The issue of Libya remains central and is the touchstone of politics today

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description:  MEDITERRANEAN SEA (March 19, 2011) The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Barry (DDG 52) launches a Tomahawk missile in support of Operation Odyssey Dawn. This was one of approximately 110 cruise missiles fired from U.S. and British ships and submarines that targeted about 20 radar and anti-aircraft sites along Libya’s Mediterranean coast. Joint Task Force Odyssey Dawn is the U.S. Africa Command task force established to provide operational and tactical command and control of U.S. military forces supporting the international response to the unrest in Libya and enforcement of United Nations Security Council Resolution (UNSCR) 1973.


Leon Trotsky without a single moment of hesitation decided to defend Haile Selassie and call for the victory to the forces of Haile Selassie when his country was attacked by Mussolini. Selassie was politically speaking a despot. It is precisely the same

4international rejects the anti-war movement (SWP et al) position which is a type of pacifism, and a type of conspiracy, and a type of anti-Semitism, is a hatred of America in the worst sense, is a hatred of Israel and the Jewish Homeland (Zionism), and also merges in with these reactionaries like you have on conspiracy blogs such as Alex Jones. We have nothing to do with that.

Yet Libya remains the touchstone of all politics.

The following is what the neo con writer on the NWT (New York Times) Bill Kristol spoke on Sky News Sunday. Video is on and this is a transcript of a key sentence:

KRISTOL: I think at this point you probably have to do more than a no fly zone. You probably have to tell Qaddafi he has to stop his movement east and that we are going to use assets to stop him from slaughtering people as he moves east across the country. We might take out his ships in the Mediterranean. We might take out tanks and artillery.

“We” of course being, not Mr Kristol personally, but the brute force of NATO. But let us be very clear when we say NATO, we also mean the United Nations, we mean the power of the US Imperialist state and system, we mean the power of the EU, we mean the Media and especially the BBC, we mean the whole apparatus of these groups such as human Rights Watch. The whole thing adds up to an evil Empire.

There is another item in the mix that keeps on appearing in these great battles in the world today.

Take Islam. In the destruction of Yugoslavia Islam in the shape of Izetbegovic and later the KLA were backed by those forces I mentioned above, in other words Imperialism. The Vatican also has been central as it always has been!

The same thing has happened in quick succession in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya

And still one more item and that is the role of both China and Russia. At key points in every situation these two forces betray. They did it in Yugoslavia and they have done it again at the most crucial time in Libya, when they voted or abstained in key UN Resolutions. Later they make complaints but that is after the damage is done. Later they try to withdraw but their previous action (of support for Imperialism) is over and done with. This means that the historical betrayal of “Stalinism” still continues

Of course we on 4international support the fight of Jihadwatch and of Atlas Shrugs against the alliance with Sharia in America especially. Both of those blogs are continually exposing Islam/Sharia as the most repressive ideology known to man. This is especially the case with Islam/Sharia and the role of women in society. In this 4international stands shoulder to shoulder with Jihadwatch and with Atlas Shrugs.

But neither of those two sites and leaderships have ever for single split second defended Gadhafi and his leadership from the above reaction

And that in a sense is a starting point of everything

I issue a challenge. It is very simple. Read through Jihadwatch and Atlas Shrugs. You will see lots of evidence that they KNOW that the Gadhafi regime is under threat from what we describe above. But you will find NO defence of the Gadhafi regime.

That is a big issue and that is an HISTORICAL issue

I mean “historical” in the sense that before this is out those two sites and leaderships will have to face up to what they have done on this issue. (Felix Quigley)