9 KEY TAKEAWAYS CONCENTRATING ON HAMAS, TAKEN STRAIGHT FROM ITS CHARTER

We Trotskyists of 4international. Very supportive of Israel. Insist that Fatah and Hamas have roots in the Antisemitism of Hitler and Hajj Amin el Husseini. Husseini a founder of the Musmim Brotherhood. Roots of “Palestinianism” lie in the Holocaust of the Jews. The Holocaust was the coming together of the Islam of the Koran and Fascism. A frightening mix which is being threatened today again on many fronts. We wish to explore those fronts…please help our work…

The source of this article is an excellent site http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15942. I feel that the remarks by Jamie Weinstein are very relevant. The article by Jamie Weinstein was introduced by a freelance writer Victor Sharp (additional note at end) to whom I am grateful. As always we on 4international look at these things in a practical manner and involves how can we solve this question of leadership 

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In an article in The Daily Caller blog,  Jamie Weinstein exposes the Hamas Charter. He writes:

“Hamas was founded in December 1987. In August 1988, it issued a covenant outlining its mission. The covenant has never been renounced by Hamas, even though some try to claim it is now merely a historical artifact.

“Here are nine key takeaways concentrating on Hamas, taken straight from its charter.”

1.) Hamas isn’t looking to negotiate a peace deal with Israel. It wants to destroy Israel. Quoting Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna, the charter reads: 

“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

2.) Actually, Hamas’ charter goes beyond destroying Israel. It longs for Jewish genocide: 

“The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: ‘The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’”

3.) Hamas makes it clear in its charter that it doesn’t believe in peace conferences. As its charter states: 

“Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.”

4.) Unsurprisingly for an organization that supports Jewish genocide, Hamas’ charter is explicitly anti-Semitic. For instance, Hamas’ charter claims Jews – not just Israelis – are responsible for all wars: 

“There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.”

5.) And all revolutions: 

“They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests.”

6.) And they also control media: 

“For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realization of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others.”

7.) According to its charter, Hamas favors violent jihad:

“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

8.) Hamas shares the Muslim Brotherhood’s enthusiasm for “death for the sake of Allah:”

“Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.”

9.) Hamas accuses Israel of being like Nazis in its charter. For instance, there’s this: 

“The society that confronts a vicious enemy which acts in a way similar to Nazism, making no differentiation between man and woman, between children and old people – such a society is entitled to this Islamic spirit.”

Unfortunately a previous Israeli government allowed Hamas to gain strength in the territories, seeing it as a useful counter to Fatah. This was yet another mistake, which has come back to haunt the Jewish state.

It may be too late. The damage may be too severe but, better late than never, I believe it is incumbent upon a more nuanced and hopefully more effective Israeli public relations campaign to be launched quoting again and again the horrific clauses in the genocidal Hamas charter along with the poisonous words spewing from the PA’s media and from Abbas himself.

Show the vile Hamas Charter and quote the evil words of Abbas to all who hector and pressure Israel.
These should be offered relentlessly to all international leaders and media outlets so that all will see the absurdity and utter moral bankruptcy of negotiating with such a genocidal Palestinian partner; one which includes Hamas as part and parcel of the so-called Palestinian Authority whose leader, Mahmoud Abbas, utterly rejects recognizing Israel as the state of the Jews and demands that all ‘Palestinian territory’ be judenrein (free of Jews).

Who would still demand that Israel negotiate with such an inhuman entity? Outrageously, the Obama Administration, the EU, the UN, and so many misguided liberal Jews, like the notorious J-Street, still demand that Israel essentially commit national suicide.

Why, pray tell me, must we always witness Israeli leaders, year after year, tremulously refraining from forcefully rejecting the fraudulent charge of Israel being in occupation of ‘Palestinian’ land; a monumental lie that oozes from the very depths of Jew hatred, flies in the face of biblical and post-biblical Jewish history, and makes the very angels in heaven weep.

And why, oh why, must we have to squirm in embarrassment as an Israeli Prime Minister is forced by the present hostile incumbent in the White House to apologize to the Turkish Islamist thug, Recip Tayip Erdogan.

So show the vile Hamas Charter and quote the evil words of Abbas to all who hector and pressure Israel. If they do not come to their senses and recant, they would at least be seen as the immoral enemies of Israel; the Jewish state reconstituted now in its biblical and ancestral homeland.

It seems that the famous aphorism by Abba Eban that, “the Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity,” has become a recurring problem for the Jewish state.

So stop apologizing when it is the Arabs, those who call themselves Palestinians, who have most to apologize for.

Victor Sharpe is a prolific freelance writer and author of several published books including the trilogy, Politicide: The attempted murder of the Jewish state.

TOTAL END OF PEACE PARTNER AS ABBAS DEMANDS MORE CAR TERROR ATTACKS IN JERUSALEM

We Trotskyists of 4international. Very supportive of Israel. Insist that Fatah and Hamas have roots in the Antisemitism of Hitler and Hajj Amin el Husseini. Husseini a founder of the Musmim Brotherhood. Roots of “Palestinianism” lie in the Holocaust of the Jews. The Holocaust was the coming together of the Islam of the Koran and Fascism. A frightening mix which is being threatened today again on many fronts. We wish to explore those fronts…please help our work…

Peace Partner? Abbas’s Fatah Demands More Car Terror Attacks

‘Moderate’ Fatah issues spate of cartoons and images calling for more terrorism against Jews; ‘run over the foreign settler!’

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By Ari Yashar

 

First Publish: 11/6/2014, 5:14 PM

(from a very good and useful site, always factual and truthful, http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/187138

Fatah uses Arafat’s image calling for terror

Palestinian Media Watch

Palestinian Authority (PA) Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah movement, still held up as a “moderate” counterbalance to Hamas by many in the world, is actively calling for car terrorist attacks after a recent spate of three such attacks in the last two weeks.

The flurry of Fatah Facebook activity urging more attacks ramming cars into Jews was exposed and translated by Palestinian Media Watch (PMW).

After a Hamas terrorist murdered a Border Patrol officer and wounded many others with his car in Jerusalem on Wednesday, and later another Arab driver ran into three soldiers, Fatah on Thursday posted numerous cartoons and images to its page calling for more such attacks.

One cartoon was titled “the run over organization,” using a play of words on the Arabic da’es meaning “run over” and Da’esh, the Arabic acronym for Islamic State (ISIS). In the cartoon, Fatah urges “hit the gas at 199 (kmh, 125 mph – ed.) for Al-Aqsa.”

A crossed-over traffic sign reads “Al-Aqsa,” hinting at the ban on Jewish entry to the Temple Mount by the Jordanian Waqf (Islamic trust) that is in de facto control of the holiest site in Judaism.

Fatah urges car terror attacks Palestinian Media Watch

Another Fatah post on Thursday reads simply “run over, friend, run over the foreign settler!”

Indeed numerous terrorist websites, including that of Hamas, have been touting a “car intifada” in the wake of the Wednesday attacks.

In yet another post from Wednesday, a picture of former PA Chairman Yasser Arafat shouting was subtitled “the Jews are defiling Al-Aqsa – will you not rage?”

 

Fatah uses Arafat to call for terror Palestinian Media Watch

PMW has documented how Abbas last month, just weeks before the recent series of lethal attacks, called to prevent Jews “defiling” the Temple Mount by “all means necessary,” in an uncanny echo of Arafat’s call for the 2000 Second Intifada. Abbas’s call for terror was given heavy rotation on official PA TV.

Another post on Fatah’s official Facebook page Thursday showed a man shooting an assault rifle on the ground with the words “restore your glory.”

Fatah picture Palestinian Media Watch

The incessant urging of terror was not only found on Fatah’s main Facebook page; “The National Liberation Movement – Fatah” page also got into the terror action on Thursday, showing a cartoon of a car with Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) flag colors trying to ram three fleeing Jews.

The text under the cartoon reads “#Da’es (“run over” – ed.) – a new hashtag.”

Fatah terror call Palestinian Media Watch

“May Allah protect the heroes,” the same page wrote in another post Thursday, praising an alleged stabbing that was reported in the frequently fictitious Arab media.

“Reports of a stabbing of a Zionist security guard and taking of his weapon in North Jerusalem. May Allah protect the heroes. #Palestine_resists,” the page bragged.

The same Fatah page also on Thursday posted a short video of Arab riots on the Temple Mount, writing “and they ask why we run them over!” The convoluted logic appears to be justifying the terror attacks in recent weeks with the Arab violence on the holiest site in Judaism.

JEWS FACE ONLY WAR AGAINST US EMPIRE AND AGAINST ISLAMIC JIHAD…THUS NEED TROTSKYIST LEADERSHIP

Britain opposed the Jewish state in 1948 (Haifa) and US Empire is now the enemy of the Jews

 

What Martin Sherman leaves out of this analysis is the most important factor of all. This factor exists in the form of a reality, a certain reality that must be addressed before any other.

 

That factor is the existence in the world of the US Empire and its lapdogs in NATO and the EU.

 

ISIL is important, of course it is but the drive behind ISIL is not only the Islamic Jihad rooted in the Koran, but also (perhaps I could say more and more) it is the actions of Empire with its EU and NATO in tow on the world scene.

 

How far back to go? Well I would certainly go back to the role of the US post 1945 when the US ruling class recruited all of the Nazis into their government and especially into their intelligence services. Edward Snowden is an issue for all Jews and it must be an issue of how Jews can support that American freedom fighter.

 

What WAS the Second World War fought for then? So that the US ruling class could co-opt the Nazis. Is that it?

 

A key part of this growing Empire, the British Government, rather than giving the new state of the Jews a fair wind in 1948, in fact openly brought Nazis into Palestine to fight the Jews.

 

Moving forward a bit who was it that insisted on the PLO being rescued after the PLO was routed in the Lebanon War in 2002? It was the then US President and all of the prestige of Empire which did that. Many Jewish soldiers had laid down their lives for the US President to do that to the Jews.

 

The actual “philosophical” basis for the rescue of the PLO was the propaganda and actions of the Churches and especially of the Vatican

(see http://emperors-clothes.com/vatican/pressure.htm)

 

I have got one, and only one, criticism of the analysis of Martin Sherman because I agree with almost all, but it is a weighty criticism all the same. Sherman is basically asking the key question but not giving any answer: Why are the Jews of Israel, this very significant nation of people, continuing to elect (and I use the word after some thought) douchebags like Netanyahu.

 

Netanyahu seems to have absolutely no backbone at all. I wonder if Netanyahu has been kept alive politically by means of the valiant sacrifice of his brother. But however this man is the wrong man to lead Israel in a period of warfare.

 

The answer which Martin Sherman does not give to the question which is inherent in everything that he writes which is that the Israeli people, a valiant people, continue to elect such douchebags as Netanyahu because (I emphasize most strongly) no other alternative is being offered to the Israeli people.

 

It needs a new leadership (however that can be created I myself thinking that it must be based on Trotskyist principles)

 

Such a leadership will be democratic, centralized, theoretical, a cadre based on history. It will as a first step break up, expel or imprison (with capital punishment restored for crimes against Jews) both Fatah and Hamas

 

The new war of the Jews is actually against two main foes. One of these is a very old enemy of the Jews indeed and that is the forces of Islam and Mohammedan Jihad. But the second is war against Empire, that is against the same Empire which in the 1990s made war against the Serbs ON BEHALF OF THAT JIHAD, and on that basis also removed Saddam, removed Mubarak, Ben Ali and Gadhafi, all of whom were secular dictators, to open the door to precisely the ISIL situation Sherman refers to. My reference above indicates that I believe that the Vatican is central to this Empire. The present Pope Francis is all about drawing closer to Islamic Jihad in Catholic Nigeria, and everywhere that Christians are slaughtered daily.

 

A war on two fronts! Sad as it really is that is the only reality for the Jews. I wish it could be peaceful admiring of the grass growing in your garden but alas cannot be that.

 

WE WARNED ABOUT LIBYA AS STINGER TYPE MISSILES END UP IN HANDS OF HAMAS! 4INTERNATIONAL WILL NEVER BE SILENCED!

FROM DEBKA (the great www.debka.com)

 

 

Helped by highly sophisticated contraband weapons smuggled out of Libya, Iran and Hizballah are getting the Palestinian Hamas equipped for another round of hostilities with Israel. debkafile’s military sources report that Sunday, Sept. 25, Egyptian security forces, acting on information from a Western intelligence source, homed in near Ismailia on a large half-empty buried cache of advanced SA-24 anti-air infrared missiles (a version of the US Stinger) stored there en route from Libya to Gaza.
The information came too late to block delivery; most of the crates were found empty of their contents of missiles and other military equipment which must already be on their way to Sinai or Gaza. Some of the empty containers were found to have contained Russian-made MDM-3 sea mines, of the type Muammar Qaddafi scattered around Libyan ports in May to keep NATO vessels at bay.

 

as we explain below, destroy Hamas, destroy Fatah

The position of 4international is confirmed by this news from DEBKA.

From the very beginning we were totally alone is claiming  that the events in Tunisia, Egypt and in Libya would be the most direct threat on Israel and on the Jews

We maintained that the Arab Spring was “Sharia Fascism Antisemitism” on Steroids

Now Israel is faced with attack from every quarter

Egypt

Turkey

Iran and Syria in combo with Hamas and Hizbullah

Iran and Libya may prove the most decisive forces of all ranged against Israel. Iran because the western governments have worked a kind of street theatre of the absurd alliance with Iran over many years. This took the form of heavy propaganda against Iran while America has continually held Israel (Sharon, Olmert and Netanyahu) back from striking against Iran and stopping the Nuclear Bomb assembly. Libya, where Islam politically correct on steroids version is installed by Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy, now poses very immediate threat with Stingers in the arsenal of Hamas

We on 4international are now being attacked right, left and centre. And many of these attacks are coming on us from Jewish traitors, some of whom are calling themselves “religious Jews”.

But why are they attacking 4international, which as everybody knows from the name, represents the historical line to Leon Trotsky

We called to not let Mubarak (despite our different programme) fall

Also with Gadhafi.

We called and call for Israel to be independent from the US

Return the subsidy! Strike Iran! Destroy Hamas and Fatah! Create one unified Israel and Jewish state!

To Caroline Glick we say: Do not rely or slavishly follow US Congress. Instead mobilise the Jewish people en masse in Israel behind this revolutionary national programme, not a socialist programme, because the esistence of Jews as a people is at stake

To all true Jewish patriots we say: defend 4international, do not allow poisoned traitors to attack us.

Usually these attacks take the form of poison, withdrawal of our comments, snide comments about Trotsky based on lies of course, but also these lies are dependent on ignorance of history, and downright backwardness.

4international told the truth about Yugoslavia

4international told the truth about the “Arab Spring”, that it is Sharia/Capitalist Dictatorship

And we have always told the truth that the palestinian State is the plans to continue the Holocaust, in new and even worse forms

And 4international will NEVER be silenced

OBAMA REPRESENTS SUBMISSION TO ISLAM AND ALSO AN ALLIANCE OF HATE AGAINST US ALL

There is a clear link between all of these issues:

 

1. The continual bombing of Libya by NATO, in which the word of the west to Gadhafi, and the agreement of the west with Gadhafi, has been totally broken. Now NATO is bombing Libya on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood
2. Obama is a big problem for the world. Obama insisted on destroying Mubarak in Egypt and now the new military government, which relies on and is working clasely with the very powerful Muslim Brotherhood there, is opening up the gate to Hamas, and is threatening huge warfare on the Jewish state
3. Obama again, big problem for Israel, because Obama always advised slowly slowly nice nice with Assad. But the main businessman and speaking for Assad has threatened direct war on Israel, the anti-Semites are overjoyed, but if Israel is threatened like this watch those nukes fly. Those ex pats on the Costas in Spain, at present sunning their asses by their pools, will soon have nukes to warm them up!
4. The lies, the lies, the lies! From Srebrenica, from hajj Amin el Husseini, from links of same to Izetbegovic, from Karen Armstrong, from Muhammed el Dura affair, from Cameron on Gadhafi, from “Responsibility to protect giant lie, lies of Cair and Muslim groups in Britain, we live in a sea of deceit

It is a big, big issue for us on 4international and wedefendistrael. Also our own history, Leon Trotsky was the most lied about and lied against man on the planet, lies that led to his murder.

 

How to proceed? Above all there must be a discussion and there must be protection of the discussion.

 

THERE ARE TWO MAIN FACTORS, NOT ONE, WORKING IN THE WORLD TODAY THAT THREATEN ISRAEL AND THREATEN US ALL

It must be understood very clearly that there are always 2 factors working in the world today

1. There is Islam, with its Sharia Law, in our modern terms morphing into a Fascist ideology, used to make war and to suppress, suppress especially the billions of poor in Islamist states

2. Western Imperialism, personified by the crisis in US and British capitalism, driving same to make an alliance with Fascist Islam

 

THAT IS OUR HYPOTHESIS

That hypothesis is not written in stone, but must be continually tested

WE ASK THE QUESTION…WHY DID THE NEW YORK TIMES TELL LIES ABOUT THE EGYPT SITUATION, TO THE EXTENT OF DOCTORING PHOTOGRAPHS (see www.tenc.net)

WE ALSO ASK CONTINUALLY WHERE IS THE EGYPT SITUATION LEADING TO, ESPECIALLY IN RELATION TO DANGER TO ISRAEL

THIS EGYPT SITUATION AND BETRAYAL OF MUBARAK AND GADHAFI IS LINKED EVERY MORNING IN OUR NEWS OF NATO BOMBING LIBYA ON BEHALF OF ISLAMISTS

 

WE WILL LOOK AT 2 ITEMS

1. ANALYSIS OF ECONOMIC CRISIS IN EGYPT

2. OBAMA’s NEVER ENDING GROVELLING TO ISLAM

 

CRISIS IN EGYPT

Egypt’s currency has declined by only about 6% since January, despite substantial capital flight, due to market intervention by the central bank, but the rapid drawdown of reserves is unsustainable.

At this rate Egypt will be broke by September.

Egypt imported $55 billion worth of goods in 2009, but exported only $29 billion of goods. With the jump in food and energy prices, the same volume of imports would cost considerably more. Egypt closed the 2009 trade gap with about $15 billion in tourist revenues, and about $8 billion of remittances from Egyptian workers abroad. But tourism today is running at a fraction of last year’s levels, and remittances are down by around half due to expulsion of Egyptian workers from Libya. Even without capital flight, Egypt is short perhaps $25 billion a year.

Price controls and currency depreciation have made it more profitable for wholesalers – including some employees of state companies – to export rice and cooking oil illegally. According to the daily al-Ahram, hoarding of rice by wholesalers has pushed up the price of the grain by 35% this year, while 200 containers per day are sold to Turkey and Syria.

“What is happening,” the newspaper claims, is that that traders are storing basic items such as rice and barley, hoarded in barns and in large quantities, and are reluctant to send it to the rice mills in order to raise the price of this strategic commodity”. The al-Ahram report, headlined, “Conspiracy to Monopolize Rice,” demands physical inspection of containers leaving Egyptian ports.
The rest of the story is predictable. Once the government relies on young men with guns to police its merchants, hoarding will only get worse. The Egyptian revolution has cracked down on the commercial elite that ran the country’s economy for the past 60 years, and the elite will find ways to transfer as much of its wealth to safety as it can. The normal chain of distribution will break down and “revolutionary committees” will take control of increasingly scarce supplies. Farmers won’t get fuel and fertilizer, and domestic supplies will fail.

The Egyptian government will go to the International Monetary Fund and other aid agencies for loans – the government reportedly will ask for $7 billion to tide things over – and foreign money at best will buy a few months’ respite. The currency will collapse; the government will print IOUs to tide things over; and the Egyptian street will reject the IOUs as the country reverts to barter.

 

EGYPT WIL ACTUALLY STARVE

It will look like the Latin American banana republics, but without the bananas. That is not meant in jest: few people actually starved to death in the Latin inflations. Egypt, which imports half its wheat and a great deal of the rest of its food, will actually starve.

Revolutions don’t only kill their children. They kill a great many ordinary people. The 1921 famine after the Russian civil war killed an estimated five million people, and casualties on the same scale are quite possible in Egypt as well. Half of Egyptians live on $2 a day, and that $2 is about to collapse along with the national currency, and the result will be a catastrophe of, well, biblical proportions.  (Spengler must know, it was not the revolution here, it was the war on the Russian baby workers state and blockade which caused the famine of 1921, 1922 and later. Britain France and US were main culprits)

Spengler is channeled by David P Goldman. Comment on this article in Spengler’s Expat Bar forum

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ME10Ak01.html

NO 2 OBAMA’S NEW OUTREACH TO ISLAM

(ANALYSIS FROM WALL STREET JOURNAL)

Bin Laden’s death gives Mr. Obama a chance to underscore the belief among many administration officials that the terror leader’s relevance had already begun to diminish during the so-called Arab Spring. Mr. Obama, who has made outreach to the Muslim world a cornerstone of his presidency, plans to describe the Islamic world as at a crossroads, said U.S. officials, making the case that bin Laden represented a failed approach of the past while populist movements brewing in the Middle East and North Africa represent the future.

Mr. Rhodes said timing of the speech remains in flux but Mr. Obama could deliver it before leaving on a five-day trip to Europe on May 23. The White House is already telegraphing the message of the coming speech to the Islamic world by placing American diplomats on Arab television and radio, according to U.S. officials.

 

ALL OBAMA ROADS LEADING INTO ANTISEMITISM

The White House is still debating, however, whether Mr. Obama should lay out a concrete plan for revitalizing the stalled Arab-Israeli peace process.

Many Arab governments have been pressing Mr. Obama to publicly outline his own parameters for the creation of an independent Palestinian state as a way to exert more pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who visits Washington next week. These diplomats said the Mideast’s democratic surge is raising expectations among their own populations for an end to the decades-old Arab-Israeli conflict.

White House officials said they are still reassessing the monumental changes in the Middle East and whether an aggressive U.S. push to resume peace talks would likely be successful.

Last week, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas forged a unity government with the militant group Hamas, which the U.S. and European Union designate a terrorist group. Israeli officials have already cited Hamas’s role in the Palestinian Authority as the reason why Mr. Netanyahu is unlikely to unveil any major new overtures to the Palestinians during his Washington trip.

“We need to sort through these issues as we consider the next steps on a peace process,” Mr. Rhodes said. The May 20 Obama-Netanyahu meeting “is a chance for the U.S. and Israel to review the full range of issues, from Iran to the regional change to the peace process.”

Arab officials and Mideast peace advocates say there are major risks for the U.S. and Israel in delaying a return to talks.

Mr. Abbas is pressing the United Nations to recognize an independent Palestinian state during the September gathering of the General Assembly. He has specifically cited his frustration with the lack of progress in negotiations with Mr. Netanyahu, as well as the rising expectations among his own people as a result of the Arab Spring.

 

J STREET TRAITORS

“There’s clearly a lot going on in the region, and there’s a case to be made and some are making it, that now is not the time,” said Jeremy Ben-Ami, founder of J-Street, a U.S. lobbying group that advocates Washington laying out its own peace plan, something Israel’s government opposes. “But we do believe that the only way to avoid U.N. action on a Palestinian state in a unilateral kind of way is for either the president or prime minister to put forward” a peace plan.

A number of lawmakers have cited Hamas’s new alliance with Mr. Abbas as reason for the White House to move slowly in restarting the peace process. Mr. Netanyahu is scheduled to address a joint session of Congress during his Washington visit as well the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the U.S.’s most powerful pro-Israel lobby.

Avigdor Lieberman, Israel’s foreign minister, on Tuesday broke with Israel’s policy of keeping quiet on the regional turmoil, saying the international community’s response to repression of demonstrations in Syria, Lybia and Yemen has been “inconsistent” and “confusing.” In remarks delivered before Mr. Netanyahu’s scheduled White House visit, Mr. Lieberman added that the confusion sends a “damaging message to the people of the Middle East, and further erodes the path to peace, security and democracy for our region.”

Mr. Obama is also scheduled to meet Jordan’s King Abdullah II in Washington next week. The Arab monarch has been at the forefront of Mideast leaders calling for the U.S. to impose its own peace plan on the Israelis and Palestinians. Jordan’s population is 60% Palestinian, and the king has faced his own popular protests in recent months.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703864204576315680040526802.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop

 

PAMELA GELLER OF ATLAS SHRUGS COMMENTS CORRECTLY ON OBAMA

Obama intends to renew his Muslim outreach to the ummah. Renew? Uh, when did he stop?

You mean Osama bin Laden’s elaborate Islamic burial wasn’t enough?

Wasn’t Obama’s last submission tour to the Muslim world enough?

Obama ‘to deliver speech to Muslim world’ — wasn’t his last speech capitulation enough?

I contend that the American people are sick of this submission. The President of the United States should not be prostrating himself for a supremacist ideology whose objective is to destroy and dominate us.

The Muslim world should be doing the outreach to Coptic Christians in Egypt, to Jews in Israel and across the world, to Christians in Indonesia, Nigeria, Timor, Thailand, Bangladesh, Kenya, Chechnya, etc., Hindus in India, non-Muslims in Pakistan, women, children …….. their idea of outreach is “dawah” (proselytizing).

PAMELA GELELR IS CORRECT IN EVERYTHING SHE SAYS ABOVE

YET SHE LEAVES OUT THAT DAY AFTER DAY NATO IS BOMBARDING LIBYA AND SEEKING TO MURDER MUAMMAR GADHAFI

WHO HAD MADE A DEAL AND TRUSTED THE US

WHICH ALONE SHOWS WHAT A DANGER TO THE WORLD IS OBAMA

Why should we care in Europe if Michele Obama invites a nasty man calling himself artist into the White House? I think for very good reasons.

 

This “artistic” low life rapper expresses the sheer crisis in morals in the whole capitalist system.

 

In another article concerning the lies of Karen Armstrong, and the lies against Muammar Gadhafi since the beginning of the NATO bombardment of Libya, we dealt with the moral crisis in the capitalist system.

 

They cannot keep their word (to an ally like Gadhafi)

 

They cannot keep their own White House clean (from a low life like “Common” which is the nickname of this rapper Michele Obama invited in). At least Jackie Kennedy had some love for art. It tells a lot about the stage of capitalist crisis we are in.

 

So this article, driven on the Atlas Shrugs site, is very interesting to me.

 

There is a moral crisis going on in the world.

 

I mean if Michelle Obama presents this low life rapper as art then why not present Sharia as a political moral alternative.

 

And why not break our word to Mubarak, and to Muammar Gadhafi, having given it 10 years before, and after both those men acted in good faith on that word.

 

I think the issues are made clear in the following, mainly by Atlas Shrugs.

 

 

 

 

 

There is a clear link between all of these issues:

 

1. The continual bombing of Libya by NATO, in which the word of the west to Gadhafi, and the agreement of the west with Gadhafi, has been totally broken. Now NATO is bombing Libya on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood
2. Obama is a big problem for the world. Obama insisted on destroying Mubarak in Egypt and now the new military government, which relies on and is working clasely with the very powerful Muslim Brotherhood there, is opening up the gate to Hamas, and is threatening huge warfare on the Jewish state
3. Obama again, big problem for Israel, because Obama always advised slowly slowly nice nice with Assad. But the main businessman and speaking for Assad has threatened direct war on Israel, the anti-Semites are overjoyed, but if Israel is threatened like this watch those nukes fly. Those ex pats on the Costas in Spain, at present sunning their asses by their pools, will soon have nukes to warm them up!
4. The lies, the lies, the lies! From Srebrenica, from hajj Amin el Husseini, from links of same to Izetbegovic, from Karen Armstrong, from Muhammed el Dura affair, from Cameron on Gadhafi, from “Responsibility to protect giant lie, lies of Cair and Muslim groups in Britain, we live in a sea of deceit

It is a big, big issue for us on 4international and wedefendistrael. Also our own history, Leon Trotsky was the most lied about and lied against man on the planet, lies that led to his murder.

 

How to proceed? Above all there must be a discussion and there must be protection of the discussion.

ALL OF THESE POINTS IN THIS ARTICLE MUST BE READ IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REALITY FACED BY JEWS EVERYWHERE AND BY ISRAEL

DUE TO THESE POLICIES BY OBAMA ISRAEL FACES WAR FROM THE EGYPT HIZBULLAH HAMAS IRAN AXIS, AND IN A NEW WAY FROM THE DESPARATE ASSAD SYRIA AXIS

ABOVE ALL OBAMA THREATENS ISRAEL IN EVERYTHING HE DOES

OBAMA A DANGER TO ISRAEL NEXT

HOW THE JEWS CAN DEFEAT OBAMA AND US IMPERIALISM

The excellent DEBKAfile reporting agency has the following piece concerning the current visit of prime Minister Netanyahu to Obama in Washington. It is rivetting and vital knowledge, yet it still does not get to grips with the situation, because it offers no way forward for Jews in terms of leadership

The heading of the Debka report (http://www.debka.com/article/8893/) is that the talks today are stressing nuclear issues, Iran´s and Israel´s. But why should there be even one word spoken about the nuclear weapons of Israel? On the other hand there should be plenty about the nuclear bomb being built by Islam and Iran.

Even the Debka heading shows that for Israel US imperialism is nothing less than the road to destruction.

On this basis alone it would be much better for Netanyahu to refuse to meet with Obama at all. At the very least the agenda should be on the table in advance and every word spoken should be published by Israel.

The extreme minimum would be for Netanyahu to publish a statement in which he lays down the central requirements of the Jews of Israel, following their experience in 1939 to 45, then 48, then 1967 etc.

There is a precedent for this kind of situation. The Russian delegation under Leon Trotsky went to the Brest Litovsk Treaty, (Brest is a city near the Polish border in modern Belarus)

I am not suggesting there is an exact parallel between Israel of today facing Obama, and the newly formed Workers Republic of latye 1917 facing the powers around Germany, with the rest of the rabid Imperialist lands like Britain waiting in the wings, engaged in war to finish off the Workers Republic. But there must be similarities.

Lenin decided that the Workers State could not survive if Germany decided to invade Moscow. They signed in order to gain a breathing space. Once again I am not saying that the position of Netanyahu is so weak as that.

But what is certain is that: It is true that Obama has to be challenged. The question of how and when is also of extreme importance.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was assured of a much friendlier and correct  White House welcome for his fifth encounter with President Barack Obama July 6 – compared with the unmannerly treatment meted out to him on March 23. Still, five time bombs with short fuses are ticking under their seats on issues on which the US president’s internationalist, diplomacy-first attitude is far from Israel’s survivalist, security-first strategic outlook on a number of basic issues. Both will try to overcome their mutual mistrust.
Their respective approaches to Iran’s drive for a nuclear weapon and the future of Israel’s reputed nuclear arsenal are the most combustible of their five topics of discussion. The US and Israel clearly do not see eye on eye on how and when to take action against Iran.

On June 17, defense secretary Robert Gates said Iran was developing the capability to fire scores or hundreds of missiles at Europe. Ten days later, he reported Iran had enough low-enriched uranium to start building two atom bombs within two years. So by the time the new UN sanctions and the complementary measures Obama approved Friday, July 2 start biting and affecting Tehran’s decision-making, the last moment for halting the construction of a nuclear bomb will have come and gone.
On June 28, Adm. Mullen, Chairman of the Joint US Chiefs of Staff commented that the US and Israel are “in sync” over the time needed to find out if the sanctions are working or not.
debkafile’s military sources describe this assertion as a pious hope rather than established fact, because even the US president cannot be absolutely sure Israel will not launch a surprise attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities before it is too late. Until now, he applied the brakes on Israeli action by two means: One by a constant flow of senior American military and intelligence figures to Israel every couple of days and frequent invitations to security minister Ehud Barak and Israeli military leaders to visit the US; second, by a personal presidential pledge to Netanyahu that if Israel holds off from striking Iran, he will continue to back Israel on matters essential to its security.
One such matter is the policy of ambiguity with regard to Israel’s nuclear arsenal, i.e., never confirming its existence.
For Jerusalem, this pledge was cast in doubt by Washington’s decision, against Israeli protests, to support the resolution calling for a nuclear-free Middle East tabled by Egypt for the Arab and Non-Aligned blocs at the Non-Proliferation Treaty Review Conference that took place in Washington in May. This motion demanded that Israel join the NPT and accept international inspectors of its nuclear facilities. Israel was further angered by the fact that Iran and its nuclear weapons program were not even mentioned in the resolution.

Although US officials explained that a vote for the motion was obligatory given Obama’s comprehensive quest for a world without nuclear weapons. Although Israel’s government and security leaders never said this in so many words, they felt the administration had let them down on a key pledge and freed them of the commitment to refrain from a surprise attack on Iran.

Debka in the above remarks has very clearly explained the situation. There is now deep distrust between all sections of the Israeli Government and all sections of the Obama Regime.

This is indeed something new. No matter how bad the previous Presidents of the US were, the fiction that they would stand by Israel was always, somehow, maintained.

That has been totally torn asunder. The Israeli people, and it is also certain the people around Netanyahu, NO LONGER TRUST THE AMERICAN REGIME OF OBAMA.

Netanuahu is NOT Livni. I read material put about on the net that Netanyahu and Livni are just different forms of poison. This is especially the political line put across by the so called “Jewish” website Israpundit

Such as the following ignorant comment from an obvious ignoramus in the field of political strategy

July 6, 2010 at 4:24 am

Actually he is probably a lot better than Livni would have been since she would have been a clone of BHO (Barry Sotero).

BB, Better than Livni is like a choice between Ebola and Anthrax

The above is the depth of analysis on that site!

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/24642#comments

What that leaves out, to put it simply so that those dolts can understand, Netanyahu is NOT the same as Livni, because a very serious election has intervened, when the vast majority decided that Livni would no longer be the leader of the Jews, and Netanyahu was put in Livni´s  place BY THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.

That kind of confusion by Israpundit, whose political line is as farcical as it is dangerous, has to be consciously opposed.

We on 4international are far from saying that Netanyahu is our hero, but we are saying in opposition to this treacherous Israpundit, that there is a difference between the Netanyahu Government and the previous Livni Government.

As we said above the essence of the matter is distrust. Livni was full of trust for the Arabs, before she led in the pulling of Jewish civilians and military from the Gaza. Livni also trusted Sharon and Bush.

The great gain of the Debka analysis is that it pinpoints that this trust is no longer there between the Israelis and the American Government. This is not a small matter in the whole post 1948 relations between these two pivotal states.

The Israeli prime minister and US president, in their talks Tuesday, must therefore forge a new “nuclear accord” governing both Iran and Israel.

*(Here I must confess I do not understand the Debka method, or are they being a little ironic. As they said already the trust is gone)

Assent on this question could ease the discord on four other key issues:
1.  Netanyahu says the “proximity talks,” formally started two months ago, have never really taken off, and progress on the topics at issue with the Palestinians demand direct talks for which he is fully prepared at any moment and for which Mahmoud Abbas has pre-conditions. The Israeli prime minister will discuss with the US president various formats for getting this dialogue on track, including a US-Saudi “Marshall Plan” for a Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza Strip that came up during Saudi King Abdullah’s visit to the White House on June 29.

2.   They will also explore ways for Israel to go back to construction in Jerusalem and the West Bank settlements, even nominally, after the 10-month freeze expires on Sept. 26 to ease the pressure on Netanyahu at home. Several Knesset factions held off until after the prime minister’s White House visit a bill requiring the government to seek a parliamentary majority for any further suspension of construction. The US will demand closer monitoring of any future freeze.

The idea of seeking a majority before there is any future suspension of building in the “settlements”. Things in Israel move slowly but they do move. Reminds one of the English revolutionaries in the Cromwellian revolution. This issue alone is the most fundamental. At stake is the fact that to satisfy Abbas there will have to be at least 300,000 Jews moved out of the “West Bank” so that these Muslims can have their Muslim only statelet (like Bosnia, like Kosovo, like Armenia etc)

3.  The crisis between Turkey and Israel. So far, Washington had avoided guaranteeing to withhold its support from a UN Assembly motion calling for an international commission to probe the flotilla incident in which Israeli commandos boarded a Turkish vessel leading a convoy for breaking Israel’s Gaza blockade and ended in a clash in which 9 Turkish activists were killed and 6 Israelis injured.
Israel’s eased embargo on civilian goods to Gaza was widely welcomed.

The two leaders will explore a possible joint US-Israeli stand against Turkish Prime Minister Tayyep Recip Erdogan in view of his deepening bonds with the Tehran-Damascus-Hizballah-Hamas bloc.

4.  They will also discuss how the US and Israel can work together against the continued flow of heavy weaponry, including ballistic missiles, from Syria to the Lebanese Shiite terrorist Hizballah.

 

At the start of this month Caroline Glick came closest to the position of Trotsky and Lenin in the Brest Litovsk treaty talks

(By the way, the very first thing which Trotsky did when he made his appearance at the talks, he being preceded by other Russian members of the team, was to end the cosy and friendly relations with the Germans. Little things, like insisting that the Russian team had a separate place to have their tea breaks etc, on the basis that there were issues that needed to be discussed, were not little things at all. At the same time Trotsky was eyeing up the opposition, to see who were the front men, and to understand who were the real powers on the German side, concluding that it was the German Army High Command, not even at the conference. Netanyahu needs to have the same formality established)

It is on the issue of the inter play of respective forces that Glick is so correct and well worth listening to:

What this means is that Netanyahu is well placed to stand up to Obama’s pressure. If he plays his cards wisely, he can say no to Obama and avoid an open confrontation. For instance, instead of agreeing to extend the building prohibition, Netanyahu should say that he is willing to discuss that demand in face-to-face negotiations with Abbas. Rather than agree to Abbas’s preconditions, Netanyahu should say that he is willing to listen to Abbas’s position in face-to-face negotiations. And so on and so forth. Such statements by Netanyahu will take the pressure for making concessions off him and put Obama and Abbas on the spot.

Even more importantly, it will buy Israel time.

And buying time should be Israel’s chief goal with respect to Washington today. Since taking office, Obama has repeatedly demonstrated that he will not reconsider his fundamentally hostile view of Israel. Obama’s basic belief that Israel’s strength and size are to blame for all the violence and radicalism in the Arab world is not subject to change, regardless of how clearly and continuously events on the ground prove it wrong.

EVEN WORSE for Israel, Obama is not alone in this view. Indeed, as a report in Foreign Policy this week makes clear, Obama’s position on Israel is moderate when compared to the positions being staked out in influential policy circles in the US military.

On Wednesday, Foreign Policy published the content of a memo written last month in the US Military’s Central Command. The memo, a “Red Team” assessment of how the US should position itself vis-à-vis the likes of Hamas and Hizbullah, reveals that among key members of the US policy-making community, Israel is viewed with extreme hostility.

The leaked memo reportedly reflects the views of a significant number of senior and mid-level officers in Centcom, including large numbers of intelligence officers, as well as a significant number of area analysts stationed in the Middle East. It argues that it is wrong for the US to lump jihadist movements like Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaida and Hizbullah in one group.

Dismissing the significance of the identical religious dogma that stands at the root of these movements, the memo asserts that Hamas and Hizbullah are pragmatic and important social forces with which the US must foster good relations.

The memo calls for the US to support the integration of Hizbullah forces into the Lebanese military. It also calls for the US to encourage and permit the integration of Hamas forces into the US-trained Palestinian security forces.

As far as Israel is concerned, the memo blames the Jewish state for the US’s failure to date to adopt these recommended policies. Moreover, the memo’s authors condemn Israel’s maritime blockade of Gaza as keeping “the area on the verge of a perpetual humanitarian collapse.”

The Centcom memo also condemns Israel’s July 2006 decision to respond to Hizbullah’s unprovoked bombardment of northern Israel and its unprovoked cross-border attack against an IDF patrol in which five soldiers were killed and two were kidnapped and subsequently murdered.

Denying Hizbullah’s subservient relationship with the Iranian regime, the report claims that Israel’s decision to use force to defend itself against Hizbullah’s acts of war served to strengthen Hizbullah’s ties to Teheran.

What this memo shows is that Israel has little hope of seeing a change for the better in US policy in the near future and its best bet today is to play for time. Next week at the Oval Office, Netanyahu should capitalize on his advantage four months ahead of the congressional elections and put the burden on Obama and Abbas to show their good intentions.

Playing for time is what Glick suggests should be considered. This is what the Bolsheviks did clearly at Brest Litovsk. And was Lenin a conservative???

That idea is laughable but instructional, especially when one looks at this unchallenged comment on Israpundit, from a commenter who claims to live in the Negev:

Glick has lost it. We know she is still in BB’s tank but her advice is to stall for time avoiding confrontation? BB can’t avoid confrontation w/out conceding the kitchen sink and he’s already close to that.

What is to be gained by avoiding the inevitable confrontation that will come like a tsunami after the elections, no matter what the results?

Israel should tell Hussein to go Fuck himself and take on Obama personally with everything we can throw at him. We have lot of cards and leverage but chickenshit BB and Barak too cowardly to use them.

Glick did raise a key point BB and Barak are scared out of their gourds of the Israeli leftist media and that’s what they fear most, more than Hussein. They both want power for it’s own sake along with greed and personal megalomania.

OK, we might have to pay a steep economic price. So I’ll herd goats till it blows over. No big deal.

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/24513#more-24513

You can see how utterly subjective is the comment above.

It goes without saying that there is no examination of the real correlation of forces between the US and Israel. For example, where are the American ordinary people, especially the American Christian community, on the issue? Are the Christian Evangelized well organized. What about the American Jews? Where do they stand. And many other issues need to be analysed. But the writer above makes it all subjective in the thought that he will herd goats. Big deal that!

Certainly Glick is right. But the real question to follow up on Glick is “waiting for what”? Who can come to the aid of Israel in this coming periood? That is the central question to which 4international will return

HOLOCAUST DENIAL LIES AT THE CENTRE OF MUCH REACTION TODAY…ESPECIALLY ON THE “LEFT”

by Felix Quigley

April 23, 2009

Joshua Rosenburg has drawn attention to a recent article by Carl Savich which deals with the antics of a very notorious character (His name is Marko Attila Hoare) and associate of Oliver Kamm of the Times of London, also a close associate of the equally notorious Harry´s Place website. We deal once again with this man going under the very peculiar name, let me repeat it for effect, in case our readers are unfamiliar…Marko Attila Hoare !

This study is all the more important because it deals with aspects of Holocaust Denial.

[Begin study of Marko Attila Hoare here]

British Marxist, anti-Serbian nutjob &amp; former Hague ICTY/NATO employee, Marko Attila Hoare and the Monty Python “Heinrich Himmler” sketch faux pas.

Hoare  is again proven an egregious liar about Alija Izetbegovic’s resurrected Bosnian Muslim Nazi “Handschar” [aka “Handzar”] division in this great article by Serbian-American historian, Carl Savich.

“Fact versus Delusional Fantasy: The Bosnian Muslim Government Reformed the Nazi SS Division Handzar”
http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/?p=518
April 19, 2009 – 12:58 pm
Marko Attila Hoare rejects and suppresses this factual image of Bosnian history in favor of a fantasy or delusional image from a television comedy. The real Heinrich Himmler (Heimlich Bimmler) reviewing the real or “historical” Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Handzar, 1943.

Did the Bosnian Muslim Army and Government reform or recreate the infamous Nazi SS Division Handzar or not? Based on Martko Attila Hoare’s response to my article, Hoare now concedes that, indeed, there was a formation in the Bosnian Muslim Army termed the “Handzar Division”.

Let me reiterate that. Hoare admitted that the Bosnian Muslim Government did indeed reform the Handzar Nazi SS Division of World War II. When you cut through and deconstruct all the indeologically-driven claptrap, innuendo, ad hominen, personal attacks, this is the conclusion that he reaches.

Hoare is so caught up in his own arrogance and conceit that he does not even notice that he admitted this fact.

The issue or question is and always was: Did the Bosnian Muslim Government have a unit in its ranks known as the Handzar Division? Hoare’s reply is: Yes.

 

Marko Attila Hoare used this fantasy image to illustrate his article on the reformed Bosnian Muslim Handzar Nazi SS Division. Michael Palin is shown as Heimlich Bimmler (Heinrich Himmler), John Cleese as Mr. Hilter (Adolf Hitler), and Graham Chapman as Ron Vibbentrop (Joachim von Ribbentrop), from a 1970 episode of Monty Python’s Flying Circus. Reality is rejected over delusional fantasy constructs.

Hoare, nevertheless, convinces himself that he was “vindicated” in denying the existence of the reformed Handzar Division. How does he do this? His rebuttal consists of challenging the strength of the reformed Handzar Division. Now that he admits that it existed, he now challenges the size of the formation. His argument is:  The reformed Handzar Division did exist, as you claimed, but it was very small. It was a little bitty Nazi SS Division, not a big bad full-sized Nazi SS Division!

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The Holocaust as joke? Michael Palin as Heimlich Bimmler (Heinrich Himmler) in a 1970 comedy sketch. Isn’t Hoare a Holocaust denier? Fact: Bosnian Muslims, Albanian Muslims, and Croats played a role in the real Holocaust.

But is this a valid argument? Is someone pregnant or not? Can you be pregnant by degree? Is someone dead or not? Can you be only dead to a small degree? Did the Bosnian Muslim Army recreate the Handzar Division or not? This requires a simple yes or no answer. What Hoare initially challenged and questioned was the existence of the division. To be sure, he hedged his bets and cheated by conceding that the division might exist “conceivably” but that its number was small in size.

Hoare hedged his bets this way: “[I]t is conceivable that there really was a handful of Muslim zealots who, during the recent war, fought on the Bosnian side and grandiloquently named themselves the ‘Handžar Division’ after this historic unit.”

Hoare, in essence, denied that the division existed at all. This was the gist of his article. Now he admits and concedes that it, in fact, existed. Now he argues that the unit or formation was a small one. It is hard to pinpoint exactly what he claimed because he constantly changes his arguments and contentions.

Fact versus delusional fantasy? This is a factual image of the real Henrich Himmler (Heimlich Bimmler) with the real Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Hnadzar which Hoare has suppressed and repressed. Delusional fantasy is more reassuring than factual reality.

A fair characterization of his initial argument was that there was no evidence for the reformation of the Handzar Division. The eyewitness account of military analyst and journalist Robert Fox was deemed not credible. Hoare disingenuously hedged his argument by claiming that “conceivably” it could have existed. The way to translate this argument is:  No, the Handzar Division was not reformed. But, nevertheless, it is possible it may have been reformed. Of course, this is nonsensical and absurd.
 
Hoare then concluded: “Monty Python is a much better source for accurate historical information than Neil Clark and his comrades.”

So was the Handzar Division reformed or not? In his rebuttal to my article, Hoare now admits that the Handzar Division was reformed. He again hedges his bets by claiming this time that it was a small unit formed by “zealots”. But, again, the size of the unit or formation was never the question or issue. If there was a small unit or formation in the U.S. Army or British Army termed the “Adolf Hitler Regiment” or “Das Reich Division”, would it be relevant or material that the unit in question was only made up of “a handful” of “zealots”? Now that the existence of the unit is accepted and acknowledged, the issue shifts to the size of the unit, which is unknown.

Hoare concluded:  “It would seem that the ‘Handžar Division’,  confidently described as numbering ‘about 6,000 troops’ by our friend, does indeed turn out to be a bit smaller when the available evidence is examined closely.”

Hoare here mischaracterized Fox’s original statement by quoting my  estimate of the strength of the unit. Fox stated that UN peacekeeping “officers” had told him that the reformed “Handzar Division” was “up to 6,000-strong.” Fox emphazied that the strength of the unit was an approximation or estimate made by UN observers. Fox refers to the formation as a “unit” and as an element of the Bosnian army. Hoare ignores this explicit language and now argues that Fox claimed that the reformed unit consisted of “about 6,000 troops”.  But nowhere does Fox state that the unit was made up of 6,000 troops. The phrase “up to 6,000-strong” could encompass any number from one member to 6,000 members. Moreover, Hoare ignored that fact that Fox referred to the formation as a “unit” in his report leaving the actual size open to debate. Fox referred to the members of the unit as “Handzars” and as “[h]ardline elements of the Bosnian army, like Handzar.” Fox wrote that the formation was a “unit” of the Bosnian army similar to other units: “The Handzars are working closely with other units around Fojnica. ” But even at 6,000 men, it would only have ranked as a regiment or brigade, which usually consist of up to 5,000 men, not a division, which is generally accepted as a formation of 10,000 men or more.  In short, the focus or emphasis of the Fox report was the existence of the unit, not the size, on which issue Fox only proffered a potential maximum figure that was based on a UN estimate.

Finally, Hoare rejected Fox’s 1993 news report from the London Daily Telegraph out of hand, but this was not done by the Republican Policy Committee of the United States Senate, which cited Fox’s report as credible and accurate. In a January 16, 1997 report, the Committee, chaired at the time by U.S. Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican from Idaho, noted that  “there exists another group known as the Handzar (’dagger’ or ’scimitar’) Division” and quoted from Fox’s report. Thus, members of the U.S. Senate, tasked with safeguarding the lives of U.S. troops, found Fox’s report to be factual, credible, and accurate. Only Marko Attila Hoare questioned the veracity and accuracy of the Fox report. Absurdly, the Bosnian Muslim Government or Army never denied the existence of the reformed “Handzar Division”. Only Hoare has done this. At the war crimes trials of Bosnian Muslim military commanders at the ICTY, the existence of the “Handzar Division” as part of the Bosnian Muslim Army is openly acknowledged and detailed.

The translation is: The Bosnian Muslim Government of Alija Izetbegovic reformed the Nazi SS Division Handzar during the 1992-1995 civil war. This is the only logical conclusion when one cuts through all of Hoare’s labels and propagandistic nomenclature.

Hoare uses a bevy of labels to do the thinking for him: “Serb-nationalists” (yes, with a hyphen!), “Milosevic supporters” (at least Hoare gets the correct pronunciation of his name with the correct Serbo-Croat form of his name), “Islamofascist” (no hyphen, a neologism popular after 9-11), “members of a US-based circle of Milosevic supporters and Srebrenica deniers” (an analogy with Holocaust deniers), “Great Serbia” (a propaganda term coined by Austria-Hungary before World War I), “ex-Maoist” (is that a good or a bad thing?), “Milosevic-supporting, Srebrenica-denying website” (hyphenated now, denoting an activity), “all good Chomskyites” (are there such people as “Chomskyites” out there?), “Serb nationalists and their supporters” (no hyphen;  do “Serb nationalists” have supporters?), “Serb nationalists and their fellow travellers”  (didn’t this term go out with the Joseph McCarthy Communist Witch Hunts during the 1950s Red Scare?), and “the Great Serbia supporters”.

How can one explain this plethora of labels? Why does Hoare use such preposterous and risible labels? We use labels to preclude thought or thinking. Labels are a shortcut to thinking and intellectual debate or discusiion. In fact, labels are meant to preclude or prevent any thought at all. This is why Hoare uses labels. They are mindless and senseless. Why use them then? In essence, Hoare does not want to debate or discuss these issues rationally or logically. He thus engages in the use of labels, what is termed “name calling” in propaganda analysis.  In propaganda, we use “pulpit words” or “glittering words” to describe ourselves and our own actions and the opposite words to describe our opponents. In short, Hoare wants to preclude any thought or debate. This is why he resorts to such propagandistic words. There is no thought or thinking going on, no discussion or debate or dialectic. There is only a stream of pre-selected labels or prejudiced or loaded words. It is like when Polonius asked Hamlet what he was reading:  “Polonius: What do you read, my lord? Hamlet: Words, words, words.”

The case is closed. As Detective Steve McGarrett would say to Detective Danny Williams, “Book ‘em, Danno!”

[end study of Marko Attila Hoare here]

The great strength of this study is that it shows that Marko Attila Hoare is responsible for a great revision of history, which is essentially what he does when he makes a joke about an aspect of the Holocaust in the Balkans.

Let us be very clear here. The Handzar division was a Nazi SS Division, and was created out of the forces of Islam in the Balkans.

To deny that is bad, but to deny as Hoare does that that was recreated by Izetbegovic is the most dangerous of all.

Because if you do that then you are saying that the study by Christopher Simpson in “Blowback” and in all the studies of the actions and words of Ahmadinejad in the present are of no relevance.

That another Holocaust is not possible!

That is the great fact that all on this British Imperialist Labourist wing surrounding Kamm, Harry´s Place, the British Media in total except for one noted journalist Eve Ann Prentice, worked might and main to keep hidden during the 90s and indeed since to this very day!

And that is where the Savich claim about Marko Attila Hoare Holocaust Denial is located. They are all guilty of this.

We on 4international have also met Jewish people who did not want to know about this aspect of history, or like Bill Narvey of Israpundit claimed that it had no relevance to today.

We also think that at the centre of all of the Fascist Leftist posturing of today on Israel lies a deep form of Holocaust Denial.

Behind the antics of people like Sinead Cusack now canvassing for her Israel hating son today in Ireland and wider is another form of truth denial, because what is denied is the situation of the Shoah which made it imperative to found Israel.

In fact all attacks that I see being made on Israel today, whether it is in Fatah and Abbas, in Hamas, in Hizbullah, or Iran…all are forms of Holocaust Denial.

There is another distortion which I would like our readers to understand acutely.

It was Leon Trotsky who emerged in the 1930s as the greatest advocate for Jewish nationalism, which he promoted because he had made a deep study of Fascism, and saw the great danger to the Jews from the Nazis.

For some reason the Lefts and “Trotskyists” have also hidden this aspect of history.

And in a strange way these things have come back together again in the grave danger to the Jews of Israel and all the Jews in the Diaspora from a combination of Fascist Islam and Fascist US Foreign policy (of Bush and Obama)

While we on 4international alone continue to fight to defend the Jews of Israel and insist that Israel has no choice but to wage war on the Iranian Nuclear agenda.

We do not wish this. But like Trotsky in the 1930s we are realistic and we try to emulate the realism of Trotsky re 1930s Fascism in the situation of today.

The essence of Hoare, and essentially also of Harry´s Place, Nick Cohen, Maggie O´Kane et al, in the following

The reformed Handzar Division did exist, as you claimed, but it was very small. It was a little bitty Nazi SS Division, not a big bad full-sized Nazi SS Division!

In their analysis of Marko Attila Hoare, in their insisting on his attempts of making a joke out of the Holocaust in the Balkans showing him as a real danger to Jewish people, Joshua and Carl have brought us a great deal further forward.

ISRAEL WILL ATTACK IRAN AND MUST BE SUPPORTED BY SOCIALISTS

by Felix Quigley

April 21, 2009

 

The clock is now ticking down to war between Israel and Iran, with the US Government lining up with Iran, that is with the Iranian Fascist regime, and everything about the US Fascists, Nazis and Jew Haters, and their alliance with their pet babies the Iranian Fascists right out in the open.

This is now totally unavoidable, as surely as night follows day.

This is what we on 4international have said consistently for at least 2 years. We base our analysis on a number of things.

1. That the Jews are indeed a real nation

2. That Islam is antisemitic to the core. The real essence of the Arab rulers in the Arab League and all those Islamist countries in the UN is to prevent Infidels having a base in THEIR lands.

3. The Mullahs of Iran are motivated by Jew Hatred just as much as were the German Nazis

4. In fact during the Holocaust there was at every level close relations between Islam and the German Nazis. That is fact, hidden but easily proven.

The key to the whole situation is the US Government and how the US elite and to some extent the EU elite is lining up with Islam.

The reason for this is extremely simple and if you are a Trotskyist just a little obvious. They both seek a union together against the threatened socialist revolution.

The following report from DEBKAfile will have to be digested with some urgency:

[Begin DEBKAfile report here]

dated April 21, 2009

DEBKAfile‘s military sources cite some Western intelligence and nuclear weapons experts as predicting that Iran could turn out nuclear weapons some time in the next 12 months.

This estimate is based on Tehran’s announcement that 7,000 centrifuges are in operation to enrich uranium. If all those machines were to work at top speed day and night, seven days a week, they could produce enough weapons-grade uranium to build a bomb in 60 days, say some intelligence sources. According to American experts, given the current rate of the program’s development, Iran will be in a position to manufacture as many as 60 nuclear bombs and warheads in 12 to 18 months.

This judgment was confirmed by Israel’s military intelligence (AMAN) chief, Maj. Gen. Amos Yadlin in his latest briefing to the cabinet Monday, April 20. He reported that Iran is going all-out for enriched uranium from overseas to shorten the process.

Japanese sources recently reported that a North Korean boat shipped a large quantity to Iran earlier this year. According to the big-circulation The Nikkei, the North Korean vessel’s hold carried a secret cargo of uranium highly-enriched to 50-60 percent. The ship set out for Iran in December, moving moved at a leisurely pace so as not to call attention from Western spy satellites, surveillance vessels and warships. Earlier this year, the illegal consignment was dropped at an Iranian port for transport to a facility near Tehran, according to the Japanese paper.

Yadlin noted that extreme economic crisis has not delayed Tehran’s headlong nuclear progress or curtailed its designs on other Middle East countries – Hizballah’s subversive activities in Egypt are not a lone instance. Inflation is officially put at 30 percent but is probably closer to 50 percent, while unemployment is deepening, yet Tehran upped the 2009 appropriation for its nuclear program by 15 percent.

Rather than translating the crisis into leverage for persuading Iran to abandon its nuclear objectives, the Israeli intelligence chief noted that the Obama administration has opened the door to dialogue with all the extremists of the Middle East, including Iran, albeit “with open eyes.”

Iran, for its part, is accelerating its nuclear program, taking full advantage of the undercover communications with Washington which are aimed at gaining Tehran’s cooperation for the US war effort in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

from

 

(Iran could produce first nuke

 in 60 days with 7,000

centrifuges  working 24/7

DEBKAfile Special Report

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6035

 

If as we on 4international believe that the Jews are a nation, and have been for thousands of years, then a number of things follow

1. There is no alternative. Israel must make war on the Mullahs, and specifically the Nuclear Bomb making of the Mullahs

2. The Mullahs are not an ordinary opponent, they are an opponent which denies the Holocaust. Logically that means that they have a new Holocaust of the Jews in mind

3. Israel will attack. That is the historical role of Netanyahu and his colleague Lieberman

4. Because without that attack the Jewish nation is as good as dead.

And that is what is spelled out in the Debka report above and is the esence of the position of 4international. Israel must act! Israel must be supported by all socialists and progressive peoples. That support given the power of antisemitism has to be fought for.

YAMIT82…NOBODY IS LAUGHING OUT LOUD

by Felix Quigley

Israpundit is a very important site for the Jewish people especially now that there has to be organized a great discussion on just how Israel can face up to its enemies.

The news which has emerged from a source within the talks going on between the Israeli ruling class of Livni and Olmert, with the Palestinian Arab fascists presided over by the US Imperialists of Bush, led in the talks by Rice, shows the enormous dangers which Israel and the lives of all Jews are in. This is why we on 4international are very critical of some of the discussions that are taking place there. The most recent issue is over the issue of apostasy and the general position of religion in the Jewish strugggle. Nobody really likes tackling this but it has to be tackled head on if we are to have the discussion necessary for the saving of Israel from its enemies.

REPORT SHOWS GREAT DANGER TO ISRAEL…BUT ISRAPUNDIT BETRAYS

By Felix Quigley

Israel is now in the greatest danger that it has ever been in during all of its life. We on 4international have repeatedly emphasised that the way in which Yugoslavia was destroyed (wiped off the map) was through an alliance of American, British and German Imperialism which set up reactionary alliances with Fascist/Nazi entities within Yugoslavia. Those entities were the Fascists around Tudjman in Croatia, the Islamofascists in Bosnia around Izetbegovic, and the Thaci/Haradinaj Fascists and Stalinists of Kosovo. Weak on their own, nevertheless the role of US and NATO/EU Imperialism with all of its power, especially Military power linked to Media power, meant that the Serbs were isolated and defeated. Much of this went on behind the scenes, the public were not aware because the public always underestimates the role of conspiracy and secrecy in how the ruling Capitalist class works.

This is the great danger to the Jews today.

THE RETURN OF FASCIST KILLER HARADINAJ

By Felix Quigley

On 4international we intend to follow this man. His name is Ramush Haradinaj, everybody knows he is a killer and has murdered in cold blood many ordinary Serb peasants and simple country folk, we on 4international have already proved that and have exposed the alliance of the US and EU Imperialists with this killer of Serbs, an alliance which goes to the very tops of the US Elite, to Bush, Lieberman, Cheney, Holbrooke and McCain.

THE BANKRUPTCY OF SULTAN KNISH…TROTSKYISM WILL NOT BE SILENCED

by Felix Quigley

It is completely impossible to silence Trotskyism in this period because – just as in 1933 – only the policies and political programme of Leon Trotsky, the great Russian Revolutionary Socialist leader, could have saved the lives of 6 millions of Jews who were to perish at the hands of the Fascist Nazis. So therefore the recent horrific attack on Leon Trotsky by Sultan Knish just cannot stand.

IMRA POLL REFUTES MANY LIES AGAINST ISRAEL

By Felix Quigley

On November 15, 2007 the results of a very important and comprehensive poll of Israeli Jewish people was taken. The people who carried out this poll were of the highest integrity. The results were interpreted by IMRA.  What is happening in the world today is massive lying about reality. We experienced this on the whole issue of Yugoslavia, it is happening in relation to China and Tibet, it is happening in relation to Russia and the encirclement of Russia by Bush’s US Imperialism, and it is happening in all of the lies told against Israel.

US/NATO OWNED HAGUE ICTY KANGAROO COURT FREES KLA MASS MURDERER, RAMUSH HARADINAJ

Compiled by Nathan Pearlstein & Peter Robert North

Just a few days ago, the imperialist US/NATO owned and controlled ICTY Kangaroo Court in the Hague, Netherlands,  released the Islamist Nazi KLA mass murderer, Ramush Haradinaj. 

That they would do this was predicted in early 2005, by Gregory Copley, the president of the prestigious and world-renowned International Strategic Studies Association – the parent organization of the Defense & Foreign Affairs group of publications, based in Alexandria, Virginia, in the Washington, D.C. area of the United States.  See their reports on ex-Yugoslavia here:

 http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Balkanindex.htm

What follows is indisputable proof that the United States government – both Republican and Democrat administrations – planned IN ADVANCE all along the early release – or total immunity from prosecution – of virtually every one of the Islamist Nazi terrorist Albanian KLA mass murderers led by Hashim Thaci(e.g. Agim Ceku and Ramush Haradinaj); the Bosnian SDA Islamofascist murderers led by Alija Izetbegovic (e.g. Naser Oric in June 2006); and the Croatian Ustasha Nazi mass murderers led by the late Franjo Tudjman and Stipe Mesic (e.g. Ante Gotovina,Tomislav Mercep, Dobrosav Paraga ).

This repetitive US,NATO/EU intervention on behalf of Islamofascist/Nazi killers of innocent civilians in furtherance of Western geostrategic imperialism (expansion) in the Balkans – with the result being the European expansion of Fascist Islam – has very grave implications not just for the people of Serbia and the rest of Europe, but also grave implications for Israel and the Jewish people.

Ex-Clinton administration “peace envoy” Richard Holbrooke – beneficiary of  the Albanian KLA Islamist Nazi Narco-Terrorist Child Sex Slavery Mafia – gets the president of the US/NATO owned and controlled Hague ICTY Kangaroo Court to free the ex-Kosovo “Prime Minister” and KLA Islamist Nazi war criminal – Ramush Haradinaj – IN ADVANCE of his totally phony “surrender” and “trial” at the Hague ICTY:

“a deal would be struck to ensure that he did not serve prison time for the charges he faced.”  

THE SULTAN KNISH IS A PRO IMPERIALIST

By Felix Quigley

Sultan Knish …what sort of a name is that! It is obviously a fake name and unlike Israpundit, I do not like our writers on 4international to use anything other than their real names. All the same, this really made me laugh:

Sultan introducing his blog:

Named one of the Jewish Press’ Most Worthwhile Blogs, 2006, 2007 and 2008 Cited at Front Page Magazine and One Jerusalem and Little Green Footballs and American Thinker and Hot Air
Quoted by Daniel Pipes , Atlas Shrugs, Debbie Schlussel and Tim Blair, Judith Klinghoffer and Michelle Malkin
Referenced by Michael Savage , AM 770 CHQR – The World Tonight with Rob Breakenridge , 670 WCBM Sean and Frank and Jim Ball  

But I am a revolutionary socialist, Mr Knish, a Trotskyist, and I do not give two figs for all of that top brass in the Jewish world acknowledgement. They might just all be gullible, and wrong. So I will take what he writes about a known enemy of Israel and see how he fares. Quote from Knish first…what I make of his politics following…

ISRAEL IS FORCED TO HAND OUT GAS MASKS

This is a report just out from Exodus Times of today, Thursday April 4, 2008. We are talking once more of gas in the context of the killing of Jews. The links with the Nazi Holocaust, with the founder of the Palestinian Arab movement by main Palestinian Arab and Holocaust Nazi organizer Hajj Amin el Husseini is obvious. In the eyes of these Arab Fascists, like Hamas, Fatah and Hezbullah, the Holocaust did not end. Meanwhile the main issue facing humanity, not just Jews, the threat of Iranian Fascist Mullahs, to bomb Israel with Nuclear, remains the main existentialist question above all others facing Israel.

The Vatican’s Holocaust Against The Serbs, Jews & Roma in Ustasha Nazi Croatia From 1941-1945

Posted by Nathan Pearlstein

Soon, in all parks and public transport vehicles, a new inscription appeared: “Entry forbidden to all Serbs, Jews, Gypsies, and dogs.” The Ministry of the Interior, led by Andrija Artukovic, issued the following decree: “All the Serbs and the Jews residing in Zagreb, the Capital of Croatia, must leave the town within 12 hours. Any citizen found to have given them shelter will be immediately executed on the spot.”

The Vatican’s Holocaust

The sensational account of the most horrifying religious massacre of the 20th century

By Avro Manhattan

Avro Manhattan (1914-1990)

About the Author:

Avro Manhattan was the world’s foremost authority on Roman Catholicism in politics. A resident of London, during WW II he operated a radio station called “Radio Freedom” broadcasting to occupied Europe. He was the author of over 20 books including the best-seller The Vatican in World Politics, twice Book-of-the-Month and going through 57 editions. He was a Great Briton who risked his life daily to expose some of the darkest secrets of the Papacy. His books were #1 on the Forbidden Index for the past 50 years!!

The Vatican’s Holocaust – Revealed at Last!

A sensational account of the most horrifying religious massacre of the 20th century. Startling revelations of forced conversions, mass murder of non-Catholics, Catholic extermination camps, disclosures of Catholic clergy as commanders of concentration camps; documented with names, dates, places, pictures and eyewitness testimony.

KRAJINA…HOW THE LIE WAS TOLD

by Felix Quigley

Why has it been so well hidden that the state of Croatia, backed by the US and EU Imperialist powers, carried out a massive act of ethnic cleansing in the Krajina? Rather more to the point is: how has it been hidden?

Why did the “truth seeking” journalists of the world not move in and do their job, simply report?

Tudjman & the Croatian Ustashe Nazi genocide of Krajina Serbs: Part 2

Compiled by 4International writers: Nathan Pearlstein, Joshua Rosenberg, Max Rosenthal & Shlomo Baum

The late Croatian pro-Ustashe Nazi and Hitler-loving, Holocaust-denying antisemitic president, Franjo Tudjman, wrote in his 1988 Croatian version of Hitler’s Mein Kampf, entitled: “Wastelands of Historical Truth”(aka “Wastelands of Historical Reality”) the following:

“The establishment of Hitler’s New Order could be justified by the need to be rid of the Jews, as well as to correct the French-British sin of the (post WW1) Versailles setup” and… “Genocidal violence is a natural phenomenon in harmony with the societal and mythologically Divine nature. Genocide is not only permitted it is also recommended, even commanded by the Word of the Almighty, whenever it is useful for the survival or the restoration of the earthly kingdom of the chosen nation, or for the preservation and spreading of its one and only correct faith”.

The prestigious US-based publication “Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy” in its January 1993 edition, wrote the following:

 [start quote]

Tudjman, at the first convention of the Croatian Democratic Union (Hrvatska Demokratska Zajednica: HDZ), on February 26, 1990, said, in the presence of more than 100 Ustashi war criminals who had escaped the law courts and fled to international havens after World War II: “The Independent State of Croatia [ie: the World War II Croatian Ustashe Nazi state] was not only a mere Quisling creation, but also an expression of the historical aspirations of the Croatian people for an independent state of their own and recognition of international factors–the Government of Hitler’s Germany in this case.”

 

Tudjman delivered a speech to the Croatian Sabor (parliament) on the occasion of the proclamation of the Republic of Croatia on December 22, 1990. In the Constitution he proposed, and which was adopted, the Serbs lost their nation status within Croatia, and were relegated to the status of a national minority. The official war against the Serbs had been resumed.

Even before Croatia became independent, the Croatian Minister of Internal Affairs, Martin Spegelj, advised his colleagues: “We are in the war with [ie: against] the Army [Yugoslav Army:JNA] Should anything happen, kill them all in the streets, in their homes, through hand grenades, fire pistols into their bellies, women, children …We will deal with [the Croatian Serb Krajina town of] Knin by butchering.”

IMPERIALISM AND ATROCITY POLITICS

By Felix Quigley

Carl Savich who is associated with www.serbianna.com has written a review of a book about Yugoslavia, which is of immense importance to the person trying to get a more comprehensive understanding of the many strands, which went to make up the total destruction of the state which was known for a hundred years plus as Yugoslavia.