BUSH WAR ON SADDAM TODAY EVEN MORE OF A DISASTER AS POOR ARABS FLEE ISIL FASCISTS

The extent of territory known to be influenced by the group in January 2014. Out of date as of June 10th 2014
The extent of territory known to be influenced by the group in January 2014. Out of date as of June 10th 2014

 

(From The Telegraph Online)

The militants are believed to be from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), the joint Iraqi-Syrian al-Qaida affiliate that is also fighting President Bashar al-Assad’s regime in neighbouring Syria. Seizing control of Mosul, which lies on a stretch of the Tigris less than 100 miles from the Syrian border, would help the group in its aim of carving out a swathe of uncontested territory straddling the two borders.

 

How much suffering?

How many Beheadings?

How many rapes?

 

Yesterday on Talk Radio Europe there was a woman on the panel who actually defended Obama when I said that Obama was Islam. How can such a person get onto a radio panel? What qualifies her?

 

How much suffering is the policy of Obama towards Islam going to cause these Arabs who are fleeing from Al Qaida in Northern Iraq, Mosul?

 

And as regards the woman defending Islam and Obama how much ignorance can grown people have?

 

Bush went to war against Saddam. Tony Blair and his whole British state joined in. That was a fatal move.

The “Left” Fascists such as the Anti War Movement took to the streets of London and Dublín in opposition. That movement was reactionary and false however because the real reason it was necessary to defend Saddam (Baathist regime brutal and mad) was that the secular Baathists were a defence against Al Qaida. The “Left” Fascists in taking to the streets were really defending Al Qaida. Notice that I place left in inverted commas. These are Fascists. They are also Antisemites. We on 4international are true Trotskyism and we oppose these Fascists who attack the jewish Homeland.

 

Bush and Blair were opening the door to Al Qaida in Iraq. Or in other words to the entrance of the Jihad based on the Quran into Iraq. And so these poor Arabs today flee in millions from Mosul. It only takes a moment of reflection to see that the “Left” fascists in the anti-war movement of the time were actually on the side of Al Qaida, and the consequences of the Bush War has had the same result.

 

In fact the necessary defence of Saddam Hussein then is very like the necessary defence of Assad today (but critical of Assad’s Alliance with Iran and Hizbullah) are very similar.

 

there are times when you have to defend dictators in politics because the lesser evil often is the rule.

 

This issue came up very often in the 1930s and there is a memorable retelling of an Aesop Fable by Leon Trotsky. It is about taking decisions to defend a particular position from Fascists, and Al Qaida is Fascism

 

AN AESOP FABLE

From What Next? Vital Question for the German Proletariat, 1932

* * *

A cattle dealer once drove some bulls to the slaughterhouse. And the butcher came night with his sharp knife.

“Let us close ranks and jack up this executioner on our horns,” suggested one of the bulls.

“If you please, in what way is the butcher any worse than the dealer who drove us hither with his cudgel?” replied the bulls, who had received their political education in Manuilsky’s institute. [The Comintern.]

“But we shall be able to attend to the dealer as well afterwards!”

“Nothing doing,” replied the bulls firm in their principles, to the counselor. “You are trying, from the left, to shield our enemies — you are a social-butcher yourself.”

And they refused to close ranks.

 

 

ISRAEL AND JEWS MUST DEFEND ASSAD TO THE HILT…WHILE STRIKING IRANIAN PLUTONIUM ENRICHMENT

 

 

Over the past couple of weeks 4international has had articles defending Zionism as a national liberation movement removed by the Indymedia Ireland site, and during the same time has had material defending Zionism but attacking bourgeois pro imperialist Zionist so-called leaders removed from the Israpundit site.

 

How come our articles are attacked simultaneously by both the Fascist Left of Indymedia and the pro American Zionist bourgeois leadership!? And here I am not comparing the two, Fascism is Fascism, Zionism is a progressive national liberation movement 9of the Jews)

 

What is it about Trotskyism? Seems we make enemies very easily. Could it be because we are independent and we will always value our independence, allowing us to speak the truth?

 

The Arab Spring has been both the movement towards Fascist Sharia Rule by the Muslim Brotherhood, and at the same time an extension of the New World Empire advanced by a capitalist system, a world capitalist system mark you, in deepening and deepening economic and political crisis.

 

Note it well, in our analysis there are TWO parts to this equation. There is Islam and there is World Capitalism with the over-riding world capitalist economic crisis.

 

Taking Islam…Apart from us the left gives Islam a free ride.

 

There is a very long history to this and only a fool would try to answer this in a few sentences, but people must remember that Stalin and Stalinism were rightly called the “gravedigger” of the revolution. Also it is not just the left which has been sold the fascist pup called “Palestinism” but in essence all of bourgeois society, with the Vatican and the Church of England, the English Trade Union Bureacracy and a thousand others (but not www.4international.me). In relation to Stalinism we will refer later to the new vital film Tsar to Lenin just being re-issued as we write, a vital event in preparation for the 100 year centenary of October 1917

 

We stand totally behind Israel as the Jewish Homeland but the issue of Jewish leadership causes great difficulties for Jews.

 

The Zionist leaders are tied to Capitalism just as much as they were under Herzl and from then on to the present. There is no REAL independent Zionist voice. All of the religious leaders in Yesha are in on this business of being tied to capitalism.

 

And they will betray the Jews and betray the aspirations to national liberation, which is really what Zionism is, no more and no less.

 

The absurd religionists try to blur this but there is a real grandeur and often pathos to national liberation, and the greatest of all is the Jewish struggle.

 

It is also why the leadership of the Jews will have to be Trotskyist and no other will do. Without that the Jews will be defeated and will perish in the cauldron of world capitalist crisis. Thus we pose a new concept into the discourse, the possibility of there being a revolutionary socialist and Zionist leadership. Can Zionism be posed in the context of revolutionary socialism? I answer in the affirmative.

 

In the Arab Spring as they hang on to the coat tails of America the Jewish leaders put up no defence and no fight against the Muslim Brotherhood. Bourgeois Zionism, like all nationalisms that I know, are essentially isolationist.

 

This was seen most clearly in the case of Libya, and now again is being seen in the conduct of Jewish leaders towards Assad.

 

Stinks of betrayal of the Jews. In general in great battles you cannot sit on the fence. You have to take a position…take a side.

 

Take Libya: here the Jews and the West also really did have a staunch ally against the Muslim Brotherhood. Muammar Gadhafi was totally opposed to fundamentalist Islam, putting forward a Sufi-type and an almost animist-Africanist variant. There was the tribal democracy issue of Africa expressed in the democratic committees which they set up after they got rid of medieval royalty. Then there was the move by Gadhafi to rally Africa away from both America and the Stalinists of China and Russia. Whether that all is right or not right what is a fact is that there was the Bush/Blair agreement with Gadhafi to fight Al Qaida.

 

Above all Gadhafi was arresting and repressing the religious Fascists of Al Qaida, Muslim Brotherhood, and other terrorists, all as part of an explicit agreement with the West.

 

The West reneged on all these agreements and suddenly turned on a sixpence to create a savage war in which many thousands of black Africans given free access to Libya by Gadhafi were slaughtered.

 

The bitterest enemies of the Jews, the Antisemitic British with their SAS killers (remember Ireland) were all part of the unfolding deadly drama in Libya.

 

But the Jewish leaders disgraced Zionism by being part of  war along with the SAS criminals. Instead of standing with Gadhafi for so many reasons they did the exact opposite.

 

There now follows an extract from a prominent Jewish site which is connected to all other Jewish sites without exception (called Israpundit):

 

March12 2011 was the fateful date of this message from Israpundit, an influential Jewish bourgeois site, and while not trying to get at Israpundit, despite its often disgraceful attitude to Trotskyism, we have to quote because Israpundit is representative of how bankrupt is this form of Jewish leadership (the bourgeois or capitalist anti-socialist kind)

 

Bomb Libya’s air force rather than maintain a no-fly zone

By Ted Belman

The US administration is debating whether or not to apply a no-fly zone over Libya. It should take JINSA‘s advice issued on Feb 24

Flatten the Libyan Air Force

President Obama finally stirred himself to address the carnage in Libya, saying the “suffering and bloodshed is outrageous and it is unacceptable.” Without calling on Muammar Gaddafi to step down – as he did to Mubarak for far less – he announced no sanctions or punishment. He left it to Gaddafi. “The Libyan government has a responsibility to refrain from violence, to allow humanitarian assistance to reach those in need and to respect the rights of its people,” he said. “It must be held accountable for its failure to meet those responsibilities and face the cost of continued violations of human rights.”

That is far, far from sufficient. But the United States and its allies in Europe and the Middle East can dramatically help themselves and help the Libyan people at the same time. The operation is relatively simple, it will spare many lives and it will set the stage for stability in the future.

The idea is simple – destroy the Libyan Air Force.

Without the air force, Gaddafi loses a key tool against his people. By acting to protect the population, getting on the right side of the Libyan revolution and definitively punishing Gaddafi, the United States would demonstrate the limits of Western tolerance for reckless, maniacal, murdering dictators. [..]

If you destroy the airforce you save the time and trouble and cost of imposing a no-fly zone.

Of course, we must be sure that the devil we know is worse than the devil that may take over.

(JINSA which Belman refers to is just another of these American, pro-Imperialist sites which also are betraying the Jews by associating with these barbarians. That is also clearly what Belman and Israpundit are doing here)

Without dealing here with the issue of Egypt and Mubarak which we have dealt with in full elsewhere that very position of betrayal of Jewish interest in Libya is being repeated endlessly, and right now in Syria.

Of course if Assad falls the Muslim Brotherhood will take power and there will be no minorities, especially no Christian Syrians, left or they will remain only as dhimmies and paying the tax.

It is as simple as that. But the Jewish leaders every one have been calling for the overthrow of Assad. That at the very least and at its most superficial is a gross betrayal of the Christians in Syria, a very sizeable minority and a betrayal also of all those Muslims who prefer a secular alternative to the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafism (with the example of what has happened in Egypt and Libya staring them right in the face)

These betrayals have got absolutely terrible consequences for the Jewish leadership betrayals lead to terrible Holocaust type traps for the Jewish people.

As things stand today the only allies which the Jews have got are the gadhafi opposition, the Mubarak opposition, the Assad opposition tot he Muslim Brotherhood, Russia and China who are fearful of the advance of the New World Order, the latter especially on two fronts, the surrounding of Russia by NATO, and the stirring up of shabby protest in Moscow (paid CIA mercenaries mostly)

And there was the clear doublecros of Russia and China in that UN Resolution.

All of these experiences have led on to the present critical situation as is expressed in the following analysis from Debka. Proving that the Jewish leaders are betrayers of the Jews, are as capitalists never independent from America and its reactionary New World Order, and that there must be a new socialist and Trotskyist leadership built which will replace these leaders. There is no thir way in this.

Jews are being drawn back to exactly the position they were in following the 1917 October Revolution in Russia. Will Jews support the Socialist Revolution or will they support Imperialist Barbarism, as they did in Libya, as they are doing in Syria.

 

There is NO question at all bout this. Under the present Bourgeois Zionist leaders Jews will be urged to support Imperialism, Barbarism

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moscow has removed the gloves in its defense of Syrian ruler Bashar Assad.  Wednesday, July 4, senior official Ruslan Pukhov warned: “If the Syrian regime is changed by force or if Russia doesn’t like the outcome, it most likely will respond by selling S-300s to Iran.”
Pukhov, who sits on the Russian Defense Ministry’s advisory board and heads a defense affairs think tank in Moscow, added: “The fall of the Syrian government would significantly increase the chances of a strike on Iran. Resuming S-300 shipments to Iran may be a very timely decision.”
Moscow has since 2010 withheld the S-300 air defense system from Iran at the request of the US and Israel.  The Pukhov statement indicated that, just as that was the correct decision for the time, the strategic situation in the Middle East with regard to Syria and Iran has since changed, and so providing Iran with these weapons would be the timely decision now.
Kremlin strategic thinking on the region shifted radically in August 2011.
On August 8, two weeks before NATO and Arab forces drove the Libyan rebel invasion of Tripoli to oust Muammar Qaddafi, Russia’s ambassador to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, warned in an interview to the Russian Izvestia, “NATO is planning a military campaign against Syria to help overthrow the regime of President Bashar Assad with a long-reaching goal of preparing a beachhead for an attack on Iran.”
To this day, Moscow is certain that the same Western-Arab coalition will sooner or later intervene militarily in Syria and then move against Iran.
Sources in Washington and Jerusalem found evidence of that suspicion in comments made by Russian President Vladimir Putin during his visit to Israel on June 25. He is reported to have scattered vague threats indicating that Syrian President Bashar Assad’s overthrow would be treated by Moscow as violating Security Council resolutions and elicit Russia’s exit from the international arms embargo on the Syrian regime.  Putin was not specific.
Russian S-300 missiles batteries would make the targeting of Iranian nuclear sites by US and Israeli warplanes difficult because that weapon is reputed to have a near-zero miss ratio for intercepting ballistic and cruise missiles – even when they come in at very low altitudes.

In late 2009, Moscow began sending Iran some of the technical accessories for the S-300 batteries while withholding the actual missiles and their control and radar systems, debkafile’s military and intelligence sources report.  During 2010 and the first half of 2011, Iranian teams were trained in their use at bases in Russia. Moscow continually assured Tehran that with patience, US-Israeli pressure would abate and the missiles could be released.

In any case, Israeli air crews are at bases in Greece training in counter-measures since developed to outwit the S-300, debkafile’s military sources disclose.
Tehran has tried to manufacture homemade equivalents to the S-300 on its own – drawing on the knowhow of Iranian military personnel trained in their use in Russia to form designer and construction teams working from blueprints provided during their training.
China, which has received these systems from Russia and is replicating them, was quietly approached by Iran for assistance. Beijing is reported to have handed over some of the technical materials but not the key blueprints for enabling their manufacture.
That is why Iranian generals often report progress in producing an air defense system similar to the Russian model and declare it will be operational by mid-2013, but have never displayed a homemade prototype.

{debkafile report ends here}

What a mess and what a danger capitalist type Jewish leaders have created for the Jews.

What Israel should do is so clear:

  1. Defend to the hilt, despite your (and indeed understandable) differences, all of these leaders against the Muslim Brotherhood and the New World Empire which is NATO and the UN
  2. Keep Iran out of this. It is OBVIOUS what Israel must do with Iran…it must go to war, nd the sooner the better, and hope that that will lead to the overthrow of the Fascist Mullahs, but in any case damage irreparably their dangerous to Jews plutonium enrichment facilities.
  3. That has nothing whatsoever to the necessary supporting of Assad against the Empire/Sharia for the simple reason that Israel is independent and must strike at its enemy Iran and Hizbullah quite independently, and the sooner the better, like yesterday it should have happened long ago.

However I think this is quite beyond present Jewish bourgeois leaders.

We defend the Jewish religion. We defend the right of Jews to practice their ancient religion Judaism. Yet there is no solution at all in Judaism or in any religion no matter how noble. It holds people back from seeing and understanding the reality of this world, and also what needs to be done.

In fact Jews have to go back to the period 1905 to 1917 in Russia to understand what they must do and how to do it. They must go back to Lenin and Trotsky and the Russian Bolshevik led Revolution of 1917 and on this score we will be explaining more about the timely relevance of a new Film just being released in DVD form later this month called From Tsar to Lenin, a vital jistorical film and a guide to action in the present…for Jews and for ALL!

IF YOU CANNOT DEFEND ASSAD YOU CANNOT DEFEND ISRAEL EITHER (FROM RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT)

There is a lengthy discussion on Israpundit on Powers and “Responsibility to Protect”. These Jewish leaders in the Diaspora are in total crisis because they do not know how to fight against the phenomenon of the “Arab Spring” which is at the same time the fight against Fascism, and indeed the alliance of the capitalist powers with Islam is the making of the modern Fascist Movement.

In this context the word that is never mentioned by Ted belman, Pamela Geller, Spencer and others is Marxism or Trotskyism. Rather than the truth they try to muddy the waters on Leon Trotsky and his defence of the Jews and the Israel in the making.

I wrote the following in a comment (url below) and please understand that if you do not defend the disreputable Assad against this Fascism of “Responsibility to Protect” then you do not defend the Jews and Israel either.

 

{This is the comment}

Let us get one thing crystal clear. If anybody thinks that Romney as a Republican President would not support “responsibility to protect” then please think on, and keep on thinking.

Heck even the editor of Israpundit Ted Belman backed up a bloodthirsty call of a noted Jewish American organization on this very site to bomb the living bejasus out of Gadhafi. It is true that Ted pulled back from this but it is on record that I immediately attacked this position, which is also not only the death-knell of sovereign states as under Gadhafi but also is the end of the road for the Jewish state of Israel.

Israel and its present leaders, which includes also the total leadership in the Diaspora (the leadership of the Jews has many differing strands, being traditionally a broad church, which is good and bad actually), and includes people like Ted and Gerry Gordan plus a thousand others, are sitting ducks. This is the result of political cowardice, of deep bias against new perspectives rooted in Judaism and in the conservatism of Judaism, which historically this conservatism has its good and bad aspects.

From the beginning of the crisis in Yugoslavia I recognized that THAT was “responsibility to protect” and I fought for the independence of the Serb people to fight to hold together their unified state of Yugoslavia, while people like Gerry Gordon did not lift a finger to defend Yugoslavia, but rationalised its break-up.

Ted was shaky on this at the beginning but a chap called Bill from Canada, a lawyer, disgraced Jews forever by sitting on the fence, while Yamit82 disgraced the memory of Yamit 1982 by launching the most vicious slanders against the Serbs, culled from disreputes like Hoare.

Came to Egypt Yamit82 and others found every reason under the sun NOT TO defend Mubarak from the Muslim Brotherhood and US Imperialism cum EU cum UN cum NATO.

Ben Ali was no different, Gaghbo no different, Gadhafi no different, and now Assad.

Funny that! Not talking about THAT, eh!

There is no point at all in moaning about Power and “responsibility to protect” if you do not actively defend Assad against just this very same thing.

The thing about Ted, the “weaselie” yamit82, Gordon, Mr Barry Rubin and a thousand other Jews, (I say Jews but remember that each and every one of these speaks only for themselves) is that they can always find the words to be utterly hypocritical.

So the opposition to Obama/Powers on Syria fell to the Stalinists of China and Russia and that is an unstable foundation, because the Stalinists are reactionary to the core. They always end up supporting Imperialism because Stalinism is a creation of Imperialism, and are not Marxists, are in opposition to Marxism.

Ayers was a creation of the CIA and Jared Israel has detailed how he and his girl friend split a promising student movement in the 60s which was seeking to link the students with the American workers.

So please do not refer to Ayers as a Marxist unless you are either intellectually challenged or wilfully dishonest.

Same applies also to our friend Obama. Obama a Marxist ha ha ha!

All the evidence points to the murky hand of the CIA behind Obama also. Do not forget that the CIA protected Eichmann in South America until the Jews busted the CIA post 45 racket and caught that piece of filth.

And just remember that if you cannot defend Assad from Annan then you had best shut up about this “responsibility to protect”, and when the NATO descends on the Jews in Israel as they did on the Christians in Kosovo keep your hypocritical mouths firmly shut there also.

You have to be consistent to be believed.

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