4INTERNATIONAL now stands on its own in defending the 6 Jews arrested and being charged with the murder of a Palestinian Arab youth

The “great” jewish leader Ted Belman of Israpundit refuses to defend these 6 Jews

I am totally and completely as a revolutionary socialist, no religious affiliation, totally atheist, based on the science of materialism COMPLETELY DISGUSTED WITH ALL ISRAELI JEWISH LEADERS and above all with Belman

Belman of Israpundit issued one of the most pernicious attacks on Jews when he in a statement basically threw these 6 arrested by the Israeli pólice onto the garbage heap.

Murderers are murderers, whether Jew or Arab. Their lawyers will try to diminish the nature of the crime by arguing grievance. But that is not the issue here.The PA and Hamas share responsibility for the murder of the three Jewish boys because they glorify killers and encourage the killing of Jews. The same cannot be said of Israel. Israel never advocates murder or hate and so is not complicit in the murder of the Arab boy. Israel, in no way bears responsibility. The fact that Israel refused to knuckle under Arab demands and American pressure to “make peace” changes nothing. Ted Belman

Belman took the Word of the Israeli pólice

That is the same pólice which rammed through the Gaza withdrawal and the same pólice which pulled Jew after Jew out of their homes in Gaza


I can find no Jewish Israeli leader or blogger I MEAN NOT ONE who is prepared to stand up and defend these Jewish 6 against the Israeli pólice


But my disgust leads me to the point I have always made that there needs to be a new Trotskyist leadership built in Israel


I have investigated many such situations one of which was the so called massacre in Srebrenica. I found in Srebrenica that the whole deal against the Serbs was hatched by the Media among Muslims far away from Srebrenica and in which the Muslims were able to say anything

Something very similar has happened here. Everything we know is what the pólice tells. That includes a reenactment by 3 of the 6 accused who the pólice told us have reenacted the crime

So then if the case is thus AND SO FIRM why are they keeping the lawyers away from these 6

These 6 are being hung out to dry by the Israeli bloggers every dammed one of them

Only 4international is defending and will defend these 6 Jews from the pólice.

Let that be remembered. We certainly will remember it. What chance that Netanyahu defeats Hamas???!!! Not a chance nor any of these other “leaders” like Belman when they stick the kniffe into 6 Jews thus

The only site I find reporting is Arutz Sheva:

One of the fathers says:

“The father claimed that the main suspect in the murder “has psychological problems. He’s a dear person and wouldn’t have done something like this. If he did do something like this, it’s because of his sickness.”

“The cousins are crazy for him, my son is crazy for him. They’d do anything he’d tell them. But he confessed out of illness, he’s mentally sick. I don’t believe that he would do something like this, but I know that he is sick,” added the father.

He further noted that one of the minors arrested “takes pills too. He’s a child who doesn’t go to yeshiva because he has fears. I know each of these children closely. They are good kids who aren’t capable of doing bad things. He (the main suspect) is psychologically sick, and he dragged them after him to it. He has an illness, everyone knows.”




There is only ONE answer to the kidnapping of the 3 Jewish boys from a Yeshiva in Judea and Samaria (the correct name for this historical Jewish land and not the incorrect name of the West Bank a name which emerged after 1967 and was destined to rob Jews of their history in the area)


There really is only the ONE answer and it is this. It means pushing back a little bit in order to make up for past mistakes/betrayals of Jewish leaders, especially in the post 1967 Arab Genocidal War against the Jews


“The build up to the Six-Day War came from President Gamal Abdul Nasser’s call in mid-May 1967 to all Arab nations to drive the “Jew into the sea”. This was Israel’s greatest fear. It was surrounded by hostile Arab countries…” (interesting article this)


Yesterday on a local commercial radio station Pippa Jones had as a guest the Breaking the Silence ANTISEMITIC JEWISH group spouting their LIES about the Israelis having a great responsibility to observe human rights, while the “Palestinians” have a little responsibility too but not so much because there is what the Pippa Jones show called (repeatedly meaning over and over and over) an “Occupation” . Jones may even be a Jew and the owner of the radio “Talk Radio Europe” is Jewish, a guy called Martin Nathan.


As I said there is only the one answer to this. It is this:


  1. End all talk about areas A B or C
  2. There is only one “AREA” and that is Israel
  3. The Arabs in that area are there by Conquest, a brutal conquest carried out by the Islamic Jihad, just as much as the Arabs in Jihad invaded as Jihadists into Spain
  4. Israelis must have a new leadership which will meet the Jihad in a certain way
  5. The area must be conquered in battle again even as it was in 1967. The Arabs have got to leave the area. Israelis are kind and civilised and will even make it easy for them to leave
  6. There is no alternative to this method…NONE
  7. The setting up of huts on hills or whatever else has been attempted since 1967 and is really pointless. They are essentially “Jewish do-gooders” and they dismiss the rules of war…First you conquer the area. Then you settle in the area.
  8. These youth were unprotected and were sitting ducks. First you get a leadership which will conquer the area, drive out the enemy of the Jews. THEN you settle the area.


Since 1967 and arguably before (Herzl and Ben Gurion) everything has been done arse about face





Capitalist leaders burned these Ukrainian workers alive. Right Sector is their tool.


The whole of the Media is silent as anti-Fascist Ukrainians, that is anti-Right Sector backed by Kiev Government and Obama, are roasted alive in a trade union building in Odessa.


There is also complete silence in the Jewish Israeli blogging community on this. The ultra-Fascist type website Gates of Vienna has a piece of lying garbage by a regular contributor there which lies (again) that Lenin was the same as Hitler. AT THIS VERY TIME OF THE ODESSA FIRE. TOTAL GARBAGE PEOPLE ON GATES OF VIENNA.


Meanwhile the Jewish Israeli website Israpundit has exactly at this time when Obama sets out to hammer Russia into submission AND THE ODESSA FIRE an article attacking Putin as just about equal also with Hitler.


Now what precisely is Israpundit (Belman) and Gates of Vienna going to say about this latest Fascist murders in Odessa?


It was in this general area that the Russian Civil War raged in which Trotsky, Lenin and their Red Army defeated the Czarist Whites who were totally Antisemitic, and Lenin and Trotsky in those months and years of the Civil War MADE ANTISEMITISM A CAPITAL OFFENSE. Lenin and Trotsky saved the millions of Jews from immediate Holocaust in 1918!


The fire and killing was carried out by the capitalist governments of the West led by Obama. It is an absolute betrayal of all Jews that these so called Jewish blogs should be supporting Obama and US and EU capitalist elites against Russia in support of open Fascists like Right Sector.


These are the Fascists of Ukraine that were behind the Holocaust of the Jews in Ukraine.


What an utter shame that is for Jews today that their leaders are doing this to them today.


These Fascists in the Right Sector are the same Fascists as you have in Fatah and in Hamas. There is no difference whatsoever, yet you have Jewish bloggers like Belman of Israpundit leading the charge in support of Obama in order to screw Putin and Russia.


Talk about being politically messed up. How could Jews win a single battle with characters like the ex-Toronto lawyer Belman entering into politics in retirement with his pro Obama (over the hounding of Putin and Russia)…HOW?


It is quite impossible for Jews in our epoch of drive towards Fascism in all countries to win one battle, and even to save themselves as Jews. Yet everybody except me is silent over this Edward S May and Ted Belman. Where is the fight for principles? Why are Jews silent on Right Sector in Ukraine? Right Sector IS Hamas and Fatah, all equal in hatred of Jews.


It was actually the same fate as handed out to these poor Nigerian girls…the same Fascist forces at work behind both. The Nigerian girls are by now sold into the slavery of Muslim Sharia marriage destined for captured slaves. That is captured Christian slaves as Francis in the Vatican is quiet as a little mouse in the face of the Jihad…lefty anti Marxist Wee Francie!


Obama, the West and the BBC have set up this burning in Odessa. The betrayal of Jews is carried out by blogs like that of May and Belman. They set the scene and the thugs of Right Sector move in. may and Belman have set the scene for this burning of anti fascists. How horrible for Jews!


All of this bears out the analysis of 4international. It was clearly a CIA promoted Fascist Coup in Kiev. Those protesting in Maidan were ramrodded by Fascists just as was the Arab Spring. Nothing was spontaneous. It had been planned and prepared for years. Then accident enters in and they can move fast while lack of leadership hamstrings the antifascists.




That is forced from power by armed bodies of men on the streets.


That is the clear definition of Fascism. Yet May and Belman cannot call it like that for a single second. That means only one thing that they do not understand what Fascism is and thus are a huge danger to Jews, because Jews under Fascism are always in great danger.


They will do the same to Jews everywhere. Belman now thinks he is safe in Israel. Bear a thought Belman for the Jews in the world, including vulnerable non-Jews like me who support the Jews and Israel. Bear a thought Belman!


This is indeed serious stuff. The Ukrainian fighters against this Fascism, and those just vulnerable, had retreated to the trade union building in Odessa. News only came via twitter etc. The media were not interested. The Jewish bloggers looked away.


Some of these anti Fascists jumped from the fire. Some sat on window sills preparing themselves to jump. Comparisions with 9-11 are obvious and actually the same forces are at work…the Fascists there were the Bin Laden Fascists of Islam  JUST AS IN THE HOLOCAUST Islam was joining with Imperialism.


And just with the Nigerian girls the Fascists had no pity. When they jumped to the ground and injured they were surrounded by the Right Sector Fascists of Obama and Cameron and killed anyway.


The Odessa police paid by Kiev puppets of Obama looked on. They did not do a thing.


This shows the desperate plight of all workers and youth in Ukraine with the coming to power of this Right Sector Obama promoted Fascist Government.


Putin is weak. Putin is a weak man and shows all the weakness of Stalinism.


There is only one thing for a Russian Revolutionary Government to do, a government that would be led by TROTSKYISM. That is to have moved immediately against the Fascist coup in Kiev, defeated the Fascists, organised new elections in which the CIA and Obama would have no part to play thus a true election (they would be arrested at once), then to arrest and place on trial all of these fascist savages of Right Sector. Only that would have prevented the Odessa murders.


Let us see what will happen. But one thing I do see. Those Jewish leaders like I have mentioned who have not fought Fascism in Ukraine will not fight the Fascism of Hamas and Fatah either.


Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered to withdraw from 97 percent of the West Bank and 100 percent of the Gaza Strip. In addition, he agreed to dismantle 63 isolated settlements. In exchange for the 5 percent annexation of the West Bank, Israel would increase the size of the Gaza territory by roughly a third.
Barak also made previously unthinkable concessions on Jerusalem, agreeing that Arab neighborhoods of East Jerusalem would become the capital of the new state. The Palestinians would maintain control over their holy places and have “religious sovereignty” over the Temple Mount.

These are facts. These facts cannot be negated. Yet within one year all of these facts were being questioned Edward Said style. There is a whole industry of lies that has sprung up among the Arabs and the leftist Antisemites who take their method from Stalin, especially Breznev Stalinism, and not from the noble tradition of socialism at all.

But let us first consider Barak, because if the Jews are to be saved then they will have to do so by their own struggle and in this every aspect of leadership is and will be key.

I want to consider Barak as a type in Israel and in the world of the Jews. Of course we can dismiss immediately that Barak is stupid, he is in fact quite a brilliant man with a very capable mind and personality, with great grasp of detail in planning and sometimes in conversation. He is at the top of Israeli society and none of these people are stupid. So what gives then with this persistent trend to set up your worst foes in positions of power.

The first thing that must be understood is a comment that Trotsky made in relation to the Jews returning to Palestine during interviews he gave to the press in the late 1930s. This was not an article, this was a sentence or two in the midst of an oral interview, and of course it went over the head of the interviewer, and has never been heard of since.

I personally have never forgotten it. Trotsky said that in our modern world (by this he means modern barbaric world where capitalism is in its death agony) that just by stating something does not bring success, just by being right does not mean winning. I am paraphrasing wildly here but the issue is that these questions are fought out in a material and physical way.

The literature on Camp David is quite extensive for the following reason connected to those thoughts on Trotsky. Barak, with the imput of Clinton I presume, did come to the table with a final offer. Barak was in a position of authority and if he had reached an agreement then the Israeli Government would have honoured it, carried it out. Barak was clearly proposing to Arafat to rid the “West bank” of Jews except for a few places “on the edges” with concentrations of Jews living. Plus…an extended Gaza, making up for that 10 per cent by giving the Palestine Arab state MORE land, some safeguards for the Jews for a while as planes reaching Israel had to fly over the West Bank. (I use here the Arab term which is a concession…just for clarity)

He did make the offer. Arafat did listen and then walked. Arafat and his chums made no counter offer. Not we like this part…how about this. He walked and within a short time the “Intifada” began. The Israelis, the Jews, were following closely and saw immediately what had happened. It was so obvious and so truthful in that the experience got to the essence of the problem. The Israelis did not have to sell anything as the Leftist Antisemites like halpin later claimed, it was all there out in the open. The issue was not really about making peace, about reaching a settlement at all. The issue was about power. Then after a pause the leftist Antisemites in union with these Arabs began to rewrite what had happened and the Edward Said school of falsification stepped in, which we will indeed look at, but not here because I am focussed on Barak.

The Jews are battered by Antisemitism for Millennia so will grasp at any glimpse of peace with the Arabs. This aspect while it is obviously true and as proposed by Kenneth Levin (I saw it first in Francisco Gil White) does not cut it for me. It is dangerous because it makes Jews out to be exceptional. We are all battered one way or another. It answers nothing. Jews like all of us have to break and make a fresh start. There is no programme of action in Levin, just waiting, reacting.

I am a great fan of the book by Alan Dershowitz called “The Case for Israel” published first in 2003 (not expensive and available on Amazon). This is quite strange because there is not one single conclusion that Dershowitz reaches that I can agree with in respect to action or perspectives. But it is the same paradox as is Barak, very capable people, reaching false conclusions re perspective.

Pages 45-47 are worth a lot of study. The structure is this. The Leftist Antisemite Chomsky, who despite appearances sometimes is always an agent of the US Establishment, has accused the Jews of Israel as being “rejectionist”, hence the title of the chapter in dershowitz that the Jews are anything but rejectionist, meaning that they have always been for the two state solution.

Here is the value of Dershowitz. To prove his false argument he brings up the most important historical material, in this occasion the Peel Commission of 1938.

The main aspect of the Peel Commission to bear down upon is that it was a response to the violence of the Arabs (initiated by the soon to be Nazi Hajj Amin el Husseini who would travel about 4 years later to be with the Nazis in the carrying out of the Holocaust)

As a response to this violence this British Commission proposed a partition which the Jews accepted, the Arabs rejected. To understand this you need to see the map of this partition. Jerusalem is internationalised and the Jews are thrown a few scrappy acres in the North.

The Jews would accept anything. The Arabs would oppose everything so long as the Jews were there. It is so clearly Antisemitism.

What is so alarming is that Chomsky just argues totally a lie. Yes, Alan Dershowitz shows precisely how Chomsky simply lies and lies. But back to Trotsky…that is still not a decisive thing. Good people can lose.

What is also alarming is the outstanding truths contained in the analysis of the Peel Commission about the situation but its obvious bias in conclusion (what Peel proposed) against the Jews. They are basically saying, you have so much right on your side, but hey it was them who started the violence so you lose anyway.

And this sets the pattern for so much to folow, even in our present world down to this present day. Like say Mubarak…you have been an opponent of Sharia but hey these folks against you are very violent in deed and thought, so you lose Mubarak. You bugger off. Ben Ali in Tunisia the same. Gadhafi the same but in spades since Gadhafi because of his agreement with Bush and Blair was actually aiding VERY ACTIVELY in the hunt for Al Qaida operatives. Cameron says to Gadhafi “Yes I know you aided Blair and hunted down Al Qaida but these folks in Benghazi are very violent so you bugger off too”. The same treatment to Assad and the reason that Assad does not just fade away as did Ben Ali is because not only has he learned that lesson but there are definite political forces backing him, the minority Alawites, the Christians, the Kurds, the Assyrians (anybody who is a minority and will get short shrift from the genocidal Muslims)

To return to Barak and Camp David. No he was not stupid. He understood the genocidal nature of the Arabs. He proposed the suicidal state on the doorstep of Tel Aviv not because he was stupid but because he was politically bankrupt, a different thing entirely. It is that political bankruptcy (not wilful treachery) that is so important to understand.



WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME has always stood behind Israel and we have always said that the main intention of the Arabs was to destroy Israel. That is what the Antisemitic Leftists have been supporting, the destruction of Israel.

This article deals with how weak is the present Israeli Jewish leaders, not one leader, but them all…

The article points to the need for a qualitative different leadership.


Myth and Fact: Arafat and Camp David
Mitchell G. Bard

“Yasser Arafat rejected Ehud Barak’s proposals at Camp David and the White House in 2000 because they did not offer the Palestinians a viable state. Palestine would have been denied water, control of its holy places, and would have been divided into cantons surrounded by Israelis. Israel would have also retained control of Jerusalem and denied refugees the right to return.”
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered to withdraw from 97 percent of the West Bank and 100 percent of the Gaza Strip. In addition, he agreed to dismantle 63 isolated settlements. In exchange for the 5 percent annexation of the West Bank, Israel would increase the size of the Gaza territory by roughly a third.
Barak also made previously unthinkable concessions on Jerusalem, agreeing that Arab neighbourhoods of East Jerusalem would become the capital of the new state. The Palestinians would maintain control over their holy places and have “religious sovereignty” over the Temple Mount.

Mitchell G. Bard states above what is true. These are facts and are definitely verifiable.

Their importance is that they show the Israeli leadership on their knees begging Arafat and the “Palestinians” for a deal, and this Jewish leadership were prepared to instal them in a state, making huge concessions on security. It would have meant the withdrawal of all Jews from Gaza, the extension of Gaza, having a Palestinian Arab state within spitting distance of ben Gurion airport, and other such nonsence. And it shows the Arabs spurning Israel, for what, really for a one state in which the Arabs would have the majority, which is the same formula which the Muslim Brotherhood has fought for in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and now Syria.

So there are two sides. One is the very faulty leadership on the Jewish siode. The other is the real intentions of the Arab Palestinians, who are always following the programme of genocide of the Jews, as laid down in the Hamas Charter, which is why it remains in place.

Here the link is created with the present, especially the present in Syria, where the same pattern as in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya is operational.

In all of these the West, including the BBC, is engaged on the side of these genocidal Arabs of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaida.

The BBC anchor man this morning was calling the Mali Jihadists as “fighters” while their reporter on the spot kept calling them Islamists.

The so-called left as we know it today has surrendered to this.


By Felix Quigley

April 26, 2008

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