GREAT EFFORT BY ISRAEL TO HELP NEPAL AFTER HORROR EARTHQUAKE

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It is a terrible tragedy and our hearts fo out to the Nepalese. These are a poor people, a beautiful people. It is a long time since I read my first book about Tenzing Norgay and it was not about the ascent of Everest with Hillary either. It was about a previous much more romantic attempt without oxygen and they nearly made it. Hardly any planning. Just went for it. Have lost that book but it was a duo effort just the two guys taking on the mountain.

Sincé then much wáter has flowed under the bridge. I now am quite thrilled by the sympathy and the effort to help the Nepalese carried out by Israel. The statistics of their effort are amazing. I will deal with these but I note most strongly that this has nothing to do with Israel wanting to be liked. I refute that totally. As an Irishman I refute that totally. It comes instead out of the Jewish sould and charácter. If it can be explained it is religious with a strong element of humanitarianism. Compare that Outlook with the Outlook of Islam and their actions in our world of slitting the throats of the poorest of humans on a Libyan beach, or abducting poor defenseless Nigerian girls and you begin to understand.

Bu the way since I AM a hard headed political person and I understand (seeing it every day) the lies against Jews and the hatred against Israel then I want to let every person in the world know how Israel came to the aid of the Nepalese. That is not a plea. That is not weakness. That is part of my struggle against Antisemtiism.

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Where’s the Coverage? Israel Sends More Manpower tHAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY

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Israeli soldiers set up a field hospital together with the Nepalese army in Nepal following the deadly earthquake on April 29, 2015. (IDF Spokesperson)

Israel frequently sends aid teams to countries hit by natural disasters such as post-earthquake Haiti and tsunami-stricken Japan. Nepal is no different. The Times of Israelreports:

Israel’s aid team to the earthquake-battered Himalayan nation of Nepal is the largest in manpower of any international aid mission.Over 250 doctors and rescue personnel were part of an IDF delegation that landed Tuesday in the Nepalese capital, Kathmandu, in the wake of Saturday’s magnitude-7.8 earthquake that devastated large swaths of the mountainous country, killing at least 5,000 and leaving some 8,000 wounded and tens of thousands seeking shelter and food.

The Israeli group set up a field hospital with 60 beds that began operations on Wednesday in coordination with the local army hospital. 

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By comparison, according to the BBC, the United Kingdom has sent “a team of more than 60 search and rescue responders and medical experts” and Time magazine reports that the United States is sending “about 70 American personnel”. Remember, Israel has a population of approximately 8 million. The United States is a nation of roughly 350 million. In that context, the magnitude of Israel’s efforts is even more staggering.

But instead of lauding Israel’s extraordinary response to Nepal’s distress, the mainstream media seeks to cast Israel in a bad light, highlighting of all things the fact that a number of Israeli couples employ Nepalese women as surrogate mothers to carry their children. A Time magazine headline states that “Israel Evacuates Surrogate Babies From Nepal but Leaves the Mothers Behind” although, if a reader managed to make it to the sixth paragraph of the article, he would read that, of the women in Nepal still carrying Israeli babies:

The Israeli Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein said he would allow the most heavily pregnant to be flown to Israel to give birth and outgoing Interior Minister Gilad Erdan promised to remove immigration hurdles for the rest.

Newsweek also chose to highlight the surrogacy issue with its article, “Israel Evacuating Babies Born to Surrogate Mothers in Nepal” as did UPI with “Israel evacuates surrogate babies and their Israeli parents but left behind expectant mothers”.

Worse still, instead of clebrating Israel’s herculean humanitarian efforts in a country half way around the world, as someone who cares about those in need would be expected to do, the executive director of Human Rights Watch, Kenneth Roth, actually tweeted, “Easier to address a far-away humanitarian disaster than the nearby one of Israel’s making in Gaza. End the blockade!”

And here’s something else interesting that the media chooses to completely ignore: the commander of Israel’s field hospital in Nepal is a Druze, IDF Colonel Dr. Tarif Bader.

To keep abreast of Israel’s aid efforts in Nepal, follow Libby Weiss, the Head of the IDF Spokesperson’s North American Media Desk, on Twitter. You certainly won’t hear about it from the popular press because… Where’s the coverage?

http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63606369

YES ISRAEL MUST URGENTLY RECOGNIZE ULSTER, SCOTLAND AND CATALONIAN INDEPENDENCE

It seems that quite a few European countries are in the process of “recognizing” the “state” of “Palestine.”  The question arises as to what the appropriate response from Israel should be to these actions by the Europeans. (WRITES THE ISRAELI PROFESSOR STEVEN PLAUT IN AN ABSOLUTELY BRILLAINT PROPOSAL THAT 4INTERNATIONAL BELIEVES IN AND WILL ACT ON)

Here is a plan:

Scottish Independence and Equality

If Belgium recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Flemish, the Walloons, and the Belgium Germans, and officially recognize the right of each group to set up its own state.

If Denmark  recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movement of the Faroese and officially recognize the right of the Faroe Islands to be an independent state.

If Finland recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Åland Swedes, and officially recognize their right to set up their own state.

If France recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Basques in France, of Brittany, of Northern Catalonia, of Savoy, of Occitania, and of course of Corsica.   Israel should officially recognize their right to set up their own states and arm them generously.

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If Germany recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Bavarians, the East Frisians, the Franconians, the Lusatians, and the people of Shleswig-Holstein, and Israel must officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

If Italy recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Sardinians, the South Tyrolese, and the people of Lombardy, and officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

If Holland recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Frisians, and officially recognize their right to set up their own state.

If Russia recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements inside Russia, a list of whom would fill a page,, and officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

If Spain recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Basques, the Catalans, the Andalusians, the Aragonese, the Asturians, the Balearic Islanders, the Cantabrians, the Leonese, the Galicians, and the Portuguese living in Spain.  Israel must officially recognize the right of each group to set up its own state.

If Sweden recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Scanians, and officially recognize their right to set up their own state.

If Switzerland recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Genevans, Jurassiens, and the people of Ticino, and officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

If Turkey recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize all the separatist movements inside Turkey, first and foremost the Kurds, officially recognize their right to set up their own states and arm them to the teeth.

If the UK recognizes “Palestine,” then Israel must recognize the separatist movements of the Scots, the Welsh, the Manx, Cornwall, Ulster, the Shetland Islands, the Orkney Islands, the Outer Hebrides, and officially recognize their right to set up their own states.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/16073

FURTHER COMMENT BY 4INTERNATIONAL

Israel really should issue clear statement on
Kurds
Ulster
Catalonia
Basques
Scotland
Crimea (if they want it)

and needs to be done without delay (the hotter they are the better it is for Israel)

ISRAEL MUST UNDERSTAND WHAT IT STANDS FOR HISTORICALLY

The Jews are a very historical people and nation and hold big sway. Just a statement of intent is a very powerful blow struck for its own freedom and also for the freedom of nations, and against all forms of Big Nation repression

Just imagine the power in this. Imagine the stir this will créate in the staid halls of the BBC… they will go insane. Why not! What has Israel to lose? Nothing and everything to gain!

THERE IS A COMPLETE VACUUM OF LEADERSHIP IN ISRAEL AND ISRAEL IS SINKING LIKE A STONE

this is the two state theory summed up in all its gory reality

From the recent Martin Sherman article on Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Into-the-fray-The-Arabs-war-against-the-Jews-cont-Root-causes-and-red-herrings-383081 ) there is this paragraph among many memorable paragraphs:

 

From the newly elected president, Reuven Rivlin, to veteran Police Chief Yohanan Danino, statements explicitly alleging or insinuating that the Jews’ own conduct – such as exercising their right of access to religious sites or legislative initiatives to codify in law the values reflected in the Declaration of Independence – precipitated, or at least, exacerbated, recent Arab butchery of innocent Jews in the streets, on the roads, inside synagogues, and at building sites across the country. – end quote

 

Rivlin we know. Danino is head since a couple of years ago of ALL of the police in Israel. He is a top dog really! And the type of person elected to be top dog is a man who was behind the persecution of Liberman, the Russian Israeli politician and essentially patriot (despite many issues he is that)

 

Even this one paragraph throws up serious issue and offers a light into the reality of Israeli elitist betrayal of the Jewish Zionist cause

 

Meanwhile the various bloggers on sites such as Israpundit and on Sherman’s own Facebook page simply cannot get to terms with the central issue which is ESSENTIALLY totally about leadership and the absence of patriotic leadership which CAN lead.

 

Sherman himself who is principled does not engage in hero worship of anybody and in the paragraph previous to this alludes to my central point – that it is an overall crisis of leadership of Israel that is at stake. Read this first and carefully before I comment:

 

One senior public figure after another – not only on the Left of the political spectrum – have come out with declarations that have ranged from regrettably inappropriate, through hopelessly unfounded, to dangerously counter-productive. (end quote)

 

I do not wish to divert but…Note that Sherman uses this outdated and irrelevant term the “Left” when the issue is one of nationalism and patriotism and not the price of bread. It is a corrupt term leading to corruption of the mind – the worst kind!

 

But having said that Sherman is very clear! It is as he says and I repeat “not only on the Left of the political spectrum” … that the betrayal of Israel is taking place.

 

In other words he is saying as I am – It is a total crisis of leadership. As far as true and principled leadership is concerned it is vacuum country.

 

As I said about a year ago there is a complete vacuum of leadership in Israel where all kinds of (what can I call them lets be charitable) “idiots” creep in

 

To finish off let me see how Martin Sherman ends his piece and it is the way actually that he ends every piece:

 

 Unless the Jews convey the unequivocal message that any such challenges will be met with overwhelming force, they will increasingly be the victims of such force at the hands of their Arab adversaries.

 

There may be those who find this prescription excessively harsh.

 

Sadly, the only way the Jews can avoid living permanently by the sword is to convey convincingly to the Arabs that they have the resolve to do so. I invite everyone to consider the alternative.

 

Only Arab despair can bring any hope for peace. (end quote)

 

I agree with every word in the above but I say in the ABC of politics the above is a very tiny A or (a)

 

In reality it is really tame because it does not deal at all with power and with the former scenario of the PRESIDENT and the HEAD OF POLICE being absolute scoundrels, and as far as Jewish patriotism is concerned THEY ARE NOT remotely so!

 

ANOTHER TAME ENDING

 

There are just 3 paragraphs to read in the Caroline Glick latest article – again the last three THE ENDING!

 

After much good analysis about this strange new Netanyahu Bill Caroline ends like this:

 

Rather than doing the hard work of running a continuous, relentless campaign to accrue the requisite power to reform the system, politicians on the Right have embraced an unnecessary bill that will do nothing to protect Israel’s future.

 

On the other hand, their counterparts on the Left have shown that the Israeli Left is today largely indistinguishable from the international Left which rejects Israel’s right to exist and rejects the Jewish people’s right to sovereignty and freedom in its homeland. With Haaretz acting as the conduit between the BDS movement and government ministers, politicians on the Left have become unmoored from the basic requirements of national life.

 

In other words, the current maelstrom over the draft Nation State bill shows that Israel’s political Right is far weaker than it needs to be and that Israel’s political Left is far more destructive than it ought to be.(end quote)

http://carolineglick.com/the-storm-over-the-teacup/

 

I mean what an ending! What is THAT about!

 

I feel as if I am in the middle of a large and deep lough and unable to swim and Caroline has planted me there.

 

There is just no way out of that last sentence of Caroline´s. I am sinking and if this is the best (Caroline) that Israel can do it will sink like a stone.

WE NEED A NEW PARTY TO SPEARHEAD NO ANTISEMITISM (PALESTINIANISM) IN ISRAEL

 

As Caroline Glick and Martin Sherman among many others are saying the whole of the Operation in Gaza has been a defeat for Israel. Israel and the IDF did not settle the issue of Hamas rockets and tunnels.

 

War is not casual. There is always a decisión. More than that targets always have to be set. The main problem in this case is that war was not declared and no targets were set.

 

Netanyahu and his group who control the Media and the State in Israel must not be allowed to ever spin it in any way that suggests a victory.

 

If no war was declared with clear aims that is a problem. If no targets were clearly set another big problem

 

War was NOT declared. Targets changed as things developed.

 

I am proposing that this looseness of language, action, aims, targets, is a result of how Israel is actually governed.

 

WAR RUN BY ONE MAN AND ONE OTHER

The war was run by two people, Netanyahu and Ya’alon (Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon)

 

The war, not called a war I repeat, was not run by a cabinet with the cabinet delegating. There was no delegation. Netanyahu decided.

 

It was also run by the Army Generals, that is the leadership of the IDF, in which Israeli Intelligence was involved too. But not by Cabinet.

 

A leader Danny Dayon was expelled from the Cabinet by Netanyahu because he did not toe THIS line, which is a line of ruling through a non cabinet cabal.

 

This is how no decisión was made to go to war and no targets were set, which resulted in something not war but “operation” (Operation Protective Edge), and not targets of war but tactics which were changing.

 

All of that has resulted in a failure. Every Israeli today knows that the rockets are not destroyed and the tunnels were not destroyed (Debka reports that only tunnels within a few miles of the border were hit by the IDF. Were they all hit? No! And that leaves the whole network in this strip which lead into these tunnels. The whole strip sits now on these deadly tunnels. And the same thing with the rockets, the majority still in existence in Gaza.

 

Politicaly too the war is lost totally. The Obama and Netanyahu line is to bring Abbas forward. But Caroline Glick shows that this is a récipe for disaster and for the introduction of rockets, powerful with guidance, into those tunnels

 

Lost too because Hizbullah and Iran are drawn in by Obama to this solution. That means defeat in spades for Netanyahu and his “Operation”

 

The question is how to form a clear point of opposition to Netanyahu?

 

4international has noted what a great job Martin Sherman has done in his last article in which he records in historical detail (Ben Gurion, Begin, Sharon) how Israeli héroes sell out at critical moments.

 

TURN OF BIBI TO BETRAY…BIG TIME

Now it is the turn of Netanyahu to betray. Netanyahu too is a favoured son of Israel, the brother of the Entebbe Raid hero, absolutely part of Jewish folklore. Caroline Glick has noted in great detail the ACTUAL (historical detail is her strong point) role of Abbas and how Obama, Kerry and maybe Netanyahu are pushing this person to the Forefront. Note as the UN was the front for Hamas in Gaza, as Caroline points out very clearly and above all comprehensively, detail very impressive, that now it will be Abbas, UN as front for Hamas.

 

http://carolineglick.com/obamas-new-plan-for-hamas/

 

There are many who are voicing the above feelings of dissidence with the ruling elite in Israel from the side of patriotism. (Note the use of left and right as commonly used in Israeli politics is not allowed on this site. These terms are meaningless in the broad world) (Martin Sherman I request you to be careful in using these terms…I have strong backing in this from Francisco Gil White, Jared Israel and Richard Landes)

 

But meanwhile back to this war situation and how practically to proceed.

 

I feel that complex issues can always be reduced down to simple things. In the case of Lenin it was BREAD the people were starving, PEACE the horrific world war 1, LAND many centuries of peasant oppression. (I know this example best so I use it and I think it should be used…this is not pushing “communism” even though I do that as well, and proudly so)

 

I see so many plans and schemes pushed forward by Jews. I know why. They are all trying to do their best and are so fearful of the future given their past.

 

But I try to reduce it to a simple concept. How about “Root out Antisemitism … out of the land of Israel”. Rephrase but keep the meaning.

 

To my studied political position as an irishman I hold that to throw a single Stone against a Jew in Israel (or anywhere on earth) IS ANTISEMITISM IN THE EXTREME.

 

So go figure! What does that mean in practice? it means it is ALL antisemitism in action today!

 

We can ask what does patriotism or authentic nationalism mean in Israel. It can have a religious aspect but still must be practical to survive … after all all human life is practical.

 

The whole of the campaign by Netanyahu in this Gaza Operation was an exercise in how to provide your Antisemite Enemies with all the ammunition they need to stir up vile Antisemitism in the world.

 

The biggest lesson is that the world is going to accuse Israel of being Nazi etc. anyway, whether they send warnings before destroying every empty house, whether they abort missions or not. So why do it?

 

The biggest lesson is that last paragraph above. Study any war, anywhere in the history of warfare and you will find that you attack the enemy with force and without warning. Also you do it decisively, brutally because war is brutal, and over as short a time period as possible. In other words you seek always to pulverise the enemy.

 

Those are the rules of warfare. But that is not adequate for this Jewish cabal who leads Israel since 1948. They want to have special rules for the Jews at war where the Jews are to be seen by the world as super humanitarians.

 

Why not just go to war TO WIN, end the war with victory in as short a period as possible TO WIN AND SAVE LIFE, having achieved victory and pulverized the enemy then be merciful if mercy is possible.

 

The very first consideration for a new leadership, as opposed to what has been in Israel since 48, is to face this consideration at the staart of this war.

 

Hamas control Gaza and the UN in Gaza is an arm of Hamas.

 

ANOTHER CONSIDERATION A NEW LEADERSHIP MIGHT WRITE ON THE BLACKBOARD AT PLANNING STAGE:

 

Evidence from Mohammed el Dura/France2 and from Qana (EU Referendum Reports) that the enemy have a vast Pallywood industry in operation.

 

We knew totally that the enemy control all aspects of the international media in Gaza, something which happened also totally in Yugoslavia against Milosevic and the Serbs.

 

So why did the Netanyahu group therefore do it like that, giving every opportunity and all of the time in the world for the enemy to promote their Pallywood productions and the international media to set up their extensive and long running campaigns of vilification of Israel AND OF JEWS?

 

I return again to these two great assets for Israel:

 

Caroline Glick has showed in the latest article in great detail how Fatah also is an arm of Hamas. This has great importance for the tactics now to be used.

 

Martin Sherman in his latest article showed how every Israeli leader since 1948, especially those with a bit of a name for bravery like Sharon and Begin, that they were a disaster in leadership

 

I cannot say that a Trotskyist Party can come forward this week or even next month and it pains me to say that. Trotskyisn was wiped out in 1940 by Stalin and by Hitler and by all capitalist governments. Roosevelt promoted Stalinism.

 

Nevertheless there must be a next practical step by patriots (Note again I shun the use of “Right” here a term that is lethally self-limiting for a great cause)

 

There must now be a new organised NEW party created on a platform opposed to a SECOND Palestine Arab state in Israel. Netanyahu has of course placed himself outside of this. Such a party is in opposition to Netanyahu. But note at times in unity and in defence of too.

 

Martin Sherman and Caroline Glick plus many others must continue their activity, telling Jews and the world the truth, but they must do it as part of an organised party which is in opposition to the present ruling group.

 

Of course such a party must defend Netanyahu and others who are actually our enemies if they come under attack from the Antisemites, but that is a necessary defence against the enemy, especially necessary to enable the discussion to proceed.

 

This defence of our political opponents becomes ever more necessary in a period like today when there is a Muslim Brotherhood man in charge of America with all the power that Obama brings to his mission to promote the Muslim Brotherhood. I return to this theme of how to defend Netanyahu at times agains the enemy precisely because of Obamam who is a Muslim hater of Jews

 

Now Obama clearly sees the need and the opportunity to rescue Hamas by promoting Abbas and Fatah.

 

El Sisi like Mubarak remains an Antisemitic Arab. The situation not to go along with Obama support for Abbas becomes ever more critical.

 

Israel does not need grand plans and it simply needs to find a way through a party to express its needs at each point

 

IMMEDIATE AND UNPOSTPONABLE STEPS

The very first step is to explain to the Israeli people that the Operation in Gaza did not and was never meant to defeat Hamas.

 

Moreover explain that Abbas is actually worse than Hamas. They are all part of the same Antisemitic scheme in the world against Jews and Israel.

 

That is the single most important issue to be fought out and clarified in front of every single Israeli today, and that includes those Arabs in Israel who love Israel.

 

It is a political and a practical task and not a religious one that has to be carried out. In this case freedom of religion means putting an end to Antisemitism in Israel. Start there at least!

 

 

 

ISRAEL IS NOT EXHAUSTED AS THE BBC CLAIMED THIS MORNING

THE SAME TASKS STILL EXIST! ISRAEL MUST TAKE OVER GAZA AND SMASH HAMAS! THERE IS NO OTHER WAY!

91% of Israeli Jews support the ongoing ‘Operation Protective Edge” and 85% would only support a cease-fire agreement if Israel eliminated every Hamas rocket and destroyed the full network of terror tunnels  used by Hamas to attack Israeli civilians, Arutz Sheva reports.

 

Top Pentagon intelligence official believes that the destruction of Hamas would only lead to something more dangerous taking its place – like ISIS.

 

The decision that was facing the Israeli leadership of the war was exactly that. Should Israel go on and break up the Hamas organization and take control of the Gaza? Or should Israel seek a deal with Hamas?

 

It is very, very unfortunate indeed that Israel in the first 3 days of the war did not take over the Gaza. This would have repeated the time honoured methods of warfare as practiced in Ireland by the Irish King Brian Boru against the Danes which is to take the ground that the enemy sits on and hold on to that ground

 

As stated above it is clear that 91 of the Israelis would have supported Netanyahu if he had done that.

 

I am absolutely certain that the great majority of the American people would have supported Israel smashing up Hamas in Gaza.

 

So why on earth did Netanyahu not do that in the first 3 days of the war?

 

This is the crisis of leadership in Israeli politics. 4international disagrees with Martin Sherman on this. It is not enough to ask the Israeli leaders to do it. It is necessary to get rid of Netanyahu and to replace him with leaders who will do this.

 

That is the next step. It was always and will remain the next step.

 

ISRAEL MUST NOT BECOME BEGGARS. ISRAEL MUST TAKE CONTROL OF GAZA AND SMASH HAMAS.

 

 

US called for “immediate ceasefire without preconditions”. Israeli leaders agreed and now appear to be begging

 

“immediate ceasefire without preconditions” that was the call that was made by Obama, Kerry, the British and the French and almost all others

 

But that is the wrong policy to have when you are dealing with terrorists.

 

Was that the call that was made on the British against the IRA? Was that the call that was made on the Spanish against ETA?

 

NO IT WAS NOT! There was no such call made on the British and the French and they both used the most inhuman methods against those terrorists.

 

The British and the Americans went to WORLD war against Hitler. They went to war and the result was 60 millions of deaths, but there was no similar call made for immediate ceasefire.

 

Yet Israel is facing the worst Fascists on the planet, Hamas and the similar PA of Abbas are similar to ISIL. Abbas is in agreement with these Hamas Fascists.

 

So there has been a double standard applied to Israel because Israel is made up of Jews and Israel is the Jewish Homeland.

 

There is another link between Hamas, Fatah and the Nazis of Hitler. That is Antisemitism or Jew Hatred.

 

The answer: 4international is in agreement with those like the Martin Sherman Facebook Page, and with the member of Knesset Moshe Feiglin, on a programme which calls for Israel to take control of the situation by breaking up these Antisemites, starting first of all with Hamas in the Gaza.

 

We also think that Israel should make close alliance with all of those like the Kurds who are in deadly conflict with ISIL, and should make an alliance with Russia and the Crimea as well as the southern Russian Ukraine who are facing the Fascists in Northern Ukraine directed by Washington

 

The Hamas is not a “Palestinian Militant Group” as they were called on the BBC news bulletin this morning. That is misleading. They are Arab Fascists. Arab Fascists filled with Jew Hatred. The BBC cannot get it right because the BBC is also filled with Jew Hatred.

 

NEEDED A NEW BEGINNING FOR ISRAEL AND MARTIN SHERMAN DOES NOT PROVIDE IT

Leon Trotsky with Diego Rivero in the 30s

 

Martin Sherman makes vital points such as

 

“As a result, the political “Right” has found itself unable to respond effectively to the pointed and pertinent question from “left-wing” adversaries: “So what’s your alternative?” With no comprehensive countervailing paradigmatic position to promote or defend, the “Right” found itself gradually forced to give way under the weight of this onerous question, and to adopt increasing portions of the failed formula it had rejected.”

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Into-the-Fray-The-rout-of-the-Right-354837

 

The defence of Israel as the Jewish Homeland is also the war internationally against Islam, and it must also be the war against political elites in the world in general, especially a necessary war against the Vatican (bit not against the Christian or Catholic people who themselves are being betrayed by the Churches and the Vatican in their own struggle against Islam)

 

As if all that were not hard enough remember also that we live in a period of deepening crisis in the international capitalist system where the drive in the world is towards class dictatorship, morphing into Fascist states. The latter raises the issue, as it has always historically done, of growing Antisemitism. This Antisemitism has something new, a coalition of US Presidents, of anti-Marxist Fascistsm of Islam and all against Jews and Israel.

 

Sherman performs a useful role in pointing to the bankruptcy of “Right” as well as “Left” in Israel. He is aware that this absence of principled leadership poses the greatest dangers for Israel, for the Jews of Israel, as well as the Jews in the Diaspora, including in America who are losing their Jewishness, and are being absorbed into the forces of American Imperialism.

 

However Martin Sherman tries to fix the problem from within the Jewish ideology of Judaism (more or less) and he cannot go outside of the Jewish experience, towards Trotskyism.

 

Sherman with many others is correct in identifying the two factors, geographical and demographic, as being central issues.

 

Sherman proposes paying Arabs in Palestine who want to leave and create a future for themselves a notable grant which may well be appealing.

 

This however, ALTOUGH 4INTERNATIONAL DOES NOT OPPOSE IT, is a little bit of sidestepping of the issue.

 

The issue that needs to be hammered out inside the international movement including the international working class movement is:

 

  1. Israel is the Homeland of the Jewish people
  2. The issue raises the issue of nation, because the Jews have 4000 years of history as a nation, the longest in existence
  3. This issue of nation runs into conflict with the demands of international capitalism in crisis, and its need for dictatorial central control, wrongly called sometimes “NEW” World Order. Not New…Hitler attempted the same.
  4. The Palestinians are not a nation but a carefully manufactured concept of Antisemitism existing since roughly 1967. It is a meme becoming a law through repetition. That is the central thing that must be tackled head on.
  5. The issue of nation also runs into conflict with modern day anti-Marxists because although there was a tendency to dismiss Nation (for obvious reasons) by the time of Leon Trotsky in the 1930s, the main socialist revolutionary leader of the times there was a serious reversal by Leon Trotsky. Trotsky came to stand for Jewish nation and for Ukrainian nation (and Nationhoods)

 

 

These are issues that are far more important than paying these “Palestinians” to find a home elsewhere. That is a tactic that CAN be used but it is only a tactic. The concept of the Jewish Homeland and Nation must be advanced far more as a priority. I notice that Sherman was given support by a character called “Curious American” who advances the Palestinian Fascist cause continually. That is the danger.

 

4international is also opposed to all concepts of A B or C including the hundreds of variations as advanced often by that centrist Jew Ted Belman. 4international says to Belman state your ground and fight for it.

 

Lay down the basis. The International People laid down the law in the early 1920s. Jordan is the Jewish Homeland, and still is. Certainly is Golan, Gaza, and Judea and Samaria, as well as Israel as it is today. All that was stolen from the Jews by World Antisemitism. Sinai was won in rightful struggle.

 

That is the position of 4international. THAT is the position that the centrist Ted Belman could never hold.

 

Towards that position we hold and along the way we are prepared to advance tactically. We may accept temporary compromise but on principles never veer from.

 

Only a Trotskyist Party can advance both tactically and strategically, both concepts which are in a unity and conflict of opposites. The conflict between the two have to be kept inside of the unity.

 

We are in a new period. We do not want to be messing around with bank balances. We want to advance a revolutionary and a strategic programme.

 

A/ Only Jews live in Israel. All others, that is non-Jewish, are there by invitation, they are guests and if they understand that they are guest they can be honoured guests.

B/ Israel is what was laid down by the International Peoples in 1920 as outlined above

C/ The struggle against Fascism, Racism, Antisemitism today is meaningless if the above concept of Israel is not fought for. That is what distinguishes 4international as revolutionaries today, and as being against anti-Marxist leftist pro-Fascists…

NETANYAHU IS A TOTAL TRAITOR AND MUST BE FORCED TO WITHDRAW FROM TALKS

Netanyahu is a traitor to the Jews.

Absolutely totally it is not possible to have an agreement with the Palestinian Arabs because they are the Jihad. The name “Palestinians” equals Jihad!

It is in the nature of the Jihad to destroy Israel.

(See my other posts in recent days that Israeli leaders are ignoring the US and Fascist plans in Ukraine to destroy Russia. This post on Jihad is related not separate in any way)

The argument of Netanyahu and many others in the Israeli elite leaders is false to the core and is most dangerous indeed, involving millions of Jewish lives.

In its essentials Netanyahu is saying that these JIHADISTS called the “Palestinians” must recognize Israel.

That is a nonsense!

As is presented by Netanyahu on the eve of Merkel visiting Israel that is the most dangerous trap for Jews that Netanyahu is setting for the Jews.

It is written into the laws of the Koran and the Jihad that it is permissible to lie to the Kuffir.

So Netanyahu is placing the lives of millions of Jews on the line because he is disregarding this historical and contemporary truth.

It is a lie that the Jihadists, that is the Palestinian Arabs, can or ever will recognise Israel. Who is propagating the lie? Make no mistake at all it is Netanyahu and other traitors like Peres.

There is nothing at all to stop the Jihadists from SAYING that they recognise Israel. Indeed that is what Arafat did in the OSLO accords. Arafat said in English that of course he recognised Israel bla bla bla. Arafat said it hundreds of times, maybe thousands. But in Arab he said the opposite.

How are Jews today not absolutely clear on this issue!!!

 

Zahir Muhsein said this in 1977:

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

 

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

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The Israelis were mistaken ever to play along with this charade, but it may be too late to get back to reality on that. Netanyahu’s main point, however, is sound: the “Palestinians” won’t accept the existence of the State of Israel, so how can there be a negotiated settlement? Yet they can never accept the existence of Israel, because of the principle in Islamic theology that land governed at one time by Islamic law belongs by right to the Muslims forever. Barack Obama and John Kerry, of course, either don’t know or don’t care about that.

 

“‘I’m Ready To Accept Palestine, Why Not Israel?,’” by Ari Yashar for Israel National News, February 24:

 

 

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu spoke on Sunday night, emphasizing that the Palestinian Authority’s (PA) refusal to recognize Israel as the Jewish state is the fundamental factor preventing peace. “Recognition of the Jewish state is a necessary condition for peace,” remarked Netanyahu.

 

Speaking to a German television channel in advance of German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Israel visit on Monday, Netanyahu praised US Secretary of State John Kerry’s efforts to push through a peace deal between Israel and the PA.

 

“The only way to achieve peace is to express support for Kerry’s efforts,” claimed Netanyahu. “Together with the Palestinians, and at their head PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, we have to sit at the table and reach an agreement.”

 

“I’m ready to accept their existence in their country, why don’t they accept me?” asked Netanyahu, stressing that the refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state is a major roadblock to peace.

 

“The obstacle of the peace talks is this principle (of recognition), and not the issue of Israeli building in settlements that gets such wide criticism in the West,” argued Netanyahu. He further denied claims that construction is a key problem, saying it’s an issue that “will be solved in the talks’ framework.”

 

Last Friday, US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro declared the PA will be required to recognize Israel as a Jewish state in any framework agreement, a day after a PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization) official claimed Abbas was ready to recognize Israel.

 

Abbas’s PA has previously said the Arab states “will never recognize Israel,” and as noted has repeatedly refused to recognize Israel. On Sunday, Hamas lawmakers warned that recognition of Israel would be a “death sentence” for the PA.

 

Kerry’s has reportedly proposed that Israel would be forced to “earn” PA recognition as a Jewish state by obligating itself through guarantees that it will not compromise the status of Israeli Arabs.

That is from Jihadwatch and we support Robert Spencer on this. he makes essentially the SAME points as we on 4international.me. But when you look at the comments there you will find total confusión. Please read them. You will understand how deep is the crisis in Jewish leadership.

What is the answer. Naftali Bennett in the Hard Talk interview made one key point above all, and that is that the Jewish youth today and in general the Jews overall are opposed to the Netanyahu programme.

Please understand me and act now before it is too late.

There is needed urgently a new and a revolutionary party in Israel. Please do not read this and then do nothing. Enter into discussion…what is the way forward. DO NOT HOLD BACK

Do read those comments I mentioned on http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/netanyahu-im-ready-to-accept-palestine-but-they-wont-accept-israel

NETANYAHU RELIES ON EGYPT FOR SECURITY AND TABA BUS BOMB HAPPENS

Muslim Brotherhood terrorists exploded a bomb on a bus travelling through Sinai to cross the border with Israel at the Taba border crossing, which is a short distance from the city of Eilat at the southern tip of Israel.

 

This exposes once again the real bankruptcy of Israeli leaders and especially Netanyahu. These Israeli leaders cannot protect Jews from terrorists and they cannot protect visitors to Israel either, in this case Christians from South Korea. Sinai in both Judaism and Christianity is a holy place.

 

Netanyahu makes a big mistake in trusting the Egyptian Government to keep order against Islamists in Sinai. This trust is linked to the fact that the Israeli leaders are still “lorrying” into Gaza huge amounts of food etc. paid for by Jews. What a farce.

 

Netanyahu also is betraying Jews and the army which opposed the Fascist Flotilla. He is going along like a baby with Obama who insists that Israel apologise and pays a huge sum of money to the arch Antisemite Erdogan of Turkey. What a betrayal.

 

Meanwhile Netanyahu is up to his eyeballs in the plans of Obama and Kerry to drive a stake into the heart of Israel through creating a Palestinian state.

 

Martin Sherman has pointed out continually the bankruptcy of these Israeli Jewish leaders. These leaders (as the Sinai bombing yesterday shows) cannot protect Jews.

 

The crisis in this Israeli Jewish leaders is widespread and is deep.

 

The hypocrite Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch claims to stand for free speech but bans my comments on Jihadwatch.

 

The confused Pamela Geller entertains Antisemites in her comment section

 

The blog run now by Ted Belman entertains as a main commenter on his blog Israpundit an open Fascist. Belman is a weak man and a foolish one at that.

 

Belman cannot defend Israel because he keeps a Fascist on his site who continually attacks Christians.

 

Think of the damage this bus bombing has caused to many people, Christians, in Southern Korea.

 

The security at the Taba crossing by Israel was the worst possible. They were relying on Egypt to look after security.

 

There needs to be new leadership, a Trotskyist leadership.

 

All these who attack Trotsky and Trotskyism we will answer. The Jewish movement has to clear its ranks of such Fascists, mostly inspired by US Imperialism.

 

The immediate consequence of the Taba bombing of the Korean Christian people on that bus means one thing above all.

 

Israel is being cornered by 1. World Antisemites and 2. Jewish traitors to Israel like I have outlined above.

 

There needs to be a revolutionary government in Israel. Israel must take control of Sinai and be prepared to fight a war to do so.

 

Gaza must immediately be taken under Israeli control and the Hamas Party broken up totally. Let the sponsors of Hamas which is the Obama Government take them all to America

THE WHOLE OF THE ISRAELI RULING CLASS ARE TRAITORS TO THE JEWS…OUR ANSWER TO MARTIN SHERMAN

Gaza Betrayal by Jewish leaders

TED BELMAN OF ISRAPUNDIT TAKES CENTRIST POSITION ON NETANYAHU

The issue was really over the nature of the whole Israeli ruling class, whatever they may be called. The disagreement between Ted Belman editor of Israpundit and Francisco Gil White was about that.

Gil White had called Netanyahu a traitor. I agreed with him but I go much further because I call the whole of the Israeli leaders right across the board traitors. Big difference. But let us not stray. How did Belman react to Gil White? It is most instructive to see what Belman wrore:

I disagree with Gil-White’s conclusion.  Everyone involved with Oslo from the start knew of the Nazi connection and chose to ignore it.  I don’t see continuing it as treason but as stupidity or naivete.  Ted Belman

 

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/63591148

 

A strange response by Ted Belman

 

USEFUL ANALOGY

A similar situation is that your friend is being conned by a conman out of his life savings and you sitting there beside your friend while this is going on know he is a conman, but your friend does not, and you say nothing. If you do that you are not a friend, not naive, not stupid, but you are a traitor to your friend

 

The same applies with all these political leaders in Israel. Call them right call them left, whatever (AND if you do that just shows your political and historical ignorance)

 

MORE ON THE CONMAN ANALOGY

The Jews are being continually conned here by the US Government. They were conned over OSLO, conned over the Gaza withdrawal, conned by Churchill over Jordan, conned by the UN in 1948.

 

But on this score the US Government would not have been able to con the Jews if it had not been for the Jewish leadership in Israel.

 

The Likud leadership knew exactly what Sharon was doing in 2005 and yet the Likud leaders refused to act against Sharon. There was lots of time and the very first thing the Likud leaders should have done was expel the TRAITOR.  (To add to my argument who emerged as the greatest traitors of the Jews during the Gaza removal? It was the rabbis and the Settlers leaders!)

 

While all this was going on Netanyahu was there but he basically was lying low, and he only put up a bit of a show at the very end, when it was too late, and moreover he knew it was too late. How do you characterise this kind of behaviour, naïve!!! No traitors to the Jews. All human activity is conscious.

SO WHY DID BELMAN CALL NETANYAHU NAIVE?

 

SHERMAN ALSO THINKS THEY ARE “NAIVE”

SHERMAN HAS ILLUSIONS IN ISRAEL POLITICIANS

Note that these are what is called the right

  1. Netanyahu made his name as a right politician
  2. Likud to a man and woman is opposed to socialism

Now since this is about Martin Sherman what about him? Well Sherman looks at the situation in Israel and does 2 things

 

  1. Sherman like Belman thinks that the Likud and Right are also naive
  2. While he sees the right as naive only Sherman then confuses the issue totally by referring to what he calls the “left” thus echoing the confusers supreme on this score Geller and Spencer.

Those therefore are two big problems about Sherman.

BUT SHERMAN IS BETTER THAN THE TOTAL CONFUSIONIST CAROLINE GLICK

In his article Sherman makes this reference to Glick:

Regrettably, however, most of these are poorly thought through, and even if implemented, would leave Israel, as the nation-state of the Jewish people, in a situation hardly less beleaguered – diplomatically, politically and physically – than if it adopted the perilous prescription of the Left.

Typically, these alternative proposals fall into three broad categories. (a) Those that would leave Israel with a massive enfranchised Muslim minority (up to 40%) within its frontiers, critically undermining the ability to maintain the dominant Jewish character of the state, whatever the initial electoral arithmetic; (b) those that would leave Israel with excessively long and torturous frontiers, impossible to delineate (other than on a map) and to secure; and (c) those that entail both (a) and (b).

Most of these alternative proposals draw on optimistic (but not necessarily unrealistic) demographic assumptions as to the growth of the Arab population, but pay little heed to the negative effect the proposals might have on the Jewish population, were they to be implemented.

Lamentably, by insisting on blatantly flawed and clearly counter-productive political paradigms as proffered alternatives to the Left’s prescription of appeasement and accommodation, the authors of these proposals and their supporters only bolster the false perception that the latter is the only game in town

In the above Sherman is attacking Caroline Glick. You would hardly know but he is.

That is the good thing about Sherman…he is clear that the Glick proposals are the proposals of somebody who is betraying the Jews. Yes to leave 40 per cent of Muslims inside her Israel, that is a Glick betrayal right there and Sherman calls her on this betrayal.

At least Sherman is clear on the betrayal of Glick.

But there is no way forward at all with Sherman. Jews need a new leadership.

BENNETT AND LIKUD MUST FORCE A NEW ELECTION TO DESTROY OBAMA/KERRY

Everything depends on Jews in Israel bringing down the Netanyahu Coalition and the creation of a new salvation Government which will oppose Obama and his Kerry interference in the affairs of the Jews.

 

John Kerry official Secretary of State portrait.jpg

 

Two people or two sets of people must now act decisively.

 

They are:

 

  1. Likud MPs who must expel Netanyahu from their party and who must call for new elections on the basis of that expulsion by carrying a patriotic Jewish message in the form of programme to the whole Jewish people, not just in the settlements but in all of Israel and even into the Diaspora
  2. MK Bennett who must withdraw or be forced to withdraw from the Coalition thus bringing down Netanyahu

 

There are also religious parties but they rarely act with independence. They would follow these two major blocs though

 

This is really a key moment in time. Very often history is concentrated on the actions of small numbers of people.

 

I am a Marxist and a Trotskyist and thus I spend much time researching what happened in October 1917. Leon Trotsky wrote about this and people like Swain/Thatcher/Service have zeroed in to try to falsify this very issue. Trotsky maintained that without the individual Lenin there would have been no revolution because lenin turned the Bolshevik Party around from April onwards. Also he thought that he Trotsky could never have done this. He also speculated that without himself Lenin may not have actually succeeded. Thus without individuals in history acting the moments of time are often lost forever.

 

Okay Jews at least not all think too much about 1917! But they can think about 2005!

 

Then there was a clear window of opportunity. Sharon was part of Likud. Sharon held a referendum in the party about Gaza. The Likud opposed Sharon’s plans for withdrawal. Sharon then having called the referendum arrogantly disregraded its democratic decisión.

 

THAT was the decisive moment and it was a only a moment

 

All such events are always pressed into one single moment in time. That was the time for big advance in Israel. Likud had to expel Sharon at that very time. They missed that time.

 

Having missed that time then they were on the back foot. Such leaders as in Likud are not trained to take such action in a certain time, always times of stress. Will Bennett?

 

That is what I mean by leadership and that is why my posts on sites like Israpundit and Jihadwatch are so often destroyed. To get such a leadership leads us into a new situation, a new set of life experiences that certain people just will not go into.

 

If Bennett does not withdraw NOW at this very time…

 

If Likud does not expel Netanyahu…

 

If those things do not actually and really happen then there will be consequences and I think they will be severe (when I look on Syria)

 

Just remember the US Empire cannot accept Independent Jews on this earth.

 

We are on a knife edge. Actually things are so full of possibility for Jews, for Israel, and for all of us who are tired of the old order of the killing of our dear animals and the killing of the human spirit in so many ways, unemployment among youth being the most deadly.

 

If Likud and Bennett act independently and decisively this will take the ground from beneath both Obama and Kerry. The EU will also be floored. People in Ukraine may look up. Certainly the people of America will look up and will adore the Jews of Israel as never before. DO IT!

KERRY IS A FIEND AGAINST THE JEWS AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED INTO ISRAEL

Aaron Klein is a very good reporter of Jewish affairs. This is a very good article which explains to the readers of www.4international.me some of the terrible things that Kerry and the US are doing against Jews and against Israel.

 

But the article, unlike a recent article by the very political savvy Martin Sherman leaves out a major element, that is the very poor leadership of the Jews of Israel itself.

 

Why are there not millions of Jews out on the streets demanding that Kerry is kept out of Israel, and opposing the smiling and ambitious (for himself) Netanyahu meeting with this fiend against the Jews?

 

The reason is leadership. Read it first. See our note at the end.

FLIP FLOP: KERRY CAVES TO ARAB PRESSURE. Considering demanding final status deal on all issues

Posted on December 27, 2013 at 1:04 AM EST

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By Aaron Klein

The Israeli government may have been elated Secretary of State John Kerry’s bid to create a Palestinian state recently saw the U.S. drop several demands of the Jewish state, as KleinOnline reported yesterday.

However, the change of heart might have been short lived. Palestinian Authority diplomatic sources directly involved in the talks told KleinOnline yesterday that Kerry is now having second thoughts about a key shift in his plans and he may switch back to the Palestinian position.

Until recent weeks, Kerry has been steadfast in the U.S. refusal to accept anything less than a final status agreement on the main issues, repeatedly rejecting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s request for an interim, multi-staged deal.

Yesterday, KleinOnline quoted informed Israeli and Palestinian diplomatic sources saying the U.S. had acquiesced to Netanyahu’s concept of an interim agreement of stages over a period of 10 years.

Now PA sources say that Kerry told PA President Mahmoud Abbas the U.S. will consider once again demanding a final deal on all issues – Jerusalem, so-called refugees, the West Bank, Jordan Valley and other areas.

The sources said Kerry will discuss the possibility of a final status deal in his upcoming visit.

The flip-flop came after Abbas threatened to lobby Europe and the Arab League to oppose the latest U.S. position on an interim agreement, the sources said.

Regardless of whether there is an interim or final status deal, some major U.S. demands remain in place. One of those demands is for Israel to relinquish its civilian neighborhoods in the strategic Jordan Valley.

The Jordan Valley cuts through the heart of Israel. It runs from the Tiberias River in the north to the Dead Sea in the center to the city of Aqaba at the south of the country, stretching through the biblical Arabah desert.

Wednesday, Israel’s Army Radio reported Kerry drafted a plan that would see all of Israel’s Jordan Valley civilian settlements dismantled. That detail was first exclusively reported by KleinOnline this past October.

Meanwhile, on Jerusalem, Kerry is asking for the international community to administer the holy sites in the eastern section of the city, while details are still being discussed about whether Palestinians will have some symbolic presence in the area.

KleinOnline first reported earlier this month on Kerry’s plan calling for an international administrative mandate to control holy sites in eastern Jerusalem.

The exact composition of the international mandate is up for discussion, but Kerry’s plan recommended a coalition that includes the Vatican, together with a group of Muslim countries such as Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

The international arrangement is being proposed as a temporary solution for about two to three years while security arrangements in Jerusalem between Israelis and Palestinians are finalized, said Israeli and Palestinian diplomatic sources.

– See more at: http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2013/12/27/flip-flop-kerry-caves-to-arab-pressure-considering-demanding-final-status-deal-on-all-issues/#sthash.BszplzA9.dpuf

 

The great hopes of setting up their own Jewish Homeland in 1948 have been destroyed by really weak and downright bad leaders in Israel, many of whom have become rich, and have formed an elite. As well as becoming rich they do not defend Jews from the Jihad. The “Palestinians” (which 4international always call the “Palestinian Arabs”) is another name for the Jihad. This same Jihad is murdering Christian poor Blacks in Nigeria without Pope Francis raising a murmur. In Israel there is no exception to betrayal. There is not one leader, not one, who the Jews can pick to fight against the Jihad

NEED FOR OPEN AND FAIR DISCUSSION TO FIGHT AGAINST ANTISEMITISM

The discussion on the very important Israpundit site has been hijacked by a clique surrounding a person calling himself Yamit82, also involved is a person calling himself Bernard Ross and there are others, all forming an obvious clique.

 

This is indeed sad because there is need for open and fair discussion at this time.

 

The editor Ted Belman is clearly not in agreement with this clique. Belman performs a very useful service by airing a wide range of topics on Israpundit but discussion has now become arguably impossible.

 

You can see this clearly on http://www.israpundit.com/archives/63592654/comment-page-1#comments

 

Anyway I wanted to make that clear to our readers on http://www.4international.me

 

I wanted to send all our support to Ted Belman and Israpundit. We have the same aim which is for Jews to be able to live unmolested by Antisemitism.

 

One of the strange themes that this clique on Israpundit developed in recent years (which was pushed especially by Robinson) was that the Arab Spring and all the in-fighting among Arabs actually, he said, strengthened Israel.

 

Robinson kept on at this week after week.

 

This also led to a strengthening of the Yamit82 person who called for Israel to take up no position on Egypt, that is not to defend Mubarak, leading on to not supporting General el-Sisi in his present suppression of the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

We on 4international thought all of this most strange. Why should Israel not state openly its open and bold support for the suppression of the Muslim Brotherhood, and do so from a position of INDEPENDENCE!

 

How could Israel being encircled by Fascist Muslim Brotherhood states not weaken Israel, endanger Israel!

 

In fact read any article on Jihadwatch or on Pamela Geller´s Atlas Shrugs and you will see the opposite to Robinson…they are most worried for Israel.

 

As just today this on Pamela Geller´s Atlas Shrugs shows that she is most worried!

 

 

 

 

And the war in Syria spreads to Lebanon. Soon it will engulf the whole Middle East.

Nabil Mounzer / EPA

“Ex-ambassador to US killed in Lebanon bomb blast; four others slain,” NBC News, December 27, 2013

A car bombing in the Lebanese capital Friday targeted a key opponent to Syrian President Bashar Assad. NBC’s Ayman Mohyeldin reports. By Mustafa Kassem and Alastair Jamieson, NBC News

OBAMA AND EUROPE PLAN TO TAKE JERUSALEM FROM THE JEWS

John Kerry

John Kerry (Photo credit: Talk Radio News Service)

If you are a regular reader of www. 4international.me then have you got this book on your bookshelf and if not if possible get the download version from Amazon (The Vatican Against Israel J’accuse) autor Giullio Meotti

 

The news from Aaron Klein whose information is usually fact based is that this Antisemite Barack Obama and Kerry are trying to take Jerusalem from Israel and place it under the control of an International body, basically the United Nations, which calls Israel a racist state.

 

Sometimes the news of this growing Antisemitsm is just too unbearable.

 

This was the lesson of Hitler and the Nazis. The forces of Antisemitism and of Fascism thrive on one thing above all others. That is the degree to which their victims do not fight back.

 

The Nazis were in their element because the Jews did not have their own country to use as a base to fight back from.

 

Also the Nazis were supreme because the working class had been betrayed in 1933 by the action of the Social Democracy (Labourism…think Tony Blair or Zapatero here) and also by the deadly action of Stalinism on the working class movement.

 

Add into that the reality that Judaism is a very old and respected religion of mankind and is not nor could it be a method to fight against Fascism, which is a modern phenomenon.

 

RESULT…the Jews were leaderless and therefore relatively helpless.

 

Bring that into the present the Jews do have a country Israel.

 

But But But the same conditions exist. The Jews are again leaderless.

 

ACTION TO TAKE

 

First step is that the Jews must withdraw from the talks with the Arab Palestinians

 

Second step is that Israel must take concrete steps to make itself safe against Iran and others…that is self-defence no matter what self-defence takes

 

Third step is to recruit into www.4international.me because if you agree with the above then leadership is important above all other things.

 

 

U.S. PLAN GIVES JERUSALEM HOLY SITES TO VATICAN. International mandate to control sections of Israel’s capital Posted on December 15, 2013 at 6:55 PM

 

                                

 

By Aaron Klein

 

 

Secretary of State John Kerry quietly presented a U.S. plan for eastern Jerusalem that calls for an international administrative mandate to control holy sites in the area, according to informed Palestinian and Israeli diplomatic sources. The exact composition of the international mandate is up for discussion, the sources said, but Kerry’s plan recommended a coalition that includes the Vatican, together with a group of Muslim countries such as Turkey and Saudi Arabia. The international arrangement is being proposed as a temporary solution for about two to three years while security arrangements in Jerusalem between Israelis and Palestinians are finalized, said the sources. Israel, the sources said, was not receptive to the particulars of Kerry’s plan, especially the concept of Turkish participation in Jerusalem. Kerry told the Israelis he would hold talks with the Kingdom of Jordan about it playing a leading role in the proposal in the place of Turkey, the sources added. Kerry was in Jerusalem on Friday as part of an Obama administration effort to reach a deal for a Palestinian state by April, a timeline that is still on track, Kerry told reporters. “We are working on an approach that both guarantees Israel’s security and fully respects Palestinian sovereignty,” Kerry added. According to the Israeli and Palestinian diplomatic sources speaking to KleinOnline, Kerry’s trip this time around focused specifically on the particulars of security arrangements for the strategic Jordan Valley following a deal. In October, KleinOnline exclusively reported Kerry was strongly urging Israel to give up the Jordan Valley in closed-door talks with the Palestinian Authority. The current round of U.S.-brokered talks is attempting to hash out the details of a plan for the valley. The Jordan Valley cuts through the heart of Israel. It runs from the Tiberias River in the north to the Dead Sea in the center to the city of Aqaba at the south of the country, stretching through the biblical Arabah desert. The U.S. proposal calls for international forces to maintain security control along with unarmed Palestinian police forces, a senior Palestinian Authority negotiator told KleinOnline in October. Israel will retain security posts in some strategic areas of the Jordan Valley, according to the U.S. plan. Previous talks incorporated an element of Jordanian authority in the Jordan Valley, but the Kingdom of Jordan is wary of participating in a future Palestinian state, the negotiator said. The Palestinian negotiator pointed to the insurgency in Syria and changes of leadership in Egypt as reasons for Jordanian reluctance to assume any security control over Palestinian areas. – See more at: http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2013/12/15/u-s-plan-gives-jerusalem-holy-sites-to-vatican-international-mandate-to-control-sections-of-israels-capital/#sthash.SUlcarLp.dpuf

OBAMA IS TELLING BARE FACED LIES TO THE ISRAELIS OVER IRAN BOMB

The lies of Obama over Iran are now legendary. This President of the US is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. There can be no other logical explanation.

 

 

Aaron Klein recent article must be read by all

 

 

OBAMA LIES TO ISRAELIS ON IRAN NUKE DEAL. Falsely claims agreement nixes Tehran’s uranium enrichment

Posted on December 9, 2013 at 2:23 AM EST

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By Aaron Klein

In an address broadcast live to Israel Sunday, President Obama falsely claimed the West’s nuclear deal with Tehran takes Iran’s uranium enrichment down to zero from its current 20 percent.

Obama made the false claim twice even though the text of the deal caps Iran’s uranium enrichment at 5 percent, a figure that could constantly leave the country two months away from the technical ability to build a nuke.

Obama was hosted for a forty-minute question-and-answer session at the annual Saban Forum at the Brookings Institute in Washington, D.C. The session was broadcast live on Israel’s Channel 2, the country’s largest television station.

Regarding the nuclear deal, Obama stated: “We have not only made sure that in Fordor and Natanz that they have to stop adding additional centrifuges, we’ve also said that they’ve got to roll back their 20 percent advanced enrichment.  So we’re … ”

Host Chaim Saban interrupted and asked, “To how much?”

Saban was asking about the percentage Iran would be required to roll back its enrichment.

“Down to zero,” Obama stated. “So you remember when Prime Minister Netanyahu made his presentation before the United Nations last year?”

“The cartoon with the red line?” asked Saban.

Continued Obama: “The picture of a bomb – he was referring to 20 percent enrichment, which the concern was if you get too much of that, you now have sufficient capacity to go ahead and create a nuclear weapon. We’re taking that down to zero.”

In actuality, the six-month renewable interim deal requires Iran to cap its uranium enrichment at 5 percent. Iranian diplomats have repeatedly stated they will not give up the right to enrich uranium in any final deal.

Later on in his speech, Obama contradicted himself and conceded Iran would likely retain an enrichment capability in a final deal.

He said: “We can envision an end state that gives us an assurance that even if they have some modest enrichment capability, it is so constrained and the inspections are so intrusive that they, as a practical matter, do not have breakout capacity.

“Theoretically they might still have some [breakout capacity]. But frankly, theoretically, they will always have some because, as I said, the technology here is available to any good physics student.”

In an e-mail to KleinOnline, Olli Heinonen, the former International Atomic Energy Agency inspector, explained how the 5 percent enrichment leaves Tehran perpetually just two months away from enriching enough uranium to assemble one nuclear weapon.

“Let us look at the current the facts on the ground. With Iran’s inventory of 20 percent enriched uranium, it would take about two weeks using 6000 IR-1 centrifuges, operating in tandem cascades, to produce enough weapons grade material for one nuclear device. If Iran uses three to five percent enriched uranium as feed material at all its currently installed 18,000 IR-1 centrifuges at Natanz and Fordow, the same result would be achieved in two months.

“The current agreement retains Iran’s fleet of more than 18000 IR-1 centrifuges. Operational restrictions are placed that allow 10,000 centrifuges to continue to enrich at up to 5 percent at any given point of time. These measures, together with a cessation of 20 percent enriched uranium production and conversion of the 20 percent-level stockpiles to oxides, extend the current breakout times to about two months.”

Meanwhile, in the session Sunday, Obama claimed the deal only opens the Iranian economy to a maximum of $7 billion in sanctions relief.

Stated Obama: “What we’ve done is we’ve turned the spigot slightly and we’ve said, here’s maximum $7 billion out of the over $100 billion of revenue of theirs that is frozen as a consequence of our sanctions, to give us the time and the space to test whether they can move in a direction, a comprehensive, permanent agreement that would give us all assurances that they’re not producing nuclear weapons.”

However, KleinOnline reported under the interim deal Tehran’s economy could be flooded with untold billions in sanctions relief and other gains, far more than the widely reported amount of $6 to $7 billion.

A careful reading of the agreement, posted on the EU’s website, finds numerous open-ended statements about sanctions relief.

If Iran keeps its side of the bargain, the deal allows an increase in European Union “authorisation thresholds for transactions for non-sanctioned trade to an agreed amount.” No amount for the thresholds are provided in the text of the deal.

The agreement states the U.S. and EU will “enable the repatriation of an agreed amount of revenue held abroad.” No specific amount is delineated in the deal.

In one clause that could potentially free untold billions, the deal establishes a “financial channel to facilitate humanitarian trade for Iran’s domestic needs using Iranian oil revenues held abroad.” No cap is provided for the amount of revenue that could be made available.

An open-ended footnote states the “humanitarian” trade financial channel “would involve specified foreign banks and non-designated Iranian banks to be defined when establishing the channel.”

More sanctions relief spelled out in the text of the deal includes a Western agreement to:

  • Pause efforts to further reduce Iran’s crude oil sales, enabling Iran’s current customers to purchase their current average amounts of crude oil. For such oil sales, it suspends the EU and U.S. sanctions on associated insurance and transportation services.
  • Suspend U.S. and EU sanctions on Iran’s petrochemical exports, as well as sanctions on associated services, gold and precious metals.
  • Suspend U.S. sanctions on Iran’s auto industry, as well as sanctions on associated services.
  • License the supply and installation in Iran of spare parts for safety of flight for Iranian civil aviation and associated services.
  • License safety related inspections and repairs in Iran as well as associated services.
  • Not impose new nuclear-related U.N. Security Council sanctions.
  • Not impose new EU nuclear-related sanctions.
  • In the case of the U.S. administration, acting consistently with the respective roles of the president and the Congress, refrain from imposing new nuclear-related sanctions.

– See more at: http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2013/12/09/obama-lies-to-israelis-on-iran-nuke-deal-falsely-claims-agreement-nixes-tehrans-uranium-enrichment/#sthash.XTbbjcGS.dpuf

CALL BY GEERT WILDERS TO POPE FRANCIS FOR UNITY BETWEEN CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AGAINST ISLAMIC JIHAD

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Alle lijsttrekkers nemen plaats aan tafel bij het slotdebat van de tweede kamer verkiezingen in 2006. Opdrachtgever: VVD (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

4international endorses this call by Geert Wilders. The basic position of Wilders is to support and defend Israel unconditionally against the Jihad against Jews. It is this position which we support. It correctly identifies Israel as fighting against the Islamic Jihad against the Jews in the state of Israel.

This position of ours, to defend Israel against the Palestinian Arabs, which is another name for Islamic Jihad against the Jews, makes our movement 4international alone on the left.

In this there is much work to be done because the Western Antisemites, many of whom are in fake socialist movements, but not solely so, have advanced their lies by leaps and bounds in the absence of a correct strategic propagandistic campaign by the Israeli Governments down through the years.

In fact, very often we are finding, that Jews internationally are leading in the slandering of Israel, the latest being the campaign over the Bedouins in the Negev.

Having endorsed Geert Wilders above, it is important to stress that we on 4international think that Wilders is too easy on the Vatican in general, because the Antisemitic history of the Vatican must be brought to the fore, including the campaigning of recent Pope John Paul!

In this regard 4 international will be stressing the urgent need to read the recently published book “the Vatican against Israel, J’accuse” by Giulio Meotti (available on Kindle)

Nobody ever said this was easy. The situation is even more complex than Wilders suggests.

BEGIN GEERT WILDERS LETTER

The following open letter to Pope Francis was written today by Geert Wilders, the leader of the PVV (Partij voor de Vrijheid, Party for Freedom) in the Netherlands.

 

 

Open letter to his Holiness Pope Francis

Your Holiness,

In your recent exhortation Evangelii Gaudium (Paragraphs 247-248) you draw the world’s attention to the indebtedness of Christianity to the Jews and their faith. The exhortation also contains a sharp condemnation of the terrible persecutions which the Jews have endured from Christians in the past.

Your words are words which might inspire many.

Unfortunately, they are in sharp contrast to the expressions of hatred which were voiced last October by the spiritual leader of Sunni Islam, Ahmad Al-Tayeb, the Grand Imam of the Al-Azhar Institute in Cairo.

During an interview, aired on Egyptian television on October 25, Grand Imam Ahmad Al-Tayeb reaffirmed the relevance of Koranic verse 5:82, which states that of all people the Christians are closest to the Muslims, while the Jews are strongest in enmity towards them. This verse has inspired centuries of Islamic hatred of Jews.

Al-Tayeb’s invocation of Koranic Jew-hatred is in line with fourteen centuries of Islamic teaching. Grand Imam Al-Tayeb’s predecessor at Al-Azhar, Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, even wrote a book, entitled The Children of Israel in the Koran and the Sunna, in defense of Jew-hatred based on Koranic teachings.

The current suffering of Christians from Islamic persecution in Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Indonesia, and so many other countries, clearly indicates what Christians have to endure from the followers of the Koran. What atheists and Jews, who are considered the worst enemies, have to endure from Islam is even worse.

In your exhortation Evangelii Gaudium (paragraphs 252-253) you state that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.”

Reality does not confirm this statement.

The Koran is full of bellicose and hate-mongering verses against non-Muslims. Your Holiness will be able to find them if he reads the Koran, but I will name just a few:

 

 2:191-193: “And slay them wherever you come upon them, […] Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s.”  4:89: “If they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.”  5:33: “This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, […]: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land.”  8:60: “Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to terrify thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy.”  9:5: “When the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush.”  9:29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah.”  9:30: “The Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them.”  9:123: “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”  47:4: “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.”

I hope that the Holy Father will help us defend the West’s Judeo-Christian and humanistic civilization, to which even atheists and agnostics owe their freedom and democracy.

Nothing will be gained by a refusal to face reality.

We must speak the truth about Islam — the largest threat to mankind in this present age.

Very respectfully, Geert Wilders

Member of the Dutch Parliament Leader of the Party for Freedom (PVV)

IRAN IS A NUCLEAR THRESHOLD STATE SAYS TOP CIA MAN…can build several nuclear bombs in a matter of weeks

English: B57 nuclear bomb.

English: B57 nuclear bomb. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

DEBKAfile Special Report December 2, 2013,

Binyamin Netanyahu's nuclear depiction caricatured

Binyamin Netanyahu’s nuclear depiction caricatured

The former heads of two of the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world, speaking Sunday, Dec. 1, in different parts of the world, were of the same opinion: Iran has reached the point of a nuclear threshold state and can build several nuclear bombs in a matter of weeks. By this diagnosis, Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and NSA, and ex-general Amos Yadlin, ex-chief of AMAN, Israeli military intelligence indicted their respective governments of the US and Israeli for their failure to stop this happening.

Asked in a FoxNews interview in New York about the interim accord the six powers reached with Iran in Geneva, Gen. Hayden was terse: “Iran is a nuclear threshold nation and we can’t stop this,” he said. America has moved its red lines and “all but conceded Iran has the right to enrich uranium.” He went on to voice the hope that “We have hit the pause button. Now we’ve got to negotiate hitting the delete button.”

HAYDEN HAS SPELLED IT OUT HERE. IRAN AS FAR AS OBAMA AND CAMERON/HAGUE IS CONCERNED HAS THE NUCLEAR BOMB. THE TALKS AND THE “DEAL” ARE A FARCE AND A LIE.  PLEASE NOTE AT THE  END HAYDEN IS LYING BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIT NO PAUSE BUTTON AT ALL…SEE OUR PREVIOUS ARTICLE BASED ON WORK OF AARON KLEIN…http://4international.me/2013/12/03/top-un-official-warns-of-iran-bomb-heinonen-the-iaeas-deputy-director-general-for-safeguards-until-2010/

Yadlin, who heads a national security think tank, had this to say: “Iran is approaching breakout point to a nuclear bomb.” On the Geneva accord, he commented: “… this is only a first step, not a final agreement, although it contains elements which predetermine the final accord.”

A STEP BEFORE BREAKOUT…UNFORTUNATE BUT TRUE

Speaking in Tel Aviv, Yadlin said: “The fact that Iran is a nuclear threshold state is not the fault of this agreement. Iran spent many years developing this capability and no one managed to stop it. Iran is a step before breakout to a bomb. This is unfortunate but true.”

It was the first time that a former high-ranking Israeli intelligence officer had admitted the responsibility of successive Israeli governments, defense ministers and heads of its various intelligence agencies for the failure to pre-empt Iran’s drive for a nuclear weapon.

MK Tzahi Hanegbi , a senior lawmaker who has the ear of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, expressed concern that the interim deal with Iran would be left standing as the final accord, and so leave the Islamic Republic in place as a nuclear threshold state with the capability to assemble a bomb within six to seven weeks.
NETANYAHU UMPTEENTH TIME

In Rome, Netanyahu was heard to say for the umpteenth time that Israel would not allow Iran to attain a nuclear bomb. He seemed to have forgotten the diagram he exhibited to the UN General Assembly in September 2012 accompanied by a resounding pledge not to let Iran accumulate enough enriched uranium for a weapon.

Hanegbi, in his comments Sunday, put the record straight: Iran has built a uranium stockpile of 7.2 tons, enough for several bombs.”

Former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, after criticizing his successor for daring to argue with US President Obama, was of the opinion that Israel would not attack Iran’s nuclear facilities. He was saying that Israel has decided to accept a nuclear-armed Iran

OUR OWN ANALYSIS 4INTERNATIONAL

It is all here in this article. As people go about their Christmas shopping 2013 the world is plunging into Nuclear abyss.

Obama, Cameron and Hague knew all of this. The “deal” in Geneva is a big lie. Set up by Obama to get him out of sanctions asCongress was planning to step them up against Iran.

These 3 politicians have rescued Iran, and made it now easy for Iran to get the Nuclear Bomb. We on 4international alone on the left said that Iran would use it to reorganise and to gather their strength for the final push.

What is at the base of this? Many things indeed, especially the economic and political crisis in the capitalist system, but underpinning this in all spheres of daily human living is Antisemitism.

Capitalism as a system of organising and living is VERY dangerous to humanity.

The Jews as ever are in the greatest and most immediate danger.

See the debka article and comments which are sometimes useful on http://www.israpundit.com/archives/63592047

IRAN DEAL IS THE GREATEST NAZI TYPE LIE EVER

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English: Flag of Israel with the Mediterranean sea in the background, in Rishon LeZion. עברית: דגל ישראל בראשון לציון (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The Iran deal is the greatest lie ever. Many people do realiZe this. But there are also many profesional liars, especially among the Media.

 

The issue is a question of power. The ruling capitalist class led by Obama and Cameron have the power in THEIR hands and they control the Media.

 

It is a repeat of the campaigh against the Serbs and Milosevic in the 1990s. That campaign has always been the benchmark.

 

They are all trying suddenly to make Iran into the moderates, and to make Netanyahu in to the “extremists”…in a programme on Tuesday on Talk Radio Europe the ex ABC journalist Nathan Thomas was playing this line of Netanyahu as bully

 

Yet the information is all there for people to study. Yes Ahmadinejad was straight out of Mein Kamph.

 

And above all it was not one call to destroy Israel but thousands from the Iranian regime, just like Hitler and the Nazis. Follow simply the link below this.

 

August 17, 2012

“The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumor. Even if the Zionists remain on one span (more like inch) of the Land of Palestine is dangerous, because they will come to have a legal and official government.”

http://archive.adl.org/main_International_Affairs/ahmadinejad_words.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_2

 

That is just ONE. There are thousands more.

 

Even during last week the Iranian Supreme Leader referred to Israel as a rabid dog.

 

The French did object to this, but not Hague, not Cameron, not Obama

 

Look carefully at the position of the fake Trotskyist wsws.org which is a Left Antisemitic Fascist-type organization

 

Its latest article contains the following paragraph and NO reference to the Iranian Nuclear Bomb directed against Israel…that is the key point…that is Antisemitism in action by the wsws.org

 

START WSWS QUOTE HERE

On Tuesday, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said Iran would welcome an invitation to the so-called Geneva II conference on Syria. “Iran is ready to utilize all its political capacity and power, along with other regional countries to help resolve the Syrian crisis,” he said.

THE DEAL WITH IRAN WILL CAUSE NUCLEAR WAR AND THE DEATH OF MILLIONS

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ayatullah khamenei (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Last night in the small hours of the morning the BBC interrupted its broadcasts with reports that a deal was signed with Nuclear Iran.

The BBC has not been reporting anything about this issue in recent days and weeks. Suddenly it does report it. Why the change?

 

The reason is that the BBC is part of a real conspiracy. The BBC wants a deal with Iran, a deal above all else, even if that deal is the same as the deal that Chamberlain made in 1938 with Hitler.

 

Why does the BBC act in this way? It acts like this because the BBC is pro-Iran and pro-Islam.

 

Thus we must ask a further question: Why is the BBC pro-Islam? The reason for this is that the BBC fears the breaking up of capitalism and a potential socialist revolution. The BBC thus has as its allies Fascist Islam.

 

Once again the BBC allies itself with Iran because the BBC is afraid of the socialist revolution in Britain.

 

Often in life to get at the REAL truth you have to focus on the REAL reason. The most important thing about Europe today is that Europe cannot solve the unemployment issue, and even as billions are being made on stocks and shares, the majority of people are becoming impoverished by the crisis.

 

Israel today faces a major crisis. Their people from now on are in more and more danger…that is for sure.

 

Just a few days ago the Iran negotiators on this deal uttered the most foul language it is posible to utter against Israel, meaning against Jews.

 

France did object, but Obama and Cameron did not utter a Word in opposition to this deep Iranian Antisemitism.

 

Iran it is who have organized Holocaust Denial Conferences.

 

Obama and Cameron will say it is a limited deal. That is a lie. The sanctions are breached and the US is paying BILLIONS to the Iranian Fascists and Antisemites. The capitalists of the whole world will now rush in with mouths slathering in pursuit of profit. Thus the sanctions against Iran are over.

 

There are 19,000 centriguges in Iran. Not one is dismantled. All can work to enrich uranium. The Plutonium Plant will be finished in months ready to go.

 

This will OBVIOUSLY give new ímpetus to Iran and its Nuclear Bombs.

 

They put their house in order. They tighten their dictatorship over the Iranian youth.

 

Ready to go. It is written that they have enough material for 7 nuclear bombs at this momento…the time factor is said to be 26 days.

 

And the centriguges are always on ready. Now Obama offers them the chance to be all greased up ready to go.

 

A very interesting comment appeared by a person called “Chad” on the really excellent Pamela Geller Blog this morning and 4international replied thus:

 

START 4INTERNATIONAL COMMENT ON ATLAS SHRUGS

 

I agree very much with Chad above in bringing focus for this situation onto the Jewish leadership as a whole, which at every level is deficient to lead the Jews in this period. All Jewish bloggers in positions of leadership and all Gentile pro Jewish bloggers like mself must make this fact central.

It is one thing totally to condemn what has happened as do all of the Jewish leaders like Bennett and even Lapid today, and every single one of them, including Danon, but this condemnation looks totally different when it is placed against their activity firstly since the election and secondly all the way back since the state of Israel was founded.

This way of operating of this overall Jewish leadership included Dayan, the prominent General in the 67 war, who travelled down to the historical Temple Mount, to hand over that Temple Mount to the descenedents of Hajj Amin el Husseini, personally.

Look at it this way. The European capitalist leaders do what the European capitalist leaders have to do. That is they  HAVE TO unite with Iran and with the whole of the Arab bourgeoisie, as part of Islam.

Why do I say this and why do I insist that the European leaders HAVE TO unite with the Fascist (openly so) Arab and Islamic bourgeoisie? There are many reasons for me saying this.

As time is short I cannot list every reason. Please however and remember this is only one small example consider this.

This past week the Spanish pro-Franco PP (Popular Party which took over after Franco died) passed a law for Spain which will mean that any protester on any Street opposing the brutal Spanish oolice, and who INSULTS any Spanish police person, cn be fined something like 100,000 euros.

I will remind readers that there is about 70 per cent unemployment among the Young people of Spain. People exist in a great number of Spanish homes on the pensions of Grandmother and Grandfather.

OK! That is just one small example. But THAT is why the European bougeoisie has created an Alliance with Iran.

This could well mean that in the not too distant future a Nuclear Suitcase Bomb could explode in say Madrid, or say London, or say New York, OR SAY ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET.

But if you are a capitalist class as in any of these countries then that is not really a very big matter at all, if that is placed against putting down social revolution.

There are those on many sites, such as on Atlas Shrugs, who appear to say the right things about Islam. But they either miss, or more likely do not want to know, what is the real nature of the Alliance between Iran and the West.

Time will tell who is really telling the truth in days ahead.

4INTERNATIONAL IS THE ONLY SOCIALIST MOVEMENT DEFENDING ISRAEL AGAINST IRAN

Leon Trotsky with his daughter Nina in 1915

Leon Trotsky with his daughter Nina in 1915 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

THE 4INTERNATIONAL TAKES ISSUE WITH A GROUP CALLED WWW.WSWS.ORG

 

BEGIN WSWS QUOTE

Geneva talks on Iran resume while war threat remains

 

By Peter Symonds

 21 November 2013

 

International talks over Iran’s nuclear programs resumed in Geneva yesterday amid the strident public opposition of Israel to the agreement being discussed and the continued threat of war against Iran. Negotiators for the P5+1 group (the US, Britain, France, Russia, China and Germany) met yesterday and talks will continue today.

END WSWS QUOTE

 

 

This statement from these Fascists on wsws is what must be immediately contradicted. They represent not in the slightest Trotskyism, Leninism, Marxism. They are the words of Fascists who are using the cloak of being leftist to pursue what is Antisemitism.

 

What is the wsws doing here? Why would they be attacking Israel and supporting the Mullahs.

 

I have a picture on file of the Mullah regime executing at one go ten prisoners. The prisoners are standing on two benches at right angles, and they all have nooses around their necks. The prisoners are looking outward to our right to one point. I take it they are looking at somebody reading a hateful condemnation.

 

They may be petty criminals. They may be political fighters. I do not know but every instinct in my body makes me oppose these Iranian Fascists in this regime. But not the wsws.org!

 

Yet this wsws actually is supporting that regime against the state of Israel.

 

What else do these left fascists say?

 

BEGIN WSWS QUOTE

Israel is pressing the US and its European allies to demand the complete dismantling of Iran’s nuclear facilities, including its uranium enrichment plants and heavy water reactor at Arak. Tehran has repeatedly denied unsubstantiated Western and Israeli allegations that it is seeking to build a nuclear bomb.

 

Speaking to CNN on Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu denounced the proposed agreement as “an exceedingly bad deal,” adding that it was “no secret” that many Arab leaders held the same opinion. “To give the most dangerous regime of the 21st century the world’s most dangerous weapons is a big, big mistake,” he declared.

 

Netanyahu’s statements are utterly hypocritical. Israel not only has its own stockpile of nuclear weapons, but, unlike Iran, has a long history of military aggression against its neighbours. Netanyahu hinted once again that Israel was prepared to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities, saying: “We’ve been around for about 4,000 years, the Jewish people, and we are not about to let ayatollahs with nuclear weapons threaten that.” END QUOTE

 

AND THERE IS MORE

 

I repeat from the above what these wsws fascists masquerading as socialists, even Trotskyists,  (that is totally horrible) write

 

Tehran has repeatedly denied unsubstantiated Western and Israeli allegations that it is seeking to build a nuclear bomb.

 

But in answer to this THEY ARE. They are building Nuclear Bombs. The whole world knows it. Obama knows it very well. Every Tom Dick and Harry knows it.

 

Moreover the other argument the wsws use…Yes Israel has the Nuclear Bomb, and Israel thank goodness has the Nuclear Bomb, because the Jews have to defend themselves against Antisemitism.

 

This is not words. The wsws is not a Trotskyist movement. Leon Trotsky would spit on them…this wsws.

 

We on www.4international.me will build the alternative. Of all the issues in the world today the first issue for socialists is to defend the Jews of Israel from another Holocaust. That means by every means do not allow the enemy of the Jews get the Nuclear Weapon.