Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are wrong about Obama and ISIL in Iraq.

Pamela and Robert are both freedom fighters against Islamic Jihad and because they are freedom fighters were barred from entering Britain by the fast-becoming Fascist British Imperialist Government

This illegal action against Robert and Pamela by the British Imperialists WENT UNANSWERED BY THE FASCIST “LEFTS”

NOTICE THAT WE PUT LEFT IN INVERTED COMMAS which means that we on 4international do not consider them left or socialist

And today we learn on the websites that Socialist Unity is threatening a socialist with legal action using the British reactionary libel laws. THESE THINGS ARE ALL RELATED…




Basically Pamela and Robert are saying that US Imperialism (Obama) is acting like the “bungling bear in the china shop” in the sense that it inadvertently keeps knocking over the tables of china

The bungling bear like Bush on Saddam (2003) are really kindly bungling bears but they are just a bit clumsy and keep bumping into things. That is the analysis of Pamela and Robert and it even extends to Obama who is Islam sympathetic (at least)

That is because Pamela and Robert are themselves the servants of US Imperialism.

Look at it from this angle however. The US system of capitalism is in crisis. There could be another and deeper collapse of shares and whole economy in many countries. This pulls US elites AND OTHERS LIKE SPAIN towards Fascism and Dictatorsjhip.

On dictatorship look at the hatred that Pamela showed towards Edward Snowden who was MERELY WARNING OF PLANS TOWARDS DICTATORSHIP

The Alliance of US is more and more with the likes of ISIL, with the head choppers, and that is nothing to what they will do in the Homeland US to the workers, youth and unorthodox guys like Ed Snowden

If they were serious in opposing these Arab Muslim Fascists what would the US and EU do? They would immediately rush troops to destroy ISIL (WHICH IS ONLY A FEW THOUSANDS OF FASCISTS)

Obama ruled that out! Hillary Clinton this morning on BBC ruled that out also and supported Obama inaction! Cameron does not care! The EU governments only care about boycott on Israel.

So these US and EU political elites are on the side of the headchoppers of Islam

Meanwhile as we mentioned the Socialist Unity Fascist “Lefts” are taking a legal action based on the reactionary British Libel Laws against a real socialist in Britain. Typical. That is the most Fascist thing that can be done! Stop the discussion by all means is the method of Socialist Unity.

Stopping necessary discussion and using the state libel laws is exactly what Fascists do.

4international will defend socialists against Fascists who aim to stop discussion. That is exactly what Socialist Unity is aiming to do. They are not Socialists they are Fascists in the guise of socialists. 4international says expose Socialist Unity for what they really are. We will not be silenced so more articles by us on this Socialist Unity

4international will really examine carefully the politics of this group and we will try to answer the question as to what makes Socialist Unity so easily reach for the Libel Laws of Britain, the most reactionary Fascist Laws on the planet.

Shame on them.

Call for the defence of Robert and Pamela against these same British Fascists in the British State Machine who banned them from Britain.


As I write about the horrific attacks on the Israeli car, its passengers, the Israeli bus, its passengers, the rocket attacks on Jews including an attack by rocket on a Jewish synagogue in southern Israel, all from the Sinai, all involving it is believed terrorisat Arab Palestinians from the Gaza, some according to the occupants of the car dressed in Egyptian Uniforms, it is very noticeable to me as a left wing person that 2 left wing sites which I have just checked on, that is the WSWS and the Workers Liberty of Matgamma, have not entered any kind of report. I mean not a word. There has been one full article on the Harry’s Place website, which is not classic left at all.


I suspect very strongly that these two are not the exception but the rule.


An indication of what this left is doing can be had from Indymedia Ireland. This organization has a website, with main articles (one of which is an interesting study of the FRU), but also with the engine of the site, a section of comments, where people can start a thread (I mean people that Indymedia approves, I cannot, they block me)


But it is in this comments section that one can see what they are focussed on.


Out of about 25 comments they have one dealing roughly with the attacks. It is total distortion, total lies




It is a total denial of the attacks which involves many aspects. One person is claiming that the bus was a military bus so was a fair target. There is much talk of the Israelis and Mossad doing it themselves. In this latter theme one person quotes all of the article of Amira Hass which claims that Israeli soldiers dress up as Hamas. There is publication of a picture which could be of anything.


The method is to disregard the attacks, give NO facts on the attacks, and raise a story of some child being murdered by the IDF in Gaza, in the middle of it all. It is impossible to follow, to understand what the hell they are on about. Complete disregard of facts.


So what have we


First of all the Workers Liberty of Matgamma and the WSWS ignore the events


Utter and false tripe from the Indymedia Ireland…No factual reporting on what happened




These articles or comment articles on Indymedia are hard to locate afterwards and this is an example of the craziness that they came up with here, just a small extract:


“Sounds like a well-planned and executed attack against military targets

author by Military historianpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 14:06Report this post to the editorsas far as I know all the victims were members of the Israeli Military – I know of no confirmed civilian victims of this attack – if as Jnr states there were civilians present on the bus then it is possible to deplore the violence yet commend the attackers for their professionalism, if nothing else.

If only the Israelis showed such regard for civilian life when they launch their attacks on gaza and Lebanon to name but two

according to this report from the Jewish Chronicle – http://www.thejc.com/news/israel-news/53367/10-wounded-…ttack – “UK intelligence community suggested that the attacks may well have been masterminded by an al-Qaeda cell infiltrating from Sinai. The intelligence maintained that the attacks were beyond the capability of Hamas.”

If it was the elusive Al Q then it was a Security Services ‘false-flag’ attack designed to conjur-up a pretence for war on Gaza, since it is well-documented that Al Q are essentially an extension of US, UK and even Israeli militaries/Securitiy Services.

Or could it possibly be..

author by opus diablos – the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 15:03Report this post to the editors…a set up for reclamation of Sinai as a buffer, given the current volatility in former staunch ally Egypt?

Israelis have a history of posing as Hamas when it suits them – perhaps this was one such occasion?

author by Military Historianpublication date Fri Aug 19, 2011 23:42Report this post to the editorsGaza residents: IDF troops posing as Hamas men- 01/13/2009 – By Amira Hass, Haaretz Correspondent

The testimonies of Gaza Strip residents are revealing new details about the Israel Defense Forces’ mode of operation there. In the past two days, Beit Lahia residents forced from their homes said soldiers were posing as members of Hamas’ armed wing while advancing on the ground. The daily pauses in bombing allow Gazans to meet with the displaced – most of whom are housed in an UNRWA school – and hear their stories. Gaza resident S. told Haaretz he heard several people say they saw armed men wearing the uniforms and symbols of the Iz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, who “called out to each other in Arabic, as if they had caught a collaborator, and then, with the element of surprise, went into the houses.” A Gaza radio station warned that troops posing as locals were driving a vehicle normally used by paramedics. Residents said the radio broadcaster listed the vehicle’s license plate number and color. Haaretz has also learned that one of the army’s methods for evacuating a home is to fire a missile toward its upper level. That is how B.’s house in Sajaiyeh was destroyed. It was bombed just a few minutes after a missile struck and 40 shell-shocked family members walked out of the house. The IDF has also forced at least 40,000 people to leave their homes in agricultural and border areas. In Rafah, most of the 20,000 people removed from their homes were lodging with relatives and not in UNRWA facilities.


by Felix Quigley

January 15, 2009

Gaza War Protest
and Anti-Israel Rally 

San Francisco, January 10, 2009

On Saturday, January 10, 2009, a large rally and march took place in San Francisco to protest Israel’s invasion of Gaza. The event was one of a series of similar events held in various cities around the country on the same day, and was organized by ANSWER along with several other far-left, Arab and Muslim groups.

The photos in this report represent what I personally saw that day in San Francisco. Because there were thousands of people in attendance, with innumerable signs, vignettes and scenes playing out every minute in many different locations, I can vouch only for what I myself witnessed.

While the event was advertised as being specifically a protest against the invasion of Gaza, there seemed to me to be an undercurrent of unabashed anti-Semitism. This woman, for example, carried a sign that said “Jews Are Terroist!” (“terrorists,” one assumes she meant), and dressed her very cute daughters in matching Palestinian flag outfits. 

This is an outstanding series of photographs and I beg, implore, that every single reader will visit this

The url is


It is on the solomonia site


One result of viewing these pictures is the firm conclusion that the new Fascism is Antisemitic Hatred of Israel.

Martin Luther King said to the effect “Those who say they are against Zionism…we are talking Antisemitism”. The so-called “Left” are up to their eyeballs in this Fascism and Jew Hatred.



by Felix Quigley

The interview which Milosevic gave to CBS remained on the surface of things. In it Milosevic does not face up to the role of Islam in Bosnia and in Kosovo. This was a weakness considering that Bin Laden had been operating inside the Bosnia created by Izetbegovic, and this was providing Bin Laden with the resources which he took to Afghanistan, and later to the massacre of Americans in the Twin Towers, in 2001. During all of that time, in Bosnia and in Afghanistan, Bin Laden was being manhandled by the US CIA. If the US was so closely involved up to 2001 that raises serious unanswered questions about 9.11!

Also Milosevic does not see the overall picture, that Yugoslavia was destroyed because it was in the way of the US push to dominate the Balkans and to wage war against China and Russia. Milosevic was certainly no communist revolutionary, but to the pig ignorant US Imperialists he was regarded as such. That explains their hatred for Milosevic.

But still, granted these political weaknesses, this interview shows that Milosevic is a truthful person. In this interview he states it as he sees it, and everything he says in it is verifiable and has been verified. What he does show rather well is that the Serb people and nation were different to the others. The Serbs were open, democratic and multicultural in the best sense of that word. Milosevic during this interview gives evidence of the many nationalities which were welcome inside Serbia, and which remain welcome inside Serbia. The truth of his words is shown in the efforts of the Tudjman Croats, the Islamists in Bosnia and the Kosovon Albanian Islamists to cleanse their states of Serbs, gypsies, even Jews.

This interview has also been carried on




[begin interview here]



22 April 1999. (Tanjug) – President of the FR of Yugoslavia Slobodan Milosevic gave an interview to the American TV network CBS, the biggest American TV network. During the talk that lasted approximately one hour, President Milosevic answered a succession of reporter Ronald Hatchet’s questions.

Question: President Milosevic, I would first like to thank you for agreeing to meet with me today. I know that there is a lot of difficulty between our two countries. Continue reading