The past weeks have seen the most horrible lies told against Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders and others in show trials now underway throughout Europe, vicious attacks on all of these and on the English Defence League by writers on many British blogs, one of which is Harry´s Place.

Is it accidental that these were the very forces who told all the damaging lies against the Serbs in Yugoslavia and who teamed up with Izetbegovic, side-kick of the Nazi Arab from Palestine Hajj Amin el Husseini, and who along with the Media actually created the fake Srebrenica massacre story? hardly!

The meeting held yesterday, Sunday, by the English Defence League had one of its leading personalities speak about the need to defend Israel and the Jews against the Jihad against Jews in the Middle East.

This is an affirmation of the position of 4international because anybody who wants to scan back will see that we identified the EDL as a kind of national liberationist movement from the very start.

It is precisely people like Oliver Kamm who told all those lies against the Serbs in Yugoslavia, who propped up the kangaroo Court in the Hague. It is these same people, pretty well exactly, who are now desparate to tell lies about the EDL.

So just listen to what the EDL has to say about Israel and the Jews.

We add to this that all these forces, must be united together against the Palestine State, which is really antisemitism in action, and be firm on the principle that Judea belongs naturally (think of the name) to the Jews.

There must be a new leadership in the world, and in Israel as well, to affirm this principle, No Palestine State and Judea is Jewish full stop.

The report below is by Pamela Geller:

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The English Defence League (EDL) has been meeting with Orthodox Rabbi Nachum Shifren this week ahead of today’s demonstration in support of Israel outside the Israeli embassy in London. This is part of the growing interaction between the EDL and the counter-jihad movement in the US that I enthusiastically support.

Rabbi Nachum Shifren is running for Senate in California. Atlas strongly endorses this candidate. Rabbi Shifren is an Orthodox Rabbi and California State Senate Candidate. Rabbi Shifren has received endorsement from the Jewish community in Los Angeles and  has been praised by organizations throughout the US for his steadfast support for the American Constitution and individual rights. He has built coalitions spanning all ethnic groups (Korean-Americans, African-Americans, Hispanics). The EDL has built similar coalitions.

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According to an interview the Rabbi gave to the Guardian, “The Jewish community is paralyzed with fear, exactly what most radical Muslim agitators want. The people of England are in the forefront of this war – and it is a war. One of the purposes of this visit is to put the kibosh on the notion in the Jewish community that they cannot co-operate with the EDL, which is rubbish.”

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I just received this effusive note from Rabbi Shifren:

Today was one of the biggest most organized demos in London. It was an honor for me, and I was quite humbled with the esteem shown to me by Londoners whom I’ve never met. Something very special happended here today, something the whole world noticed.


When I was introduced at the demo, I got a minute long standing ovation, with shouts of : “Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi” Never in my life have I been appreciate so much. The love was overflowing, they were so grateful for me thinking of them and supporting them. Of course, it was I that was grateful. Today was a shot heard round the world!

Today hundreds of proud Brits stood with the good Rabbi outside the Israeli consulate in support of Israel and against Islamic antisemitism.

Shifren, who is running for the US senate in the upcoming midterm elections, said Britain’s Jewish community should support the EDL.

“The Jewish community is paralyzed with fear, exactly what most radical Muslim agitators want.The people of England are in the forefront of this war – and it is a war. One of the purposes of this visit is to put the kibosh on the notion in the Jewish community that they cannot co-operate with the EDL, which is rubbish,” he said.

Jew hating Muslims and leftists called for attacks and counter actions against the peaceful pro-Israel EDL rally. Apparently the Muslims and the leftists of the fascist UAF tried to silence the truth and keep the Rabbi from speaking …..to no avail. Liberty Alliance has this:

It was also a very eventful day.  Just before the Rabbi spoke, a left wing activist demonstrated the criminal impulses of people who choose to call themselves ‘antifascists’ when he threw water at the sound equipment.  This did take the system down for a while, and when it was restored there was a definite crackle when the Rabbi spoke, as the video footage will inevitably show.  Of course, it is, from a certain point of view, understandable why the left wing activists who stalk the EDL should feel so frustrated.  The turnout for their demo was dismal and a clear indication that their message is being rejected, even, perhaps, by their own followers.  It seems that people are now realising that the propaganda that demonises the EDL is clearly false.  The EDL is an inclusive and ethnically diverse organisation that seeks to preserve and protect the values that have made Britain a haven for those fleeing persecution abroad.  For Britain to continue as a refuge it will be necessary to oppose the gradual imposition of sharia that in many cases is the very source of the persecution that those who arrive on British shores complain about.  Sharia norms, unfortunately, appear to be the very norms that the rulers of Britain now increasingly embrace.

During his speech, Rabbi Shifren severely rebuked the British media for its biased reporting and its unwillingness to address the threat posed by sharia.  Due to the fact that the National Union of Journalists already appears to have a partisan and biased view of the EDL, how are people to believe that what journalists write is anything other than propaganda that does not reflect reality?  It seems that journalists are now incapable of balance when it comes to issues associated with the rise of sharia.  What happened to honest and impartial reporting?

Here is EDL’s Kev Carroll’s speech in London:

I’m standing here today to point out a few things that need to be addressed.

People ask why do we support Israel?

People accuse us of being Zionists or at least being part of a New World Order plot against all Muslims and Islam as a whole, so i’m going to put that conspiratorial crap to bed once and for all to make things crystal clear.

We believe Israel has a right to exist!

We believe Israel has a right to defend itself from Islamist aggression!

And if those two things make me a Zionist then so be it i must be a Zionist!

Many Muslims are indoctrinated from birth through religious teachings to demonize Jews, much like the Nazi propaganda machine of Hitler and the Anti Semitic conspiracies of Nasser whose actions incidentally brought about the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood. This was the birth of modern day Jihad which has evolved and splintered into other terrorist organization all over the world, ones like Al Qaeda.

Quran surah 5 verse 51….

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. God guides not the people of the evildoers

Yes that’s right the Quran tells Muslims not to take Jews and Christians as friends, does this not promote segregation while promoting another supremacist ideology?

Those Muslims who do take Jews and Christians as friends are “one of them”, in other words not a real Muslim!

Quran Surah 9 Verse 29

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued!

So the Quran calls for the subjugation of the people of the book, that’s us Christians and Jews by the way! This entails paying the “jizya” a non Muslim tax payable by those who don’t wish to follow Islam. Those who don’t pay are no longer “protected” citizens and are likely targets of Islamist aggression.

Don’t get me wrong but doesn’t that sound like some kind of mafia protection racket? Well yes it does i suppose, i mean Muhammad raised an Army, and dreams of Empire from this tax, a tax that funded his Armies incursions into Christian, Jewish, Hindu and Buddhist lands so they could be conquered and brought into the fold of Islam.

Quran Surah 5 verse 33

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.

This verse means that nobody can criticize Islam, or reject Muhhamads or Allah’s teachings. By protesting against such teachings i am now considered at the very least, a “mischief maker”, or even by protesting against this 7th century ideology i can be considered as declaring war on Islam in the minds of many Muslims.

So simply criticizing Islam, Muhammad or Allah could see me getting my arms and legs mutilated, it could mean i die by way of crucifixion, or possibly just exile from my indigenous homeland.

Is that tolerance in motion i ask of you?

Is that peaceful?

Does this mean i’m allowed to form an opinion about Islam and criticize it without fear of retribution?

Of course it doesn’t!

Just take the Muhammad cartoons as an example of Islamic tolerance and peace, the rioting, the damage and deaths all over the world!

Islam doesn’t mean peace as some people are led to believe. Islam literally translated means….


I’m not going to submit to that ideology, not now not ever!

Israel is on the front line of Islamist aggression, Israel is a tiny country, the only country in the Middle East that has a functioning democracy. It is a democracy surrounded by supremacist Arab dictatorships who want to wipe it off the face of this earth. Passages from the Quran that i have just read out to you legitimize a train of thought that is instilled in Muslim minds from a very early age. Who can remember a Palestinian state television interview where a toddler was asked what she thought of Jews?

I can remember it very well. The little girl replied…..

“Jews are apes and pigs”

The interviewer asked where she had learned that from and the little girl replied….


Let us never forget the level of indoctrination forced upon such young children who are taught to hate Jews from the very offset, perhaps Palestinians should teach their children love instead, then they may stand a chance for peace?

Israel is the national home of the Jewish People: many other religions live there happily including more than a million Israeli Arabs, both Muslim and Christian

The country is not a religious state like Iran or Saudi Arabia: it is run by a secular democratic government that includes many religions and many non religious people. You won’t have your Bible confiscated at the airport and shredded like in Saudi Arabia.

Before the formation of Israel in 1948, Jews were persecuted and terrorized by Muslims throughout the Arab world, people always think of the Jewish Diaspora from Europe and Russia but there was also a Diaspora from the Middle East. Jews fled from their Muslim hosts because they were being persecuted even though their ancestors lived in those parts long before Islam came along. Jews were being systematically killed and abused long before the state of Israel was founded, yet we are led to believe that this is a recent phenomenon, believe me its not.

I can tell you now its nothing new, this has been going on for quite some time, to blame the creation of the state of Israel for the troubles and hostility towards Jews is just a smokescreen, the hatred, the intolerance and the justification for murder can be found in Islamic texts, and i only read out a few passages of the Quran to you

Since the creation of Israel and long before the so called “occupation” of land won back in the defensive battles of 1967, Israelis have faced torrents of murderous Islamic terrorism.

Israelis live today under constant mortal threat that no other nation has ever faced. Every home built in Israel today has a bomb shelter!

In 2008 when Israel decided after years to take action to stop a rain of rockets on it from southern civilians from Gaza, Hamas set up its control center in the basement of the main hospital in Gaza (which, of course, was built for them by Israel!).

Hamas by the way are a proscribed terrorist organization, you see Muslims marching through our capital city chanting “Bomb Bomb Israel” on Al Quds day. Hamas leaders have been quoted as saying…

“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it”

Hamas have a slogan too and its found in article 8 of their charter….

Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Quran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.

But it gets worse, its about instilling a religious fight as stated in article 15 of its charter….

It is necessary to instill the spirit of jihad (holy war) in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters.

It is necessary that scientists, educators and teachers, information and media people, as well as the educated masses, especially the youth and sheiks of the Islamic movements, should take part in the operation of awakening (the masses).

It is necessary to instill in the minds of the Muslim generations that the Palestinian problem is a religious problem, and should be dealt with on this basis.

Again i’m highlighting the religious indoctrination of Palestinian Muslims! And this is also highlighted in yet more Islamic scripture, this scripture is propagated by Islamists the world over…..

“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”

Now you tell me how the hell do we reason with those who believe in this intolerant murderous shite?

We cant!

Did you know there has never been a country called Palestine?

Palestine is a name, invented by the Romans, based on the name of the Philistines, who were sea people mostly from Crete, who had also invaded Israel before the Romans arrived. They certainly were not Arabs so why Palestinians try to re-invent history to legitimize their cause is a matter for them to explain, Palestinians/Philistines are one and the same according to them.

We know differently!

In fact other Arabs know this is true, let me give you an example and i quote Syrian President Hafez Assad to PLO leader Yassir Arafat……

“Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian People, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria.

Yes even other Arab leaders know the lies about a “Palestinian people”

And to further compound this fact. In 1977 Zohair Mohsin – PLO executive council member, said…..

“It is only for tactical reasons that we carefully stress our Palestinian identity for it is in the national interest of the Arabs to encourage a separate Palestinian identity to counter Zionism, the founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the ongoing battle against Israel”

When you look at all these fascist Quotations i have given you from the mouths of Islamists who want to implement Allah’s laws worldwide, when i quote the fascist Islamic texts is it any wonder Hitler had a grand mufti who helped him with the genocide of Jews worldwide? An Islamic supporter who even visited Hitlers Muslim Nazi soldiers to give his blessing in the name of Allah?

Fascism must attract fascism, no matter what form it takes. As far as i can tell Islamism and Nazi’ism are just opposite sides of the same coin.

Anyway i would just like to thank Rabbi Shiffren for coming here today to support us and our cause.

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