POPE’S VISIT TO SPAIN…MANY WORDS FROM SENOR BONO, BUT WHEN IRAN GETS NUCLEAR BOMB THE SPANISH WILL FRY!

POPE HIDES THE REAL CRISIS IN THE WORLD FROM THE SPANISH PEOPLE

What did the Pope have to say on his recent visit to Spain about the Christians being driven out of Iraq?

Absolutely nothing at all. Not a word!

The plain and honest conclusion to draw from this: This man is a phoney if ever there was one!

This was the perfect forum to voice the information for Spanish and European Catholics and Christians of the horrors that Christians are experiencing in the middle East ans elsewhere.

He could easily have done this in simple and clear language. But he decided to say not a word.

The result is that all Spanish remain in ignorance about what is happening to their co’ religionists at the hands of Islam.

This is cute on the part of the Pope. There are others in Spain who are keeping silent on the persecution of Christians in Iraq and elsewhere, not least in the areas controlled by so called “Palestinians”. This is the followers of Zapatero who do not want to tell the truth about this, because they have a great love god themselves, and that is Islam, and their very special love god, their sweetest honey pot, the “Palestinians”.

You can see the alliance can you not!

Everything in this world on almost all occasions centres on the “Palestinians” but there is a sub plot to this.

The sub plot is without the slightest shadow of doubt antisemitism in its modern form, which is hatred in all its myriad appearances of Israel

Of course we do not hate Israel…they añll cry out in anguish at such a suggestion.

Of course we defend Israel’s right to exist…they counter before they even begin their attacks on Israel.

OK then! Why not give full publicity to the Christians being driven out of Iraq.

Do not blame anybody and do not blame Islam! Just for a start tell ordinary people in Europe what is happening! That is not a lot to ask! Just give people the facts!

You see the Pope did not mention Christians driven out of Iraq when he visited Spain because he is part of a bigger and more gigantic alliance. He is in alliance with Zapatero against Israel, against the Jews, in unity (both of them) against any who fight against Islam, against any who fight against Iran, and as for the reality of Iran getting a Nuclear Bomb to threaten Israel and others with, THAT MUST NEVER BE MENTIONED

You will appreciate that if you do not talk about the Iran Bomb then it will not exist.

Just close your eyes and imagine that Iran does not have the Nuclear Bomb. Problem solved. It does not have it.

That is the basic kind of subjective idealism allied with direct antisemitism that motivates the Pope and the followers in Europe of Zapatero.

In the meantime Pope Bededict 16 can keep droning on his attacks against secularism, against the secular state, against the separation of Church and State as embodied in the French and American Constitutions, and all his other big pet projects.

But they are divorced from reality.

At least Spanish youth and workers should draw this from the Pope’s visit to Spain.

The Pope and Zapatero are in alliance with Islam and with Iran…that is the fact which is glaring at us.

These word merchants like the venerable Senor Bono are so good with words on the morning programmes. But when Iran has the Nuclear Bomb and the Costas are within reach of the rocketry of Iran, which is quite outstanding in its sophistication, then mr Bono all words will cease, and you and your people will fry.

THE POPE ON LEAVING SPAIN KEEPS THE SPANISH PEOPLE IN IGNORANCE OVER ISLAM IN IRAQ

THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE OF THE POPE’S VISIT WAS AN EXERCISE IN KEEPING THE SPANISH PEOPLE IN IGNORANCE, ESPECIALLY IN IGNORANCE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO CHRISTIANS AT THE HANDS OF ISLAM IN IRAQ

4international is printing the farewell speech of the Pope as he left Spain

 

This is not any normal speech. This is a speech given at the end of a visit to a country which is in enormous political and moral crisis

 

the whole visit of the Pope to Spain was quiet about the driving of Christians out of the Middle East BY ISLAM, and in particular of Iraq and Gaza

 

in this sense the visit of the Pope, its silence on this tragic phenomenon, can be seen as a uniting with the antisemitic and pro Islam PSOE, with the PP following in the tracks of the PSOE (In this the outlawing and sidelining of Aznar by rajoy can be viewed). The whole package is bound together by political correctness

 

WHAT THE POPE SAID ON LEAVING

 

Farewell speech
In Spanish:Your Majesties,
Your Eminences the Archbishop of Barcelona and the Cardinal President of the Spanish Bishops’ Conference,
Your Eminences and Your Excellencies,
Dear Prime Minister,
Distinguished National Regional and Local authorities,
Dear Brother and Sisters,
Dear Friends,

Thank you very much. I wish to convey in these brief words my deep sentiments of gratitude at the conclusion of my visit to Santiago de Compostela and Barcelona. I thank Your Majesties for coming here today. I am grateful to Your Majesty for your gracious words in which you expressed the affection of this noble people to the Successor of Peter. I also wish to express my heartfelt gratitude to the authorities present, to the Archbishops of Santiago de Compostela and Barcelona, to the Spanish Bishops and to all those who, without counting the cost, have helped to bring this journey to a happy conclusion. I am grateful for the many constant and touching gestures of attention offered in these days to the Pope, clear signs of the openness and hospitality characteristic of the people of these lands so dear to my heart.

At Compostela, as a pilgrim, I joined the many people from Spain and Europe and elsewhere who come to the tomb of the apostle to fortify their faith and to receive forgiveness and peace.

As Peter’s Successor I also came to strengthen my brothers and sisters in the faith that at the very dawn of Christianity came to these lands and took such deep root that it has constantly shaped the spirit, customs, art and character of its peoples. The preservation of this rich spiritual patrimony demonstrates the love of your country for its history and culture, yet it is also a privileged way of transmitting to younger generations those fundamental values so necessary for building up a common future of harmony and solidarity.

The paths that cross Europe on the way to Santiago differed greatly, each marked by its own language and its particular characteristics, but the faith was the same. There was a common language, the Gospel of Christ. In any place pilgrims could feel at home. Beyond national differences, they knew that they were members of one great family to which the other pilgrims and people along the way also belonged. May this faith find new vigor on this continent and become a source of inspiration. May it give rise to an attitude of solidarity towards all, especially towards those communities and nations in greater need.

In Catalan:

Here in Barcelona, I have had the immense joy of consecrating the Basilica of the Sagrada Familia, which Gaudí conceived as a monument of praise in stone to God. I also visited an important charitable institution of the Church. They stand in today’s Barcelona as two symbols of the fruitfulness of that faith which has marked this people deeply and which, through charity and the mystery of God’s beauty, contributes to the creation of a society more worthy of man.

Truly, beauty, holiness and the love of God enable people to live with hope in this world.

In Spanish:

I return to Rome after visiting only two places in this beautiful country. Nevertheless, in my thoughts and prayers, I have wished to embrace all Spaniards without exception and all those born elsewhere but now living here. I hold all of you in my heart and I pray for you, especially for those who suffer. I place you under the maternal protection of Mary Most Holy, so greatly venerated and invoked in Galicia, Catalonia and throughout Spain. I ask her to obtain for you from Almighty God abundant heavenly gifts, that you may live as one family, guided by the light of faith. I bless you in the name of the Lord. With his help, we will meet again next year in Madrid, to celebrate World Youth Day. Adios!

 

In the above the prase used by the Pope needs further scrutiny in relation to the tragic experience as we speak of Christians in Iraq being driven by Islam out of a land in which they lived for 2000 years

VISIT OF POPE TO SPAIN IS TO A LAND IN SEVERE ECONOMIC AND MORAL CRISIS

The Rome Correspondent of the Catholic News Agency has a very informative article which correctly deals with the crisis today in Spanish life, especially with the inability of the Catholic Church and Religion to provide an answer to the material and spiritual crisis facing the Spanish people

 

People who read this site must understand that we are very opposed to Stalinism and to Social democracy, and by htis latter term we mean the reformist Social Democratic or Labour Parties.

 

Trotskyism has always been opposed to Stalinism and its crude persecutionist approach to religion.

 

The politics of Zapatero are a reflection of this Stalinism and indeed are linked to the Stalinist IU Party in Spain. They are both, the PSOE and IU, joined at the hip in practical Spanish politics today. Keep that in mind  when this interesting Professor Salome Adroher Biosca speaks about this terrible tragedy of Abortion.

 

This is a good article. Please read and keep on file:

 

Salomé Adroher Biosca, a dean at the Pontifical University of Comillas law faculty in Madrid, said the Pope will find a Spanish society facing a host of challenges — an economic crisis, the threat of domestic terrorism from ethnic Basque separatists, and an increasingly individualistic public morality.

 

Spain has been among the countries in Europe hardest hit by the worldwide economic downturn. With more than 5 million Spaniards out of work, government assistance programs are being stretched to their limits and social unrest is growing.

The implications of the economic crisis have had ripple effects throughout Spanish society, Androher Biosca said. “If a society is not capable of providing work and giving a decent life to its people, something is going wrong,” she added.

The Spanish family is also suffering. Adroher Biosca said there has been a real “ideological turn” in the family policies of the socialist Prime Minister Jose Louis Rodriguez Zapatero. This can been seen in abortion legislation approved last June that permits abortions for unborn children with apparent “grave anomalies which are incompatible with life” at any time during a pregnancy.

The government has established a standard in which the “rights” of the woman trump those of the child and even those of her husband or partner, she said. The right to abortion is now considered to “take precedence over other rights worthy of protection.”

In the past, abortion was illegal in all but a few cases. Now, it is categorized as a mere “health provision.”

The family in Spain is seeing other consequences of widespread individualism and secularism in society, she said.

She pointed to rising levels of domestic violence, more divorces, more children being born outside of stable homes, and a difficulty in finding homes for orphaned children.

“This perhaps should be read from a Christian perspective, to ask what we’re doing with our families and how the consumerist society and individualism is unsettling the family customs of many people in such a major way.”

The Pope is expected to take up these issues —especially the rights of the unborn and the handicapped — during his brief trip. On the second day of his visit, he will be visiting an institution in Barcelona that offers assistance to disabled and poor children.

The encounter will take place after he consecrates the Church of the Holy Family, an extraordinary work designed by the architect Antoni Gaudi, whose cause for sainthood is currently being considered by the Vatican.

In Barcelona, the Pope will confront a deep skepticism about religion and a rising tide of moral relativism.

Many in Spanish society are living in a sort of “absence of God, not exactly for an ideological reason, but as part of a lack of concern, of trivialization and loss of meaning,” said Josep Miró, president of E-Christians and a member of the Pontifical Council for the Laity.

Pope Benedict has spoken out frequently against what he calls the “dictatorship of relativism,” in which individuals and societies deny the existence of moral truths. He has also decried a sort of “practical atheism,” in which people live as if God does not exist.

Jesuit Father Josep Benitez observed that Spanish society, in the name of rejecting the “moralizing asphyxiation” of the past, has wound up with no points of moral reference or meaning.

But he and other Spanish Catholics have high hopes for the papal pilgrimage.

The Pope’s tour will connect the ancient and the modern. He will start in Santiago de Compostela, an ancient pilgrimage site that holds the remains of St. James the Apostle, who is credited with bringing the Gospel to Spain. And his trip will end at Holy Family, Gaudi’s masterpiece of modern Catholic architecture.

Father Benitez, former head of the history department at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome, expressed confidence that the Pope’s visit “will bring about a renewed appreciation for that which has been the Catholic tradition in Barcelona.”

Miro agreed. The pilgrimage, he said, is “a reason not only for happiness and thanksgiving, but also for hope that his visit will be a strong impulse to help our Church be reborn.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-to-visit-spain-as-it-searches-for-renewal/

WHY DID POPE BENEDICT ON VISIT TO SPAIN NOT SPEAK ABOUT THE DRIVING OF CHRISTIANS BY ISLAM OUT OF IRAQ?

THE POPE CAME TO SPAIN IN THE PAST 3 DAYS AND WAS CONCERNED ONLY WITH THE ATTACKS ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN SPAIN.

THAT IS HIS RIGHT! (THERE ARE REALLY VICIOUS ATTACKS ON RELIGIOUS PEOPLE COMING MAINLY FROM STALINISM WHICH WE ON 4INTERNATIONAL DEPLORE)

BUT WHY DID HE NOT SPEAK ABOUT THE HORROR THAT IS HAPPENING TO CATHOLICS AND CHRISTIANS IN IRAQ AT THE HANDS OF ISLAM?

WE OFFER 2 ARTICLES ON THE ISSUE, ONE BY ROBERT SPENCER IN 2009, ANOTHER ABOUT A FILM DOCUMENTARY MADE ABOUT THE SAME TIME:

On Sunday, July 12, Aziz Rozko Hanna, an Iraqi Christian who was serving as director of the Department of Financial Control of the city of Kirkuk, was driving with his daughter in Dumiz, a Christian neighborhood in Kirkuk, when he was stopped, pulled from his car, and shot dead in front of his daughter.

On the same day, five churches in Baghdad were bombed, wounding eight civilians. And all this has come after persecution and harassment that has led over half of the Christians in Iraq to leave the country in the last few years. The situation has gotten so bad that the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Baghdad, Jean Benjamin Sleiman, said in May: “I fear the extinction of Christianity in Iraq and the Middle East.”

Sleiman has good reason to fear. In 1909, the Middle East was 20 percent Christian; one hundred years later, that percentage has fallen to five percent. This decline is directly related to the resurgence of the Islamic jihad and Islamic supremacism around the world in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries. As Muslimsreassert traditional Islamic legal stipulations mandating and institutionalizing discrimination against and harassment of Christians, Christians all over the Islamic world are feeling the heat.

Quasi-secular despots such as Saddam Hussein were not interested in enforcing the provisions of Islamic law mandating second-class status for non-Muslims. (Saddam chose his murder victims on other bases.) Christians enjoyed relatively equal rights under his regime, but after he was toppled, things began to change radically. Groups dedicated to the imposition of Islamic law over the country began to victimize Christians on a large scale. In March 2007, Islamic gangs knocked on doors in Christian neighborhoods in Baghdad, demanding payment of the jizya — the special tax the Koran mandates for non-Muslims who submit to Islamic rule.

Nor was that the beginning of the terrorizing of Iraq’s Christians. In October 2006, a Syrian Orthodox priest, Fr. Boulos Iskander, was kidnapped in the Iraqi city of Mosul. He was never seen alive again. A Muslim group demanded $350,000 in ransom; they eventually lowered this to $40,000, but added a new demand: Fr. Boulos’ parish had to denounce the remarks made the previous month by Pope Benedict XVI in an address in Regensburg, Germany, that caused rioting all over the Islamic world. The ransom was paid, and the church dutifully posted 30 large signs all over Mosul, but to no avail: Fr. Boulos was murdered and  dismembered, not necessarily in that order.

Five hundred Christians attended the funeral of Fr. Boulos Iskander. Another priest commented: “Many more wanted to come to the funeral, but they were afraid. We are in very bad circumstances now.”

This murder took place against a backdrop of increasing persecution of Christians in Iraq. Women were threatened with kidnapping or death if they did not wear a headscarf; in accord with traditional Islamic legal restrictions on Christians “openly displaying wine or pork” (in the words of a legal manual endorsed by Cairo’s venerable Al-Azhar University), liquor store owners in Iraq were threatened and some were murdered. Many of their businesses were destroyed, and the owners fled. A onetime Iraqi liquor store owner now living in Syria lamented that “now at least 75 percent of my Christian friends have fled. There is no future for us in Iraq.”

Now that Barack Obama is removing U.S. troops from Iraq, this resurgent Islamic supremacism will only gain momentum. Though he could have helped protect Iraq’s Christians,  Obama has shown no interest in using his bully pulpit to alleviate their plight. Instead, Obama has manifested a disquieting eagerness to cozy up to Sharia regimes – notably the one in next-door Iran, which is working still to create a Shi’ite client state in Iraq. Christians, as well as other non-Muslims, will suffer increasingly, in direct proportion to Iran’s success in Iraq.   Muslim persecution of Christians —  built as it is into the foundations of Islamic theology and law —  is only going to increase as the Islamic reawakening continues in the Muslim world. Obama should — if he had the guts and the vision that so many loudly proclaimed that he had — stand up and say, “No more.” But he won’t.

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JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE ROBERT SPENCER WROTE THE ARTICLE ABOVE THERE WAS LAUNCHED A VERY INFORMATIVE 30 MINUTE OR SO DOCUMENTARY ON THIS VERY SUBJECT. A REPORT WAS PUBLISHED ON THE VERY INFORMATIVE WEBSITE

Documentary on persecution of Christians in Iraq to be shown in Westlake Village
By Tom Kisken
Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Robert Marcarelli witnessed 10-year-old girls sold as prostitutes in Cambodia. He delivered medicine to people forced from their homes in Darfur and saw parts of Sri Lanka turned into graveyards by a tsunami.

Robert

Courtesy photo Filmmaker Robert
Marcarelli, back row, second from left, accompanied by Iraqi bodyguards, journeys to isolated corners of Iraq. His documentary
on the persecution of Iraqi Christians will be shown at
Calvary Community Church in Westlake Village on Frida

 

But the Thousand Oaks filmmaker said the most shameful thing he has documented came in isolated, violent corners of northern Iraq. There, displaced people living in squalor told stories: of loved ones kidnapped and killed even after huge ransoms were paid, of men shot in the heads; and of families chased from their homes in Baghdad and elsewhere — all because they’re Christians.

“Whether you like the war or not, people should say ‘This should not stand. We should fix it,’ ” said Marcarelli, laying blame on the U.S. and Iraqi governments for not having a better plan to stem the violence and flood of refugees that civil unrest has generated. “These people put their trust in us and we abandoned them.”

His 30-minute documentary, “Facing Extinction: Christians of Iraq,” will be screened Friday night at Calvary Community Church in Westlake Village. Of the nearly 5 million Iraqis uprooted over the past six years, the film focuses on the Christians who can trace their history in the region back some 2,000 years. Hundreds of thousands of them have fled to Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and to northern Iraq.

They are targeted because they are neither Muslims nor Kurds and some of them aligned themselves with coalition forces, Marcarelli said. Churches have been bombed. Church leaders and members have been killed. Notices informing families they have 24 hours to leave are left on front doors.

Though Marcarelli thinks the persecution has received little attention, Pope Benedict XVI called for increased protection of Christians in Iraq during a recent speech in Jordan.

Violence against Christians is a huge problem in Iraq, said Dr. Mark Juergensmeyer, a UC Santa Barbara professor who wrote a book on religious violence called, “Terror in the Mind of God.”

The war ended Saddam Hussein’s reign but also removed the country’s semblance of authority, creating turmoil that has brought with it what Juergensmeyer called a quest for nationalist and cultural purity.

Christians are victimized because they don’t follow Islamic laws that forbid alcohol and compel women to wear scarves on their head, he said. Often they’re merchants and the crimes against them are motivated by money.

“It’s not just Christians but it’s especially Christians,” he said.

Mainstream Muslims have learned to live in peace with people of other faiths, said Richard Hrair Dekmejian, a USC professor who was born in Syria and studies the Middle East. But the fundamentalists and jihadists strike out against Christians and anyone else who doesn’t fit their definition of a true Muslim.

“These are pre-Muslim communities in Iraq, and they’re being uprooted en masse,” Dekmejian said.

Marcarelli is a 58-year-old filmmaker who is knighted and journeys across the world on humanitarian and faith-driven missions, sometimes turning the work into documentaries.

A year ago, he journeyed to Jordan where he met with families who have fled Iraq and are living in crowded underground apartments. With the help of eight Iraqi bodyguards, he traveled to an Assyrian Christian community in northern Iraq, an area not often reached by the media or even the U.S. military.

In both places, he found unimaginable stories of violence, including a 6-month-old baby who was beheaded, roasted and then presented to his mother. He heard predictions that unless the violence stops, there may be no Christians left in Iraq in a decade.

Many of the refugees told Marcarelli they’ve tried to gain asylum in the U.S. but have been denied. They said they paid ransoms to kidnappers who threatened to kill family members; the ransom was characterized by U.S. officials as support for terrorists.

Marcarelli’s film is narrated by Jim Cavaziel, who played Jesus in Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of The Christ.” It includes interviews with members of Congress and an official with the United Nations. Proceeds will be used to help the refugees.

The film is being shopped to television networks but Marcarelli hopes it is also screened by churches, colleges and high schools. He wants it to spur involvement.

“Churches need to push back on our Congress and our president and let them know we can not let this happen,” he said.

http://www.christiansofiraq.com/documentary-on-persecution-of-cristians-ofIraq.html

There is one further detail on this theme, for the moment

Listening to a talk radio show I heard a presenter called Howard Brereton quoting from Robert Fisk stating that the Wall and Israel was driving Christians out of Bethlehem.

How does that false claim by Fisk line up with the material inthese two reports above?