminary list
Human Rights Questions: Human Rights Situations and Reports of Special Rapporteurs and Representatives

2 June 1993

Note: Four sections of the UN document repeat the same three introductory pages, followed by the appropriate texts.   

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Comments by Petar Makara


Consulting Editor, Emperor’s Clothes

The horror that Bosnian Serbs suffered at the hands of Muslims in the vicinity of Srebrenica is no secret. The Yugoslav State Commission for War Crimes submitted a 132 page study presenting this Serbian suffering as early as May 24, 1993 to the United Nations Security Council. Representatives of Republika Srpska (the Bosnian Serb Republic) were not allowed to submit similar documents because  Republika Srpska was not recognized by the United Nations. Yugoslavia, as a UN member state (since 1945) and one of its  founding nations, was allowed to submit this document.

The Security Council admitted the study as an official United Nations document. The document was given UN id numbers A/46/171 and S/25635 and dated 2 June 1993.

Many UN documents, crucial for understanding the civil wars in Bosnia in 1990’s, were, on American insistence, declared classified. But this document was not. Its distribution was marked “General.” Any Western journalist could have stopped by room GA57 in the basement of the U.N. Building at the corner of 46th Street and 1st Ave. in New York and gotten a copy. Or they could just called the U.N. Public Inquiry Office at (212) 963-4475 and ordered it.

If the contents of this document are false, why didn’t the Western media report it and refute it?  Its suppression eloquently proclaims its validity and the dishonesty of the media that suppressed the very news of its existence.

We present it in its entirety. More. It is scanned in original form. You can print the PDF files and you will have a photo-copy of the original.

— Petar Makara
Emperor’s Clothes

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Introduction
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-intro.pdf 
Pages 1 – 21 of the document. Historical background. Serbian suffering in the region. Repeated acts of hostility toward the Serbian population in and around Srebrenica, this time in the 1990s. A list of recent Serbian victims of Muslim crime.

The list of Serbian victims
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-victims.pdf 
Pages 22 – 40 of the document. Bosnian Serbs from in and around Srebrenica murdered by Bosnian Muslims from April 20, 1992 to April 5, 1993, organized by date, victim’s first name, father’s name (in parenthesis), last name, year of birth, place of birth, county.

Massacres
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-massacred.pdf 
Pages 41 – 51 of the document. General description of the crimes committed: Types of torture and murder, plunder of Serbian property, cleansing of the Serbian population.

Muslim perpetrators
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-perpetrators.pdf 
Pages 52 – 80 of the document. Bosnian Muslim perpetrators. Their full names, types of crime committed. Places and dates of their crimes.

Victims’ statements – part 1
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-statements-1.pdf 
Pages 81 – 104 of the document. Some surviving Serbian victims tell, in their own words, what they went through and how they survived.

Victims’ statements – part 2
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-statements-2.pdf 
Pages 105 – 132 of the document. Continuation: surviving Serbian victims tell what they went through.

 

NO REPORTING INSIDE THAT FIRST MONTH…THE HOAX TOOK TIME TO ASSEMBLE!

 

MLADIC IS UP ON TRIAL IN THE HAGUE AND HE HAS TO OVERTURN THE BIGGEST LIE AND HOAX EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. IT IS A HUGE TASK BECAUSE THE WHOLE MEDIA IS ROTTEN AND CORRUPT
 
 
IN 2008, 4 YEARS, AGO,  WE NOTICED SOMETHING VERY PECULIAR ABOUT THE MEDIA AND THIS “MASSACRE”
 
IT TOOK THE MEDIA MONTHS AND MONTHS FOR THE MEDIA TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH A MASSACRE AT ALL.
 
TO US THAT MEANT THAT IT TOOK TIME TO ASSEMBLE THE LIE
 

 

 

 

 

August 5, 2008

 

 

Just recently I noticed that somebody called John Peter Maher has provided us with a vital piece of evidence. The place was interesting. The writer was responding to the scurrilous attack on the Serbs and Karadzic by Pajamas Media and Phyllis Chesler. I wish to report the highlights of this research here because it confirms other research that I have been doing in recent times on the record of Irish newspaper of record The Irish Times.

 

I discovered hundreds of articles on the Irish Times all asserting the Massacre of 8000 men and boys, which is a hoax. I reckoned this means that there would be a major article on this Srebrenica issue in the Irish Times of about one every ten days.

 

But there were none at the time of the alleged massacre, and none for at least a couple of months after the alleged event. In other words there was a very strange gap.

 

This simple fact backs up the reports of the Dutch soldiers (not the Dutch politicians) on the ground who stated that they knew of no murders by the Serbs.

 

 

That is basically no Srebrenica Massacre for the Irish Times to report on at all until it was essentially put together by false stories by a whole number of people connected with the EU, Dutch politicians (but not Dutch soldiers who were on the spot, US politicians in the UN like Albright etc etc.

 

 

The putting together of the story thus needed time. It also needed ambiguity and mystery.

 

 

So for example these liars created a mystery about missing Muslims which they numbered as thousands of missing Muslims. They were not missing at all. Those thousands had reached Tuzla. So this initial period is very important to understand how this Lie was created. The great strength of the work of this writer is that he focusses on just this period.

 

 

Hence in reading those comments in answer to the scurrilous piece by Phyllis Chesler I fairly pricked up my ears when I saw what John Peter Maher was writing.

 

At least Pajamas Media allows some dissenting opinion although some of our readers and supporters have been censured.

 

But in any case this one reader has placed a number of comments which are a direct challenge to the whole of the Srebrenica Hoax story. I will reprint some of his work here and I thank that writer for his invaluable contribution.

 

It is so important because it deals with the period immediately following the retaking of Srebrenica, and especially during that first month until Albright made her false accusations to the closed session of the Security Council of the UN. That is the key period to understanding how the greatest hoax in the history of humanity was created.

 

[start quote here]

 

John Peter Maher:

When did commentators first start using the formulation, the catch phrase, “The Srebrenica Massacre [of x-thousands of Muslim men and boys]”?

When did the “Srebrenica Massacre” story break?

No reports from 10 July 1995 and the immediately ensuing days and weeks ever refer to “the massacre of 8000 (or 7000 etc) Muslim men and boys”.

FROM Iran, no mention of a massacre having taken place:

“Iranian foreign minister [Velayati], in a message to the UN secretary-general, has asked for immediate action to prevent a massacre of the defenceless people of Srebrenica by the Serb rebels. SOURCE: Vision of the Islamic Republic of Iran Network 1, Tehran, in Persian 0930 gmt 11 Jul 95; Source: Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran Network 1, Tehran, in Persian 0930 gmt 11 Jul 95; SECTION: Part 4 Middle East; THE MIDDLE EAST; IRAN; ME/2353/MED. Message to UN secretary-general. Text of report by Iranian TV on 11th July.

From the front, no mention of a massacre having taken place:

Reports from the front in mid-July 1995, e.g. Chris Hedges in the New York Times of 18 July 1995, reported that thousands of armed Muslim fighters “slipped” through Serb lines under fire and arriving safe in Tuzla, held by Muslim forces (and a US garrison).

The lag time between as yet unbaptized “Srebrenica Massacre” on 10-11 July 1995 and the first press reports is over a month. David Rohde, who spearheaded the story that became known as “the Srebrenica Massacre”, did not himself use any such phrase or make such a claim. In his story, in the Guardian of 19 August 19 1995 we find “…I saw what appeared to be a decomposing human leg protruding from freshly turned dirt…” He repeated Albright’s fabrication about a massacre in a soccer stadium in a nearby town, [where] human faeces, blood, and other evidence indicated large numbers of people were confined, and perhaps shot.” Also: “United Nations official estimate that 4,000 to 6,000 Muslim men are still missing in the wake of the Srebrenica and Zepa assaults.”

Zbigniew Brzezinski:
The news would have still been hot when Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote an Op-Ed piece in “The New Republic” of 7 August 1995, under the headline: AFTER SREBRENICA. Zbig Brzezinski says only that something awful “might” happen.

Nowhere does Brzezinski mention a “Srebrenica massacre”. That catch phrase does not appear until weeks after the alleged event. It will not be found in the press until the American-sponsored Croatian “Storm” (Oluja) on Serb Krajina in August-September 1995.

(In)Consistency: Madeleine Korbel Albright, whose “Albright Group” now has the franchise for the cell phone business in Kosovo, brought the earliest allegation of a Serb massacre of Muslims on August 11, 1995. The chief United States delegate to the United Nations told a closed session of the Security Council that 2,000 to 2,700 missing Bosnians from the Srebrenica enclave might have been shot by the Bosnian Serbs.– She did not use the formulation “Srebrenica massacre.”

So, the numbers in Albright’s document and subsequent tellings and re-tellings are not consistent. What this implies we know from the Book of Daniel, chapter 13, where Susanna is denounced by corrupt Elders. Since their testimonies were inconsistent, as Daniel showed by “debriefing” the corrupt judges separately, the judges were condemned for bearing false witness.

LEXIS-NEXIS searches now permit us to track down press reports on whatever story. Readers can see for themselves what results turn up in searches dated between 10 July 1995 and the beginning of October 1995, using parameters such as

(Srebrenica AND massacre)
(Srebrenica AND missing)
Srebrenica AND 7000 OR 8000)
(7000-8000 men and boys) …

(Koranically, once boys attain the age of fifteen, they are “warriors” for Islam.)Remeber boy bombers in Israel.

Did the Srebrenica Massacre” happen? Draw your own conclusions.
Remember the the “Jenin Massacre” in the world press’ satanization of Israel

Jul 28, 2008 – 1:59 am John Peter Maher:

 

 

 

Just to repeat what John Peter Maher said once more:

 

“Madeleine Korbel Albright, whose “Albright Group” now has the franchise for the cell phone business in Kosovo, brought the earliest allegation of a Serb massacre of Muslims on August 11, 1995”.

 

And this was a lie and based on lies.

 

 

The hoax was constructed around the whole lie, or speculation, that there were thousands missing.

 

 

By about 2 weeks later though Chris Hedges of the New York Times no less had totally taken the ground from under that speculation with his article that the thousands missing had reached Tuzla, a Muslim and US controlled stronghold.

 

 

Hence as Maher points out a dearth of reports in the Media because essentially there was nothing to report on.

 

This Srebrenica Massacre is a Giant Lie. It never happened. It was made to happen by the repetition hundreds of thousands of times by a World Media which is totally corrupt.

 

 

To understand this giant lie you have to understand the giant corruption in this giant world media that capitalism and imperialism has inflicted upon us.

 

 

Thank you Maher for a vital piece of evidence.

SREBRENICA WAS A PLACE WHERE BOSNIAN MUSLIMS HAD SLAUGHTERED CHRISTIAN SERB SMALL FARMING PEOPLE FOR YEARS

 
 
These are writers who are sympathetic to the Serb cause. As the trial goes on we on www.4international.me will deal with their take in more detail.
 
But let us put one issue to rest where it is clear indeed that www.4international.me is really not reading off the same page at all as these writers of the following article. I can illustrate this by extracting one sentence which appears near to the end. It is:
 
Ratko Mladic may or may not be a war criminal depending on different opinions; however, if he is a war criminal then where are the Bosnian Muslim war criminals…
 
There is precisely where www.4international.me parts company with these writers.
 
They are not defending Mladic at all.
 
The context is that western capitalism, the US, all the European states, even Canada and Austrlia, had joined with Islam Jihadists aginst the Serbs.
 
In that context how could any Serb, including Mladic, be guilty of anything. The Serbs in those conditions chose their methods to fight to defend themselves. Who are these three writers here to criticise in the slightest what methods to use!?
 
At that point these 3 writers step into the camp of Kamm and Hoare.
 
As in the case of Abyssinia, and in the case of Leon Trotsky in his unconditional defence of haile selassie, our defence of  Mladic, Milosevic and all other fighters on the Serbs side, I say ALL, is one of UNCONDITIONAL DEFENCE
 
I have for many years been a critic of Mr Ed Harman and others on this very issue. In defence of Mladic, and in defence of the Serbs over the issue of Srebrenica, the defence must be UNCONDITIONAL
 
iT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE HAD DISAGREEMENTS WITH SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC OVER THIS AND THAT POLICY ETC.
 
BUT ONCE SLOBODAN WAS IN THE HAGUE, A PRISONER OF THE WESTERN CAPITALIST/JIHAD ALLIANCE OF NATO THEN THE DEFENCE OF MILOSEVIC HAD TO BE UNCONDITIONAL.
 
It is quite shameful that that actually was not done, never, by anybody, while Milosevic was in the Hague.
 
Of course, who am I and what is www.4international.me? Without a powerful party the individual is just that, and individual.
 
That is why the defence of Mladic must not be left in the same hands but a revolutionary party which will defend Mladic unconditionally be created
 
I am sure this will be a recurring theme.
 
Basically, we take the same position towards Mladic and the Serbs as we do towards the Jews. Against Imperialism and Antisemitism we defend them unconditionally.
 
We have written much on www.4international.me about Srebrenica. Basically it is a Giant Lie, the worst that mankind has ever experienced. If you do not get that right you get nothing right.
 
Mladic is a fighter, a warrior in the fight for Truth. For Mladic to advance he has to tell the truth about this Big Lie. For the likes of The Guardian to advance they have to continue with the Big Lie. That is why we disagree so strongly with the formulation as described above.
 
There is no half way house. That is why Srebrenica is a revolutionary issue.
 
We extend our solidarity with the writers here. Later on another occasion I am sure we will go into their views in more detail.
 
 
 
 
{Start of article in question}
 
 
May 17, 2012

The writers here are:  Murad Makhmudov and Lee Jay Walker, Modern Tokyo Times

The trial of Ratko Mladic will be sweet music to the American agenda, the “Muslim victim card,” to cover-up the international terrorist ratlines which allowed terrorists to enter Bosnia, to cover-up the role of the Bosnian Muslim leadership in allowing Srebrenica to happen; and so forth. Therefore, the trial of Ratko Mladic is aimed at shaming the Bosnian Serbs and to pin all the blame on one side. Irrespective of the guilt of this individual this distortion is beyond what is reasonable because it is based on covering-up the real events of what happened. Indeed, the BBC today, like other major agencies, will mention the slaughter of 7,000 Muslim men and boys in Srebrenica but ignore the 3,500 Orthodox Christians who were slaughtered by Muslim forces before this event took place. These massacres apply to killing Orthodox Christians in and around Srebrenica, irrespective if they were little girls to old and elderly people.

 

It is this usual “good” versus “evil” whereby the mass simplicity of many media outlets not only shames the international media, but it makes you doubt everything that you read. For example, when terrorists in Iraq strike, the BBC states clearly that terrorists have struck. However, when terrorists strike in Syria then the BBC casually hints that “the opposition claims that it is the responsibility of the Syrian army.” Of course, such manipulation of language is part of the problem and the simplicity of outsiders who ignore whole histories and why such hatred exists, is just thrown away. The same also applies to the real motives behind the conflict in the first place.

Indeed, it is “pure colonialism” whereby the histories of the “hated” are belittled and the past is re-written by individuals with an agenda which is far from liberal. Therefore, all history must be forgotten in order to dehumanize the Serbs and the same applies to massacres committed against the Serbian people.

Before, focusing on Srebrenica, Ratko Mladic, and historical realities, some clarity must be given. All sides in the Bosnian conflict committed atrocities irrespective of religion or in the name of different ethnic nationalist movements. Therefore, many Catholics were massacred, many Muslims were massacred, many Orthodox Christians were massacred and you also had internal Muslim massacres which emanated around the border zones of Bosnia and Croatia.

Also, without a shadow of a doubt and despite the complex nature of Srebrenica and the final events which took place; it is clear that thousands of Muslims were killed by Bosnian Serbs who desired revenge. This fact can’t be glossed over no more than can the massacres against the Orthodox Christians of Srebrenica and the surrounding region by Bosnian Muslim forces. Either side, or international media outlets which desire to gloss over this reality and distort to the point of propaganda, merely shame the victims and themselves for spreading hatred.

Is this new, sadly not because all civil wars are brutal and massacres will take place on all sides. During World War Two the United States dropped two nuclear bombs on the civilians of Japan and did horrendous carpet bombing. The British likewise did carpet bombing against Germany. Similarly, Japanese and German forces massacred many civilians. War crimes of course depend on the writ of the victors. Therefore, the slaughter of killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and the carpet bombing of Tokyo is deemed to be “humanity.” After all, did the individuals who ordered Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and the carpet bombing of Tokyo, face war crimes?

Srebrenica and quotes from powerful individuals

The UNPROFOR commander, French General Philippe Morillon, recounts that “the Serbs took me to a village to show me the evacuation of the bodies of the inhabitants that had been thrown into a hole, a village close to Bratunac. And this made me understand the degree to which this infernal situation of blood and vengeance […] led to a situation when I personally feared that the worst would happen if the Serbs of Bosnia managed to enter the enclaves and Srebrenica.”

“I feared that the Serbs, the local Serbs, the Serbs of Bratunac, these militiamen, they wanted to take their revenge for everything that they attributed to Naser Oric. It wasn’t just Naser Oric that they wanted to revenge, take their revenge on; they wanted to revenge their dead on Orthodox Christmas.”

On February 12, 2004, Philippe Morillon testified at The Hague Tribunal that Bosnian Muslim forces under Naser Oric “engaged in attacks during Orthodox (Christian) holidays and destroyed villages, massacring all the inhabitants. This created a degree of hatred that was quite extraordinary in the region.”

Indeed, it is reported that approximately 3,500 Orthodox Christians in and around Srebrenica had been killed by Muslim forces during the brutal conflict. This applies to beheadings, individuals being burnt alive, and other ghastly and brutal torture methods. Therefore, the 5,500 plus Muslim fighting unit under Naser Oric was famous for its brutality and clearly the hatred on both sides in this part of Bosnia was unique. After all, Muslim forces loyal to Fikret Abdic had been allies of the Serbs on the border areas of Bosnia and Croatia in the western area. These Muslim forces fought against Alija Izetbegovic because they didn’t follow his Islamic aspirations.

Srdja Trifkovic who is an historian comments that “It is often pointed out that Srebrenica was an UN “protected zone,” but it is seldom noted that the enclave was simultaneously an armed camp used for attacks against Serb villages in the surrounding areas. Muslim General Sefer Halilovic confirmed in his testimony at the Hague Tribunal that there were at least 5,500 Bosnian Army soldiers in Srebrenica after it had obtained the “safe haven” status, and that he had personally arranged numerous deliveries of sophisticated weapons by helicopter.”

The importance of the above quote is that the Muslim General Sefer Halilovic acknowledges the sizeable Bosnian Muslim armed forces in Srebrenica and that sophisticated weapons were delivered. This was a strange “protected zone” which not only allowed the Bosnian Muslim units to slaughter Serbians in surrounding areas but it also enabled re-militarization. Of course, the same process is now happening in Syria whereby the opposition obtains more external military support, while at the same time the central government is lambasted for being militarist. It is not only blatant double standards but it is the direct covert participation of outside forces, who then manipulate the media in order to distort the “real picture” on the ground.

Srdja Trifkovic also comments that “During the Bosnian war between May 1992 and July 1995, several thousand Muslim men lost their lives in Srebrenica and its surroundings. Most of them died in July of 1995 when the enclave fell unexpectedly to the Bosnian Serb Army and the Muslim garrison attempted a breakthrough. Some escaped to the Muslim-held town of Tuzla, 38 miles to the north. Many were killed while fighting their way through; and many others were taken prisoner and executed by the Bosnian Serb army.”

Philippe Morillon further testified that the crimes committed by Bosnian Muslim forces were “extraordinary” and made the Serbs’ desire for revenge to be“inevitable.” This does not justify the events that took place once Bosnian Serbian units took control of Srebrenica because like Srdja Trifkovic comments “Many were killed while fighting their way through; and many others were taken prisoner and executed by the Bosnian Serb army.”

However, the media neglect of the massacres against Orthodox Christians in and around Srebrenica – and such leniency taken against Bosnian Muslim individuals who committed such crimes – not only leaves a sour taste – it is a falsification of history and covers up many untold stories which helps to dehumanize the Serbians. It also negates to share responsibility where it belongs – this applies to all parties who committed massacres. This also includes the United States and CIA which conveniently “overlooked” 8,000 of the most brutal and fanatical Islamists to enter Bosnia on false passports in order to slit the throats of Orthodox Christians.

Major-General (Ret) Lewis Mackenzie who is a retired Canadian general also raises serious doubts about so-called “good” and “evil.” In his article called “The real story behind Srebrenica. The massacre in the UN ‘safe haven’ was not a black and white event,” which was published in The Globe and Mail (July 14, 2005), he clearly highlights neglected facts behind the “real” Srebrenica.

Lewis MacKenzie comments that “As the Bosnian Muslim fighters became better equipped and trained, they started to venture outside Srebrenica, burning Serb villages and killing their occupants before quickly withdrawing to the security provided by the UN’s safe haven. These attacks reached a crescendo in 1994 and carried on into early 1995 after the Canadian infantry company that had been there for a year was replaced by a larger Dutch contingent.”

“The Bosnian Serbs might have had the heaviest weapons, but the Bosnian Muslims matched them in infantry skills that were much in demand in the rugged terrain around Srebrenica. As the snow cleared in the spring of 1995, it became obvious to Nasar Oric, the man who led the Bosnian Muslim fighters that the Bosnian Serb army was going to attack Srebrenica to stop him from attacking Serb villages. So he and a large number of his fighters slipped out of town. Srebrenica was left undefended with the strategic thought that, if the Serbs attacked an undefended town, surely that would cause NATO and the UN to agree that NATO air strikes against the Serbs were justified. And so the Bosnian Serb army strolled into Srebrenica without opposition.”

General Morillon comments bluntly about the Muslim warlord called Naser Oric because he states that “Naser Oric was a warlord who reigned by terror in his area and over the population itself. I think that he realized that these were the rules of this horrific war, that he could not allow himself to take prisoners. According to my recollection, he didn’t even look for an excuse. It was simply a statement: One can’t be bothered with prisoners.”

The brutal civil wars throughout the former Yugoslavia led to the ethnic cleansing of Serbians in Krajina. However, not only was nothing done about this, the Croatian forces who did this had been backed by America and other nations during the conflict. Indeed, all sides, irrespective of religion or ethnicity had used similar methodologies in their areas of power.

Also, the ghosts of past Muslim SS Units who supported Nazi Germany alongside Croatian fascists, was still etched into the memory because the events of World War Two were never reconciled under communist rule after the war. Therefore, with this, and the Ottoman Muslim past of enslaving young Orthodox Christian boys and then converting them to Islam – then the fear was not based on myths or on distant memories. On the contrary, the divisions within the former Yugoslavia were witnessed by the surviving elderly generation on all sides whereby histories meant different things.

Lord Owen supports the comments of General Morillon because on page 143 of his book, Balkan Odyssey, the respected Lord Owen comments that “On 16 April I spoke on the telephone to President Milosevic about my anxiety that, despite repeated assurances from Dr. Karadzic that he had no intention of taking Srebrenica, the Bosnian Serb army was now proceeding to do just that. The pocket was greatly reduced in size. I had rarely heard Milosevic so exasperated, but also so worried: he feared that if the Bosnian Serb troops entered Srebrenica there would be a bloodbath because of the tremendous bad blood that existed between the two armies. The Bosnian Serbs held the young Muslim commander in Srebrenica, Naser Oric, responsible for a massacre near Bratunac in December 1992 in which many Serb civilians had been killed. Milosevic believed it would be a great mistake for the Bosnian Serbs to take Srebrenica and promised to tell Karadzic so.”

Lewis MacKenzie states that “two wrongs never made a right, but those moments in history that shame us all because of our indifference should not be viewed in isolation without the context that created them.”

Many Bosnian Muslim figures also point the finger at Alija Izetbegovic because clearly the power of the Bosnian Serbs in this period was much reduced after the arming of both the Bosnian Muslim forces and military of Croatia. Indeed, how is that Alija Izetbegovic sent Bosnian Muslim forces to crush Muslims loyal to Fikret Abdic in the west – yet, he did nothing apart from notify the Bosnian Muslim military leaders in Srebrenica to abandon this area before Bosnian Serbs entered?

By glossing over the massacres of 3,500 Orthodox Christians in and around Srebrenica; the role of the United States in turning a blind eye to 8,000 international Islamists (some members who did September 11 had learnt much in Bosnia); the actions of the Bosnian Muslim leader, Alija Izetbegovic, in abandoning the Muslim enclave; and other important factors. It entails that Srebrenica is being manipulated for all the wrong reasons and that the dehumanization of the Serbians is a convenient way for Western powers to gloss over the reality on the ground. It also suits the Bosnian Muslim leadership which abandoned the enclave despite fighting against fellow Muslims in the west.

In a past article by one of the writers of this article, it was stated that “… it is clear that “the real Srebrenica” is not being told and the same applies to the “hidden Islamic jihad” which took place during the civil war and how ex-President Bill Clinton gave the green light to Islamists from all over the world to enter Bosnia.”

“Srebrenica should be remembered but it should be remembered in its duality and this applies to thousands of innocent Orthodox Christians and Muslims who were killed by both sides. It also should be remembered that Bosnian Muslim forces had slaughtered thousands of Christians first in the surrounding region of Srebrenica and that the “safe haven” was abused. Military generals from the international community who were in Bosnia state this clearly, and Morillon testified in court.”

The over simplification of major media outlets shames the mass media in general because the same cover up and lack of basic facts, are still being told by major international media agencies. Indeed, the coverage and headlines in some media outlets is bordering on anti-Serbian racism. Also, to gloss over the events of what happened prior to the Bosnian Serbs entering Srebrenica is not merely shoddy journalism, it is open manipulation and propaganda.

If healing is to take place in Bosnia between the various communities which share two entities, then all sides must acknowledge that massacres took place within each community. The alternative is that “hatred” will be manipulated by extremist Bosnian Muslims and likewise, extremists in the Bosnian Serbian community will manipulate the open bias towards them. Tens of thousands of individuals were killed on all sides and if the next generation is to rebuild then it can only rebuild under a fair and honest approach.

Ratko Mladic may or may not be a war criminal depending on different opinions; however, if he is a war criminal then where are the Bosnian Muslim war criminals? For that matter, where are the American war criminals which dropped Agent Orange over Vietnam and so forth? This is the problem because leading powers can bomb nations in distant lands because nothing ever happens. After all, they control all the power mechanisms. Therefore, one hundred thousand Iraqis are allowed to be killed because of failed policies because leading nations will not be held accountable.

Also, from the point of view of Ratko Mladic, if 3,500 Orthodox Christians were killed despite Bosnian Serbian units trying to contain the Bosnian Muslim units; then how many Orthodox Christians would have been slaughtered by Naser Oric and Muslim units if the Bosnian Serbian units had not been able to contain the Muslim forces to a certain degree?

Given the statement by General Morillon that Naser Oric had commented that “One can’t be bothered with prisoners” and then times this by the massacres that units did under him; then clearly Ratko Mladic is viewed differently by segments of the Bosnian Serbian community who were protected by units under him. After all, if Naser Oric and Bosnian Muslim units had been able to kill thousands of Bosnian Serbs despite the armed forces of the Bosnian Serbs in eastern Bosnia. Then it is clear that units under him would have killed untold numbers if they had been given a free reign and this applies to beheadings and burning people alive.

It is clear that hatred in this part of Bosnia was unsurpassed compared with other areas and this is based on the brutality of both sides. Also, Bosnian Muslim leaders point the finger at the Bosnian Muslim leadership in Sarajevo which abandoned the Muslim enclave. It is clear that many events are extremely murky and have been covered up in order to suit several important agendas.

Professor Muhamed Filipovic, Bosnian ambassador to the United Kingdom (1994-96), commented that Alija Izetbegovic had given the Bosnian Serbs the green light to enter Srebrenica. He states that “Serbians are going to be allowed to enter Srebrenica” before they did without any Muslim units fighting. This was ordered by Alija Izetbegovic because of an agreement with the Bosnian Serbs.

Hakija Meholjic, former Srebrenica police chief, states that “We saw the treachery. Both by Alija Izetbegovic and by the international community – There are just good and bad people in every nation. Alija was a bad man.”

It is therefore essential that all areas surrounding the reality of what happened in and around Srebrenica is debated openly, irrespective of the “bad light” that may ensue on both the Bosnian Muslim and Bosnian Serbian leadership. It is known that thousands of innocent Muslims and Orthodox Christians were killed by both sides. Also, senior figures within the Bosnian Muslim leadership in authority, and within Srebrenica, make it clear that Alija Izetbegovic sacrificed Srebrenica. He also did this despite knowing the brutal reality of what Bosnian Muslim forces had done prior to the Bosnian Serbs entering.

The ongoing war crime of Ratko Mladic won’t address these important areas and instead “a whitewash” awaits the final verdict. Therefore, the role of major media institutions in ignoring the enormous complexity of Srebrenica is nullifying the real issues of what happened, both prior, during, and after the Bosnian Serb units entered Srebrenica.

This means that the open manipulation of events suits both the Bosnian Muslim government and Western powers which played “a dirty game” during a brutal civil war. Irrespective of the final verdict against Ratko Mladic, it is clear that he is “a scapegoat” in many areas even if he was responsible for war crimes which led to the deaths of many Muslims.

PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO LINKS BELOW – MADE IN NORWAY AND WITH QUOTES FROM BOSNIAN MUSLIMS WHO ARE NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIrjffmjQg0 Part 1 (please note starts after 30 seconds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ac24F0opI Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylnTpjYSPfI Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIX_nJE-IoE Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJrNeZgnj7Y Sky News – Hidden Islamists of Bosnia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lSRFC-jVPw  (Islamists in Bosnia because of USA, Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Islamist Alija Izetbegovic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03DQJ7skClg&feature=related  (Islamists in Bosnia because of USA, Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Islamist Alija Izetbegovic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyl5wxJPIQs  (Muslim massacres of Christians)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/rival-muslims-battle-on-in-bihac-1422695.html  (Inter Muslim fighting – Serbs supported moderate Muslims