IN THE MAJOR DEBATE BETWEEN OBAMA AND ROMNEY OBAMA WAS A LIAR OVER MURDER OF STEPHENS

What to make of the debate last night between Obama and Romney (The second of 3)?

There was a real difference between these two US capitalist politicians and the difference is that Obama was proven  by his exchange on the murder of Ambassador Stephens in Benghazi to be a total and practised liar.

As far as the economic crisis in capitalism is concerned neither had,  have or will have an answer. We clearly are heading into dictatorship country, the forms of which (fascist, police State, Army Rule) are not yet clear to anybody.

Let us look at a couple of responses to this important debate.

The anti-Marxist and anti-Troptskyist organization called www.wsws.org wrote a treacherous piece saying there were no differences between Romney and Obama, at all. You can apreciate that this covers up for the lies of Obama on Stephens, which was the key moment int he debate. The wsws writes:

“A basic purpose of the spectacle was to create the illusion of fundamental policy differences between the two candidates and their parties, when there are none. The political differences between the Democrats and Republicans reflect secondary tactical differences within the ruling oligarchy.”

http://wsws.org/articles/2012/oct2012/deba-o17.shtml

By ignoring the lies of Obama on Stephens the WSWS are covering for this total liar, when workers and youth of America need to know about these lies.

If www.wsws.org is a Trotskyist organization then I will eat my hat because in order to discover the nature of the lie of Obama and the way that Crowley the interviewer was working to try to save Obama’s ass in this election WE HAVE TO TURN TO www.breitbart.com, which is opposed to socialism, but unlike these fraudsters of www.wsws.org does care about the truth, in politics and in life in general.

And Breitbart tells us:

The lowest and most dishonest part of Crowley’s disgraceful “moderation” was when she actually jumped into the debate to take Obama’s side when the issue of Benghazi came up. To cover for his and his administration’s lying for almost two weeks about the attack coming as the result of a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video, Obama attempted to use as cover the claim that he had called the attack a “terrorist attack” on that very first day during his Rose Garden statement.

Romney correctly disputed that.

Crowley, quite incorrectly, took Obama’s side and the crowd exploded.

Here’s what Obama said that day:

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.

Context matters and the context here is that Obama connected this “act of terror” to … a mob action over a YouTube video — not a deliberate terrorist attack. Obama was using the term generically and it would be almost two weeks before he used it again.

Let’s not forget that Susan Rice said declaratively on the five Sunday shows four days later that it was NOT an act of terror.

And during those two weeks the Obama administration lied like a rug…The lowest and most dishonest part of Crowley’s disgraceful “moderation” was when she actually jumped into the debate to take Obama’s side when the issue of Benghazi came up. To cover for his and his administration’s lying for almost two weeks about the attack coming as the result of a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video, Obama attempted to use as cover the claim that he had called the attack a “terrorist attack” on that very first day during his Rose Garden statement.

Romney correctly disputed that.

Crowley, quite incorrectly, took Obama’s side and the crowd exploded.

 

(Article by John Nolte on http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/16/Crowley-Saves-Obama-with-false-fact-check)

 

SO WE HAVE CAUGHT OUT OBAMA LYING, AND I MEAN LYING BIG TIME.

To go over this again. the essence to remember is that the Obama team which included Susan Rice and Mrs Clinton as well as Obama, said that the murder of Stephens was the result of the film, that it grew out of a protest against the film.

That is what Romney was saying. Obama wanted to hide this record and in front of millions Crowley helped him to hide this.

The people in the hall swallowed this Obama lies.

But the political people, even people on pro-Obama blogs and other seasoned reporters etc. saw the lie and the inhustice immediately in the discussions afterwards.

Again www.breitbart.com tells the truth and the wsws tells us lies.

***UPDATE 4: Politico’s Dylan Byers: “After the debate, even Crowley seemed to acknowledge that she had erred.”

***UPDATE 3: Even Politico’s Mike Allen is questioning Crowley’s call.

***UPDATE 2: Even Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler says Crowley got it wrong: Obama “did not say terrorism.”

***UPDATE: After the debate, Anderson Cooper was the first member of the CNN post debate group to question whether or not Romney really got the Libya issue wrong. They then brought Crowley on and after all the damage she had done during the debate, she finally admitted that Romney was “right” but “picked the wrong word.”

 

I also listened today to a report by Stephen Ritson ont he Talk Radio Europe show. Stephen gave a good report but missed the significance of these lies by Obama and seems not tol have understood the terrible role of the Obama team in the murder of the American Ambassador Stephens, which itself grew out of the failure of Obama to defend the Coptic Film Maker without conditions.

 

I am writing to Ritson so that he can put this oversight right.

IF YOU CANNOT DEFEND ASSAD YOU CANNOT DEFEND ISRAEL EITHER (FROM RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT)

There is a lengthy discussion on Israpundit on Powers and “Responsibility to Protect”. These Jewish leaders in the Diaspora are in total crisis because they do not know how to fight against the phenomenon of the “Arab Spring” which is at the same time the fight against Fascism, and indeed the alliance of the capitalist powers with Islam is the making of the modern Fascist Movement.

In this context the word that is never mentioned by Ted belman, Pamela Geller, Spencer and others is Marxism or Trotskyism. Rather than the truth they try to muddy the waters on Leon Trotsky and his defence of the Jews and the Israel in the making.

I wrote the following in a comment (url below) and please understand that if you do not defend the disreputable Assad against this Fascism of “Responsibility to Protect” then you do not defend the Jews and Israel either.

 

{This is the comment}

Let us get one thing crystal clear. If anybody thinks that Romney as a Republican President would not support “responsibility to protect” then please think on, and keep on thinking.

Heck even the editor of Israpundit Ted Belman backed up a bloodthirsty call of a noted Jewish American organization on this very site to bomb the living bejasus out of Gadhafi. It is true that Ted pulled back from this but it is on record that I immediately attacked this position, which is also not only the death-knell of sovereign states as under Gadhafi but also is the end of the road for the Jewish state of Israel.

Israel and its present leaders, which includes also the total leadership in the Diaspora (the leadership of the Jews has many differing strands, being traditionally a broad church, which is good and bad actually), and includes people like Ted and Gerry Gordan plus a thousand others, are sitting ducks. This is the result of political cowardice, of deep bias against new perspectives rooted in Judaism and in the conservatism of Judaism, which historically this conservatism has its good and bad aspects.

From the beginning of the crisis in Yugoslavia I recognized that THAT was “responsibility to protect” and I fought for the independence of the Serb people to fight to hold together their unified state of Yugoslavia, while people like Gerry Gordon did not lift a finger to defend Yugoslavia, but rationalised its break-up.

Ted was shaky on this at the beginning but a chap called Bill from Canada, a lawyer, disgraced Jews forever by sitting on the fence, while Yamit82 disgraced the memory of Yamit 1982 by launching the most vicious slanders against the Serbs, culled from disreputes like Hoare.

Came to Egypt Yamit82 and others found every reason under the sun NOT TO defend Mubarak from the Muslim Brotherhood and US Imperialism cum EU cum UN cum NATO.

Ben Ali was no different, Gaghbo no different, Gadhafi no different, and now Assad.

Funny that! Not talking about THAT, eh!

There is no point at all in moaning about Power and “responsibility to protect” if you do not actively defend Assad against just this very same thing.

The thing about Ted, the “weaselie” yamit82, Gordon, Mr Barry Rubin and a thousand other Jews, (I say Jews but remember that each and every one of these speaks only for themselves) is that they can always find the words to be utterly hypocritical.

So the opposition to Obama/Powers on Syria fell to the Stalinists of China and Russia and that is an unstable foundation, because the Stalinists are reactionary to the core. They always end up supporting Imperialism because Stalinism is a creation of Imperialism, and are not Marxists, are in opposition to Marxism.

Ayers was a creation of the CIA and Jared Israel has detailed how he and his girl friend split a promising student movement in the 60s which was seeking to link the students with the American workers.

So please do not refer to Ayers as a Marxist unless you are either intellectually challenged or wilfully dishonest.

Same applies also to our friend Obama. Obama a Marxist ha ha ha!

All the evidence points to the murky hand of the CIA behind Obama also. Do not forget that the CIA protected Eichmann in South America until the Jews busted the CIA post 45 racket and caught that piece of filth.

And just remember that if you cannot defend Assad from Annan then you had best shut up about this “responsibility to protect”, and when the NATO descends on the Jews in Israel as they did on the Christians in Kosovo keep your hypocritical mouths firmly shut there also.

You have to be consistent to be believed.

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