SREBRENICA: BOSNIAN MUSLIM JIHAD KILLINGS OF 3,500 CHRISTIANS

4international is going to have another look at this so called “Srebrenica Massacre”. We reprint this article to get the ball rolling, but this is only the start. I am prepared to give credit where credit is due but also to be critical of everything written.

I will add my comments to this article later. I am looking closely at the end of the article which seems to be devoid of revolutionary strategy and tactics as to how to fight the NATO/JIHAD alliance

 

Srebrenica: Bosnian Muslim Jihad killings of 3,500 Christians

Jun 12, 2011

By Lee Jay Walker from Modern Tokyo Times |

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The image of Srebrenica tells us more about the reality of the majority of the media and of course the “Muslim victim card” is being used in order to cleanse the Bosniak Muslims. After all, from enslaving Orthodox Christians during their brotherly love with the Turkish slave masters of the Ottoman Empire to having Muslim SS units who supported Adolf Hitler; then “victimhood” is needed in order to justify their history and culture.
 
Of course the wishy-washy brigade will tell us that the Ottoman period was enlightened and that the system of taking the eldest Christian boy (devshirme system) in the Balkans and converting them to Islam was noble.  Yes, slavery in the modern era being justified and not mere slavery because the system meant that they would kill their own people in the name of Islam after being indoctrinated by Islamists in the Ottoman Empire.

Bosnian Muslim government Jihad forces

However, the liberal agenda tells us that Europe owes so much to Islam.  Strange because Islam took the sword to Europe and enslaved and colonized and this reality shames historians and commentators who manipulate history.  After all, if people stated that the Atlantic slave trade was enlightening then people would be rightly condemned. However, when scholars and journalist speak about a tolerant Islamic Ottoman Empire or about their man made multi-religious Bosnia then the elites clap in admiration while leaders in Mecca dream about Islamization by stealth jihad.
 
Of course even the Atlantic trade route is also manipulated because little is said about the Arab and Turkish enslavement of Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe.  These tens of millions of slaves do not count and it would not suit the agenda to mention white slaves and Hindu slaves.
 
The Orthodox Christian world along with Africa and the Hindu world suffered so much at the hands of Islamic slavery and Protestant and Catholic imperialism which also enslaved.  This reality is forgotten and it appears that even in recent times that Orthodox Christians and Hindus do not count.
 
After all, three wars in the Balkans since the 1970s in Bosnia, Cyprus and Kosovo and every time the West supported Islam. Also, the Turkish genocide which killed millions of Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks, is still not recognized despite several million Christians being slaughtered in 1915 and the following years (major pogroms took place also before this date).
 
Similarly, the de-Hinduization of Kashmir, Bangladesh and Pakistan does not seem to hit the headlines in modern times.  Therefore, while the Muslim population remains strong in India and is growing the Hindus of Bangladesh, Kashmir and Pakistan are in free fall in percentage terms.
 
Alas, it appears that Orthodox Christians and Hindus don’t count!
 
Turning back to Srebrenica and the reality or unreality of what really happened.  After all, Bosnian Muslims have to justify their past misdeeds and Western powers need to justify killing from the air during the bombing of Serbia.
 
You see, when NATO bombing attacks against mainly civilians took place in Serbia this was deemed to be “Western civilization.” Yes, the overwhelming majority of people killed were not military fighters in the army of Serbia but were civilians and bombing hospitals, the infrastructure and so forth was all justified in the name of “Western civilization.”
 
Strange, because when several million Africans who were mainly Christian or Animist were being killed in Southern Sudan by the Arab Muslim regime then nothing was done.  Therefore, “the double standards” or should I say “no standards” was at work once more and the twisting of history and reality was done in order to suit an agenda.
 
The House of Saud must have been so pleased with both events.  After all, kill millions of African Christians and Animists in Sudan in order to Arabize and Islamize and the West does nothing.  At the same time create two Islamic dominated states in Europe with Kosovo being accomplished and Bosnia being the future hope after the enforced demise of the Bosnian Serb Republic. 
 
This is where Srebrenica suits the agenda in order to cover-up all the misdeeds of past history and this applies to Bosniak Muslim history and the Western bombing of Serbia which enabled a body organ transplanting leadership to take power.
 
SREBRENICA IN ALL ITS COMPLEXITY
 
Before going deeper into what happened in Srebrenica it is important to clarify that thousands of Muslims were killed after Bosnian Serbian forces took Srebrenica.  This applies to not only Muslim soldiers who were killed but also innocent Muslims who were also killed during the mayhem of events. 

Srdja Trifkovic, who is an historian, foreign affairs analyst and respected author, states the following:
“During the Bosnian war between May 1992 and July 1995, several thousand Muslim men lost their lives in Srebrenica and its surroundings. Most of them died in July of 1995 when the enclave fell unexpectedly to the Bosnian Serb Army and the Muslim garrison attempted a breakthrough. Some escaped to the Muslim-held town of Tuzla, 38 miles to the north. Many were killed while fighting their way through; and many others were taken prisoner and executed by the Bosnian Serb army.”
 
Srdja Trifkovic continues by stating that “It is often pointed out that Srebrenica was an UN “protected zone,” but it is seldom noted that the enclave was simultaneously an armed camp used for attacks against Serb villages in the surrounding areas. Muslim General Sefer Halilovic confirmed in his testimony at the Hague Tribunal that there were at least 5,500 Bosnian Army soldiers in Srebrenica after it had obtained the “safe haven” status, and that he had personally arranged numerous deliveries of sophisticated weapons by helicopter.”
 
This statement is important because the Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic, confirms that you had at least 5,500 Bosnian Muslim Army soldiers in Srebrenica.  More important, these fighters had slaughtered more than 3,500 Christians prior to the fall of Srebrenica and this applies to young children, women and the elderly in surrounding villages.
 
Even worse, the so-called safe haven meant that Bosnian Muslim forces would attack outside of the main area of central Srebenica and kill Orthodox Christians. However, they would then return to Srebrenica in order to be protected and to re-enforce their stronghold and this applies to re-arming and so forth.  
 
The UNPROFOR commander, French General Philippe Morillon, testified that the crimes committed by Bosnian Muslim forces were “extraordinary” and made the Serbs’ desire for revenge to be “inevitable.”
 
Philippe Morillon clearly stated the name of the Bosnian Muslim commander Naser Oric who was known for being sadistic.  On February 12 in 2004 at The Hague Tribunal Philippe Morillon testified that Bosnian Muslim forces under Naser Oric “engaged in attacks during Orthodox (Christian) holidays and destroyed villages, massacring all the inhabitants. This created a degree of hatred that was quite extraordinary in the region.”
 
Philippe Morillon is clearly commenting about the massacres of thousands of Orthodox Christians who were killed in the surrounding region.  This applies to Christians being burnt alive, beheaded and so forth.
 
This Srebrenica is about two military forces being the Orthodox Bosnian Christian Serb forces and the Bosnian Muslim forces.  Therefore, the real Srebrenica is very different and if General Ratko Mladic did not have Bosnian Serb units in the region to stem the massacre of Orthodox Christians then the figure of 3,500 deaths would have been even higher.
 
Also, from a military point of view the Bihac Muslims in Western Bosnia under Fikret Abdic had supported the Bosnian Serbs but in time they would be crushed by Bosnian Muslim forces under the Islamist, Alija Izetbegovic. At the same time during the civil war in Croatia the Krajina Serbs would be forced out and many innocent Orthodox Christians would be killed and “cleansed.”
 
Srebrenica was part of a bigger battle and little is said about Serbian Christian areas in Sarajevo which were taken by Islamist military forces under Alija Izetbegovic. Therefore, not only had Srebrenica Muslim forces killed and slaughtered thousands of innocent Orthodox Christians in the surrounding region; but their brutality and numbers of more than 5,500 military Muslim soldiers meant that Bosnian Serb units were being pinned down.
 
It was a situation that was leading to vented up hanger and hatred.  After all, why wasn’t Krajina a protected area for Orthodox Christian Serbs and the same applies to Bihac where Muslims were moderate and wanted protection from Bosnian Islamist forces under Alija Izetbegovic….why weren’t these areas protected?
 
In fact, not only were the protected safe havens biased towards the Muslims who supported the Islamist Alija Izetbegovic; but at the same time thousands of international Islamists were allowed to enter Bosnia in order to slit the throats of Orthodox Christians and Catholic Christians because to international Islamists the war had a different meaning because it was an Islamic Jihad in their eyes.
 
Not only this, Bill Clinton who supported the Islamists who were given tacit approval to slaughter Orthodox Christians had a double agenda.  This applies to allowing thousands of international Islamists into Bosnia and at the same time to build up both Croatian Catholic units and the Bosnian Muslim Islamist leadership of Alija Izetbegovic.
 
Time was not on the side of the Bosnian Christian Serbs and in this sense General Ratko Mladic is being tried in the courts of The Hague because he had held out against a huge united and international agenda.  Indeed, for the Bosnian Serbs to have held out and maintain a vast area of Bosnia is remarkable given the fact that America, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and many others, alongside international Islamists like Al Qaeda, had all worked together in order to defeat the Bosnian Serbs.
 
Major-General (Ret) Lewis Mackenzie who is a retired Canadian general also raises serious doubts about so-called “good” and “evil.” In his article called
“The real story behind Srebrenica.  The massacre in the UN ‘safe haven’ was not a black and white event,” which was published in The Globe and Mail (July 14, 2005), he clearly highlights neglected areas.
 
Major General (Ret) Lewis MacKenzie states the following:
 
“As the Bosnian Muslim fighters became better equipped and trained, they started to venture outside Srebrenica, burning Serb villages and killing their occupants before quickly withdrawing to the security provided by the UN’s safe haven. These attacks reached a crescendo in 1994 and carried on into early 1995 after the Canadian infantry company that had been there for a year was replaced by a larger Dutch contingent.”
 
“The Bosnian Serbs might have had the heaviest weapons, but the Bosnian Muslims matched them in infantry skills that were much in demand in the rugged terrain around Srebrenica. As the snow cleared in the spring of 1995, it became obvious to Nasar Oric, the man who led the Bosnian Muslim fighters that the Bosnian Serb army was going to attack Srebrenica to stop him from attacking Serb villages. So he and a large number of his fighters slipped out of town. Srebrenica was left undefended with the strategic thought that, if the Serbs attacked an undefended town, surely that would cause NATO and the UN to agree that NATO air strikes against the Serbs were justified. And so the Bosnian Serb army strolled into Srebrenica without opposition.”
 
General Morillon bluntly states that “Naser Oric was a warlord who reigned by terror in his area and over the population itself. I think that he realized that these were the rules of this horrific war, that he could not allow himself to take prisoners. According to my recollection, he didn’t even look for an excuse. It was simply a statement: One can’t be bothered with prisoners.”
 
Morillon also recounts how “the Serbs took me to a village to show me the evacuation of the bodies of the inhabitants that had been thrown into a hole, a village close to Bratunac. And this made me understand the degree to which this infernal situation of blood and vengeance […] led to a situation when I personally feared that the worst would happen if the Serbs of Bosnia managed to enter the enclaves and Srebrenica.”
 
“I feared that the Serbs, the local Serbs, the Serbs of Bratunac, these militiamen, they wanted to take their revenge for everything that they attributed to Naser Oric. It wasn’t just Naser Oric that they wanted to revenge, take their revenge on; they wanted to revenge their dead on Orthodox Christmas.”
 
It is clear that the Bosnian Muslim forces and Srebrenica is not the “innocent Muslim lamb” which is being told; on the contrary “Srebrenica was a fortified Islamic stronghold which butchered and slaughtered innocent Orthodox Christians in the surrounding region.”
 
Also, events on the ground were changing rapidly and this applies to Bihac, Mostar, Krajina and many parts of Bosnia and Croatia. In the ensuing mayhem massacres on all sides took place and in Bihac it was local Muslims who were killed by Islamic forces which supported Alija Izetbegovic.
 
Indeed, it is strange that Alija Izetbegovic and Muslim units cared so much about crushing the moderate Muslims of Bihac when it was claimed that they were overstretched and facing genocide.  However, this is a different issue but interesting all the same because it shows you the limitations of many journalists who followed the “Islamist Alija Izetbegovic party line” and it shatters the myth because Serbian forces had helped the Muslims of Bihac.
 
Lord Owen also vindicates what General Morillon stated because on page 143 of his book, Balkan Odyssey, the respected Lord Owen comments that “On 16 April I spoke on the telephone to President Milosevic about my anxiety that, despite repeated assurances from Dr. Karadzic that he had no intention of taking Srebrenica, the Bosnian Serb army was now proceeding to do just that. The pocket was greatly reduced in size. I had rarely heard Milosevic so exasperated, but also so worried: he feared that if the Bosnian Serb troops entered Srebrenica there would be a bloodbath because of the tremendous bad blood that existed between the two armies. The Bosnian Serbs held the young Muslim commander in Srebrenica, Naser Oric, responsible for a massacre near Bratunac in December 1992 in which many Serb civilians had been killed. Milosevic believed it would be a great mistake for the Bosnian Serbs to take Srebrenica and promised to tell Karadzic so.”
 
In a past article I state that “I have given quotes from people who were on the ground and from people who know a lot about the real events of Bosnia and Srebrenica.  It would be difficult to claim that Lord Owen, General Morillon, and Lewis MacKenzie, are pro-Serbian or that they are holocaust deniers.”
 
“Therefore, it is clear that “the real Srebrenica” is not being told and the same applies to the “hidden Islamic jihad” which took place during the civil war and how ex-President Bill Clinton gave the green light to Islamists from all over the world to enter Bosnia.”
 
Srebrenica should be remembered but it should be remembered in its duality and this applies to thousands of innocent Orthodox Christians and Muslims who were killed by both sides.  It also should be remembered that Bosnian Muslim forces had slaughtered thousands of Christians first in the surrounding region of Srebrenica and that the “safe haven” was abused and generals from the international community who were on the ground state this clearly and Morillon testified in court.
 
Lewis MacKenzie comments that “two wrongs never made a right, but those moments in history that shame us all because of our indifference should not be viewed in isolation without the context that created them.”
 
With this powerful comment in mind and the complex nature of Bosnia and Croatia and the inner-struggle between the Muslim community in Bihac against the Islamist Alija Izetbegovic; alongside the international Islamist movement and Al Qaeda being involved; and the arming of Bosnian Muslim forces and Croatia by America, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and others. Then Srebrenica can’t be talked about by one single event because what happened before and the complexity of the civil wars means that the entire picture must be seen and the “evil and hatred” which existed was based on events prior to Bosnian Serb forces entering Srebrenica. 
 
In all civil wars you have massacres and no side is innocent and anybody who says differently is biased to the extreme.  If you view Hiroshima and Nagasaki and ignore events prior to this and the carpet bombing of Germany and Japan where millions were killed; then all the massacres which took place by Germany and Japan will not be viewed and in isolation you have a mass distortion of reality.
 
This is what is happening about Srebrenica; a huge distortion of reality and past events are being ignored and manipulated to an extreme point of view and which is anti-Serbian. 
 
Ratko Mladic from a Bosnian Serb point of view held out against multiple forces and this applies to the Bosnian Muslim forces, Catholic Croatian forces, international Islamists and nations like America, Iran, and Saudi Arabia who were re-arming the Croatians and Bosnian Muslim forces who supported Alija Izetbegovic.
 
If genuine healing is to take place or if the truth counts for anything; then Srebrenica should be remembered for the fallen on all sides.
 
It is not good enough to say that the deaths of more than 3,500 Orthodox Christians don’t count and to ignore the fact that the main massacres which took place in the region had been started by Bosnian Muslim forces.
 
A joint memorial would indicate that both sides killed innocents in and surrounding Srebrenica.  The massacre of innocent Christians and Muslims is a fact but the “Muslim victim card” and the “international community” desire to “cleanse their role in Srebrenica.”

SREBRENICA IS STARTING TO BE PROVED TO BE HOAX…BUT REMEMBER THAT IT IS THE SAME AS THE WAR ON GADHAFI

You cannot prevent the truth from coming out and this article by Julia Gorin, essentially about Srebrenica, and its introduction by Pamela Geller, is part of the truth about this greatest hoax of our times, if not of all time, getting abroad.

 

Gorin is right, the fact that this important news source, “Russia Today” is questioning the evidence of Srebrenica is a major blow against the Oliver Kamms and the others who have labelled those of us, especially 4international, as “genocide deniers”

 

There are two facts which 4international has continually emphasised; perhaps I would add one other to the following two:

 

1.     The very weighty “Dutch Report” clearly stated that they could find not ONE eye witness to say they SAW one murder by a Serb soldier when the Serbs entered the Srebrenica town

2.     The only “evidence” was the “evidence” of the supergrass Drazen Erdemovic who claimed in The Hague Kangaroo Court that he and 7 others murdered 1200 Muslims in a farm. But the prosecutors only called Erdemovic and not the 7 others, one of whom was the commander of Erdemovic, to give evidence at their Hague kangaroo Court. Suspicious or what!

3.     And the third point which really never should be left out is that journalists reported seeing Bin Laden being entertained at the court of the leader of the Muslims in Bosnia, Izetbegovic, in the early 1990s, as he was on his way to assembling the team who carried out the atrocity in New York, some years later. Many of these killers were trained in Bosnia linked to Iran.

 

(begin excerpt from 4international here)

 

According to the report, while Prentice was waiting in Izetbegovic’s foyer for an interview she, and a journalist from Germany’s Der Speigel, “saw Osama bin Laden being escorted into Izetbegovic’s office… needless to say this evidence did not sit well with the tribunal.”

 

Prentice was by no means the first to make the bin Laden-Bosnia connection. Izetbegovic’s plans for making Bosnia an Islamic state were long known, and the fact that there was a strong foreign mujahedin presence in Bosnia, would both indicate that her squelched testimony was highly relevant indeed.

 

However, as in all the other tribunals designed to bolster the Official Truth established by government interests – not least of all the 9/11 Commission – evidence such as hers is blotted out immediately or blocked in advance.

 

And vitally, the mass media has lost interest too, now that the “good news” has stopped flowing in like it used to, when the prosecution against Milosevic had the momentum. Since the former Yugoslav president has taken the offensive, however, Western media coverage has stopped altogether, expect for the occasional report fearing that his various illnesses might interfere with “justice” being done.

(from an article Eve Ann Prentice

Posted on February 7, 2008 by Felix Quigley)

 

 

These are the issues and it is on these key issues that the disinformation is concentrated.

 

For example, following the arrest of Ratko Mladic, who is actually nothing more than a Serb Christian patriot thrown against his will into a fight for survival against the Islamic Jihad which is in alliance with a western capitalist elite, the website in London called “Harry’s Place” ran several articles, with extensive comments, but not once was reference made to the key document in all of this, that is the book by Germinal Civikov, written in German but translated now into English, so there is no excuse, which clearly proves that there is no evidence provided except the “evidence” of this supergrass of the Balkans, Erdemovic

 

What happens is this and it happened time and time again in the North of Ireland:

 

1. 1.     Get somebody with a shady past
2. 2.     Offer him or her salvation (meaning keep out of prison)
3. 3.     Sugar the pill, a life elsewhere, money in the currency of new residency, job etc.

Having done that the supergrass becomes an empty vessel, and the evidential operation runs along these lines:

 

STEP NUMBER ONE…Special Branch pours “evidence” in one end

 

STEP NUMBER TWO…The supergrass appears for his day in court and the “evidence” emerges out the other end

 

We on 4international have said this all along. Now that the great freedom fighter Pamela Geller is taking up the issue things will change, a lot.

 

Expect sustained campaign of hatred directed at Geller. Now that Geller is on board it will be harder to “ignore” Gorin.

 

Also, in direct proportion to the success of the truth coming out, expect also the direct murder of Ratko Mladic, just as Slobodan Milosevic was also murdered in his Hague Prison, by poisoning. In other words Geller and Gorin are confronting an enemy which although bankrupt, is very dangerous.

 

For the First Time upon the Capture of a Wanted Serb, a News Broadcast Questions the Evidence

A crack in the wall of disinformation and lies in the ongoing blood libel against the Christian Serbs. The lie must be protected at any and all costs. Cowardly clowns like Jeffrey Goldberg pile on to score points with the propagandists and smear merchants (of which he prides himself of being). This faux Jew calls me a “genocide denier.” These anti-intellectuals disregard concretes and claim that the widely disputed and inflated figure of some eight thousand (though many say it was hundreds) dead is a “genocide. ” Though little is made of the “genocide” of Christians that precipitated defensive action.

The murder of six million Jews is genocide.

The slaughter of millions of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians genocide of millions is “genocide.” But do not dare use that word. You can’t call the Islamic slaughter of millions “genocide” because …….. it will offend the ummah. As for Jeff the JINO, Jews must protect ourselves from these enemies (cowardly liars)  masquerading as landsmen.

For the First Time upon the Capture of a Wanted Serb, a News Broadcast Questions the Evidence Julia Gorin

OK, so it’s “Russia Today” — and will therefore be blindly dismissed by most Americans — but I nonetheless have to take note of the fact that this is the first time, to my knowledge, that any news broadcast has had the audacity to report the paltriness of the evidence against an accused Serb upon his capture, rather than “tastefully” joining in on the anti-Serb wilding.

This means the information is finally getting out, including the fact that DNA CANNOT tell you the cause or manner of death. Here are the RT broadcasts, with the highlights appearing in print:

“Tribunal toys with body of evidence in Mladic case

REPORTER: …The Hague tribunal does have a lot of evidence regarding the massacre, but is all of it valid? […]

STEFAN KARGANOVIC (of the Srebrenica Historical Project): The forensic evidence certainly does not support the extravagant charges of 8,000 victims, and much of the evidence of legitimate combat deaths that occurred during that period is studiously ignored by the Hague tribunal and by the press because they have to do it if they are to bolster the number of casualties to come somewhat closer to the target figure of 8,000.

REPORTER: There are questions about the way the evidence has been interpreted. For instance with the autopsy reports. The ICTY presents 3,568 reports as corresponding to 3,568 bodies. But many researchers who went through the files say most of them are body parts, which means a lot less [sic: fewer] people.
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ALEKSANDAR PAVIC (Balkans and ICTY observer): The Hague always has kind of done things as they go along. It’s been an improvisation. They’ve changed indictments on people. They’ve written indictments on people who have actually been already exported to the Hague. Meaning, first you get arrested and then you get an indictment. That’s the way the Hague works. So it won’t be a surprise if they adjust the indictment a few more times. They did it with Milosevic, they did it with others, they’ve done it with Seselj. So it’s just standard procedure with the Hague tribunal.
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REPORTER: So the ICTY may well find itself in a tight spot again. More and more people are criticizing their lack of objectivity, and they have yet to complete a high-profile case…

Next was a June 4 broadcast, which appeared in two different edits:

 

 

REPORTER: …Despite the claims of 8,000 murdered men and boys, many of those who have studied those documents say that most of the reports actually concern body parts. They also say that there is no discernible way to determine which of those people died as a result of the Balkans war.

MARKO GASIC (Balkans expert): Those original figures of 8,000 came about from the Izetbegovic Islamist side. They were prepared in advance. Thousands of people were hidden, soldiers, and redrafted back into the Bosnian Islamist forces without their families even being informed. So there is certainly a great deal of exaggeration in this figure…This tribunal, you should remember, is not a court — it is a tribunal, with all the dubious ad-hoc quasi-legal procedures that that can involve. The Guantanamo Bay of Europe where people are held for years without trial, waiting for trial, when their verdict is known in advance. In fact, it’s even worse than the Guantanamo Bay of Europe, because at least there at Guantanamo Bay the judges know what the rules are. At the Hague tribunal, the kangaroo court, the rules are worked out as they go along, and always at the expense of the Serbs. […]

Note: I’ve never been too concerned with the Guantanamo Bay facility or how the “people” there are adjudicated; however, I appreciate Mr. Gasic being honest enough to at least make the distinction he does.

The other edit:

…GASIC (holding up a few documents): Here you have pictures of people’s graves who were on the list in the Srebrenica Missing, as it were, and they died in previous years. Or there are people here, again who died in previous years, who are on the Srebrenica list of missing-presumed-killed by the Serbs.
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REPORTER: It’s impossible to talk about Srebrenica and not mention all the other atrocities that took place here. This is Srebrenica; just a few miles out is the village of Kravica where Bosnian-Muslim general Naser Oric literally wiped out the entire village. Throughout two years, Naser Oric tore through the region of Sreb destroying at least 150 villages and massacring over 3500 people, so the case against Mladic…does seem to be biased…The very prominent cases of course concerned mostly Serb generals….[Oric] was cleared by the Hague tribunal of all charges, so these fears of the Hague’s inability to be objective do seem to be substantiated.

The reporter also makes the key point that the Hague, for all the universally deferential citing of its rulings and “judgments” — as if they’re legally legitimate and adhere to a Western understanding of jurisprudence — is a political tool, not a legal one.

The only additional point I would make about the reporting is that she cites the “3,500″ figure in reference to the number of Serbs killed in and around Srebrenica. The opposing figure is closer to 1,500, and what accounts for the difference is something Stefan Karganovic — who goes with the smaller figure — explained to me. The higher figure includes the deaths at Bratunac in 1992, before the Srebrenica enclave was set up and therefore a separate chapter, as he sees it:

I was raised in the US and everything I do I try to be fair and honest about it, and not just push a tribal “truth.” Bratunac was under Serbian control throughout the war, although Moslem lines were just a short walk away. The only time Bratunac Serbs paid with their lives was in 1992 when Moslems, who had been arming themselves way before the conflict actually started, tried to stage an armed takeover there, as they did in a number of other communities, and failed. But that was before the Srebrenica enclave was set up and the carnage in the villages surrounding Srebrenica began. Our focus is on deaths that resulted from attacks originating from Srebrenica. I am trying to keep things separate on the Serbian side, just as I am insisting that Moslems keep their legitimate column casualties separate from execution victims. Balkan people are great at twisting everything to fit their agenda, but I was not brought up in the Balkans.

Meanwhile, I learned yesterday that even with all the pro-Muslim shenanigans at the Hague for the past 20 years, the Congress of North American Bosniaks, the Institute for Genocide Research Canada (IRGC), and the Australian Council of Bosnian Herzegovina Organizations (ACBHO) “request that the ICTY Court remove Judge Flügge from his role in the proceedings against Ratko Mladic, or in any case dealing specifically with charges of genocide. We are surprised that Judge Flügge would be once again assigned to a case dealing with charges of genocide due to his unapologetic comments in 2009 in the German weekly magazine “Der Spiegel” in which he openly questioned the classification of Srebrenica genocide.”

Now, if you read the Der Spiegel story, you’ll see that the judge holds all the typical, “correct,” pro-Muslim opinions about the Balkans wars. Not good enough! Why? Because he said it’s not any better to kill people because they all happen to be in a particular location than to kill them because of who they are — basically a statement against the legal classification “hate crime.” Which, if one thinks back a decade, had a lot of opponents who questioned whether the law should consider it worse to kill someone because you hate him than because the victim is, for example, elderly and an easy target to rob and kill.

But, again, the Muslims desperately need their genocide, and Flugge has the gall to deprive them of it. Not only did the judge commit the unforgivable sin, he added insult to injury by adding, “Strictly speaking, the term genocide only fits to the Holocaust.” Which, off the bat, negates the whole point of the whole exercise of the hard-won “genocide.” (Equal political footing with Jews, whom they see as deriving much of their sympathy and clout from the Holocaust.)

Never mind that he still grants them mass murder, a greater crime than what actually happened, and never mind that everything has been going their way for 20 years at the Hague — this guy’s gotta go!

Joining this judge in running afoul of Bosnian Muslims is an Ottawa Sun columnist named Michael Coren, against whom one of the above-named groups (IRGC) sent a letter of protest to the editors. Never mind that his Thursday column began with the following dutiful paragraph:

I don’t think any civilized and informed person either condemns or doubts the reason why Ratko Mladic was arrested by Serbian security forces, and handed over to an international war crimes trial in The Hague. He is alleged to have led a force that slaughtered 8,000 Bosnian Muslim men and boys, and almost certainly did so.

It’s what the rest of his article showed he understood, that got to them:

Why are the Serbs the only ones targeted, [Mladic supporters] say, and why does the west, for example, not deal with the Islamic terror groups in Kosovo, and with Serbs being pushed from their homes in that troubled region?

They have a point. Washington and Europe have been enormously selective in their morality, and some of this is likely connected to the Americans and British in particular wanting to show the Islamic world that they care for the safety and plight of the world’s Muslims.

If so, they are incredibly naive.

Various Arab leaders may talk about the suffering of their fellow Muslims, but it is in fact their fellow Muslims who they themselves treat so badly on a regular basis.

The Serbian Orthodox nationalist Mladic may well have murdered 8,000 Muslims in Bosnia, but Hafez al-Assad, the father of the current Syrian leader, killed more Muslims than that in a single day when he wanted to demonstrate his authority and dissuade his people from revolution.

Boy Assad, the weak son, has probably gone past the 1,000 mark now, as he kills innocent people who even attend a funeral for a fallen protestor.

The Jordanian government is one of the more reasonable in the Islamic world, but in 1970 it killed more than 10,000 Palestinians, and the Arab nationalist icon General Nasser gassed entire villages in Yemen…The arrest of a Serb warlord is irrelevant to people who have no concern for their own, let alone for others.
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If I were a Serb, I’d feel a little angry. As an unaligned commentator, I’m absolutely disgusted.

What Flugge and Coren seem to be almost alone in not having learned: Even minimal dissent will not be tolerated. Look around, guys — do you see any anywhere? That’s why even non-dissenting dissent like yours has kicked up a shit storm.

As for you specifically, Coren: No one has ever had the audacity to put themselves in the Serbs’ shoes, so don’t think of starting now. Speaking of which, why are you trying to do your own thinking on this? It’s been done for you, and so far everyone’s happy with it.

In closing, let’s notice that Coren has hit on yet another Israel-Serbia commonality: the fixation on Israeli/Serb behavior in the face of incomparably more numerous and heinous crimes by truly terrifying regimes, most notably those of Muslim governments against Muslims.

That Coren was able to notice in regard to Serbia what so far has only been noticed in regard to Israel is to his additional credit

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/06/for-the-first-time-upon-the-capture-of-a-wanted-serb-a-news-broadcast-questions-the-evidence.html

http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2644

The key Germinal Civilov book about Erdemovic is on

http://www.scribd.com/doc/45003051/Srebrenica-The-Star-Witness-Germinal-Civikov-Edward-S-Herman-Stefan-Karganovic

This book is brilliant. It details basically the making of a supergrass. The name of the supergrass who is so critical to the whole Srebrenica Massacre story and Case in the Hague is Drazen Erdemovic.

Without the “evidence” of this supergrass, as the weighty and respectable Dutch Report made clear, there is not one iota of evidence that the Serb soldiers on capturing Srebrenica murdered a single Muslim. They fought a battle yes, but carried out murders…no!

Mladic and all the other Serb prisoners in the Hague and elsewhere are innocent. They must be freed at once.

Meanwhile Nasir Oric and other Jihadists are walking about ikn freedom, with heads held high, protected by the international lie machine, the same lie machine that is threatening Mubarak with execution at the hands of The Muslim Brotherhood, and threatening thanks to Cameron et al the very life of Muammar Gadhafi, in the cruel bombing (by the great RAF) of Tripoli…IT IS ALL THE SAME BATTLE

THE WHOLE OF THE SREBRENICA MASSACRE HOAX WAS BASED ON THE “EVIDENCE” OF A SUPERGRASS

The BBC World Service this morning had Ed Vulliamy on the panel to discuss world affairs but he was really there because of the arrest of Ratco Mladic, and to regurgitate his lies about the conflict.

 

It will come as no surprise that Vulliamy did not deal with the main event since his former reporting.

 

That event was the publication of Civikov’s book.

 

As 4international stated in yesterday’s article the Civikov book focuses in on one key element, that is that the ONLY evidence which showed that there was a “massacre” in Srebrenica is the “evidence” of a supergrass called Drazen Erdymovic

 

A supergrass is a man or woman who has been bought and paid for by the police. The prosecutors in The Hague Kangaroo Court who bought and paid for Erdymovic hence feed the evidence in and one end and this evidence simply comes out the other.

 

In our article on 4international yesterday this in the context of The Hague Kangaroo Court meant:

 

1. Since Erdymovic did not murder all of those 1200 people on that farm on his own, but had 7 accomplices, plus two higher up in command, then the big question is why all of those murderers have been living such unmolested lives then and now. His accomplices have never been even questioned. This amazed them and it even amazed Erdymovic!
2. And this is a pattern of course with supergrass trials. The same happened in the trials in Northern Ireland in which the star was Christopher Black. The police only need the one supergrass. Any other intrusion into his evidence would really not only be superfluous to the narrative they are producing, but downright dangerous, for obvious reasons. It is like the mechanics of winding up a puppet, imagine having to repeat that performance with 7 puppets. Can’t be done.

The whole of the Srebrenica narrative stinks to high heaven.

 

That is precisely why the champion sneerer of the western world, Ed Vulliamy, was on the BBC panel this morning. Vulliamy spent the whole programme sneering at the Serbs and asserting that the Serbs who defend Mladic have not “changed”.

 

So what does Ed Vulliamy do with the startling research by Civikov. Easy answer. He hides it.

 

Under no condition can that book of Civikov be referenced in any discussion anywhere.

 

The same tone yesterday was set by the political liars on Harry’s Place website, a website based in London and frequented by many of these paid journalistic hacks like Vulliamy. It headlined its article with “Got the bastard!” The great British legal system of habeas Corpus, innocent until proven guilty, examine all of the evidence carefully, fairly and dispassionately…right out the window.

 

Something else ios going on beyond Bosnia and beyond Srebrenica. What is highlighted by this peculiar behaviour as in Harry’s Place is the political and moral degeneration of a whole layer in society. That is actually the same social strata that followed Hitler in Germany

 

This social layer is out of the English middle class, is hostile to the main forces of the working class on the one hand, and American’s fight to defend the First Amendment on the other.

This is why Obama is their leader and why they are so hateful towards George W. Bush, not because Bush was in an alliance with Islam, which for most of his time in office he was, but because they perceived him as fighting Islam.

 

Of course Ratko Mladic is right on all counts. As his son and lawyer say he needs an independent medical examination, to assess the effects of strokes which he has had.

 

Naturally Ed Vulliamy sneered at this!

 

He is also right as his lawyer says to maintain that he harmed nobody in malice, that all he is guilty of is to defend his own Christian Serbs and other minorities, including a Muslim minority which was in opposition to Izetbegovic and the Jihad. Mladic was engaged in a war which was not of his making or choosing but was the result of the alliance of US and EU Imperialism’s alliance with the Muslim Jihad

 

Mladic is also right to assert through his lawyer that he has no chance of a fair trial in The Hague. It is after all The Hague Kangaroo Court.

 

THERE IS NO END TO THE ROTTING CRUELTY OF THIS MEDIA

by Felix Quigley

August 13

In investigating the Srebrenica Hoax massacre I did a personal investigation of all the articles which were published by the Irish Newspaper of record, The Irish Times, on the story.

I found that there were several hundreds of major articles (excluding many other references etc…these were major articles) published since about 2 months following the Srebrenica Massacre (Hoax). All of these articles took it as gospel that the story was true. No evidence was ever produced. Just a bare statement of “fact”.

Since Ireland is rather small, since the Irish Times is just ONE outlet, I imagine that in the whole world this Hoax Story of Srebrenica was repeated at least one million times, perhaps many millions of times.

Truly the Media is a major issue which is at the beck and call of Imperialism and of Fascism.

The Media has become a vast problem.

We also did a review of other Hoax stories in order to place Srebrenica in its context a few weeks ago. For example we wrote:

On the El Durra issue  ” scenes of Palestinian youth faking being shot, falling in agony, then getting up, all to the applause of many Palestinian onlookers. That is the context in which the supposed El Durra was shot. All a total fake. But not many people even today know it was a fake. The Media does not tell them. The original image lives on. ”

See original

https://4international.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/srebrenica-hoaxwe-live-in-the-era-of-big-lie-massacre-stories/

Byzantine Blog has done a great job in exposing this lying Media, all of them, in studying these photos

We have already covered two of the photos from Reuters they cover

See https://4international.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/media-lies-against-russia-bring-to-mind-the-el-durra-hoax/

These following two pictures also from the wonderful Byzantine Blog should in fact be required study for every youth who attends every school or college today. The story that they tell about our lying Media can only but amaze!

SREBRENICA…MAY THE G-DS HONEST TRUTH SET US ALL FREE

by Felix Quigley

July 25, 2008

(in association with some very valuable Jewish and Serb friends)

 

I have my own special angle on what has become known as THE Srebrenica Massacre. The more threadbare is the position of your political enemy, then the more outlandish needs to be the Big Lie in response to that weak and threadbare position.

And believe me the people who have promoted the claim that the Serb Army carried out a massacre of Muslims in the town of Srebrenica in Bosnia-Herzegovina in the year of 1995 have really got a very weak case. No, please correct that, they have got no case whatsoever.

You have heard of lies! This case is about lies. You have heard of the Big Lie! This case is the perfect example of same. When people in the future history of mankind think of the name Srebrenica they will not think that a massacre happened there by Serbs on Muslim civilians, but that a Big Lie was enacted there.

It is with great, great pleasure that I reproduce this article which first appeared on the famous JTF Jewish website:

[begin to read this great and succinct study of the Big Lie of the Srebrenica Massacre here]

The Massive Hitler style “Big Lie” spread by the US and NATO Imperialist Globalists -and their paid media prostitutes – about what happened in Srebrenica from 1992 to 1995.

Shalom & Greetings to all the wonderful people at JTF.

There have been some comments here by certain well meaning people on JTF trying to defend the Bosnian Serbs by saying that the Serbs only “massacred” such and such number of Bosnian Muslims.This is a very dangerous – and ultimately self-defeating – way of attempting to defend true history -and with it, the heroic Serbs.

For example, one very well meaning and intelligent person here by the name of George wrote the following:

“…even UN Investigation cannot prove that no more than 2,200 muslims were massacred.”

This is not correct. Those 2,200 bodies are not even identified by DNA analysis as conclusively proven to be Bosnian Muslims.