ABBAS SAYS IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO RECOGNIZE ISRAEL

by Felix Quigley

August 9, 2009

We believe that there must be a United Front created to stand with Jews, Serbs and many others against the US and EU Empire which are in alliance with Islamofascism.

 

Israel has no alternative but to strike against the Iranian Fascist Nuclear bomb and call on the Iranian people, especially the youth, for understanding and support.

A United Front means that there is unity against that comon enemy but inside the United Front there is freedom of discussion.

 

It seems that the issue centres on this

 

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It was a packed audience at the Begin-Sadat Center in Bar Ilan University, and all eyes of the world were looking on. As reported, Netanyahu, not unlike many of his predecessors, agreed at least in principle to the creation of a Palestinian state. The conditions he laid out – recognition of Israel as a Jewish homeland and a demilitarized “Palestine” – though, are probably conditions that the Palestinians cannot and will not fulfill. The Palestinian people are controlled not by one, but by two terrorist organizations, which curse Zionism and deny Israel’s right to exist. In view of the Prime Minister’s words, one has to question whether this is something he understands.

During Netanyahu’s speech, regarding the subject of Israel’s peace partners and enemies, he contradicted himself in a major way. At one point, he stated, “I appeal to you, our Palestinian neighbors, and to the leadership of the Palestinian Authority. Let us begin peace negotiations immediately…” This, while towards the end of the speech, he strongly declared, “Israel will not sit at the negotiating table with terrorists who seek its destruction.”

The reason why the two statements contradict one another is because the organization Prime Minister Netanyahu is pursuing peace talks with, the Palestinian Authority (PA), is run by Fatah, a terrorist organization which “seeks” Israel’s “destruction” – precisely the type of group that he insists Israel will not sit with!

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http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3993

 The article then goes into lots of detail about this very murky movement. Read it, study it, yourself.

 

 

It seems that the Fatah was supposed under Arafat to have changed its founding rules. But that was a bit of fakery. It has not.

 

The result is that Fatah is till calling for the destruction of Israel.

 

At times this is slightly covered by calling for the destruction of Zionist Israel.

 

These people in Fatah were trained in the Stalinist school of lies, actually they werre trained physically in Moscow.

The big lie of the times was that Zionism was Nazism etc.

 

But Zionism has always been Jewish nationalism, the nationalism of the Jewish people.

 

No different to Irish or any other nationalism.

 

 

The other thing about this Fatah is that on their websites and speeches they tend to have one version in English, one in Arabic. They are not the same!

 

This is the bind that Israeli elites are in. Reach an agreement with who, with a group which is out for your destruction

Last week Palestinian Media Watch director Itamar Marcus made a presentation in the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Representatives, stressing the continued rejection of the basic principles of peace by the Palestinian Authority in its Arabic media. Mr. Marcus focused on the Palestinian Authority’s continued support for violence, terror and terror glorification, as expressed by numerous Fatah leaders and the PA media in anticipation of the Fatah Sixth General Conference.

Following the presentation lIleana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), Ranking Republican on the committee, released a statement calling on the US to make demands of the Fatah Party at the current Fatah Sixth General Conference, and that US aid to the PA should be conditional upon fulfillment of these meaningful steps towards peace:

    “The U.S. should demand that Abu Mazen and Fatah reform their charter, renounce and combat violent extremism, stop using Israel-free maps, and recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state. 

    “If they do not, the U.S. should condition assistance to the PA on such meaningful steps to embrace a real and lasting peace with Israel.”

Earlier last week PMW issued a bulletin recommending that Fatah, at its Sixth General Conference should eliminate these four principles, cited by Cong. Ros-Lehtinen, that are serious obstacles to a peaceful solution.

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The following is the previous PMW Bulletin about peace promotion steps the Fatah could take at their Conference:

Historic opportunity at Fatah Sixth General Conference:
Eliminate 4 foundations of the conflict and join the peace process

Starting Aug. 4, 2009, the Fatah movement will convene its Sixth General Conference – the first such gathering in 20 years and the first since the 1993 signing of the Oslo Accords. This official gathering offers a historic and unique opportunity for Fatah, and for Mahmoud Abbas, Chairman of both Fatah and the Palestinian Authority, to officially and publicly eradicate four Fatah principles that are basic foundations of the conflict. This would demonstrate to the world and to Palestinians that the Palestinians have joined the peace process.

1- Fatah does not recognize Israel’s right to exist. Fatah leaders emphasize that this ideology is current and not merely an oversight.

Mahmoud Abbas:

    “It is not required of Hamas, or of Fatah, or of the Popular Front to recognize Israel.” [Al-Arabiya TV [Dubai] and PATV Oct. 3, 2006]

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Muhammad Dahlan, senior Fatah MP:

    “I want to say for the thousandth time, in my own name and in the name of all of my fellow members of the Fatah movement: We do not demand that the Hamas movement recognize Israel. On the contrary, we demand of the Hamas movement not to recognize Israel, because the Fatah movement does not recognize Israel, even today.” [PA TV March 17, 2009]

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2- Fatah continues to use maps that don’t acknowledge Israel’s existence.

President Barack Obama has condemned such maps as a threat to Israel’s security:

Obama:

    “I will never compromise when it comes to Israel’s security… Not when there are terrorist groups and political leaders committed to Israel’s destruction. Not when there are maps across the Middle East that don’t even acknowledge Israel’s existence.”

[AIPAC Conference, June 4, 2008]

In photo to the right, note PA flag and word “Palestine” in English at top of map. [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Apr. 28, 2009]

Such a map also appears as an official Fatah symbol under guns and under the PLO flag. When this symbol was created it had only one meaning – that Fatah would destroy Israel through violence. This map is not merely a historical symbol. Today Fatah promotes this symbol and it appears no fewer than 11 times on the official Fatah website home page.

At the coming Fatah Conference, will Abbas sit under the official Fatah symbol, a symbol that to Palestinians implies the goal of destroying Israel?

In photo to the right: Fatah website home page

3- Fatah charter still calls for Israel’s destruction
Fatah’s charter, calling for Israel’s destruction, is still valid and still appears on Fatah’s website:

    Article 8: “The Israeli existence in Palestine is a Zionist invasion with a colonial expansive base, and it is a natural ally to colonialism and international imperialism.” 

    Article 19: “Armed struggle is a strategy and not a tactic, and the Palestinian Arab People’s armed revolution is a decisive factor in the liberation fight and in uprooting the Zionist existence, and this struggle will not cease unless the Zionist state is demolished and Palestine is completely liberated.”

Link to Fatah charter on Fatah site

4- Fatah continues to endorse violence and terror
On many occasions Fatah leaders have echoed the Hamas policy of justifying a ceasefire as a temporary or tactical measure:

Mahmoud Abbas:

    “Now we are against armed conflict because we are unable. In the future stages, things may be different… I was honored to be the one to shoot the first bullet in 1965 [Fatah terror against Israel began in 1965], and having taught resistance to many in this area and around the world, defining it and when it is beneficial and when it is not… we had the honor of leading the resistance. We taught everyone what resistance is, including the Hezbollah, who were trained in our camps [i.e. PLO camps in ’60s and ’70s].”
    [Al-Dustur (Jordan), Feb. 28, 2008]

Muhammad Dahlan, senior Fatah MP: “The political plan guarantees the continuation of our national struggle in all its forms…”

PA TV host: “If so, the [violent] resistance and struggle continue.”

Muhammad Dahlan: “This is our right, a legal right. The international community affirms it for us. But it is the responsibility of the leadership to use it when it wants, in the proper place and at the proper time. We cannot leave it in the hands of youth who use their own judgment. This is the difference between [PA] using this right and just anyone using it. I lived with Chairman Yasser Arafat for years. Arafat would condemn [terror] operations by day while at night he would do honorable things. I don’t want to say any more about this.”

[PATV (Fatah), July 22, 2009]
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Conclusion – Historic opportunity for Fatah to join the peace process

    – If Abbas’s Fatah refuses to recognize Israel,
    then a peace process has not yet begun.
    – If Abbas sits under a map of Israel as “Palestine”,
    then a peace process has not yet begun.
    – If Abbas’s Fatah charter calls for Israel’s destruction,
    then a peace process has not yet begun.
    – If Abbas’s Fatah continues endorsing armed conflict,
    then a peace process has not yet begun.
    You will find this with comments on
    http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16149#more-16149
    You must however spend some time and go to the site of Palestine Media Watch where homefully the url below will bring you a wealth of detail, where you will see a video of Abbas saying “it is not required of Fatah, or of Hamas, or of the Popular Front, to recognize Israel”.
    Mahmoud Abbas:

    “It is not required of Hamas, or of Fatah, or of the Popular Front to recognize Israel.”
    [Al-Arabiya TV [Dubai] and PATV Oct. 3, 2006] 
     

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