THIS WAR WITH HAMAS/FATAH AND ANTISEMITISM CAN BE WON BUT ONLY UNDER SPECIAL LEADERS

The last Christian left Mosul on Wednesday. The “Palestinians” are precisely allied with that Fascism

 

 

NETANYAHU CANNOT END IT

NETANYAHU CANNOT DEFEAT HAMAS

NETANYAHU SEES ONLY ISRAEL DEFENCE

 

Under Netanyahu and the present leaders in Israel there will never be an end to the war and Israelis will always be under attack from Hamas, and from other attacks too from inside Israel.

 

The mathematics is quite simple. If Israel does not take over Gaza and dismantle the terrorist Hamas, its leadership and operational bases then Israel has to live with Hamas alongside.

 

It should be noted very strongly that the IDF was aware of the tunnels from a long time ago. They were even aware that Hamas had changed from one single 8 hour shift to a 24 continuous three 8 hour shifts. Jews in southern Israel were hearing voices!

 

Gaza is therefore a piece of land that is sitting on extensive tunnels

 

Only one journalist in the whole international media has reported on seeing Hamas launch rockets, in that case a Finnish journalist, and she reported seeing a rocket launched from the grounds of Shifa Hospital.

 

This journalist is now in physical danger and will be leaving Gaza asap. This journalist reminds me of Bosnia and the brave journalist from UK Eve Ann Prentice see http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/076.shtml

 

The non reporting by the Media of Hamas war crimes, and it is also a war crime to dress up for war in civilian dress, is another important issue for Israel and for all of us who are opposed to this kind of trap.

 

GAZA WAR IS WIDER THAN GAZA

BUT JEWISH MEDIA IS INSULAR

JEWISH SOCIAL MEDIA IS INNSULAR ALSO

The issue of Hamas and the support effectively for Hamas by that Media is also linked to the issues of the war on the Serbs, the war on Putin and Russia, the war on Kosovo and so on.

 

There is also the vital matter of the left. It is obvious that in the social media, as on http://www.thejournal.ie there are an organised forcé of people  who are writing all the time on the basis of an antisemitic hatred for Israel, that is for Jews. They seem to write full time.

 

How this can be combatted is an issue. It has not even been discussed never mind combated.

 

HOW THE ARAB “PALESTINIAN” NARRATIVE WAS SOLD

THE OLD ADAGE OF TRUTH STILL PUTTING HIS PANTS ON WHILE THE LIE IS HALFWAY ROUND THE WORLD

At the basis of this is the way that the Arab “Palestinian” Narrative has been sold. It has been sold most effectively. One answer to this is the book “Phantom Nation”, a large 200 page plus book of A4 size, and that is just Volume 1.

 

The full 3 Volumes are on Kindle. It is by Sha’i ben-Tekoa

 

This book is the best answer but even this book in the opinión of 4international is deficient. This is seen in his bias against Marx and Communism and his not understanding of Stalinism, nor the struggle of Leon Trotsky in defence of the Jews.

 

Why is a clever intelligent writer therefore so not ignorant but biased, therefore skewed?

 

Martin Sherman makes many good points but sadly Martin has no way to make his knowledge come to life. For that you need a party of a particular type.

 

Such is the confusión one person on his Facebook even advocates a Jewish “King”.  People can say anything in periods of stress and crisis. That is dogma. there was a King in the past so a King now. Such would accuse Marxism as being a dogma!!!

 

The bottom line is that the war is already lost and this is due totally to leadership. Netanyahu never had the intention clear or otherwise of defeating Hamas.

You will never defeat Hamas if you do not intend to defeat Hamas!

 

Netanyahu represents a replay of the Popular Front. Perhaps he keeps Hamas because he figures he can do a deal even with Hamas against ISIL

 

The whole of the problem lies with Netanyahu and what he represents in Israeli society. Not personally. He represents an ideological current.

 

I REMEMBER WELL THE GAZA WITHDRAWAL

 

At the time of the Gaza Withdrawal under Sharon Netanyahu played the worst role. The plans of Sharon were meeting with more and more opposition

 

On Israpundit at the time myself and Joseph Alexander Norland were fighting a hard struggle against the prevarication of Ted Belman on the issue of Withdrawal. Belman had allowed an Omri Coren to post articles and Omri Coren was advocating flat out for the Sharon Withdrawal.

 

The arguments of Coren were never combatted by Belman who sat on the proverbial fence. But it was so maddening for me because I knew that you never give land to your enemy.

 

The Israeli people were really confused but as time went on and the date drew nearer and Hamas was more and more gloating and self-confident, there was a MASS movement development from deep within the Israeli masses against withdrawal.

 

Jared Israel did a useful article on his website which described how teenager boys and girls travelled long distances to talk to the IDF, and opposint withdrawal.

 

It was at this time that the utter bankruptcy of groups like Women in Green were seen. They marched Israeli religious youth up the hills and they marched them down again. But the Women in Green were pressure politics people when what was needed was a revolutionary Jewish party

 

In the end it was the Settlements Leaders who knifed the Israeli people in the back and they came in and backed up Sharon. Especially the Rabbis backed up Sharon.

 

Feiglin always note has a correct position but…Feiglin does not build a party of the mass movement. Feiglin advocates for Feiglin. Some of the things Feiglin says are good but Feiglin says them and then retreats into nothingness.

 

The issue in Israel is one of power. People like Netanyahu capture power in the Knesset and then rule as dictators for the next usually ten years. It appears like democracy but the Media control make it a real dictatorship. Media and money and power! Look at what Netanyahu did recently to Danny Dayon. He sacked him.

 

What is needed now is the most determined struggle inside and outside of the Knesset, on the soldiers committees which need to be set up if necessary, on groups like Women in Green, on social media like Jews News, on every forum as to how to mobilise the Israeli people against what is a Maoist Fascist type group (Hamas and Fatah)which is allied with US Imperialism, British Imperialism and world antisemitism.

 

PARTY OR SPECIAL ORGANIZATION NOT BEFORE SEEN IN ISRAEL

 

You need a party in Israel.

 

As somebody said in a comment Netanyahu is engaging in talks in Cairo and his solution is international demilitarisation of Hamas.

 

How did that work out in Lebanon? Brilliant wasn’t it. Israel now has 10,000 rockets of Hisbullah trained on its cities thanks to the UN, those Irish and Spanish soldiers, all great friends of the Jews y’know!

 

So Netanyahu must go. He must go as soon as possible. It is precisely in a war and through a war that you can see that the leaders are not up to the task

 

Abbas should have been arrested and the Fatah movement banned the first indication that Abbas was forming a Unity Government

 

All contacts with Obama who was backing that Unity Government had and have to be broken off

 

(Take up a big fight in Europe against the likes of Steven Ritson of Talk Radio Europe who obviously thinks the Unity Government is the way forward. This is Unity  with fascists…hamas is Fascist and Ritson needs to have that stuffed down his throat)

 

The answer to Ritson is that you do not unite with Fascists if you do not intend to carry out a Fascist programme.

 

Netanyahu did nothing along these lines.

 

He did not arrest Abbas. He did not break off all contact with Obama and Kerry.

 

Netanyahu did nothing. He mouthed and mouthed but he did nothing.

 

HAS THERE EVER BEEN SUCH WAR BUNGLING

 

The War…the worst example of Israeli Government bungling.

 

It should be the very simplest matter to defeat Hamas. Any so called fighter who burrows underneath leaves themselves totally vulnerable to what is above and comin at em

 

But nothing was comin at em.

 

Netanyahu was throwing out feelers picked up by these disreputable journalists all round the place, not just in Israel, that it was better to keep Hamas because the alternative might be worse.

 

So sickening!  So morale sapping!

 

SOME OBVIOUS STEPS

 

Step 1. Jews had to be withdrawn from the border with Gaza. Move them out of dangers way. Have Jews elsewhere put them up.

 

Step 2. The IDF drives a wedge over the ground that the Hamas leaders are skulking under

 

Step 3. All “civilians” out of that area. Level it. Occupy that area. Send depth charges. No Jewish soldier should go near the mouth of a tunnel. That is what depth charges are for.

 

Step 4. Demand that Hamas surrender and if they do not … occupy by great force and ruthlessness the whole of the Gaza area. Do not let them escape from any corner. Place the captured Hamas leadership on trial. Place the UN organizations on trial. Be prepared to meet the force of Obama’s Nato with extreme force. Send out messages of alliances with others in a similar situation such as the antifascists in Donesk Ukraine and in Crimea.

 

Step 4…The Arabs of Gaza. Those Arabs who support the Jewish Homeland and who reject the poison of Antisemitism in a meaningful way can remain in Israel as guests. No others can remain. No Antisemites can remain. Antisemitism remains the bottom line and main issue of our times. Trotskyist socialists cannot and must not stand aside from that

 

 

FINAL issue help us to build 4international.

 

ABBAS JOINING WITH FASCIST HAMAS…THIS IS A TIME FOR ACTION NOT TALK BY JEWS…OUR PROGRAMME

Yesterday I claimed that in the face of Abbas Hamas pact that the Israeli leaders, all of them, were paralysed. How sadly true that was. Interviewed by BBC Antisemites Netanyahu was on the defensive. Netanyahu used the word “peace” 20 times. But unfortunately it is war.

 

Netanyahu is a creature of US Imperialism and if Jews are not careful the whole of the Israeli struggle for a Homeland is going down the same road. It is a life and death struggle now to create a new leadership which can break from the past. In this real and material world who cares about acceptance by capitalist nation states all of which are being driven (like Spain) towards Fascist rule once again. Who cares, really?

 

Yet Netanyahu will NOT fight the Americans. The US said at first (yesterday) that Abbas joining Hamas was not a nice thing to do, but this morning 24 hours later America was calling for a “compromise” to be reached. Who has to compromiso? The Jews. That is the same as asking Jews as they were marched into the Nazi concentration camp to compromiso!!! Hamas and Abbas ARE the Nazis in modern form.

 

The Islam enemy of the Jews now Abbas and Hamas has called war and America calls compromise. America wants Jews to compromise, as in 1939 at the gates of Auschwitz

 

But America that is Kerry were not seeking compromise this morning when they were declaring war on Russia over Ukraine. When will this hypocrisy ever be ended.

 

On all of these issues Israeli and Jewish leadership is bankrupt. They can DO nothing and will do nothing. Jewish leadership is a total danger to the Jewish people on all of its fronts.

 

Here I kid you not. Just yesterday the Jewish so called blog called Israpundit gang of violent Fascists were focussed (at this time) on driving off Israpundit a Christian man who this gang of fascists had labelled an Antisemite. This particular Christian has the same policy more or less as Martin Sherman in that he calls for Arabs to be induced to leave with lump sum payment. So he is an asset to the Jews. But the gang of Israpundit were driving him off AND OTHERS with repeated slurs of him being an Antisemite.

 

It is just an expression of the crisis, no more tan that. Groups and individuals that have sprung up around the Jewish movement have to be questioned on every single issue of programme and policy. But when they start throwing the label “Antisemite” around that is a real danger sign.

 

The situation needs urgently a revolutionary socialist Trotskyist Party. This will go back into the 1930s and to the analysis which Leon Trotsky was making against Stalinism and against Fascism. How to defeat Imperialism? How to stop Fascism? How to save Jews from Antisemitism? The fight against Stalinism and the legacy of Stalinism! The fight for principle! Opposition to isolationism  and the struggle for a principled Trotskyist Party in these conditions of world capitalist crisis.

 

First of all American diplomats like Kerry must be banned from entering Israel.

 

The forces of this Fascist movement which we can label as “Palestinianism” must be smashed. This means the immediate arrest of the PA leadership and as el Sisi did with Morsi Abbas must be placed on trial for his crimes. Join forces with el Sisi to smash hamas totally, and executing all its leaders all of whom have murdered Jews. But take possession of both gaza and Sinai.

 

The politics of Caroline Glick must be opposed down the line—I would say on everything and here I disagree with Martin Sherman…I say oppose her on everything! There can be no living at all with Arabs in the Jewish homeland and rather than that Jews have to protect themselves from this form of Antisemitsm. Glick proposes to make them citizens…what a horror show that is and what a horror show is Glick!

 

Israel has to be far less reliant on these international capitalist governments. Israel is far too intent on business. Fight for principle. Israel must now urgently create an Alliance with those Russians in Ukraine who are fighting Fascism and fighting NATO. Israel must state that the Kiev regime must be overthrown and as an immediate action Russia must move into East Ukraine with all its force to stop these murders of antifascist fighters as happened yesterday…five murdered by the Fascists. But Israeli leaders say not a Word…a horror show for Jews. People are fighting Fascism and Jews are silent as the grave!

 

And so on. Name any issue and Israeli leaders are totally useless and worse downright dangerous for Jews.

 

Above all créate a party which will fight in concrete form for principle. This is 4international and we do have a definite programme of theory and action which is rooted inside the great history of Trotskyism. So far it is a free world. join us if you have the courage to act rather tan talk…Felix Quigley

CAROLINE GLICK IS THE CHEER LEADER FOR US IMPERIALISM AMONG THE JEWS

Yes, oh yes, indeed Ukraine could in a split second happen also to Israel. In Ukraine a bunch of Fascists financed through the US State Department have taken power of the state, and the President who was democratically elected in a democratic bourgeois election has been kicked out. THAT is Fascism is it not? Where bourgeois and parliamentary democracy is dispatched within mere days by means of Fascist bands of men and it seems women on the streets.

 

I open up Israpundit, I open up Pamela Geller, I open up the Jihadwatch of Spencer this morning and there is NOT ONE SYLABLE about the Fascist coup in Ukraine.

 

That can only mean one thing and that is that these flunkies who claim to defend Jews are in favour of this Fascism which is filling our news screens because essentially it strikes a blow against the still memory of the Russian Revolution of 1917. Belman who host Fascists on his site, Geller and Spencer…what chance do Jews have with people like this around!

 

THE RECENT CAROLINE GLICK ARTICLE IS ATROCIOUS

In this theme I have opened up the recent article by Caroline Glick this morning. If ever there was a loose cannon in the Jewish movement then it is Glick. Remember Glick got her political education inside US Imperialist politics. Among many things what struck me in this latest load of old cobblers from Glick is that she is calling for America to arm Japan against China, and she is calling on America to help South Korea to develop Nuclear Arms against North Korea. The essence is that she wants Israel to be the trusted ally of the US Imperialists.

 

She WILL support the Fascists in Ukraine…that is a fairly safe prediction. In other words right there in the centre of the Israeli bloggers is Glick a complete tool of US Imperialism. How could the Jews not go down with that there in place betraying Jewish interests because of her commitment to US Imperialism? She hates Obama because Obama is not Imperialist enough. Bush who removed Saddam and Glick campaigned for the Iraq War is her idol basically. We know that Obama is an Antisemite and a big danger to the Jews, but so was Bush in his Iraq war that Glick supported.

 

GLICK AND JOHN BOLTON

You can learn a lot about this crisis of Jewish leadership in Israel by paying attention to what John Bolton writes, mainly because Bolton is supported by all of these Jewish leaders I write here about,

…I have transcribed a handful of paragraphs from neocon John Bolton who is a big favourite of the above worthies, and it becomes clear what the issue is. The Jews are being led by the nose not just by the criminal traitor Netanyahu, but by a whole coterie of reactionaries. See what you think of what I think of Bolton. Young Jews have to break with this, who in 2014 needs this?

 

Feb 18, 2014 LA Times…John Bolton

 

EXTRACT FROM RECENT ARTICLE BY BOLTON

1…Obama’s first error: misreading your adversary. There was never any chance Iran could be negotiated out of a nuclear weapons capability it has pursued for nearly 30 years. Efforts during the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations demonstrated how Iran deftly uses negotiations to gain political legitimacy, buy time to continue work on its nuclear program and evade international punishment. Hassan Rouhani followed precisely this playbook as Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator 10 years ago. He is doing so again today as Iran’s president.

2…The second error: not knowing who your adversaries are. Obama argued for three years that Russia shared his objective of a peaceful transition from the Assad regime in Syria to something else. This was never true. Moscow’s support for Assad (as well as Iran’s, directly and through Hezbollah) guaranteed he would only depart feet first. The U.S. could either have aided Syria’s opposition or tackled the problem’s root cause: the mullahs’ regime in Tehran. Obama chose to do neither. His equivocation regarding Syria’s chemical weapons program has provoked giggles or dismay at White House weakness.

3…The third error: not knowing who your friends are. The Palestinians lack legitimate governing institutions capable of hard decisions, including making perilous concessions and compromises, and overcoming resistance by Hamas and other terrorists. Without such institutions, no long-term solution is possible. Negotiating with the Palestinian Authority has less substance than negotiating with a hologram. Perversely, however, Obama treats Israel as the problem.

4…Not apprehending these realities or foreseeing their consequences debilitates the United States, discourages its allies and emboldens its adversaries. The coming collapse of all three of Obama’s negotiations will convince foreign governments that his policies are dooming Washington’s Middle East influence to precipitous decline. And since appearance is reality in international politics, America’s ability to influence events — in Egypt for example, where the military government is already reverting to pre-Sadat days, purchasing arms from Russia — will sink further. Moreover, the opportunity costs of not focusing on threats elsewhere, such as China’s belligerent territorial claims in its coastal waters, are enormous.

 

To help us I have numbered these 4 paragraphs extracted from Bolton’s article

 

Bolton pretends to be a friend of Israel. Israeli leaders and Israeli so-called Pundits lap it up from Bolton. A kitten would have much more independence of mind than these Israeli leaders. An example is Belman editor of Israpundit who guests on his now notorious website Israpundit McCarthyite types, real communist haters, real communist bashers. One of their tricks that I object to…they have even named the Israeli traitors like Livni as being “Leftists”, the intent here of Belman types is obvious. It is to put in the minds of Jews the idea that all socialists are traitors. A kind of McCarthyite trick inside the Jewish movement.

But Bolton is no friend. Bolton wants to tie Israel behind US Imperialist policy. The main aim of Bolton and people like Bolton is to support any movement that will attack Russia or China. Why Russia or China? The answer is also obvious. The Bolton types have never forgotten the big shock to their system that was the Russian Revolution of 1917, where the power of the state machine was taken out of the hands of the Russian bourgeoisie and thereby the WORLD capitalist class, and placed in the hands of the workers of Russia, with the peasantry supporting. There is also basic contemporary capitalist international rivalry expressed in Bolton but that is entertwined with the Russian and Chinese Revolutions. It is also why Bolton was supportive of the Joe McCarthy in skirts of  today’s world, Diana West, also supported strongly by Gates of Vienna. These are dangerous waters leading to Fascism, although GOV is not Fascist and is sometimes in opposition to Jihad progressive.

 

Let me return to his Bolton’s article. It is directed towards these Jewish leaders, like Belman of Israpundit, who thinks because he is Jewish that that means that Belman should be listened to with respect. But No! That does not follow at all. Belman gives an open Fascist all the liberty that Fascist needs on his site. In other words Belman covers for a Fascist. Instead look carefully at paragraphs 1 and 2, and there you will discover what Bolton is really about. Bolton is saying that there is an automatic connection or even transition between Iran with its Nuclear Genocidal against the Jews plans, and Assad.

 

But that is false by Bolton. In reality they are two different things. Assad is threatened with his life by a combination of Jihad and US EU NATO force. As in the situation of Yugoslavia, Ben Ali, Mubarak, Gaghbo who is now in the Hague, and Gadhafi… He has a right to take support from wherever including from the very devil himself if he appears in order to fight for survival against the Jihad cum Empire. Not only has Assad a right to do so, but he is right to do so. Bolton throws Israel into this mix. But he does not answer that Israel had the right to hit the Iranian Nuclear Bomb and needed to hit the Iranian Bomb but did not do so. It was not only Obama but also Bush (who mentored Bolton) who held Israel back.

From paragraph 2 “The U.S. could either have aided Syria’s opposition or tackled the problem’s root cause: the mullahs’ regime in Tehran. Obama chose to do neither. His equivocation regarding Syria’s chemical weapons program has provoked giggles or dismay at White House weakness.”

You can see the sleight of hand in Bolton’s method. He says the root cause of Syria is the Iranian Mullahs. How so Bolton?

Why not say that the root cause is the way that the Jihad has combined with US and EU in removing secular rulers like Gadhafi and Mubarak, to replace them with open Fascism, and that these same forces are threatening Assad.

If you bother to trace back you will find that Bolton supported the removal of Gadhafi. In fact Belman of Israpundit actually called for US planes to attack and knock out the Libyan air force as a necessary step to bringing down Gadhafi. THAT is vintage Bolton and vintage Israpundit (Belman)

We await with interest what Bolton will say on Ukraine, so far he is silent, and Belman, too scared to say a word on Ukraine.

Some leaders!

So in a nutshell… Israel is in such danger not just from Obama but from the Jewish basic position in the world in relation to Imperialism through people like Belman. It needs to have a rethink. This will hardly be done by these capitalist types like Belman. If Belman was serious he might start by removing Fascists from his site.

 

Israel is being tied up in knots by these so called leaders. But they lead where? Only towards keeping this bankrupt capitalist system in control and power. Thus the capitalist threatens the Jews, and by the way every nationality on earth, every worker, every poor peasant, every wild animal, all of nature and all of the environment. At the end of the day the Jewish youth must break from this and indeed if only to preserve their rich Jewish history and experience must break from this. This can only be done through Trotskyist leadership and all of the above will fight bitterly against that thought and perspective so be prepared.

THE US AND EU AIM IS TO REPLACE UKRAINIAN ELECTED GOVERNMENT WITH FASCIST STATE

IT IS ABSOLUTELY VITAL FOR PUTIN AND YANUKOVYCH TO HOLD FIRM

 

The capitalist system is in deep crisis, getting worse, and is gearing towards Fascist forms of rule in every country int he world

Although Putin and Yanukovych are in political terms bureaucratic, afraid of the mass movement, they still have a connection however distorted that connection is to the socialist revolution of 1917

Just as Stalin set out to murder Trotsky and all opposition which was rooted in the 1917 socialist revolution, so from at least Reagan on the whole aim of the US and now the EU is to destroy every trace of the socialist revolution of 1917.

This also lay behind the war on the Serbs by NATO, by the UN, by the US and EU

It also in a different way, but definitely connected, lies behind Antisemitism and the present war of the US and EU against Israel.

Both are connected. The criminal is the capitalist system overall, and we emphasise again the capitalist system plunging into crisis.

There is a close connection between the US and EU which supports the Hamas and Fatah, and the same US and EU in support of the “Fatherland” bunch of Fascist hoodlums in Kiev, Ukraine

The “Fatherland” has its roots in the Holocaust of the Jews in the Ukraine. The Fatah and Hamas were founded by the Nazi Palestinian Arab Hajj Amin el Husseini, close relative of Arafat, and el Husseini was at least the equal of Eichmann in the Holocaust.

Even further back, one step back from the Nazi Holocaust, the “Fatherland” has its real roots in the “Whites”, that is those Antisemites who Trotsky was fighting against (and defeating) in the Russian Civil War years following 1918

It was actually the defeat of these “Whites” in that great struggle from 1918 to 1921 which prevented the Whites winning control of the Russian state, thus triggering the “Holocaust” right there and then

Once again Yanukovych and Putin must stand firm. 4international and myself, Felix Quigley, stand totally behind them in opposition to Obama, Cameron and Hague

see www.facebook.com/felix.quigley

Please help us to campaign on these issues

 

NETANYAHU MUST BE FORCED BY JEWS TO KEEP TRAITOR LIVNI OUT OF GOVERNMENT

THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN ISRAEL WHERE A GOVERNMENT IS BEING FORMED BASED ON THE RECENT ELECTIONS IS BECOMING CRITICAL. THE WEBSITE ISRAPUNDIT IS DISCUSSING THE ISSUES INVOLVED AND READERS HERE SHOULD FOLLOW AND PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION.

MARTIN SHERMAN IS A SERIOUS COMMENTATOR ON ISRAELI AFFAIRS (FROM JERUSALEM POST)

I ADDED A COMMENT WHICH IS ACCEPTED, AND ANOTHER AWAITS MODERATION (http://www.israpundit.com/archives/52998/comment-page-1#comment-267935)

(START COMMENT)

This is the political DNA of Yesh Atid, and as such it is incompatible with that of Bayit Yehudi – despite the alleged like-mindedness said to prevail between the parties on other issues.

Thus, while Bayit Yehudi issued a very upbeat announcement Thursday, declaring complete consensus and coordination with Yesh Atid, I would be highly skeptical as to whether such consensus/coordination extends to the cardinal issue at the center of the respective DNAs of the parties: The issue of Palestinian statehood.

This seems to confirm my central thesis on the other thread.

There is a mountain between Bennett and Lapid.

Meaning…the people who voted for Bennett voted for a man who stood for the fight against the Jihad against Israel, specifically the Palestine Arab State issue and how to halt that in its tracks. (Very simply those for the Palestine State are for the Jihad, both the Jihad against Israel and the Jihad in general.

The article above is masterly in showing that many who voted for Lapid were people in Israel without any firm foundations, for example, he refers very specifically above to people voting against all politics, that is nihilism, or last minute voters, that are swung into action by latest tv reports. These are the chaff of political life.

The strength of the Bennett vote remains and may increase, as it is certain to me anyway that Obama will get together with Abbas and Hamas to actually INSTAL Hamas.

Thus the fear and hatred of Lapid will grow, and the position of Bennett will be stronger.

People here can counter oh but Bennett is this and that, he did this and that. I KNOW THAT. You may know it better than me because you may simply be better informed.

But my fundamental point is unchanged…it is the movement of the key people behind Bennett’s new party that is all important.

The conditions for a great advance in Jewish consciousness is there. All is needed is the independent revolutionary party.

Here I have not yet touched on the need for the arming of the Jewish people and for the complete overhaul of the IDF so that the IDF is answerable not to careerist bureaucrats but the Jewish people

1947 TO 1949 PALESTINIAN ARAB REFUGEES AND THE STRUGGLE FOR HISTORICAL TRUTH

THE TRUTH IS ON THE JEWISH SIDE IN THE 1947 TO 1949 DEBATE AS THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE PROVES

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/the_expulsion_libel_1948_arab.html

INTRODUCTION TO NEUWIRTH BY 4INTERNATIONAL, WHICH WILL FORM PART OF A LONGER ARTICLE TO APPEAR ON OUR SISTER WEBSITE www.wedefendisrael.com

 

INTRODUCTION TO NEUWIRTH

Let us immediately and from the very outset dismiss historical relativism. There are not TWO or (worse) MANY narratives about the Arab Israeli conflict. There is only the one narrative and it is neither Israeli or Arab, it is the historical truth, or as near to that historical truth that it is possible for our human endeavours to approach, and as we learn more we approach closer and closer.

 

Rachel Neuwirth in her great historical treatise on 1948 has dealt a big blow against this historical relativism, which incidentally is also a moral relativism, in her April 13, 2008 titled The Expulsion Libel: 1948 Arab “Exodus”

 

4international in its work of 10 historical essays to appear on the sister website www.wedefendisrael.com is vitally interested in these 2 dates, the 1947 to 1949 period, and the 1967 7 days war period.

 

Most of the arguments concentrate around these two periods. They were periods of war and great change. War tends to be decisive and we must get close to the truth in remembering these two periods

 

Very, very fortunately the great Rachel Neuwirth has done much of our work for us in the former. Neuwirth is it would be fair to say not a Marxist or Trotskyist, is a bourgeois in her outlook, but no matter, her method is scientific and is true to historical scientific method.

 

Did the Jews in that war move ANY Arabs from their villages? Yes!

 

Since that answer is in the affirmative then it is possible for a certain type of “historian” better described as an unprincipled “scoundrel” to take such movements, dig a little, create a little if necessary, and hey presto we have a whole new narrative right there

 

Rachel Neuwirth thunders hammer blows against such lies and against that whole, unprincipled method of “history”.

 

She uses the same method which Leon Trotsky used, indeed used page after page, in his monumental work on the history of the Russian Revolution

 

This method which both Neuwirth and Trotsky employed is both simple and complex. Simple in the sense they use facts. Complex in the sense these facts are placed in context, a context itself which is based on facts.

 

About the same time a “study” of this 1947 to 1949 period was proffered to the Wikipedia encyclopaedia online, written from the Arab side, or from those who claim there are umpteen versions of this history, and the contrast between Wikipedia and Neuwirth is quite outstanding.

 

Put simply: Neuwirth uses primary sources. Wikipedia avoids primary sources.

 

So back to that question did the Jews move any Arabs from their villages in 1947 to 1949 and see how Neuwirth answers it.

 

 

 

(start Neuwirth here)

 

“I did not mean that no Israelis have forced any Arab residents of Palestine to evacuate their homes at any place or at any time during the past sixty years. Rather I meant that there was never any mass expulsion of the Arab population as a whole from Palestine/Israel, or from any region or part of Palestine/Israel, either during the Israeli War of Independence in 1947 – 49(the usual time-frame given by the anti-Israel “revisionist” or “new” historians for the alleged expulsion) or at any other time, and that it was never the policy or objective of Israel’s government to make Israel or Palestine “Arab-free,” or of “ethnically cleansing” the country of Arabs. If there ever was such a policy, then it would be impossible to explain how 1.4 million Arabs live in what is now sovereign Israeli territory today — many more than lived in the same territory before the state of Israel was founded. Just before the outbreak of first major Arab-Israeli war on November 30, 1947, a few months before Israelis declared their independence, there were at most 900,000 Arabs living in this same area.

 

Today there are large Arab populations in every region of modern-day Israel — the Galilee region in the north, the central coastal plain, the Judean hills, the “Shefela” or foothills region, and the Negev desert in the south. Arabs are at least 20 per cent of Israel’s present-day population. Arabs are half the population of two Israeli cities, Ramla and Lod, from which the Arab residents were, according to many historical accounts, expelled by Israeli soldiers during the War of Independence.

 

Naturally, I am skeptical of these accounts, since they don’t explain why there are more Arabs residing in these two cities (which were only small towns in 1948) than there were before the Arabs were allegedly expelled from them. Akko, another Israeli city, still has an Arab majority, just as it did in 1948, before Israeli soldiers gained control of it. There are large Arab communities in Israel’s three largest cities, Tel Aviv-Jaffa, Jerusalem, and Haifa, as well as in the city of Beersheva, which was a tiny village in 1948, but now has a combined Jewish and Arab population of over 100,000 people.

 

Over 100 of the Arab villages that were in what is now Israel before the nation was re-established in 1948 are still in Israel today; some of them, such as Umm-el-Fahm, Nazareth, and Sakhnin, have grown into all-Arab cities over the past sixty years. The Israeli government has also built new towns for its Arab citizens at locations that were previously uninhabited, and provided new homes and land to the Arab “settlers” in these communities at little or no cost to them.

 

And all of this Arab population is additional to the Arab inhabitants of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza region, who now number (depending on which population estimate you choose to believe) somewhere between 2.4 and 3.6 million people. This makes for a total present-day Arab population of what had been the territory of western Palestine under the British mandate of somewhere between 3.6 and 5 million people — about three times the total Arab population of this territory right before the War of Independence, and seven to ten times the Arab population in 1891. And if we include what is now the Kingdom of Jordan in “Palestine,” which we should, since it was the eastern section of the original British Palestine Mandate territory, then the total Arab population of Palestine has risen for about 1.7 million immediately before Israel became independent to perhaps eight million today. Some expulsion!

 

Neuwirth strikes many other blows against relativism which we will deal with in detail. In the meantime you can read the whole at this source

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/the_expulsion_libel_1948_arab.html

“KILL THE JEWS” WAS HEARD WITH NORWAY MINISTER OF EDUCATION PRESENT…SMILING!

NORWAY: SOCIALIST LEFT PARTY TO VOTE ON MOTION CALLING FOR BOMBING ISRAEL IF IT ACTS AGAINST HAMAS IN GAZA

Tundra Tabloids 29 March 2011

For many reasons this is very, very interesting. One of the slightly off the tangent reasons is that I remember that Leon Trotsky spent quite some time in Norway, when he was on the run from the then “Global Alliance” which included Stalinist killers, and he was very critical of the new leftist social democrat (labour party) types. That is “somewhere” on the net

I reprint this and I leave mistakes, probably due to translation, as is:

It’s come to this. The junior partner in the Norwegian government, the Socialist Left Party of Kristin Halvorsen, (Sosialistisk Venstreparti), plans to vote on a measure calling for military action against Israel if it decides to act against the Hamas in Gaza. Norway, Israel and the Jews blog informs the Tundra Tabloids of the following:
Socialistic Left dubious moral tradeoff for bombing Libya: Use armed force against Israel

NIJ: The SV annual convention goes to vote. The deranged junior partner in the current government coalition will among other proposals vote on a motion to use armed force against Israel should it attack Gaza.

The motion is the blood money required to pay off SV card carrying members who find it hard to accept that they have taken the nation to war, again. Last time it did so was back in 1999, when the party backed the NATO bombing of Serbia. As a result, we got ourselves involved in a war crimes probe because of high number of civilian casualties and bombing illegal targets.

Therefore, the only way it can be palatable to bomb Libya for these morally deranged people is if Israel can be bombed too.

Here is the less than lucid reasoning behind the motion:

– The credibility of the world community in its confrontation with the Gadafi regime is undermined when there is no reaction against other states in the region who commit injustices against civil population. The greater world community must therefore also react against Israeli air attacks on the Gaza strip.

So the rationel behind the recent action taken against the Libyan regime is gaining ground in the circles of the Norwegian Left (and most likely here in Europe as well) that something similar should be taken against the Israelis, in the event that the Jewish state reacts against terrorism. It’s an outrageous proposal to say the least, but we’re talking about Norwegian politicians here, many of whom still blame Israel for the failed peace plan that bears the name of their capital.

Prof. M. McGonagall, editor of the Israel, Norway and Jews blog, does us all a big favor in keeping a sharp eye on what passes for normal political discourse in Norway, it’s absolutely stunning for the rest of us though.

NOTE: Remember, Kristin Halvorsen is the same woman while as Finance Minister in the Norwegian government, participated in an anti-Israel demonstration where shouts of “kill the Jews” we heard, and appeared smiling. She’s now Minister of Education. Also, make sure that you read NIJ’s:

The strange world of Trond Andresen – one of the NTNU initiators of the Boycott Israel campaign and

Dershowitz on Norway: ‘A quiet and implicit boycott…’

SV allows for military force against Israel
In a proposal to the congress by a unanimous editorial committee opened it for the world community to intervene militarily against Israel if the country goes to the attacks on Gaza.

The proposal focuses on Norway’s participation in the Libyan war, is also committed to act against Israel., Writes aftenbladet.no.

– The world’s credibility in the confrontation with the Gaddafi regime is weakened when the reaction to other states in the region who commit atrocities against civilians fail. The world community must also act against Israeli aircraft attack in the Gaza Strip, “the proposal for comment.

There was a proposal to send the statement back to the editorial committee, but this did not get a majority in the Assembly. On the other hand went into the congress to postpone the matter until Sunday.

– Available options

Secretary of State Roger Sandum believes the proposal does not add up to the shelling of Israeli positions.

– There are a number of other ways to act against Israel, “he says to Eve magazine.

Earlier in the day asked him how Eve magazine deputy Bard Vegard Solhjell looked at this question. He replied as follows:

– I think the important thing is to urge Israel not to bomb and attack the Palestinian territories. And demand an end to occupation and a different policy from the Israeli side.

– Stop arms sales

– But should the world community to intervene with Israel if they are ready to bomb Gaza?

– I believe that if many more countries like Norway and did not traded arms with Israel, it would be able to have a real impact on Israeli politics. They are extremely dependent on the sale and import of weapons.

– If it could be a wider support for it, it would give a real noticeable effect. Other types of things that would put the power behind the demands to the Israeli government, I mean the international community must consider and Norway to work for, “said Solhjell to Aftenbladet.

 
Posted March 29th, 2011 by pk
 
 

4international…WE WILL DEFEND GADHAFI UNCONDIONALLY

 

 

We on 4international hope for a Gadhafi victory over the forces of the Empire/Sharia Alliance

 

Gadhafi is fighting for us all, all of us who oppose this Alliance of the Evil.

 

We as Trotskyists stand TOTALLY with Gadhafi. And we ask all of our friends among the Jewish patriots, and we have many friends, to stand with us along with Gadhafi

The future of this very battle, in which we must defend Gadhafi, is going to determine if Israel will continue to exist. In short, Obama, Cameron, Zapatero and their likes must be defeated because the Empire/Sharia Alliance must be defeated.

No matter how the Media talking heads spin it Libya is a tiny country of a mere handful of millions

 

America has 300m millions

 

Britain about 60 millions

 

Spain about 40 millions

 

France about 60 millions

 

Add all of the rest and you soon arrive at a figure of at least a billion actively involved in this war against Libya

 

The opposition to Gadhafi concentrated in Eastern Libya is laced with extreme Islamists. This area sent more suicide murderers into Iraq to carry out suicide murders than any other area in the world

 

Al Qaeda is involved and has been involved ever since Islamists came back from Afghanistan and tried to assassinate Gadhafi. The Muslim Brotherhood, the extreme Islamist organization, is heavily represented and is tightly organised.

 

These countries, Britain, America, France, and Spain who are leading the charge have insoluble economic problems in their own economies.

 

Why should they, and what is their great interest in helping such oppositional forces to Gadhafi.

 

We on 4international have been opposed to these so called oppositional forces since the very beginning. We are unique in the world in that respect. I mean others have come round but we never had a moment of hesitation!

 

It is not that we are against democratic rights. The opposite, we are foremost in defending democratic rights. But what rights did the American journalist Lara Logan have when she was stripped naked in Cairo by these “protesters” and repeatedly raped, with the bob calling “Jew Jew” to her (Actually she is not Jewish.)

 

So where are we?

 

Actually, in all truth, 4international is the only force on earth which has a clear position. We defend Gadhafi and his forces unconditionally, in the same way that Leon Trotsky defended Haile Selassie against Nazi attack in the 1930s

 

We are independent from Gadhafi; we have different policies and different approaches to life; but our defence is unconditional; against the murdering Imperialists our defence is (that important word again) unconditional; we wish for Gadhafi to survive and for the attackers of his country to be defeated and we will do everything in our power to do just that.

This is a real testing situation for leadership

 

We on 4international know very well that the best elements out of the Jewish leadership will come forward in a principled way and defend Gadhafi against these enormous odds

 

That is already happening. That affirms the truly great, historical and progressive nature of Zionism, as the millennia old striving of the Jewish people to live in Zion, which is the centre of their Judaism, a religion and political philosophy which has guided this people through thick and thin.

 

Why should they abandon or throw that off? We on 4international respect it.

 

We already have much evidence of this Empire/Sharia alliance. The great historical record is of how Islam and the Nazis came so closely together that they were indistinguishable.

 

Then just 40 years or so after the end of the Holocaust the whole dirty history was being re-resurrected first with the Holocaust Denier Tudjman, then most remarkable with the Clinton Alliance with Izetbegovic, a confirmed and admitted (Islamic Declaration) Nazi Islamist. Then the body snatchers of the Albanian Nazi Islamists in Kosovo.

 

While all this was happening in the 90s we had reactionaries like Oliver Kamm (Now The Times of London) rabbiting on with his lies trying to hide the truth, especially from Jews

 

Then there was and is the totally disorientated “Left”, some of them even calling themselves “Trotskyists”, and take it from me that later claim needs to be looked into!

 

As we speak Matgamma and WSWS are joining with the Imperialists (in differing ways)

 

THE AMERICANS ARE THE MASS MURDERERS

 

THE BRITISH ARE THE MASS MURDERERS

 

THE SPANISH ARE THE MASS MURDERERS

 

THE CANADIANS ARE THE MASS MURDERERS

 

OUR DEFENCE OF GADHAFI IS UNCONDITIONAL AGAINST THESE MASS MURDERERS

 

We believe that in these great historical events you cannot be a hurler on the ditch!

HOLOCAUST DENIAL LIES AT THE CENTRE OF MUCH REACTION TODAY…ESPECIALLY ON THE “LEFT”

by Felix Quigley

April 23, 2009

Joshua Rosenburg has drawn attention to a recent article by Carl Savich which deals with the antics of a very notorious character (His name is Marko Attila Hoare) and associate of Oliver Kamm of the Times of London, also a close associate of the equally notorious Harry´s Place website. We deal once again with this man going under the very peculiar name, let me repeat it for effect, in case our readers are unfamiliar…Marko Attila Hoare !

This study is all the more important because it deals with aspects of Holocaust Denial.

[Begin study of Marko Attila Hoare here]

British Marxist, anti-Serbian nutjob & former Hague ICTY/NATO employee, Marko Attila Hoare and the Monty Python “Heinrich Himmler” sketch faux pas.

Hoare  is again proven an egregious liar about Alija Izetbegovic’s resurrected Bosnian Muslim Nazi “Handschar” [aka “Handzar”] division in this great article by Serbian-American historian, Carl Savich.

“Fact versus Delusional Fantasy: The Bosnian Muslim Government Reformed the Nazi SS Division Handzar”
http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/?p=518
April 19, 2009 – 12:58 pm
Marko Attila Hoare rejects and suppresses this factual image of Bosnian history in favor of a fantasy or delusional image from a television comedy. The real Heinrich Himmler (Heimlich Bimmler) reviewing the real or “historical” Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Handzar, 1943.

Did the Bosnian Muslim Army and Government reform or recreate the infamous Nazi SS Division Handzar or not? Based on Martko Attila Hoare’s response to my article, Hoare now concedes that, indeed, there was a formation in the Bosnian Muslim Army termed the “Handzar Division”.

Let me reiterate that. Hoare admitted that the Bosnian Muslim Government did indeed reform the Handzar Nazi SS Division of World War II. When you cut through and deconstruct all the indeologically-driven claptrap, innuendo, ad hominen, personal attacks, this is the conclusion that he reaches.

Hoare is so caught up in his own arrogance and conceit that he does not even notice that he admitted this fact.

The issue or question is and always was: Did the Bosnian Muslim Government have a unit in its ranks known as the Handzar Division? Hoare’s reply is: Yes.

 

Marko Attila Hoare used this fantasy image to illustrate his article on the reformed Bosnian Muslim Handzar Nazi SS Division. Michael Palin is shown as Heimlich Bimmler (Heinrich Himmler), John Cleese as Mr. Hilter (Adolf Hitler), and Graham Chapman as Ron Vibbentrop (Joachim von Ribbentrop), from a 1970 episode of Monty Python’s Flying Circus. Reality is rejected over delusional fantasy constructs.

Hoare, nevertheless, convinces himself that he was “vindicated” in denying the existence of the reformed Handzar Division. How does he do this? His rebuttal consists of challenging the strength of the reformed Handzar Division. Now that he admits that it existed, he now challenges the size of the formation. His argument is:  The reformed Handzar Division did exist, as you claimed, but it was very small. It was a little bitty Nazi SS Division, not a big bad full-sized Nazi SS Division!

monty_python_hitler_in_england

The Holocaust as joke? Michael Palin as Heimlich Bimmler (Heinrich Himmler) in a 1970 comedy sketch. Isn’t Hoare a Holocaust denier? Fact: Bosnian Muslims, Albanian Muslims, and Croats played a role in the real Holocaust.

But is this a valid argument? Is someone pregnant or not? Can you be pregnant by degree? Is someone dead or not? Can you be only dead to a small degree? Did the Bosnian Muslim Army recreate the Handzar Division or not? This requires a simple yes or no answer. What Hoare initially challenged and questioned was the existence of the division. To be sure, he hedged his bets and cheated by conceding that the division might exist “conceivably” but that its number was small in size.

Hoare hedged his bets this way: “[I]t is conceivable that there really was a handful of Muslim zealots who, during the recent war, fought on the Bosnian side and grandiloquently named themselves the ‘Handžar Division’ after this historic unit.”

Hoare, in essence, denied that the division existed at all. This was the gist of his article. Now he admits and concedes that it, in fact, existed. Now he argues that the unit or formation was a small one. It is hard to pinpoint exactly what he claimed because he constantly changes his arguments and contentions.

Fact versus delusional fantasy? This is a factual image of the real Henrich Himmler (Heimlich Bimmler) with the real Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Hnadzar which Hoare has suppressed and repressed. Delusional fantasy is more reassuring than factual reality.

A fair characterization of his initial argument was that there was no evidence for the reformation of the Handzar Division. The eyewitness account of military analyst and journalist Robert Fox was deemed not credible. Hoare disingenuously hedged his argument by claiming that “conceivably” it could have existed. The way to translate this argument is:  No, the Handzar Division was not reformed. But, nevertheless, it is possible it may have been reformed. Of course, this is nonsensical and absurd.
 
Hoare then concluded: “Monty Python is a much better source for accurate historical information than Neil Clark and his comrades.”

So was the Handzar Division reformed or not? In his rebuttal to my article, Hoare now admits that the Handzar Division was reformed. He again hedges his bets by claiming this time that it was a small unit formed by “zealots”. But, again, the size of the unit or formation was never the question or issue. If there was a small unit or formation in the U.S. Army or British Army termed the “Adolf Hitler Regiment” or “Das Reich Division”, would it be relevant or material that the unit in question was only made up of “a handful” of “zealots”? Now that the existence of the unit is accepted and acknowledged, the issue shifts to the size of the unit, which is unknown.

Hoare concluded:  “It would seem that the ‘Handžar Division’,  confidently described as numbering ‘about 6,000 troops’ by our friend, does indeed turn out to be a bit smaller when the available evidence is examined closely.”

Hoare here mischaracterized Fox’s original statement by quoting my  estimate of the strength of the unit. Fox stated that UN peacekeeping “officers” had told him that the reformed “Handzar Division” was “up to 6,000-strong.” Fox emphazied that the strength of the unit was an approximation or estimate made by UN observers. Fox refers to the formation as a “unit” and as an element of the Bosnian army. Hoare ignores this explicit language and now argues that Fox claimed that the reformed unit consisted of “about 6,000 troops”.  But nowhere does Fox state that the unit was made up of 6,000 troops. The phrase “up to 6,000-strong” could encompass any number from one member to 6,000 members. Moreover, Hoare ignored that fact that Fox referred to the formation as a “unit” in his report leaving the actual size open to debate. Fox referred to the members of the unit as “Handzars” and as “[h]ardline elements of the Bosnian army, like Handzar.” Fox wrote that the formation was a “unit” of the Bosnian army similar to other units: “The Handzars are working closely with other units around Fojnica. ” But even at 6,000 men, it would only have ranked as a regiment or brigade, which usually consist of up to 5,000 men, not a division, which is generally accepted as a formation of 10,000 men or more.  In short, the focus or emphasis of the Fox report was the existence of the unit, not the size, on which issue Fox only proffered a potential maximum figure that was based on a UN estimate.

Finally, Hoare rejected Fox’s 1993 news report from the London Daily Telegraph out of hand, but this was not done by the Republican Policy Committee of the United States Senate, which cited Fox’s report as credible and accurate. In a January 16, 1997 report, the Committee, chaired at the time by U.S. Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican from Idaho, noted that  “there exists another group known as the Handzar (’dagger’ or ’scimitar’) Division” and quoted from Fox’s report. Thus, members of the U.S. Senate, tasked with safeguarding the lives of U.S. troops, found Fox’s report to be factual, credible, and accurate. Only Marko Attila Hoare questioned the veracity and accuracy of the Fox report. Absurdly, the Bosnian Muslim Government or Army never denied the existence of the reformed “Handzar Division”. Only Hoare has done this. At the war crimes trials of Bosnian Muslim military commanders at the ICTY, the existence of the “Handzar Division” as part of the Bosnian Muslim Army is openly acknowledged and detailed.

The translation is: The Bosnian Muslim Government of Alija Izetbegovic reformed the Nazi SS Division Handzar during the 1992-1995 civil war. This is the only logical conclusion when one cuts through all of Hoare’s labels and propagandistic nomenclature.

Hoare uses a bevy of labels to do the thinking for him: “Serb-nationalists” (yes, with a hyphen!), “Milosevic supporters” (at least Hoare gets the correct pronunciation of his name with the correct Serbo-Croat form of his name), “Islamofascist” (no hyphen, a neologism popular after 9-11), “members of a US-based circle of Milosevic supporters and Srebrenica deniers” (an analogy with Holocaust deniers), “Great Serbia” (a propaganda term coined by Austria-Hungary before World War I), “ex-Maoist” (is that a good or a bad thing?), “Milosevic-supporting, Srebrenica-denying website” (hyphenated now, denoting an activity), “all good Chomskyites” (are there such people as “Chomskyites” out there?), “Serb nationalists and their supporters” (no hyphen;  do “Serb nationalists” have supporters?), “Serb nationalists and their fellow travellers”  (didn’t this term go out with the Joseph McCarthy Communist Witch Hunts during the 1950s Red Scare?), and “the Great Serbia supporters”.

How can one explain this plethora of labels? Why does Hoare use such preposterous and risible labels? We use labels to preclude thought or thinking. Labels are a shortcut to thinking and intellectual debate or discusiion. In fact, labels are meant to preclude or prevent any thought at all. This is why Hoare uses labels. They are mindless and senseless. Why use them then? In essence, Hoare does not want to debate or discuss these issues rationally or logically. He thus engages in the use of labels, what is termed “name calling” in propaganda analysis.  In propaganda, we use “pulpit words” or “glittering words” to describe ourselves and our own actions and the opposite words to describe our opponents. In short, Hoare wants to preclude any thought or debate. This is why he resorts to such propagandistic words. There is no thought or thinking going on, no discussion or debate or dialectic. There is only a stream of pre-selected labels or prejudiced or loaded words. It is like when Polonius asked Hamlet what he was reading:  “Polonius: What do you read, my lord? Hamlet: Words, words, words.”

The case is closed. As Detective Steve McGarrett would say to Detective Danny Williams, “Book ‘em, Danno!”

[end study of Marko Attila Hoare here]

The great strength of this study is that it shows that Marko Attila Hoare is responsible for a great revision of history, which is essentially what he does when he makes a joke about an aspect of the Holocaust in the Balkans.

Let us be very clear here. The Handzar division was a Nazi SS Division, and was created out of the forces of Islam in the Balkans.

To deny that is bad, but to deny as Hoare does that that was recreated by Izetbegovic is the most dangerous of all.

Because if you do that then you are saying that the study by Christopher Simpson in “Blowback” and in all the studies of the actions and words of Ahmadinejad in the present are of no relevance.

That another Holocaust is not possible!

That is the great fact that all on this British Imperialist Labourist wing surrounding Kamm, Harry´s Place, the British Media in total except for one noted journalist Eve Ann Prentice, worked might and main to keep hidden during the 90s and indeed since to this very day!

And that is where the Savich claim about Marko Attila Hoare Holocaust Denial is located. They are all guilty of this.

We on 4international have also met Jewish people who did not want to know about this aspect of history, or like Bill Narvey of Israpundit claimed that it had no relevance to today.

We also think that at the centre of all of the Fascist Leftist posturing of today on Israel lies a deep form of Holocaust Denial.

Behind the antics of people like Sinead Cusack now canvassing for her Israel hating son today in Ireland and wider is another form of truth denial, because what is denied is the situation of the Shoah which made it imperative to found Israel.

In fact all attacks that I see being made on Israel today, whether it is in Fatah and Abbas, in Hamas, in Hizbullah, or Iran…all are forms of Holocaust Denial.

There is another distortion which I would like our readers to understand acutely.

It was Leon Trotsky who emerged in the 1930s as the greatest advocate for Jewish nationalism, which he promoted because he had made a deep study of Fascism, and saw the great danger to the Jews from the Nazis.

For some reason the Lefts and “Trotskyists” have also hidden this aspect of history.

And in a strange way these things have come back together again in the grave danger to the Jews of Israel and all the Jews in the Diaspora from a combination of Fascist Islam and Fascist US Foreign policy (of Bush and Obama)

While we on 4international alone continue to fight to defend the Jews of Israel and insist that Israel has no choice but to wage war on the Iranian Nuclear agenda.

We do not wish this. But like Trotsky in the 1930s we are realistic and we try to emulate the realism of Trotsky re 1930s Fascism in the situation of today.

The essence of Hoare, and essentially also of Harry´s Place, Nick Cohen, Maggie O´Kane et al, in the following

The reformed Handzar Division did exist, as you claimed, but it was very small. It was a little bitty Nazi SS Division, not a big bad full-sized Nazi SS Division!

In their analysis of Marko Attila Hoare, in their insisting on his attempts of making a joke out of the Holocaust in the Balkans showing him as a real danger to Jewish people, Joshua and Carl have brought us a great deal further forward.

ISRAEL WILL ATTACK IRAN AND MUST BE SUPPORTED BY SOCIALISTS

by Felix Quigley

April 21, 2009

 

The clock is now ticking down to war between Israel and Iran, with the US Government lining up with Iran, that is with the Iranian Fascist regime, and everything about the US Fascists, Nazis and Jew Haters, and their alliance with their pet babies the Iranian Fascists right out in the open.

This is now totally unavoidable, as surely as night follows day.

This is what we on 4international have said consistently for at least 2 years. We base our analysis on a number of things.

1. That the Jews are indeed a real nation

2. That Islam is antisemitic to the core. The real essence of the Arab rulers in the Arab League and all those Islamist countries in the UN is to prevent Infidels having a base in THEIR lands.

3. The Mullahs of Iran are motivated by Jew Hatred just as much as were the German Nazis

4. In fact during the Holocaust there was at every level close relations between Islam and the German Nazis. That is fact, hidden but easily proven.

The key to the whole situation is the US Government and how the US elite and to some extent the EU elite is lining up with Islam.

The reason for this is extremely simple and if you are a Trotskyist just a little obvious. They both seek a union together against the threatened socialist revolution.

The following report from DEBKAfile will have to be digested with some urgency:

[Begin DEBKAfile report here]

dated April 21, 2009

DEBKAfile‘s military sources cite some Western intelligence and nuclear weapons experts as predicting that Iran could turn out nuclear weapons some time in the next 12 months.

This estimate is based on Tehran’s announcement that 7,000 centrifuges are in operation to enrich uranium. If all those machines were to work at top speed day and night, seven days a week, they could produce enough weapons-grade uranium to build a bomb in 60 days, say some intelligence sources. According to American experts, given the current rate of the program’s development, Iran will be in a position to manufacture as many as 60 nuclear bombs and warheads in 12 to 18 months.

This judgment was confirmed by Israel’s military intelligence (AMAN) chief, Maj. Gen. Amos Yadlin in his latest briefing to the cabinet Monday, April 20. He reported that Iran is going all-out for enriched uranium from overseas to shorten the process.

Japanese sources recently reported that a North Korean boat shipped a large quantity to Iran earlier this year. According to the big-circulation The Nikkei, the North Korean vessel’s hold carried a secret cargo of uranium highly-enriched to 50-60 percent. The ship set out for Iran in December, moving moved at a leisurely pace so as not to call attention from Western spy satellites, surveillance vessels and warships. Earlier this year, the illegal consignment was dropped at an Iranian port for transport to a facility near Tehran, according to the Japanese paper.

Yadlin noted that extreme economic crisis has not delayed Tehran’s headlong nuclear progress or curtailed its designs on other Middle East countries – Hizballah’s subversive activities in Egypt are not a lone instance. Inflation is officially put at 30 percent but is probably closer to 50 percent, while unemployment is deepening, yet Tehran upped the 2009 appropriation for its nuclear program by 15 percent.

Rather than translating the crisis into leverage for persuading Iran to abandon its nuclear objectives, the Israeli intelligence chief noted that the Obama administration has opened the door to dialogue with all the extremists of the Middle East, including Iran, albeit “with open eyes.”

Iran, for its part, is accelerating its nuclear program, taking full advantage of the undercover communications with Washington which are aimed at gaining Tehran’s cooperation for the US war effort in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

from

 

(Iran could produce first nuke

 in 60 days with 7,000

centrifuges  working 24/7

DEBKAfile Special Report

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6035

 

If as we on 4international believe that the Jews are a nation, and have been for thousands of years, then a number of things follow

1. There is no alternative. Israel must make war on the Mullahs, and specifically the Nuclear Bomb making of the Mullahs

2. The Mullahs are not an ordinary opponent, they are an opponent which denies the Holocaust. Logically that means that they have a new Holocaust of the Jews in mind

3. Israel will attack. That is the historical role of Netanyahu and his colleague Lieberman

4. Because without that attack the Jewish nation is as good as dead.

And that is what is spelled out in the Debka report above and is the esence of the position of 4international. Israel must act! Israel must be supported by all socialists and progressive peoples. That support given the power of antisemitism has to be fought for.

THIS JEW HATRED TODAY IS PREPARING THE GROUND FOR A NEW HOLOCAUST OF THE JEWS

by Felix Quigley

February 26, 2009

We on 4international stand totally behind the Jews of the world and of their Homeland Israel.

There has been a huge rise in antisemitism in every part of the world. In Paris 2 years ago a young Jewish person was murdered. In Paris in recent weeks during the Gaza War there has been a massive increase in attacks on Jews.

One of the results is that in Paris the home of the Renaissance Jews have been advised not to go out on the streets after 7 oclock in the evening, and that they should not appear as Jew, meaning to watch what they wear and how they look, headgear etc.

This is due to 2 things.

One is the massive influx of Arabs into France, Arabs who are really Islamists. They are carrying on an invective against Israel.

The second is the role of the modern Media. It was seen in the Mohammed El Durra France 2 affair that the French Media was totally hostile to Israel.

Consequently these antisemitic Arabs in Paris have an unchallenged right to attack Israel politically and Jews physically. Along with that movements which call themselves erroneously “Leftist” are fully joined at the hip with Islam; Marx Lenin and Trotsky are spinning in their graves I am sorry to say.

 

All of these things mean a huge increase in the level of antisemitism.

One of the very worst things which came to a head during the Gaza war was the intense propaganda against Israel. I live in Spain and it was coming from all sides, from the Media and from confused Spanish people, confused by the lies of the Media

Let me go over a few things.

 

1. The Jews withdrew from Gaza. I mean every single last Jew left Gaza and handed the area over to the Arabs. The Jews even left the Arabs property such as green houses which could be used by the Arabs to help them on their way. The Jews also even left synagogues which stripped of the contents Jews look on as mere buildings. But they were sound concrete structures. They could have been used as youth clubs. The Arabs tore them down stone by stone.

2. But then the Arabs of Gaza promptly elected a Fascist Nazi movement of Jew killers, Hamas, who then stepped up their attacks on Israel. Materially with rockets. Verbally by calls to wipe Israel off the map etc. (They are supporters of Ahmadinejad)

IT CAME DOWN TO A CONCRETE PROBLEM…HOW COULD THE JEWS STOP THE ROCKETS

So basically Israel had to decide how to stop the rockets. It is a fact that the Israeli Labourist Kadima Government members were very weak and unpatriotic and allowed Jews to suffer these rockets for many years.

Still that is not my point here.

Those who have attacked Israel must say 2 things

 

1. They must say that Israel has to simply absorb these rocket attacks on their state. This is antisemitism in action. Is that not clear!

2. They must say that Israel must give in to these attacks on its people and follow the agenda of these antisemitic Arab terrorists which means

*pack up their bags and leaving their Homeland set out on their travels around the world once more as a stateless people

*return to the lines of 1967, from where they were attacked actually in 1967 by Nasser and the other Arab states. So why?

Both of these are also obviously antisemitic suggestions to put to Jews.

 

Becoming again a persecuted people is antisemitic suggestion. No?

Returning to lines which the Arabs used to attack before is antisemitic suggestion as well. No?

And in our next part we will look at some of these antisemitic ideas in action in the West of today.

I take the following from the Harry´s Place website despite certain differences with the organizers there

In the first they take a quote from the notorious Israel hater George Galloway. Here Galloway is comparing the Jews to nazis.

“In April and May of 1943, the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto were surrounded by barbed wire fences, by the occupiers of Poland, and they faced a choice, in the words of the song of the partisans: ‘They could die on their knees or they could live forever’. And they chose to rise up against their occupier, to use their bodies as weapons, to dig tunnels, to fight, not to die in ones and twos of hunger and typhus, but to die as free men and women. Today, the Palestinian people in Gaza are the new Warsaw Ghetto, and those who are murdering them are the equivalent of those who murdered the Jews in Warsaw in 1943.”

So in that quote from Galloway it is clear that the Palestinians of Gaza are the Jews of the Holocaust and that the Jews today of tiny Israel are the Nazis

And the same kind of thing is seen in the next set of pictures. There is the attack on Jews as being Nazis and carrying out a Holocaust of the Arabs.

But 1300 Arabs were killed and Hamas killed some of these through executions etc. Also Hamas set up so that the Israelis had to kill civilian Arabs. I mean it is quite possible to do this.

The British Muslim Initiative, one of the organisers of the demonstrations, put it on their placards:

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As did the Palestinian Forum in Britain:

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So this is conscious.

This is an attempt to make the Jews of Israel out to be Nazis.

And this we argue on this site is the preparation for a new Holocaust of the Jews. Nothing ever is as it seems. And when people argue that the Jews are the Nazis of today then that is going to result in a Holocaust of the Jews.

 

It is such an enormous lie that it must have the most severe intent and implications.

YAMIT82…NOBODY IS LAUGHING OUT LOUD

by Felix Quigley

Israpundit is a very important site for the Jewish people especially now that there has to be organized a great discussion on just how Israel can face up to its enemies.

The news which has emerged from a source within the talks going on between the Israeli ruling class of Livni and Olmert, with the Palestinian Arab fascists presided over by the US Imperialists of Bush, led in the talks by Rice, shows the enormous dangers which Israel and the lives of all Jews are in. This is why we on 4international are very critical of some of the discussions that are taking place there. The most recent issue is over the issue of apostasy and the general position of religion in the Jewish strugggle. Nobody really likes tackling this but it has to be tackled head on if we are to have the discussion necessary for the saving of Israel from its enemies. Continue reading

REPORT SHOWS GREAT DANGER TO ISRAEL…BUT ISRAPUNDIT BETRAYS

By Felix Quigley

Israel is now in the greatest danger that it has ever been in during all of its life. We on 4international have repeatedly emphasised that the way in which Yugoslavia was destroyed (wiped off the map) was through an alliance of American, British and German Imperialism which set up reactionary alliances with Fascist/Nazi entities within Yugoslavia. Those entities were the Fascists around Tudjman in Croatia, the Islamofascists in Bosnia around Izetbegovic, and the Thaci/Haradinaj Fascists and Stalinists of Kosovo. Weak on their own, nevertheless the role of US and NATO/EU Imperialism with all of its power, especially Military power linked to Media power, meant that the Serbs were isolated and defeated. Much of this went on behind the scenes, the public were not aware because the public always underestimates the role of conspiracy and secrecy in how the ruling Capitalist class works.

This is the great danger to the Jews today. Continue reading

THE RETURN OF FASCIST KILLER HARADINAJ

By Felix Quigley

On 4international we intend to follow this man. His name is Ramush Haradinaj, everybody knows he is a killer and has murdered in cold blood many ordinary Serb peasants and simple country folk, we on 4international have already proved that and have exposed the alliance of the US and EU Imperialists with this killer of Serbs, an alliance which goes to the very tops of the US Elite, to Bush, Lieberman, Cheney, Holbrooke and McCain. Continue reading

THE BANKRUPTCY OF SULTAN KNISH…TROTSKYISM WILL NOT BE SILENCED

by Felix Quigley

It is completely impossible to silence Trotskyism in this period because – just as in 1933 – only the policies and political programme of Leon Trotsky, the great Russian Revolutionary Socialist leader, could have saved the lives of 6 millions of Jews who were to perish at the hands of the Fascist Nazis. So therefore the recent horrific attack on Leon Trotsky by Sultan Knish just cannot stand. Continue reading

IMRA POLL REFUTES MANY LIES AGAINST ISRAEL

By Felix Quigley

On November 15, 2007 the results of a very important and comprehensive poll of Israeli Jewish people was taken. The people who carried out this poll were of the highest integrity. The results were interpreted by IMRA.  What is happening in the world today is massive lying about reality. We experienced this on the whole issue of Yugoslavia, it is happening in relation to China and Tibet, it is happening in relation to Russia and the encirclement of Russia by Bush’s US Imperialism, and it is happening in all of the lies told against Israel. Continue reading

US/NATO OWNED HAGUE ICTY KANGAROO COURT FREES KLA MASS MURDERER, RAMUSH HARADINAJ

Compiled by Nathan Pearlstein & Peter Robert North

Just a few days ago, the imperialist US/NATO owned and controlled ICTY Kangaroo Court in the Hague, Netherlands,  released the Islamist Nazi KLA mass murderer, Ramush Haradinaj. 

That they would do this was predicted in early 2005, by Gregory Copley, the president of the prestigious and world-renowned International Strategic Studies Association the parent organization of the Defense & Foreign Affairs group of publications, based in Alexandria, Virginia, in the Washington, D.C. area of the United States.  See their reports on ex-Yugoslavia here:

 http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Balkanindex.htm

What follows is indisputable proof that the United States government – both Republican and Democrat administrations – planned IN ADVANCE all along the early release – or total immunity from prosecution – of virtually every one of the Islamist Nazi terrorist Albanian KLA mass murderers led by Hashim Thaci(e.g. Agim Ceku and Ramush Haradinaj); the Bosnian SDA Islamofascist murderers led by Alija Izetbegovic (e.g. Naser Oric in June 2006); and the Croatian Ustasha Nazi mass murderers led by the late Franjo Tudjman and Stipe Mesic (e.g. Ante Gotovina,Tomislav Mercep, Dobrosav Paraga ).

This repetitive US,NATO/EU intervention on behalf of Islamofascist/Nazi killers of innocent civilians in furtherance of Western geostrategic imperialism (expansion) in the Balkans – with the result being the European expansion of Fascist Islam – has very grave implications not just for the people of Serbia and the rest of Europe, but also grave implications for Israel and the Jewish people.

Ex-Clinton administration “peace envoy” Richard Holbrooke – beneficiary of  the Albanian KLA Islamist Nazi Narco-Terrorist Child Sex Slavery Mafia – gets the president of the US/NATO owned and controlled Hague ICTY Kangaroo Court to free the ex-Kosovo “Prime Minister” and KLA Islamist Nazi war criminal – Ramush Haradinaj – IN ADVANCE of his totally phony “surrender” and “trial” at the Hague ICTY:

“a deal would be struck to ensure that he did not serve prison time for the charges he faced.”  

Continue reading

THE SULTAN KNISH IS A PRO IMPERIALIST

By Felix Quigley

Sultan Knish …what sort of a name is that! It is obviously a fake name and unlike Israpundit, I do not like our writers on 4international to use anything other than their real names. All the same, this really made me laugh:

Sultan introducing his blog:

Named one of the Jewish Press’ Most Worthwhile Blogs, 2006, 2007 and 2008 Cited at Front Page Magazine and One Jerusalem and Little Green Footballs and American Thinker and Hot Air
Quoted by Daniel Pipes , Atlas Shrugs, Debbie Schlussel and Tim Blair, Judith Klinghoffer and Michelle Malkin
Referenced by Michael Savage , AM 770 CHQR – The World Tonight with Rob Breakenridge , 670 WCBM Sean and Frank and Jim Ball  

But I am a revolutionary socialist, Mr Knish, a Trotskyist, and I do not give two figs for all of that top brass in the Jewish world acknowledgement. They might just all be gullible, and wrong. So I will take what he writes about a known enemy of Israel and see how he fares. Quote from Knish first…what I make of his politics following… Continue reading

ISRAEL IS FORCED TO HAND OUT GAS MASKS

Israel Orders Bio/Chemical Warfare Masks

This is a report just out from Exodus Times of today, Thursday April 4, 2008. We are talking once more of gas in the context of the killing of Jews. The links with the Nazi Holocaust, with the founder of the Palestinian Arab movement by main Palestinian Arab and Holocaust Nazi organizer Hajj Amin el Husseini is obvious. In the eyes of these Arab Fascists, like Hamas, Fatah and Hezbullah, the Holocaust did not end. Meanwhile the main issue facing humanity, not just Jews, the threat of Iranian Fascist Mullahs, to bomb Israel with Nuclear, remains the main existentialist question above all others facing Israel. Continue reading

The Vatican’s Holocaust Against The Serbs, Jews & Roma in Ustasha Nazi Croatia From 1941-1945

Posted by Nathan Pearlstein

Soon, in all parks and public transport vehicles, a new inscription appeared: “Entry forbidden to all Serbs, Jews, Gypsies, and dogs.” The Ministry of the Interior, led by Andrija Artukovic, issued the following decree: “All the Serbs and the Jews residing in Zagreb, the Capital of Croatia, must leave the town within 12 hours. Any citizen found to have given them shelter will be immediately executed on the spot.”

The Vatican’s Holocaust

The sensational account of the most horrifying religious massacre of the 20th century

By Avro Manhattan

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Avro Manhattan (1914-1990)

About the Author:

Avro Manhattan was the world’s foremost authority on Roman Catholicism in politics. A resident of London, during WW II he operated a radio station called “Radio Freedom” broadcasting to occupied Europe. He was the author of over 20 books including the best-seller The Vatican in World Politics, twice Book-of-the-Month and going through 57 editions. He was a Great Briton who risked his life daily to expose some of the darkest secrets of the Papacy. His books were #1 on the Forbidden Index for the past 50 years!!

The Vatican’s Holocaust – Revealed at Last!

A sensational account of the most horrifying religious massacre of the 20th century. Startling revelations of forced conversions, mass murder of non-Catholics, Catholic extermination camps, disclosures of Catholic clergy as commanders of concentration camps; documented with names, dates, places, pictures and eyewitness testimony. Continue reading