SREBRENICA: BOSNIAN MUSLIM JIHAD KILLINGS OF 3,500 CHRISTIANS

4international is going to have another look at this so called “Srebrenica Massacre”. We reprint this article to get the ball rolling, but this is only the start. I am prepared to give credit where credit is due but also to be critical of everything written.

I will add my comments to this article later. I am looking closely at the end of the article which seems to be devoid of revolutionary strategy and tactics as to how to fight the NATO/JIHAD alliance

 

Srebrenica: Bosnian Muslim Jihad killings of 3,500 Christians

Jun 12, 2011

By Lee Jay Walker from Modern Tokyo Times |

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The image of Srebrenica tells us more about the reality of the majority of the media and of course the “Muslim victim card” is being used in order to cleanse the Bosniak Muslims. After all, from enslaving Orthodox Christians during their brotherly love with the Turkish slave masters of the Ottoman Empire to having Muslim SS units who supported Adolf Hitler; then “victimhood” is needed in order to justify their history and culture.
 
Of course the wishy-washy brigade will tell us that the Ottoman period was enlightened and that the system of taking the eldest Christian boy (devshirme system) in the Balkans and converting them to Islam was noble.  Yes, slavery in the modern era being justified and not mere slavery because the system meant that they would kill their own people in the name of Islam after being indoctrinated by Islamists in the Ottoman Empire.

Bosnian Muslim government Jihad forcesBosnian Muslim government Jihad forces

However, the liberal agenda tells us that Europe owes so much to Islam.  Strange because Islam took the sword to Europe and enslaved and colonized and this reality shames historians and commentators who manipulate history.  After all, if people stated that the Atlantic slave trade was enlightening then people would be rightly condemned. However, when scholars and journalist speak about a tolerant Islamic Ottoman Empire or about their man made multi-religious Bosnia then the elites clap in admiration while leaders in Mecca dream about Islamization by stealth jihad.
 
Of course even the Atlantic trade route is also manipulated because little is said about the Arab and Turkish enslavement of Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe.  These tens of millions of slaves do not count and it would not suit the agenda to mention white slaves and Hindu slaves.
 
The Orthodox Christian world along with Africa and the Hindu world suffered so much at the hands of Islamic slavery and Protestant and Catholic imperialism which also enslaved.  This reality is forgotten and it appears that even in recent times that Orthodox Christians and Hindus do not count.
 
After all, three wars in the Balkans since the 1970s in Bosnia, Cyprus and Kosovo and every time the West supported Islam. Also, the Turkish genocide which killed millions of Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks, is still not recognized despite several million Christians being slaughtered in 1915 and the following years (major pogroms took place also before this date).
 
Similarly, the de-Hinduization of Kashmir, Bangladesh and Pakistan does not seem to hit the headlines in modern times.  Therefore, while the Muslim population remains strong in India and is growing the Hindus of Bangladesh, Kashmir and Pakistan are in free fall in percentage terms.
 
Alas, it appears that Orthodox Christians and Hindus don’t count!
 
Turning back to Srebrenica and the reality or unreality of what really happened.  After all, Bosnian Muslims have to justify their past misdeeds and Western powers need to justify killing from the air during the bombing of Serbia.
 
You see, when NATO bombing attacks against mainly civilians took place in Serbia this was deemed to be “Western civilization.” Yes, the overwhelming majority of people killed were not military fighters in the army of Serbia but were civilians and bombing hospitals, the infrastructure and so forth was all justified in the name of “Western civilization.”
 
Strange, because when several million Africans who were mainly Christian or Animist were being killed in Southern Sudan by the Arab Muslim regime then nothing was done.  Therefore, “the double standards” or should I say “no standards” was at work once more and the twisting of history and reality was done in order to suit an agenda.
 
The House of Saud must have been so pleased with both events.  After all, kill millions of African Christians and Animists in Sudan in order to Arabize and Islamize and the West does nothing.  At the same time create two Islamic dominated states in Europe with Kosovo being accomplished and Bosnia being the future hope after the enforced demise of the Bosnian Serb Republic. 
 
This is where Srebrenica suits the agenda in order to cover-up all the misdeeds of past history and this applies to Bosniak Muslim history and the Western bombing of Serbia which enabled a body organ transplanting leadership to take power.
 
SREBRENICA IN ALL ITS COMPLEXITY
 
Before going deeper into what happened in Srebrenica it is important to clarify that thousands of Muslims were killed after Bosnian Serbian forces took Srebrenica.  This applies to not only Muslim soldiers who were killed but also innocent Muslims who were also killed during the mayhem of events. 

Srdja Trifkovic, who is an historian, foreign affairs analyst and respected author, states the following:
“During the Bosnian war between May 1992 and July 1995, several thousand Muslim men lost their lives in Srebrenica and its surroundings. Most of them died in July of 1995 when the enclave fell unexpectedly to the Bosnian Serb Army and the Muslim garrison attempted a breakthrough. Some escaped to the Muslim-held town of Tuzla, 38 miles to the north. Many were killed while fighting their way through; and many others were taken prisoner and executed by the Bosnian Serb army.”
 
Srdja Trifkovic continues by stating that “It is often pointed out that Srebrenica was an UN “protected zone,” but it is seldom noted that the enclave was simultaneously an armed camp used for attacks against Serb villages in the surrounding areas. Muslim General Sefer Halilovic confirmed in his testimony at the Hague Tribunal that there were at least 5,500 Bosnian Army soldiers in Srebrenica after it had obtained the “safe haven” status, and that he had personally arranged numerous deliveries of sophisticated weapons by helicopter.”
 
This statement is important because the Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic, confirms that you had at least 5,500 Bosnian Muslim Army soldiers in Srebrenica.  More important, these fighters had slaughtered more than 3,500 Christians prior to the fall of Srebrenica and this applies to young children, women and the elderly in surrounding villages.
 
Even worse, the so-called safe haven meant that Bosnian Muslim forces would attack outside of the main area of central Srebenica and kill Orthodox Christians. However, they would then return to Srebrenica in order to be protected and to re-enforce their stronghold and this applies to re-arming and so forth.  
 
The UNPROFOR commander, French General Philippe Morillon, testified that the crimes committed by Bosnian Muslim forces were “extraordinary” and made the Serbs’ desire for revenge to be “inevitable.”
 
Philippe Morillon clearly stated the name of the Bosnian Muslim commander Naser Oric who was known for being sadistic.  On February 12 in 2004 at The Hague Tribunal Philippe Morillon testified that Bosnian Muslim forces under Naser Oric “engaged in attacks during Orthodox (Christian) holidays and destroyed villages, massacring all the inhabitants. This created a degree of hatred that was quite extraordinary in the region.”
 
Philippe Morillon is clearly commenting about the massacres of thousands of Orthodox Christians who were killed in the surrounding region.  This applies to Christians being burnt alive, beheaded and so forth.
 
This Srebrenica is about two military forces being the Orthodox Bosnian Christian Serb forces and the Bosnian Muslim forces.  Therefore, the real Srebrenica is very different and if General Ratko Mladic did not have Bosnian Serb units in the region to stem the massacre of Orthodox Christians then the figure of 3,500 deaths would have been even higher.
 
Also, from a military point of view the Bihac Muslims in Western Bosnia under Fikret Abdic had supported the Bosnian Serbs but in time they would be crushed by Bosnian Muslim forces under the Islamist, Alija Izetbegovic. At the same time during the civil war in Croatia the Krajina Serbs would be forced out and many innocent Orthodox Christians would be killed and “cleansed.”
 
Srebrenica was part of a bigger battle and little is said about Serbian Christian areas in Sarajevo which were taken by Islamist military forces under Alija Izetbegovic. Therefore, not only had Srebrenica Muslim forces killed and slaughtered thousands of innocent Orthodox Christians in the surrounding region; but their brutality and numbers of more than 5,500 military Muslim soldiers meant that Bosnian Serb units were being pinned down.
 
It was a situation that was leading to vented up hanger and hatred.  After all, why wasn’t Krajina a protected area for Orthodox Christian Serbs and the same applies to Bihac where Muslims were moderate and wanted protection from Bosnian Islamist forces under Alija Izetbegovic….why weren’t these areas protected?
 
In fact, not only were the protected safe havens biased towards the Muslims who supported the Islamist Alija Izetbegovic; but at the same time thousands of international Islamists were allowed to enter Bosnia in order to slit the throats of Orthodox Christians and Catholic Christians because to international Islamists the war had a different meaning because it was an Islamic Jihad in their eyes.
 
Not only this, Bill Clinton who supported the Islamists who were given tacit approval to slaughter Orthodox Christians had a double agenda.  This applies to allowing thousands of international Islamists into Bosnia and at the same time to build up both Croatian Catholic units and the Bosnian Muslim Islamist leadership of Alija Izetbegovic.
 
Time was not on the side of the Bosnian Christian Serbs and in this sense General Ratko Mladic is being tried in the courts of The Hague because he had held out against a huge united and international agenda.  Indeed, for the Bosnian Serbs to have held out and maintain a vast area of Bosnia is remarkable given the fact that America, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and many others, alongside international Islamists like Al Qaeda, had all worked together in order to defeat the Bosnian Serbs.
 
Major-General (Ret) Lewis Mackenzie who is a retired Canadian general also raises serious doubts about so-called “good” and “evil.” In his article called
“The real story behind Srebrenica.  The massacre in the UN ‘safe haven’ was not a black and white event,” which was published in The Globe and Mail (July 14, 2005), he clearly highlights neglected areas.
 
Major General (Ret) Lewis MacKenzie states the following:
 
“As the Bosnian Muslim fighters became better equipped and trained, they started to venture outside Srebrenica, burning Serb villages and killing their occupants before quickly withdrawing to the security provided by the UN’s safe haven. These attacks reached a crescendo in 1994 and carried on into early 1995 after the Canadian infantry company that had been there for a year was replaced by a larger Dutch contingent.”
 
“The Bosnian Serbs might have had the heaviest weapons, but the Bosnian Muslims matched them in infantry skills that were much in demand in the rugged terrain around Srebrenica. As the snow cleared in the spring of 1995, it became obvious to Nasar Oric, the man who led the Bosnian Muslim fighters that the Bosnian Serb army was going to attack Srebrenica to stop him from attacking Serb villages. So he and a large number of his fighters slipped out of town. Srebrenica was left undefended with the strategic thought that, if the Serbs attacked an undefended town, surely that would cause NATO and the UN to agree that NATO air strikes against the Serbs were justified. And so the Bosnian Serb army strolled into Srebrenica without opposition.”
 
General Morillon bluntly states that “Naser Oric was a warlord who reigned by terror in his area and over the population itself. I think that he realized that these were the rules of this horrific war, that he could not allow himself to take prisoners. According to my recollection, he didn’t even look for an excuse. It was simply a statement: One can’t be bothered with prisoners.”
 
Morillon also recounts how “the Serbs took me to a village to show me the evacuation of the bodies of the inhabitants that had been thrown into a hole, a village close to Bratunac. And this made me understand the degree to which this infernal situation of blood and vengeance […] led to a situation when I personally feared that the worst would happen if the Serbs of Bosnia managed to enter the enclaves and Srebrenica.”
 
“I feared that the Serbs, the local Serbs, the Serbs of Bratunac, these militiamen, they wanted to take their revenge for everything that they attributed to Naser Oric. It wasn’t just Naser Oric that they wanted to revenge, take their revenge on; they wanted to revenge their dead on Orthodox Christmas.”
 
It is clear that the Bosnian Muslim forces and Srebrenica is not the “innocent Muslim lamb” which is being told; on the contrary “Srebrenica was a fortified Islamic stronghold which butchered and slaughtered innocent Orthodox Christians in the surrounding region.”
 
Also, events on the ground were changing rapidly and this applies to Bihac, Mostar, Krajina and many parts of Bosnia and Croatia. In the ensuing mayhem massacres on all sides took place and in Bihac it was local Muslims who were killed by Islamic forces which supported Alija Izetbegovic.
 
Indeed, it is strange that Alija Izetbegovic and Muslim units cared so much about crushing the moderate Muslims of Bihac when it was claimed that they were overstretched and facing genocide.  However, this is a different issue but interesting all the same because it shows you the limitations of many journalists who followed the “Islamist Alija Izetbegovic party line” and it shatters the myth because Serbian forces had helped the Muslims of Bihac.
 
Lord Owen also vindicates what General Morillon stated because on page 143 of his book, Balkan Odyssey, the respected Lord Owen comments that “On 16 April I spoke on the telephone to President Milosevic about my anxiety that, despite repeated assurances from Dr. Karadzic that he had no intention of taking Srebrenica, the Bosnian Serb army was now proceeding to do just that. The pocket was greatly reduced in size. I had rarely heard Milosevic so exasperated, but also so worried: he feared that if the Bosnian Serb troops entered Srebrenica there would be a bloodbath because of the tremendous bad blood that existed between the two armies. The Bosnian Serbs held the young Muslim commander in Srebrenica, Naser Oric, responsible for a massacre near Bratunac in December 1992 in which many Serb civilians had been killed. Milosevic believed it would be a great mistake for the Bosnian Serbs to take Srebrenica and promised to tell Karadzic so.”
 
In a past article I state that “I have given quotes from people who were on the ground and from people who know a lot about the real events of Bosnia and Srebrenica.  It would be difficult to claim that Lord Owen, General Morillon, and Lewis MacKenzie, are pro-Serbian or that they are holocaust deniers.”
 
“Therefore, it is clear that “the real Srebrenica” is not being told and the same applies to the “hidden Islamic jihad” which took place during the civil war and how ex-President Bill Clinton gave the green light to Islamists from all over the world to enter Bosnia.”
 
Srebrenica should be remembered but it should be remembered in its duality and this applies to thousands of innocent Orthodox Christians and Muslims who were killed by both sides.  It also should be remembered that Bosnian Muslim forces had slaughtered thousands of Christians first in the surrounding region of Srebrenica and that the “safe haven” was abused and generals from the international community who were on the ground state this clearly and Morillon testified in court.
 
Lewis MacKenzie comments that “two wrongs never made a right, but those moments in history that shame us all because of our indifference should not be viewed in isolation without the context that created them.”
 
With this powerful comment in mind and the complex nature of Bosnia and Croatia and the inner-struggle between the Muslim community in Bihac against the Islamist Alija Izetbegovic; alongside the international Islamist movement and Al Qaeda being involved; and the arming of Bosnian Muslim forces and Croatia by America, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and others. Then Srebrenica can’t be talked about by one single event because what happened before and the complexity of the civil wars means that the entire picture must be seen and the “evil and hatred” which existed was based on events prior to Bosnian Serb forces entering Srebrenica. 
 
In all civil wars you have massacres and no side is innocent and anybody who says differently is biased to the extreme.  If you view Hiroshima and Nagasaki and ignore events prior to this and the carpet bombing of Germany and Japan where millions were killed; then all the massacres which took place by Germany and Japan will not be viewed and in isolation you have a mass distortion of reality.
 
This is what is happening about Srebrenica; a huge distortion of reality and past events are being ignored and manipulated to an extreme point of view and which is anti-Serbian. 
 
Ratko Mladic from a Bosnian Serb point of view held out against multiple forces and this applies to the Bosnian Muslim forces, Catholic Croatian forces, international Islamists and nations like America, Iran, and Saudi Arabia who were re-arming the Croatians and Bosnian Muslim forces who supported Alija Izetbegovic.
 
If genuine healing is to take place or if the truth counts for anything; then Srebrenica should be remembered for the fallen on all sides.
 
It is not good enough to say that the deaths of more than 3,500 Orthodox Christians don’t count and to ignore the fact that the main massacres which took place in the region had been started by Bosnian Muslim forces.
 
A joint memorial would indicate that both sides killed innocents in and surrounding Srebrenica.  The massacre of innocent Christians and Muslims is a fact but the “Muslim victim card” and the “international community” desire to “cleanse their role in Srebrenica.”

LIARS OF HARRY’S PLACE…SCARED STIFF OVER IMPLICATIONS OF CIVIKOV BOOK ON THE SREBRENICA HOAX

The liars at Harry’s place are continuing to hide the vital book on Srebrenica by Civikov

 

NAME OF THIS GUY IS Aymenn Jawad Al Tamimi

 

Not one word of Civikov in his article on

 http://hurryupharry.org/2011/06/01/ratko-mladic-and-myths-of-the-bosnian-war/

 

We found out that this guy did not answer basic questions on Jihadwatch. Now he appears on Harry’s Place, still not answering any questions, this time about the questions posed by Civikov’s book

When you find a book being obscured you know there is something rotten

 

Anyway his name is

 

You will find in Civikov important information on how the Prosecution at the ICTY constructed their case that the Serbs murdered 8000 in Srebrenica.

 

It appears that the prosecution case was based on the evidence of little more than a sujpergrass, who goes by the name of Drazen Erdemovic

 

The book by Germinal Civikov is important and you will find important information on pages 26 and 27

 

 

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51220592/Germinal-Civikov-Srebrenica-Star-Witness

 

 

 

According to Erdemovic he joined 7 others at a farm and in charge was Commander Branjo Gojkovic

 

 

From 10.00am until 3pm they shot 1200 civilians

 

 

It has been questioned by Civikov if this was physically possible as the prisoners arrived by bus and were shot in batches…they certainly had to be efficient

 

That is not my question though.

 

My question is why was commander Branjo Gojkovic not charged at the ICTY, and not even questioned it seems?

 

Nor any of the other 7 associates of Erdemovic

 

Could the answer be that Erdemovic has the same stature as that other well known supergrass Christopher Black of North of Ireland record.

 

The implication being that the evidence of supergrass is by its very nature bought and paid for, and exists inside a sealed system.

 

In other words the supergrass becomes the empty vessel of the prosecution into which they pour the evidence, whatever evidence they see fit to pour.

 

They did not prosecute the other “murderers”, of 1200 souls!!!, because they did not wish any cross contamination or contradictions hard to explain to arise.

 

This is the strangest dammed thing that you ever experienced in the world of law and prosecution. Or anywhere.

 

The crime in question as far as the Hague kangaroo Court…the murder by Serbs of 1200 Muslims, at a lonely farm, by shooting in batches

 

The Prosecution at the Hague know then names of all 7 Serb soldiers and the 2 superior officers.

 

They pick one of these, an unstable character with a bad past. They prosecute only this guy…Erdemovic of course.

 

Why not follow them all? the crime is not small, 12oo Muslims.

 

They just go for one guy, who is not even in command, but appears as a reluctant killer, according to himself.

 

Why are the rest of the 7 and the 2 higher up walking around free as the birds?

 

These are the questions that Civikov, based on the evidence which was given at the ICTY itself, asks

 

Perhaps they thought that the crime, the killing of the 1200, was not so big, but that is an ABSURD IDEA.

 

The whole programme of the ICTY is that it was a monstrous crime.

 

The writers and commenters on Harry’s Place certainly think so and their invective against the bestial Serbs is really something.

 

One called Alex mcPherson draws a parallel from this killing of 1200 to the kiolling of a million Jews in open field situation pre Wannsee

 

So they know a lot these guys in Harry’s Place.

 

But they do not seem to know enough to be able to answer the simple question posed by Civilov

 

Why did they prosecute only Erdemovic?

 

A simple question but very difficult for these liars, professional liars, to answer.

THE GREAT GRAND HOAX OF SREBRENICA…HOW THEY MADE PATHOLOGICAL LYING INTO AN ART FORM

A READER WRITES TO 4INTERNATIONAL:

 

Before that letter let’s put this in context

 

This letter to 4international is based on how reality always works itself out and in the end does contradict the lies of those who construct conspiracies.

As has been noted very often the main lie about Srebrenica was the number 8000. Many have wondered “Why 8000?”

In this sense the number means little. What gives meaning to the whole thing is the non-stop propaganda churned out by the Media around this event

Remember that I looked into how the Irish Times treated the story. For months on The Irish Times there was no mention at all of any massacre, never mind numbers.

Then as if from nowhere this figure of 8000 began to be included in stories.

I noted at that time something like 3 main stories per fortnight on The Srebrenica Massacre. Given that was repeated in all of this worldwide Media you have literally hundreds of thousands, maybe more, of this story of 8000 massacred in Srebrenica, until the point of saturation is reached where it is taken as something akin to the Four Gospels of Christian tradition

But there was a real history in Srebrenica.

The US did need the creation of a “massacre” in order to swing American public opinion behind US full intervention, to attack Serbia and to remove the Serbs as an oppositional force.

And this need to intervene, a neocons project as part of a much wider neocons project, led on to these actions in Srebrenica.

Keep that in mind A MASSACRE HAD TO BE CREATED

It could be a REAL MASSACRE or a VIRTUAL MASSACRE

Remember that I read the official Dutch report on Srebrenica (Dutch report because Dutch Soldiers were widely blamed) and that report made up by very sober Dutch investigative and learned types stated clearly that they found no evidence that the Serb soldiers murdered anybody in malice. I stand by that position.

As to the evidence of Erdymovic, well he was a supergrass, bought, paid for, owned, by the Hague Liars

Remember that if as I think the Serb soldiers killed nobody in malice (in battle of course yes) that the trap was still sprung on the Serbs and then all the liars could go to work

Our reader here for one thing shows that there was a real split in the ranks of the Muslims, that the Muslim leaders in Srebrenica felt betrayed by Izetbegovic and Oric, and that they reacted to this betrayal and slander against them by spilling the beans on that Clinton proposal to Izetbegovic in 1993 to “create” a massacre.

Dear Mr. Quigley,

It’s interesting to go back to these original newspaper articles from the moslem side to see how the Western political and media establishment made pathological lying into an art form.

BOSNIAN MUSLIM NEWSPAPER 1998

<b>”5,000 Muslim Lives for Military Intervention”</b>

(Bosnian moslem newspaper) Dani, Sarajevo, Bosnia-Hercegovina, June 22 1998
Interview with Hakija Meholjic (Moslem), president of Social Democratic Party for Srebrenica, by (Dani reporter) Hasan Hadzic (Moslem)
Hakija Meholjic: We were received there by President Izetbegovic, and immediately after the welcome he asked us: <i>”What do you think about the swap of Srebrenica for Vogosca [a Sarajevo suburb]?”</i> There was a silence for a while and then I said: <i>”Mr. President, if this is a done thing, then you should not have invited us here, because we have to return and face the people and personally accept the burden of that decision.”</i>

Hasan Hadzic: So you rejected Izetbegovic’s decision?

Hakija Meholjic: We rejected it without any discussion. Then he (Izetbegovic) said:

<b><i>”You know, I was offered by Clinton in April 1993 (after the fall of Cerska and Konjevic Polje) that the Chetnik(Bosnian Serb) forces enter Srebrenica, carry out a slaughter of 5,000 Muslims, and then there will be a military intervention.” </b></i>Our delegation was composed of nine people, one among us was from Bratunac and unfortunately he is the only one not alive now, but all the others from the delegation are alive and can confirm this.

http://www.ex-yupress.com/dani/dani2.html

 
JANUARY 1999 INTERVIEW WITH BOSNIAN MUSLIM NEWSPAPER

In a January 18th, 1999 interview with (Bosnian Moslem newspaper) ‘DANI’, Nesib Buric, former member of an ARBiH (Moslem) battalion stationed in Srebrenica, and now Deputy Mayor for Social Security of War Veterans and Disabled Persons in Srebrenica, clearly summed-up the perspective of the local Srebrenica (Moslem) faction within the ARBiH:
<b>”Humane Transfer of Population”</b>

Dani, Sarajevo, Bosnia-Hercegovina, January 18 1999
by Hasan Hadzic (Moslem reporter)

Nesib Buric: “I know that <b>they are now trying to humiliate people from Srebrenica and spread rumors that we supposedly did not fight and were slain while running away from Srebrenica. No one can deny that in the Srebrenica municipality there are 2,000 buried fighters. </b>No one can deny that we set up a large free territory. However, without assistance from outside we could not hold out for long surrounded by the enemy. <b>You can write that I absolutely support the statement by Hakija Meholjic that we were betrayed. </b>Why does not someone refute his assertions with arguments? Instead they are using slander and saying that Hakija was like this and like that. Hakija was among the first people in Srebrenica to pick up a rifle and work on the organization of the resistance. Therefore, he has the right to speak up. <b>Ibran Mustafic and those women do not have the right to make lists for the Hague Tribunal. They do not have any evidence for that.</b> In Srebrenica, Ibran refused to fight and lead a brigade, but turned to his prewar flirt with politics. As far as Hakija is concerned, you can write that every single child from Srebrenica agrees with his statement.”

http://www.ex-yupress.com/dani/dani6.html

Original text in Serbo-Croatian can be read at http://www.bhdani.com/arhiva/1999/93/tekst393.htm

WHICH ALL ADDS UP TO:

In short the Islamist veterans from Srebrenica make a three-fold claim, that:

1) A high-level political decision was made between the leadership in Sarajevo and the Clinton Administration on the fate of the Srebrenica enclave,

2) That the ARBiH militants in the enclave were betrayed by the Izetbegovic regime during the critical days in mid-June 1995 when the enclave was recaptured by the Bosnian Serb army, and that

3) Those killed in Srebrenica were ARBiH soldiers who died during firefights while defending their positions, not fleeing civilians.

http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/kilibarda/islamist.htm
 

OUR READER ADDS:

Note by me: If the moslem side claims 2,000 fighters killed in battle in Srebrenica during the previous months and assuming this is true and the Western establishment say they have found 1,900 bodies so far (lets assume for the sake of argument they were all identified as moslems) then that fits fairly well.

    The 3,800 Serbian civilians massacred on the other hand in surrounding villages from the beginning of the war in April ’92 until July ’95 would obviously be ignored.
   

    Take this article for example from the moslem side. It’s no surprise that the Serbs incarcerated at The Hague end up dying of supposed “heart attacks” and “suicide” while under 24/7 video surveillance:

BOSNIAN MUSLIM NEWSPAPER 1996

    <b>”Presidency and Army Command Sacrificed Srebrenica”</b>

    (Bosnian moslem newspaper) Slobodna Bosna, Sarajevo, Bosnia-Hercegovina, 7/14/96

    Ibran Mustafic, representative in Bosnian and Federal Parliaments, founder of SDA in Srebrenica and the captive of the Serb Army after the fall of this town, talks about the events about which he had unsuccessfully tried to speak in the Bosnian Parliament.

    (reporter): Who are the people you accuse and the people you don’t trust?

    Ibran Mustafic: <b>Scenario for the betrayal of Srebrenica was consciously prepared.Unfortunately, the Bosnian presidency and the Army command were involved in this business;</b> if you want the names, figure it out yourself. I understood the situation in Srebrenica and, you can trust me on this, had I not been prevented by a group of criminals, many more inhabitants of Srebrenica would be alive today. Had I received an order to attack the Serb army from the demilitarized zone, I would have rejected to carry out that order without thinking and would have asked the person who had issued that order to bring his family to Srebrenica so that I can give him a gun and let him <b>stage attacks from the demilitarized zone</b>. I knew that such shameful, calculated moves were leading my people to a catastrophe. <b>The orders came from Sarajevo and Kakanj.</b>

    (reporter): What were the consequences of the <b>attacks staged from the demilitarized zone</b> for the inhabitants of Srebrenica?

    Ibran Mustafic: That was <b>a conscious giving of a pretext to the Serb forces to attack the demilitarized zone.</b>

    (reporter): Who in Srebrenica accepted to carry out those orders?

    Ibran Mustafic: Those individuals who, in the Summer of 1995, without a scratch left Srebrenica (…). It is well known that that team managed to get out and take with along the elderly, children and horses. I can only thank God, that a number of honest people and patriots managed to get out with them. (…) According to our custom when someone finishes the foundations for a house, an animal must be slaughtered on top of them. It seems that Srebrenica was a sacrificial lamb for the foundation of this state.

    (reporter): Do you think that the events would have been different had Srebrenica truly be demilitarized?

    Ibran Mustafic: Had some people then, or later, in 1994 and 1995 accepted to evacuate the people and to concede the territory, that would have represented the public division of Bosnia. It seems that they want to divide this state in a secret, perfidious way.

    (reporter): Who are you talking about?

    Ibran Mustafic: About the official authorities.

    (reporter): Why wasn’t then, as you suggest, Srebrenica surrendered in 1993? What was the goal of such “games” with Srebrenica?

    Ibran Mustafic: The basic goal of that game was the illusionary freedom of Sarajevo and the Bihac region. What hurts the most is the attitude towards the survivors from the Drina valley who were in Srebrenica in July 1995. <b>Present attitude of the authorities towards those people is enough to convince me that the authorities expected that the number of the survivors would be smaller; it seems that the number of survivors is too high for their calculations.They made me say this: <i>”It seems you are afraid of living Srebrenica inhabitants.”</i></b>

    http://www.ex-yupress.com/slobos/slobos4.html

ERDYMOVIC, WHO WAS ANOTHER CHRISTOPHER BLACK, HOLDS THE SECRET WHICH PROVES THE “SREBRENICA MASSACRE” WAS A GIANT HOAX!

The case of the ICTY Court in the Hague and how it created the giant hoax of “The Srebrenica Massacre”, on the morning after the arrest of Ratko Mladic

 

The whole existence of the ICTY Court (also known as the Hague Kangaroo Court) was based on the “evidence” of one person, who was the equivalent but much worse of Christopher Black of Derry, of supergrass infamy. His name was Drazen Erdymovic.

 

I separate with Harman. I have seen no evidence of any such killing and my big question to Harman is why believe anything that a paid liar like Erdymovic says anyways.

 

My point to Herman is that the police in such cases recruit vulnerable people, who in turn do a deal, and after that they are the property not of the truth but of the police. It is really an old story.

 

But Herman summarises the central issue in Civikov’s book well in these paragraphs below.

 

THE KEY ISSUE IS

Erdymovic in his own story and paid evidence to The Kangaroo Court did not act alone, but in his own words with 7 others.

 

Not only were these 7 others not prosecuted in “such a ghastly crime” as Srebrenica but the ICTY took great care NOT to prosecute them

 

And that is the central clue which if honest people follow it up leads to the reality that the “Srebrenica Massacre” is a giant hoax.

(The central witness in the case which had at its centre the Srebrenica Massacre had 7 associates, with two others further up in the chain of command. They have been and are ignored. Is that not fishy!)

 

But when it comes to Serbs and Jews there are not many honest people around and liars abound.

 

(Start here)

Global Research, January 10, 2011

A review of Germinal Chivikov’s book Srebrenica: The Star Witness (orig. Srebrenica: Der Kronzeuge, 2009, transl. by John Laughland) – “a devastating indictment of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY).”

One of the most remarkable and revealing features of the Erdemovic case is that although he named seven individuals who did the killing with him, and two superiors in the chain of command who ordered or failed to stop the crime, not one of these was ever brought into an ICTY court either as an accused killer or to confirm any of Erdemovic’s claims. These co-killers have lived quietly, within easy reach of ICTY jurisdiction, but untroubled by that institution and any demands seemingly imposed by a rule of law. The commander of his unit, Milorad Pelemis, who Erdemovic claimed had given the order to kill, made it clear in an interview published in a Belgrade newspaper in November 2005, that the Hague investigators have never questioned him. He had never gone into hiding, but has lived undisturbed with his wife and children in Belgrade. Nor have ICTY investigators bothered with Brano Gojkovic, a private in the killer team who Erdemovic claimed was somehow in immediate command of the unit (a point never explained by him or prosecutors or judges). Civikov points out that only once did the judges in any of the five trials in which the star witness testified ask the prosecutors whether they were investigating these other killers. The prosecutors assured the judges in 1996 that the others were being investigated, but 14 years later the Office of the Prosecutor had not questioned one of them. And from 1996 onward the judges never came back to the subject.

As these seven were killers of many hundreds in Erdemovic’s version, and the prosecutors and judges took Erdemovic’s version as true, why were these killers left untouched? One thing immediately clear is that the ICTY was not in the business of serving impartial justice even to the point of arresting and trying wholesale killers of Bosnian Muslims in a case the ICTY itself called “genocide.” But ignoring the co-perpetrators in this case strongly suggests that the prosecutors and judges were engaged in a political project—protecting a witness who would say what the ICTY wanted said, and refusing to allow any contesting evidence or cross-examination that would discredit the star witness. Civikov points out that the only time Erdemovic was subject to serious cross-examination was when he was questioned by Milosevic himself during the marathon Milosevic trial. And Civikov shows well that the ICTY presiding judge in that case, Richard May, went to great pains to stop Milosevic whenever his questions penetrated too deeply into the area of Erdemovic’s connections or credibility.

In April 2004, a Bosnian Croat, Marko Boskic, was arrested in Peabody, Massachusetts, for having caused a hit-and-run car crash while drunk. It was soon discovered that Boskic was one of the members of Erdemovic’s killer team at Branjevo Farm But journalists at the ICTY soon discovered that the Tribunal did not intend to ask for the extradition of this accused and confessed murderer. A spokesman for the Office of the Prosecutor stated on August 2004 that the prosecutor was not applying for the extradition of Boskic because it was obligated to concentrate on “the big fish.” So killing hundreds, and being part of a “joint criminal enterprise” murdering 1,200, does not yield big enough fish for the ICTY. In fact, this is a major lie as dozens of cases have been brought against Serbs for small-scale killings or even just beatings, and the ICTY has thrived on little fish for many years. In fact, the first case ever brought by the ICTY was against one Dusko Tadic in 1996, who was charged with a dozen killings, all dismissed for lack of evidence, leaving him guilty of no killings whatsoever, but only of persecution and beatings, for which he was given a 20 year sentence. A number of other Serbs were given prison sentences, not for killing people, but for beatings or passivity in not exercising authority to constrain underlings (e.g., Dragolic Prcac, 5 years; Milojica Kos, 6 years, Mlado Radic, 20 years, among others). The dossier of ICTY prosecution of little (Serb) fish is large.

Thus, the Boskic case does not fall into any little-fish-disinterest category. Rather, it is perfectly consistent with the failure to bring to court Pelermis or any of the seven known co-perpetrators of the massacre. Civikov’s very plausible hypothesis is that this is another manifestation of star witness protection—the ICTY does not want his convenient testimony to be challenged. Little fish like Boskic might gum up a political project. Civikov contrasts the extremely alert and aggressive actions of the ICTY and U.S. authorities in getting Erdemovic transferred to the Hague in March 1996 with this remarkable reluctance to even question Erdemovic’s fellow killers. He was seen quickly as a man who might make proper connections to enemy targets, so no holds were barred then, or later..

http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=22727

SREBRENICA…MAY THE G-DS HONEST TRUTH SET US ALL FREE

by Felix Quigley

July 25, 2008

(in association with some very valuable Jewish and Serb friends)

 

I have my own special angle on what has become known as THE Srebrenica Massacre. The more threadbare is the position of your political enemy, then the more outlandish needs to be the Big Lie in response to that weak and threadbare position.

And believe me the people who have promoted the claim that the Serb Army carried out a massacre of Muslims in the town of Srebrenica in Bosnia-Herzegovina in the year of 1995 have really got a very weak case. No, please correct that, they have got no case whatsoever.

You have heard of lies! This case is about lies. You have heard of the Big Lie! This case is the perfect example of same. When people in the future history of mankind think of the name Srebrenica they will not think that a massacre happened there by Serbs on Muslim civilians, but that a Big Lie was enacted there.

It is with great, great pleasure that I reproduce this article which first appeared on the famous JTF Jewish website:

[begin to read this great and succinct study of the Big Lie of the Srebrenica Massacre here]


The Massive Hitler style “Big Lie” spread by the US and NATO Imperialist Globalists -and their paid media prostitutes – about what happened in Srebrenica from 1992 to 1995.

Shalom & Greetings to all the wonderful people at JTF.

There have been some comments here by certain well meaning people on JTF trying to defend the Bosnian Serbs by saying that the Serbs only “massacred” such and such number of Bosnian Muslims.This is a very dangerous – and ultimately self-defeating – way of attempting to defend true history -and with it, the heroic Serbs.

For example, one very well meaning and intelligent person here by the name of George wrote the following:

“…even UN Investigation cannot prove that no more than 2,200 muslims were massacred.”

This is not correct. Those 2,200 bodies are not even identified by DNA analysis as conclusively proven to be Bosnian Muslims.  Continue reading