BBC IGNORES SHARIA AMPUTATIONS…READ THIS

Welcome to the world of sharia law. More on this story. “Somalis watch double amputations,” from Reuters, June 25: Hardline Islamists in Somalia have carried out double amputations on four men for stealing phones and guns.

They have each had a hand and foot cut off after being convicted by a Sharia court in the capital earlier this week.

More then 300 people, mainly women and children, watched as masked men cut off their limbs with machetes.

The four men reportedly admitted to the robberies, but were not represented by a lawyer and were not allowed to appeal against their sentence.

The al-Shabab group, which controls much of southern Somalia, has carried out amputations, floggings and an execution in the port of Kismayo but such punishments are rare in the capital.

The amputations were carried out in the open in front of an al-Shabab military camp in the north-east of Mogadishu. A local resident said the four men cried out during and after the amputations. Each man had his right hand and left foot cut off.

“‘Help, help, help!’ one of them shouted,” Mohamed Abdi told the BBC.

Eyewitnesses estimate the age of the four men – Aden Mohamud, Ismail Khalif , Jeylani Mohamed, and Abdulkadir Adow – to be between 18 and 25.

 Mr Abdi said the whole process took about an hour to complete.

‘Torture’ Human rights lobby group Amnesty International has condemned the amputations.

“These punishments amount to torture,” said Tawanda Hondora, Amnesty’s Africa deputy director.

The group says that committing torture could amount to a war crime.

After the four were sentenced to double amputations on Monday, mosques in the area announced through their loud speakers that the amputations would take place at 0800 local time on Thursday. Al-Shabab spokesman Ali Mohamud Rage told journalists that the amputations were a warning to all thieves. “If they are caught red-handed in similar circumstances, they will face amputation,” he said. He also said al-Shabab would look after the welfare of the amputees… Posted by Raymond at June 25, 2009

 

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SOLOMONIA ASSERTS PALESTINIANS IN TEHERAN!

Wednesday, June 17, 2009

Hamas in Tehran

I’ve often heard that the Iranian security forces use a lot of Palestinian Arabs. Sounds like it’s really showing at the moment: ‘Hamas helping Iran crush dissent’

Palestinian Hamas members are helping the Iranian authorities crush street protests in support of reformist presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, two protesters told The Jerusalem Post On Tuesday…

…Hamas formally welcomed incumbent Ahmadinejad’s ostensible reelection victory on Saturday. The Palestinian Islamist movement receives arms and funding from Iran, and its members have often received training there, including in terror tactics and weapons manufacture…

…”The most important thing that I believe people outside of Iran should be aware of,” the young man went on, “is the participation of Palestinian forces in these riots.”

Another protester, who spoke as he carried a kitchen knife in one hand and a stone in the other, also cited the presence of Hamas in Teheran.

On Monday, he said, “my brother had his ribs beaten in by those Palestinian animals. Taking our people’s money is not enough, they are thirsty for our blood too.”

It was ironic, this man said, that the victorious Ahmadinejad “tells us to pray for the young Palestinians, suffering at the hands of Israel.” His hope, he added, was that Israel would “come to its senses” and ruthlessly deal with the Palestinians.

When asked if these militia fighters could have been mistaken for Lebanese Shi’ites, sent by Hizbullah, he rejected the idea. “Ask anyone, they will tell you the same thing. They [Palestinian extremists] are out beating Iranians in the streets… The more we gave this arrogant race, the more they want… [But] we will not let them push us around in our own country.”…

 

INTERESTING COMMENT ON THE “NEW HISTORIANS”

This is another important article on Harrys Place. It concerns an Israel hater called Ben White whose politics mirror almost all of the fake Islamist supporting “left”. It is noteworthy in that a comment by “Mikey” introduces the vital work by Efraim Karsh and the issue of the “New Historians” as we have always said really “Old Liars”

First the review

This is a guest post by Jonathan Hoffman

Ben White is a freelance writer about the Middle East. His work appears often on ‘Comment Is Free’. He has tried to argue that Ahmadinejad did not deny the Holocaust and has written

“I do not consider myself an anti-Semite, yet I can also understand why some are.”

His new book “Israeli Apartheid: A Beginner’s Guide” was launched in the British Parliament on Wednesday night (a meeting in the parliament needs a Member to sponsor it – Brian Idden MP in this case).

The forward to the book is written by John Dugard, the South African lawyer who made the apartheid analogy, as a result of which Israel refused to allow him to conduct a UN-mandated fact-finding mission on its Gaza offensive in 2006. Desmond Tutu – whom Alan Dershowitz called a ‘racist and a bigot’ – says

“This book deals rationally and cogently with a topic that almost always generates heat…”

The blurb also has a favourable quote from Pappe. Stephen Sizer says

“If you really care about peace in the Middle East, read this book”.

I have not read the book, but judging by White’s presentation it belongs in the fiction category.

He began by saying

“Israel would prefer to disappear the Palestinians”.

We have one doctored quote after another. “A land without a people…” which of course was never said by any Jew, let alone any Zionist leader. David Ben-Gurion never said “We must expel Arabs and take their places.” He in fact said “We do not wish and do not need to expel Arabs and take their places.”

There was no ‘transfer consensus’ by which the Zionist leaders in 1948 agreed to transfer Arabs out. in fact the Mayor of Haifa, Shabtai Levy, on 22 April begged the Arabs to stay.

It is simply not true that “half the dispossessed Palestinians had already been kicked out by the time of the Declaration of the State of Israel”.

‘Plan Dalet’ was not a plan to expel Arabs. As Benny Morris has written, “There was no Zionist “plan” or blanket policy of evicting the Arab population, or of “ethnic cleansing”. Plan Dalet (Plan D), of March 10th, 1948 (it is open and available for all to read in the IDF Archive and in various publications), was the master plan of the Haganah – the Jewish military force that became the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) – to counter the expected pan-Arab assault on the emergent Jewish state. That’s what it explicitly states and that’s what it was. ” (Irish Times, 21 February 2008)

And so on.

I remonstarted at the lies and Idden threatened me with eviction (the third time at Israel hatefests in nine days). My friend was jeered at when she sauid her (Jewish-sounding) name before she asked her question. Iddon said he would take statements after the questions then refused to let me talk saying they were out of time.

On the way out I was told that “the Nazis should have finished the job”.

The book is to be discussed at a meeting (also in London) organised by the Charity “War on Want” on 9 July. Just as adverts must be ‘legal, decent, honest and truthful’ so the material that Charities produce must be ‘legal, decent honest and truthful’. That is what Guidance Note CC9 from of the Charity Commission appears to require. It doesn’t actually use the words ‘legal, decent honest and truthful’. What it says is that the material charities produce must be “factually accurate and have a legitimate evidence base”.

“War on Want” sells a £4 Christmas card depicting Joseph and a pregnant Mary being accosted by two IDF soldiers by the wall, with a checkpoint in the background decked with an Israeli flag and with a rifle pointing out of it. “War on Want” and other charities sponsored the anti-Israel ‘Enough!” march in London in May 2007 and during ‘Cast Lead’ it put out Press Releases which were clearly biased. Now it is organising a launch of this book.

Don’t bother waiting for either Ben White or War on Want to condemn the conduct of last week’s Iranian election. You could be waiting a long time.

 

And second that comment introducing Efraim karsh by “Mikey”

If one is interested in the debunking some of the claims that Jonathan refers to his article, I highly recommend the following book:

Efraim Karsh: Fabricating Israeli History: The ‘New Historians’, Second Revised Edition (London: Frank Cass, 2000)

One can also refer to the article by Karsh in the September 2003 issue of Commentary and the exchange of views on that article between Karsh and Benny Morris in the letters pages of the December 2003 and March 2004 issues of the same magazine.

 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/06/19/a-work-of-fiction/

KHAMEINI´S FASCIST COUP DÉTAT

by Felix Quigley

December 20, 2009

A discussion on Iran at Harry´s Place

The introduction was the following

Those saying that Khamenei’s sermon Thursday was a conciliatory one and a call for calm are living in a dream world. The fact that Ayatollah Khamanei called the millions of people who came to the streets in the past few days “agents of the West” and called the election fair and historic is shocking and divisive, but expected.

His unwavering support for Ahmadinejad and the unwillingness to investigate the vote has made it impossible for any compromise to be reached.

This speech was absolutely meant to terrify the Iranian people off the streets and back into their homes. He has now stated that any protest is illegal and that any violence will be the responsibility of the opposition.

His calls for using legal systems for protesting the election results are meaningless when those laws have already been circumvented to declare Ahmadinejad the winner. Saying that Iran is a great democracy is also meaningless when any protest is illegal and lethal force is used to crack down on demonstrators.

There were 2 noteworthy comments to this

First from “Field”

Those saying that Khamenei’s sermon Thursday was a conciliatory one and a call for calm are living in a dream world. The fact that Ayatollah Khamanei called the millions of people who came to the streets in the past few days “agents of the West” and called the election fair and historic is shocking and divisive, but expected.

His unwavering support for Ahmadinejad and the unwillingness to investigate the vote has made it impossible for any compromise to be reached.

This speech was absolutely meant to terrify the Iranian people off the streets and back into their homes. He has now stated that any protest is illegal and that any violence will be the responsibility of the opposition.

His calls for using legal systems for protesting the election results are meaningless when those laws have already been circumvented to declare Ahmadinejad the winner. Saying that Iran is a great democracy is also meaningless when any protest is illegal and lethal force is used to crack down on demonstrators.

Second from Mettaculture

For me the speech shows that Khameini iis not the all powerful wise one, but someone who deep down realises that he has been out manoeuvred by Khameini and his Iraq war veterans military power base.

Caesar is now the puppet of his captain of the praetorian guard.

Moussavi is clearly the candidate that represents the old power of the clerical Khomeini’ists of the Revolution and would be the far more compliant president for Khameini, if he were any longer in any position of real rather than symbolic power.

This now has all the ingredients for an intra regime driven civil war.

The clerics of Qom are for Mousavi and against Ahmadinejad who they must see as having betrayed the ideals of the Islamic revolution, exchanging the Kingdom of Allah for a Military dictatorship in the name of Allah.

The Islamic Theo-political regime shows us how weak and unstable a theo-politics is as the politics is winning over the theology shifting to a military politico-theological regime.

The two are irreconcilable through history but the separation of church and state only happens with a strong state not a strong church.

I am afraid that Iran may need another 30 years before demographic and technological change see off the old guard of both the revolution and the Iraq war, which has created the character of modern Iran even more strongly than the Islamic revolution.

I don’t want to see huge numbers of people killed for what is a the regime wins in any event scenario.

If Khameini had sided with the clerics and the idealistic principles of the revolution, and chosen Moussavi to do this, rather than with military power in his his own self interest, he could have faced down the massive engine of repression that Ahminedjad now seems to be in control of (with his probable active conniving prior to this election).

As it is Moussavi’s immense stature within the conservative elements of the regime is now compromised and denied legitimacy.

it is a fascist military coup d’etat indeed and apparently a well planned one.

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/06/20/permission-for-a-bloodbath/

 

What I feel is left out even though I do not have as much information as has say mettaculture is the issue of

1. the nature of the world crisis

2. the role of the US Government and its relationship with Islamofascism, remembering that these western governments supported Islamofascism (Izetbegovic) in the Balkans

3. they leave out totally the issue of leadership

4. they tend to downplay the revolutionary nature of the youth and mix up content and appearance.

We will write more on this on Monday.

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THE “PALESTINIANS” ARE IN IRAN ATTACKING THE YOUTH!

by Felix Quigley

April 20, 2009

Of course they are. They have to be there and these are witness reports which affirms it. It was Arafat who was first on the scene in Iran in 1979 in support of Khomeiny which is normal and what you would expect since Arafat is a close relative of the Nazi Islamist Hajj Amin el Husseini who played a very leading role in the Holocaust of the Jews.

So it would be one big surprise if Fatah and Hamas (whom the journalist Stephen Ritson calls a resistance movement) were not on the streets of Teheran keeping order for the Islamists.

The discussion on Jihadwatch to this very issue I have found so interesting I take the liberty of reprinting it here for our readers. I agree with Robert the Palestinians being there is THE number one issue.

[begin discussion on Jihadwatch here]

It was ironic, this man said, that the victorious Ahmadinejad “tells us to pray for the young Palestinians, suffering at the hands of Israel.” His hope, he added, was that Israel would “come to its senses” and ruthlessly deal with the Palestinians….

Thats just plain weird.

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Mangoicious  56p · 2 days ago

Wow to hear a Muslim say Israel should ruthlessly deal with the Palestinians.. that’s incredible.

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THIS COMMENT BY HUGH IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT

 

Hugh  96p · 2 days ago

Who trained Khomeini’s bezonians?
It was the PLO, and Yassir Arafat was happy to help.
Who was Khomeini’s very first honored foreign guest, when he first came to power and started his reign of terror?
It was PLO Chairman Yassir Arafat, whose henchman for years Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas), fresh from receiving his Holocaust-denying doctorate from MGU (Moskovskij Gosudarstvennij Universitet imeni Lomonosova, promptly went to work for the PLO) is now the head of the Slow Jihadists of Fatah.
Who today helps the secret services of the Iranian dictatorship?
Hamas and Hezbollah.
Hezbollah and Hamas.

But let’s go further back.

Who brought, to the advanced and superior civilisation of Persia, Islam?
It was the Arab invaders, the Arabs who attempted to wipe out the Persian language and literature and culture, as they did everywhere they went, but in Iran were repelled not by warriors but by Firdousi, Hafez, Sa’adi, and Omar Khayyam, who through artistic creation and the preservation of Iranian history in verse, prevented the same Arab linguistic and cultural imperialism from succeeding as it had in so many other places, all over North Africa and the MIddle East.

The “gift of the Arabs.” Possibly it is time for at least some Iranians to “Return To Sender.”

One hopes, in any case, that the role of the “Palestinians” — the Gazan Arabs and “West Bank” Arabs and those who swell the UNRWA ranks claiming, not always truthfully, to be descendants of those “West Bank” or Gazan Arabs, so that they can remain permanently on the Infidel-taxpayer-supplied aid, through Arab-administered UNRWA — will never be forgotten by the Iranians who are now being beaten up, forced on the run, or even killed.

What, in the long history of Persia, have the Arabs ever brought to Persia that was for the good?
What?

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Odyessus  60p · 2 days ago

A little off-topic but…….

Have you read some of the bizarre opinions Robert Fisk has expressed lately in the Independent?

Such as describing Mohammad Khatami as “saintly” on 12/06/09.

You have to wonder if this “saintly” man repealed the laws making the age of consent for Iran girls being nine.

Statements Khatami himself has said include

“talk of changing the constitution amounts to changing the state. This is treachery”.

“Let me remind you that I did not come in the name of reform”.

This is what British politician, David Alton, said of Khatami

“in one year alone, in 1988, 30,000 political prisoners were butchered, an atrocity that has never once been condemned by Khatami. Indeed, as the Sunday Telegraph reported on 4th February, it is alleged that he was complicit in the massacre. It also begs a question, which I put to the Minister, as to whether we are pressing for those responsible to be tried for crimes against humanity. Amnesty International points out that under President Khatami, the reformer, there have been 800 executions. The question for us is whether such a regime is one in which we should be investing morally and politically.”

For Mr Fisk, it seems, there is no such question.

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heatsketch  67p · 2 days ago

I agree with the quoted Iranian… Israel really needs to wake up! There can be no peace solution with Jihadists!

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HeadHeretic  34p · 2 days ago

Iran under the Shah was one of the most progressive Muslim countries ever. It is too bad that most “reform” in the Muslim world comes from the top down like in Turkey in past days, or Egypt under Sadat.
I say let Iran fall apart then trick the Saudis into invading them…that should distract the Muslim world for a decade or two or internecine infighting while diverting a lot of money from soft jihad in the West.

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RuslanT  59p · 2 days ago

“Palestinians” played a key role in the Khomeini revolution in 1978 that brought the Mullahs to power in the first place, and in the US Embassy takover on Nov. 4, 1979, and just 17 days later, on Nov. 21, 1979, they also led the Pakistani mob who attacked and burned down the US Embassy in Pakistan, horribly butchering and murdering 4 people – all this during the reign of Carterus. And yet, both Carterus and Obamus Carterus are always ready to bat for the “Palesinians” who sided with all the worst enemies of the United States during the past century. Both betray Israel to aid the “Palestinian” enemy.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

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Findalis  56p · 2 days ago

Without the Mullahs, Hamas will have to find another source of weapons. They are linked so badly that if one falls, the rest will fall.

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infantryjj  2p · 2 days ago

Totally off topic, but I think important. The Boeing Company has blocked internet access to Jihadwatch. It says it’s filters recognize Jihadwatch as a HATE site. Someone needs to confront these people.

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infantryjj  2p · 2 days ago

A defense contractor that makes a boatload of money each day selling products to defeat the global jihad thinks that a website which links news reports about Islam is a hate site. WTF! Expose these hypocrites!

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Abu_Lahab  76p · 2 days ago

I have got this through email today, still have no verification.
Here’s an excerpt:

As the large news agencies are woefully uninformed on the situation in Iran, I’m here to fill in the details.
1. The goons in armor that you are seeing beating and killing unarmed civilians are Hamas and Hezbollah. They are paid killers brought in from Palestine and Lebanon to quell the uprising. The Iranian Regime knows that Iranians are very hesitant to fire on their own people, and has thus adopted the wise strategy of bringing in foreign mercenaries.
2. The body count that is being reported is well below the true number.
3. Word has gone out not to use the Ambulances. They are torturing then killing the wounded, then burying the bodies in mass graves.
4. Iranians Freedom Fighters have adopted new strategies. Hamas troops have been taking down apartment buildings and killing the inhabitants. The Iranians have started fleeing their buildings as the set them on fire, thus trapping the assault troops in an inferno.

Anyone else seen this in their inbox?

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RuslanT  59p · 2 days ago

Grahamr, what most visitors here already know, but might surprise you, I am originally from a Muslim minority in Russia. I am now a non-practicing Muslim, a Muslim for identification purposes only. I am well aware that Islamism is the greatest threat to humankind, and determined to oppose and fight it, ballot or bullet, word or sword. I identify a lot with the German anti-Nazi author Hans Habe who fought his fellow Germans and passionatelly called on the US to join Britain in defending against Hitler. The US did not listen, and got attacked, from both oceans. As for Russia, I am objective here: it has its faults, but in the Balkans it is a fully positive force, while the US is squarely allied with the forces of pure evil. Its anti-Russian imperial strategy aids the Global Jihad. Instead of trying to win Russia over as an ally against jihad, it aids jihad against Russia and Serbia.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

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RuslanT  59p · 2 days ago

Grahamr, in response to your ?, I am now an American citizen, which motivates me all the more to speak out against the wrongs committed by my US government. Throughout that memorable year of 1999, I held countless “one-man rallies” in downtown Seattle, protesting the US and NATO Kosovo war on Albanian terrorists’ side and against the Serb victims, signs and posters all around me using language more ferocious than that in any of my posts here. Crowds gathered and asked questions which confirmed what I already knew: the vast majority of Americans had no idea what their government was doing in their name. I knew, and was enraged. Exactly 10 years later, I still am. Kosovo, I will never get over. I have no doubt whatsoever that 9/11 was punishment for Kosovo. Indeed, the CIA criminals threw away German tip on a future 9/11 hijacker Marwan al-Shehhi, because, as they themselves admit, they were too busy helping Albanian KLA terrorists murder Serb civilians.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

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RuslanT  59p · 2 days ago

Thank you, Hugh. An apt quote from a wise Russian fable-writer Krylov.
Ruslan.

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dumbledoresarmy  99p · 2 days ago

Interesting, this bit, when the angry Persian says: “Taking our people’s money is not enough, they are thirsty for our blood too.”

Rephrase as: ‘Why should we give money / aid to the ‘palestinian’ Arabs when all they want to do is kill us?”.

Right on mate. There’s plenty of folks in the west, too, whose governments have *ALSO* – for entirely different reasons to those motivating the ayatollahs – been pouring their citizens’ money down the ratholes of Gaza and Ramallah and Jenin, etc, and who have become aware that the overweening desire of the jihadis who inhabit those rat-holes, is to kill (or at best enslave) the donors.

Obvious thing to do, if one can manage it, is to stop giving money to the ungrateful murderous b*st*rds. What fun if, for entirely different reasons, yet activated by a very similar disgust, BOTH ‘the West’ AND assorted Muslims were to simply stop giving money to the shock-troops of Jihad, in and around Israel.

This young man in Iran – in Persia – is a Persian Muslim; and he will, therefore, given that Islam is at its core a rationale for Arab Imperialism, Arab supremacism, NEVER be seen as an equal by ARAB Muslims. In the glee with which Arab Muslims are seizing their excuse to kill Persian Muslims, this young man is getting a hint of the horrid fact that he and his are despised.

Arabs on top, in the ummah; everyone else, Persians and Pakistanis and Malays below that, to be used and abused (the Arab Muslim jihadis in Afghanistan did not endear themselves to the locals by their obvious contempt for the non-Arabs); and right at the bottom the black Muslims, slave-fodder, eunuch-fodder.

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CHOI  61p · 2 days ago

Abu Lahad,
Saw a second or two of a Burning Building in Tehran on ,I believe FOX, but no Reference per se to what ,why, or WHOM.
This is COMPLETELY Believable about Palestinian (Fatah & Hamas) and Lebanese(Hezbollah).
The Mullahs Learned from 1979 NOT to make the SAME Mistakes today, that the Shah,FORCED by Carter’s actions and NON-ACTIONS,had to make.
It’s OBVIOUS that their Nurturing of Hezbollah and now Hamas as well, had another Target in addition to Israel, THEIR OWN IRANIAN /PERSIAN POPULATION.
As Iran gets CLOSER to a Nuclear Weapon, They are INCREASINGLY More OUTRAGEOUS!
NOW is Not the time to just be “Present”
It’s Time to SHOW UP for the Free World ,Right NOW!

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AlarmedPigFarmR  62p · 2 days ago

On Tuesday two protesters told The Jerusalem Post that Palestinian Hamas members are helping the Iranian authorities crush street protests in support of Mousavi.

Brothers in arms is all. That’s why they call it the Land of Islam, that’s why they call their precious belief system Surrender, and they ain’t talking about being on the business end of a surrender, either.

*** 3:19 ***

Lo! Religion with Allah is Surrender.
— God belatedly giving his new religion a name in Koran 3:19

Mousavi and Prez Mahmoud are on the same page. Just a nasty little spat of careerism here. Nothing to see here, folks, please move along. Prez Obama did, so should you.

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Czechmade  73p · 2 days ago

The Persians call islam “arab occupation”, Khomeini regime they call “second arab occupation” and this might be the third one – but this time they will fail. Some Turks call islam also disdainfully “arap dini” – arabic religion.

This might be the last chapter of islam in Iran. The final seal of prophet – a little silly monkey – Ahmedinejad the stupid. Even little kids in Iran know who is the monkey. A bogey man – who brings islam to your neighbourhood.

We had the same – the last communist monkey (to close the communst chapter in Czechoslovakia) – called Miloš Jakeš. I have recognized immediately Ahmed as such genius. These ultraorthodox morons or monkeys have a magic power to destroy their own regimes…please give them some credit.

Having him in Iran saved us probably many years of tedious opposition fights, tricks, hiding, compromises, silly pseudoreforms. Even nuclear bomb. I hope Israel will build one day a monument to Ahmeds stupidity in Haifa or Tel-Aviv and celebrate his true greatness. That might bring a lot of Iranian tourists. All laughing at the monument and enjoying the ice-cream with the family.

Yes – the mullahs got something quite reliable in him to keep their privileges and businesses. Alas – too reliable. Alas – showing too much of the greatness of islam and islamic revolution – in his face, threats, boasting, cowardly criminal acts and inspired speeches.

In 2009 – a little lonely monkey defeats islam – what a shame: talking heads, analysts, academics, secret services! You should have studied all the monkey political law.

And if I am right – expect more chain reactions. Oh, poor jihadis, you want to conquer Europe, unable to keep Iran? Who will send money to you? To Bosna, Lebanon, Gaza? I hope Iranians will claim all the money back. Work hard!

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PIMP  67p · 2 days ago

Iran for the last 29 years has been ruled by the ayatollahas. almost half of the iranians are less then 30 years old. These people have seen that the islamists in power, have given them poverty, drug abuse, boredom, oppression, and general discontent. many of these are dissadents, they oppose everything that the ruling ayatollahas and their henchmen stand for. don’t surprised that these young people express very strong pro western and anti ayatollahas feelings.

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HourglassF  61p · 2 days ago

This is not a new thing unfortunately. During the early times following the islamic revolution, my parents had an ugly encounter with one of those arab imported thugs. My parents were walking in the street and this militia man went up to my mum and right up into her face and started screaming at her in arabic and waving his hands around in a threatening manner. My mum had no idea why this neanderthal was screaming at her but instinctly put her hands to her head to see whether her hijab was on “correctly” and scanned the rest of her body as to whether she was properly dressed according to “islamic ideals”. My dad lost his cool and shoved the twirp and screamed back “What are you saying? We dont understand you. Speak Farsi or atleast Armenian so I can understand why you would be treating my wife in such an ugly manner”

30 years on and my parents are still p*ssed off about that incident.

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flowerknife_us  70p · 2 days ago

Another Family Feud! A Grudge match over the Pie being made with Rotten or Wormy Apples. I suppose we should support the Wormy Apples. If your handy with a knife you might save enough of the Fruit.

In the mean time, let them throw the Apples at each other while the crust is baking.

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Sashland  50p · 2 days ago

Free Persia!

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dgene  62p · 2 days ago

Where will all these displaced Syrians called ‘palestineans’ be able to encamp without causing trouble ?

Bermuda ?

The Obamination can get them there.

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gravenimage  98p · 2 days ago

On Tuesday two protesters told The Jerusalem Post that Palestinian Hamas members are helping the Iranian authorities crush street protests in support of Mousavi.
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I’ve heard rumors that Hizb’allah members are involved also–not withstanding that Mousavi was *one of the founders* of that murderous organization.

Islam–where everyday is the “Night of the Long Knives”. The “peace of Islam” in action. Ugly, ugly stuff.

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dgene  62p · 2 days ago

Is there no way we can encourage the people of Iran who are now being brutalized by the bastard thugs running that theocracy ?

The failed pres hasnt the balls or the brains to stand up for the Iranian people.

This failed president is not even for our own liberty. Screw him.

How can we encourage the Iranian people ?

THE PROTESTING YOUTH IN IRAN MUST BE DEFENDED

By Felix Quigley

June 20, 2009

Robert on Jihadwatch has an excellent insight into the war against the Mullahs in Iran

[begin quote from Jihadwatch here]

This just in from a contact who is in touch with people in Iran. Usually Khamenei doesn’t lead Friday prayers or give a sermon — usually a “substitute” prayer leader does it. But today Khamenei gave his pitch, and here’s the result:

I just had call from Iran, tonight people in streets and the roof of their houses were shouting “Allah Akbar”, “Down with Khamenei”, “Down with Dictator”.

This has, of course, gone way beyond a call to allow Mousavi take office. Will it topple the Islamic Republic itself? Certainly things are spiraling way out of control as far as the mullahs are concerned. The shouts of “Allahu akbar” should not be taken to indicate that the Islamic Republic is not threatened — that’s the cultural context in which these people are operating, and doesn’t mean that there is not discontent with the very foundations of the state.

[end quote from Robert here]

Readers of this blog should now visit this thread on Jihadwatch and view in particular the comments which are infredibly reactionary and show the strange paths that they can get into. A little like Yamit82 on Israpundit getting the fols there all tied up in Holocaust denial, if it is Serbs who are holocausted.

The discussion is on

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026656.php#respond

 

The comments stand in marked contrast to the correct reference above of  Robert. I will repeat what he says

 

“The shouts of “Allahu akbar” should not be taken to indicate that the Islamic Republic is not threatened — that’s the cultural context in which these people are operating, and doesn’t mean that there is not discontent with the very foundations of the state.”

In dialectical terms it is the difference between form and content.

The content is the crisis in world capitalism which has driven the Islamofascists into a corner, where they can satisfy no single demand of the masses in the cities and universities especially, and where the Ahmadinajad base among the ruRal poor has eroded as well.

What is left then for the Mullahs? Mainly just hatred of Jews. Their attacks on America has got this as content as well, that is antisemitism.

The form is the demonstrations which are exceedingly dangerous to participate in and require the ultimate in courage on the part of the youth.

Read how these shit commentators on Jihad watch run these youth into the gutter, in their minds and language, they do not see the revolutionary content of the demonstrating youth.

If you scan through Israpundit you will see something similar by a Mr Bill Narvey. Que surprise!

Please comment below, if private mark it private.

ISLAMISTS BEHEAD STUDENT ON UNIVERSITY CAMPUS

June 20, 2009

This has been covered in Jihadwatch as well

[begin quote here]

Militants behead Afghan university student

www.chinaview.cn 2009-06-19 21:17:26

KABUL, June 19 (Xinhua) — Several armed militants entered the compound of Kandahar University in south Afghanistan Friday and after beheading a student took away another.     “The gruesome incident occurred at 11:00 a.m. local time when several unknown armed militants entered the compound while students were enjoying weekly holiday (Friday) in the garden of university and horribly beheaded Mushtaq Ahmad and took away another,” Ahmad Shah a student of the university told Xinhua.     The terrified Shah added that Mushtaq was a student of grade fourth of medical faculty of Kandahar university.     This is the first time that militants attack higher educational institutions in the country.     Police officials at the site did not put finger at any particular groups, saying the enemies of peace a term used against Taliban militants are behind such barbaric acts.     Taliban fighters who have vowed to intensify activities this year in Afghanistan have not made comment so far.

OBAMA KING OF THE JEWS AND ARABS…IN HIS DREAMS!

by Felix Quigley

June 17, 2009.

Robert on Jihadwatch posts this useful study which is pertinent to the battle being waged between netanyahu and Obama, or to look at this another way to the efforts of the Obama administration to destroy Netanyahu and to replace him with more pliable Livni.

[Begin study from Jihadwatch here]

The Two-State To Nowhere: Another Futile Attempt At Appeasement

Dr. Alex Grobman is a Hebrew University trained historian. His is the author of a number of books, including Nations United: How The UN Undermines Israel and The West and a forthcoming book on Israel’s moral and legal right to exist as a Jewish State.

“There is reason to believe that [the president] cherished the illusion that presumably he, and he alone, as head of the United States, could bring about a settlement –if not a reconciliation—between Arabs and Jews. I remember muttering to myself as I left the White House after hearing the President discourse in rambling fashion about Middle Eastern Affairs, ‘I‘ve read of men who thought they might be King of the Jews and other men who thought they might be King of the Arabs, but this is the first time I ‘ve listened to a man who dreamt of being King of both the Jews and Arabs.’”1 Herbert Feis, a State Department economic advisor, did not say this about President Obama’s address in Cairo in June 2009, but after Franklin D. Roosevelt met with Ibn Saud, King of Saudi Arabia, in February 1945. Roosevelt wanted the Arabs to allow thousands of Jews from Europe to immigrate to Palestine to which Ibn Saud responded, “Arabs would choose to die rather than yield their land to Jews.”2George Antonius, an Arab nationalist, reiterated this point when he said, “no room can be made in Palestine for a second nation except by dislodging or exterminating the nation in possession.”3

Attempts to solve the Arab/Israeli conflict regularly fail because of the refusal to acknowledge that this dispute has never been about borders, territory or settlements, but about the Arabs refusal to recognize Israel’s right to exist. “The struggle with the Zionist enemy is not a matter of borders, but touches on the very existence of the Zionist entity,” declared an Arab spokesman.4

 

Unlike the Nazis who carefully concealed the Final Solution, Hamas and the Palestine Authority openly avow their intentions in their Charter and Covenant and in the Arab media which is available in English on the Internet on MEMRI and the Palestinian Media Watch.For Hamas liberating all of Palestine to establish an Islamic state requires a holy war against Israel. Anyone daring to sign away even “a grain of sand in Palestine in favor of the enemies of God…who have seized the blessed land” should have their “hand be cut off.”5

 

Coercing Israel to make concessions and accept a two-state solution will not bring peace to the region. One-sided concessions have convinced the Arabs of the rightness of their policies and the efficacy of using violence to cleanse the country of Jews and Christians.

What compelling reason do Arabs have to stop launching rockets indiscriminately into Israeli cities, refuting the Jewish connection to the land of Israel, destroying artifacts and Jewish holy sites, denying the Holocaust, dehumanizing Jews in their media, textbooks, educational system, political discourse, religious sermons by portraying them as Satan, sons of apes and pigs, a cancer, and using children as homicide bombers, if the West does not hold them accountable?

Instead of demanding that Arabs cease their incitements and attacks, the U.S issues meaningless statements of condemnation, and then grants them foreign aid, arms and military training.

The U.S. pressures Israel to make goodwill gestures in “peace negotiations,” yet Israel has never been the aggressor. Is there any example in history where a victor withdraws from territory when the defeated party does not sue for peace, admits there will never be any reconciliation, declares they will not concede the victor’s right to exist, and labors relentlessly to destroy him? 5

When Israel opens her border check-points as an act of goodwill, the Arabs dispatch homicide bombers to maim and kill Israeli civilians. After Arab terrorists are released from Israeli prisons, they revert to murdering Jews.

Comparing the plight of the Arabs with that of African Americans is a distortion of history and demeans the experiences of the millions of Africans who were brutally abducted from their homes, transported under inhuman conditions aboard slave ships and exposed to torture, murder and rape.

Nothing remotely like this has ever occurred with the Arabs in Israel. Had the Arabs not attacked the Jews before and after Israel was established, they would not be displaced persons today.

If we are to learn from history, we must transmit what actually transpired and not allow those with their own agenda or ignorance to obscure what occurred.

Whether it is naiveté, self-delusion or hubris, a number of U.S. presidents and diplomats have assumed that their powers of persuasion could modify fiercely held beliefs about the sanctity of Arab land. Such reasoning has consistently failed.

Those claiming that Jews have a moral obligation to cede land to the Arabs do not understand Israel’s legal right to exist as a Jewish state. That right was granted by the British in the Balfour Declaration in November 1917 and later recognized under international law at the San Remo Conference on April 24, 1920 by Great Britain, France, Italy and Japan (who defeated the Ottoman Empire and divided up the empire), the Mandate for Palestine and the Franco—British Boundary Convention of December 23, 1920, as the Jewish National Home.

There are no comparable legal documents conferring the same right on the Arabs living in Palestine at that time or since. 6 Which other country would relinquish land that is legally theirs to anyone, let alone to a people engaged in internecine warfare, who cannot even live in peace among themselves?

The West has not learned that Israel represents all that is abhorred about the U.S. and Europe—a free and open democratic society, and an ethical system encouraging individual expression and independence.7 Through appeasement the U.S. and the West have enabled the Arabs to continue what Ben-Gurion called a “permanent war” against the Jewish people.

This latest drive to establish separate Arab and Jewish states will fail because as Yasser Arafat said, “We don’t want peace, we want victory. Peace for us means Israel’s destruction and nothing else. What you call peace is peace for Israel…. For us it is shame and injustice. We shall fight on to victory. Even for decades, for generations, if necessary.”8
1. Herbert Feis, The Birth of Israel: The Tousled Diplomatic Bed (New York: W.W. Norton, Inc. 1969):16-17.
2. Charles E. Bohlen, Witness to History 1929-1969 (New York: W.W. Norton, Inc. 1973):203-204.
3. George Antonius, The Arab Awakening, the Story of the Arab National
Movement (New York: Capricorn Books, 1965): 412.
4. (Kuwait News Agency, May 31, 1986), quoted in Arieh Stav, Peace: The Arabian Caricature: A Study of Anti-Semitic Imagery (New York: Gefen Publishing House, 1999):78.
5. Jacob L.Talmon, Israel Among The Nations (London: Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1970), 172.
6. Lloyd George, The Truth About The Peace Treaties vol. II, (London: Gollancz Ltd, 1938),1149-1201; Howard Grief, The Legal Foundation And Borders Of Israel Under International Law (Jerusalem: Mazo Publishers, 2008): 136-147, 493.
7. Ruth Wisse, “The UN’s Jewish Problem,” Weekly Standard (April 8, 2002).
8. Oriana Fallaci, “An Oriana Fallaci Interview: Yasir Arafat,” The New Republic (November 16, 1974), 10.

 

[end of article by Dr Alex Grodman here]

 

And the following on Jihadwatch is a great comment

This guy would be a perfect writer for the short and sweet hand-out that I was looking/calling for recently. Great mix of history, quotes, reality, and solid conclusions in a form that is easily digestible for the masses. This can do for now. It should get wide circulation through things like email chains – there are things that we all can be doing. Can this get placed as an Op-Ed? What else?

Sure, he doesn’t call out the name of the angry beast, but once his message gets read it will be absorbed in a way that a more “aggressive” stance might not… he might even have to tame it down a little bit more to get through to those who have fallen for manipulation and have built mental defenses.

He doesn’t really pull any punches though when he quotes Ben Gurion about a “permanent war against the Jews”. or,

Isn’t this pretty clear? “For Hamas liberating all of Palestine to establish an Islamic state requires a holy war against Israel.”

Sometimes you need a hammer, sometimes you need a screwdriver, sometimes I need a Gin and Tonic.

 

See it all on

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026610.php#more

THE NEXT OBAMA PLOY TO DESTROY ISRAEL CENTRES ON HAMAS

June 17, 2009

The following is from www.jihadwatch.org

Bridge for sale: Haniyeh tells Dhimmi Carter Hamas would accept Palestinian state in ’67 borders

Then there’s what he didn’t say: 1.) That Hamas would accept Israel’s continued existence on the rest of the land. 2.) That Hamas would renounce its goal of destroying Israel. Hence, this statement by Haniyeh is simply more of the same. “Haniyeh tells Carter: We’re ready for state in 1967 borders,” by Khaled Abu Toameh for the Jerusalem Post, June 16:

Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh told former US President Jimmy Carter Tuesday that his government supported any plan that aims at fulfilling the aspirations of the Palestinians, preserve their rights and lead to the establishment of a soverign Palestinian state on all the territories that were occupied by Israel in 1967.

Haniyeh, according to his aides, also expressed Hamas’s desire to end the case of kdnapped IDF soldier Gilad Schalit, welcoming Carter’s mediation efforts in this regard. Haniyeh was quoted as saying that Hamas supported acheiving [sic] a dignified solution to the Schalit case on a “human and political basis.”

Platitudes like this always depend on the expectation that people will project their own, optimistic sentiments on them and ignore the agenda behind them.

Haniyeh urged Carter to exert pressure on Israel to lift the blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip and reopen the border crossings into the area

 

COMMENT FROM A JIHADWATCH READER

In fact, Haniyeh offered nothing at all. He simply expressed his desire for territory for nothing in return. As for Shalit, he could be released tomorrow if Hamas actually wanted to. Also, I have my doubts that Shalit is even alive, since we have neither seen video or voice recording from him. To be crass, Israel should not risk its security for a skeleton.

JIHAD REACTIONARY MISSION IN BOLIVIA!

June 17, 2009

Hatred of Israel, antisemitism and anti Americanism all go together. This study by Jihadwatch we urge our readers to look at carefully

[begin Jihadwatch study of Jihad in Bolivia here]

Report: Bolivia becoming a hotbed of Islamic “extremism”

“It’s about anti-Americanism,” the report’s author says. Indeed, Bolivia’s connections with Iran mirror those of Venezuela under Hugo Chavez: Both countries’ leaders fancy themselves populist heroes bent on sticking a finger in the eye of Uncle Sam. And both have been reported to have shipped uranium to Iran. What neither seem to have taken into account, however, is that Iran has its own agenda for its activity in Latin America, and at the end of the day, infidels are infidels.

By the same token, the shared anti-Americanism has evidently given an even more diverse assortment of jihadist movements cover for their activities in Bolivia, as detailed below. “Bolivia Becoming a Hotbed of Islamic Extremism, Report Concludes,” by Nora Zimmett for Fox News, June 16 (thanks to Twostellas):

A poor, agrarian, landlocked country in South America with a nearly 100 percent Christian population is hardly the place one would expect to become a hotbed of Islamic extremism in the Western Hemisphere.

But a recent report by the Open Source Center (OSC) of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence says it’s so.

There are only 1,000 Muslims in Bolivia, a country of 9.7 million people, but the connection between some of the community’s religious leaders and Iran — as well as with fundamentalist factions in the Palestinian territories — has U.S. officials and terror experts keeping a watchful eye on them.

The report revealed a number of Muslim organizations in Bolivia whose leaders have publicly denounced U.S. foreign policy and have direct associations with extremists in the Middle East.

“There’s a theory that they may believe — Latin America, particularly with its Leftist leanings in recent years, may be more receptive to the anti-American-type rhetoric that we’ve been accustomed to hearing from Iran,” said a U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

One Muslim leader named in the OSC report is Mahmud Amer Abusharar, founder of the Centro Islamico Boliviano (CIB) in Santa Cruz. Abusharar emigrated from the Palestinian territories in 1974 and claims to have built Bolivia’s first mosque in 1994 so that he would not lose touch with his religion.

But public statements by Abusharar and other members of his mosque reveal clear anti-US sentiments. In a 2007 interview with a local Bolivian university, Abusharar told a student that he didn’t know Muslims in jail who weren’t there “especially due to the United States’ influence in Bolivian politics.” The CIB’s Web site also posts an article by its administrative director, Isa Amer Quevedo, that rebukes the U.S. for launching an attack on the Taliban after 9/11, stating: “Today we see the U.S. declaring armed Jihad against terrorism. They aim their bombs at UBL and Afghanistan, whom they financed and trained.”

The CIB is also the Bolivian headquarters for the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), a Saudi-based major fundraiser for the Muslim community. According to U.S. State Department documents, one of its regional offices in Northern Virginia was raided by the FBI in connection with terrorist activities in 2004.

Another Muslim leader in Bolivia, Husayn Salgueiro, is a staunch supporter of the Palestinian government and a known critic of Israel. While there are no public records of Salgueiro speaking out against the U.S., a local news interview earlier this year shows him urging Palestinians to continue their armed struggle against the Israeli people.

Other leaders of Islamic groups in Bolivia, according to the OCS report, have shown evidence of sympathies with Islamic radicals. Fayez Rajab Khedeer Kannan, leader of the Asociacion Cultural Boliviana Musulmana (ACBM), has openly praised Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi and asked the wealthy Islamic organization, The Libyan International Center for Studies and Research of the Green Book, to heighten its missionary efforts in Bolivia. Roberto “Yusuf” Chambi Calle, president of the Fundacion Cultural Islamica Boliviana (FCIB) is friendly with a possible associate of Moshen Rabbani, a known Iranian terrorist and the former director of a Buenos Aires mosque.

Some Latin America analysts say religious organizations like these could provide cover for more radical groups.

“Clearly, jihadists, or potential jihadists, would look very intensely at ways of diversifying their sources of revenue, potential candidates for missions — intelligence missions, infiltration — people whose profile, whose point of origin leads people to be less suspicious,” said Ray Walser, a senior policy analyst specializing in Latin America at the Heritage Foundation. “I think there is a potential in these types of organizations — that may exist in Bolivia or elsewhere — of becoming the kind of points of diversification of radical groups in the Middle East.” […]

“It’s about anti-Americanism,” Mr. Walser told FOXNews.com. “It’s about, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

Some Latin America watchers are wary of the influx of Iranian money into Bolivia and warn that economic investment could provide a convenient mask for extremist groups’ illicit activities….

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

OBAMA IS NOW IN DIRECT CONTACT THROUGH CARTER WITH HAMAS

FROM WND’S JERUSALEM BUREAU

‘Obama administration sent message

to Hamas’

Official with terror group says Carter ‘right person’ to serve as middle man

---

Posted: June 16, 2009
12:59 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

 

Jimmy Carter

JERUSALEM – Former President Jimmy Carter passed a message to Hamas from the Obama administration, according to senior sources in the Islamist group.

The sources did not disclose the content of the purported message or whether the communication was written or oral. They spoke on condition of anonymity, because they said Hamas had not yet reached a decision on officially releasing the information they were divulging.

Separately, in an interview with WND today, Ahmed Yousef, Hamas’ chief political adviser in Gaza, refused to confirm or deny that any message was passed to his group from the White House.

Youssef said, however, Carter is the “right person” to serve as a middle man between Hamas and the Obama administration.

“If we have anything to communicate, Carter will be the right person to convey messages from the movement (Hamas) to this (Obama) administration or from the administration to the movement,” said Yousef, speaking from Gaza.

Yousef told WND he spent three hours with Carter today, holding private meetings and also showing the former president areas of Gaza that were damaged during Israel’s 22-day campaign against Hamas that ended in January.

[end of quote here]

Thyis is outstanding news and goes hand in hand with the former article, that Palestinian Arab nazis are now in Iran being used against the protesting youth movement who call for the defeat of antisemite Ahmadinejad.

So now it becomes very clear what Obama is doing. In the election in Iran he did not take any position at all, that is he did not call for the defeat of Ahmadinejad, who not only calls for Israel to be wiped off the map, and there is no quarrel that he organized conferences denying the Holocaust. So like Abbas he is a Holocaust Denier.

That is why Obama is such a danger to the Jews. His natural home is with the denial of the Holocaust. Actions speak loudest.

Carter and Obama, it is fitting that Obama uses Carter as his envoy, because Carter is now the No 1 antisemite in the world. That is really where President Hussein stands.

So it is not really surprising that Obama is the friend of Hamas. When now will Robert Fisk get a special audience with Obama!!!

 

PALESTINIAN ARAB FASCISTS PUT DOWN YOUTH IN IRAN

By Felix Quigley

June 17, 2009

The following is not at all surprising to us, but if this report by Melanie Phillips is accurate then this si going to drive the Fascist Islamist loving Left into total crisis.

The analysis by Phillips can be found on http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/3702136/another-axis-of-evil.thtml

 

and refers to

“suggestions that Hezbollah forces were being brought into Iran to help put down the revolt against the regime. Today, as reports seep out of the brutality being meted out to the protesters – the anonymous post here at 6.03 pm is particularly affecting – which suggest that the casualty toll is far higher than has so far been claimed, the Jerusalem Post reports that Palestinian Hamas thugs have been imported into Iran to crush the uprising:

 

On Tuesday two protesters told The Jerusalem Post that Palestinian Hamas members are helping the Iranian authorities crush street protests in support of Mousavi… ‘The most important thing that I believe people outside of Iran should be aware of,’ the young man went on, ‘is the participation of Palestinian forces in these riots.’

Another protester, who spoke as he carried a kitchen knife in one hand and a stone in the other, also cited the presence of Hamas in Teheran. On Monday, he said, ‘my brother had his ribs beaten in by those Palestinian animals. Taking our people’s money is not enough, they are thirsty for our blood too.’

It was ironic, this man said, that the victorious Ahmadinejad ‘tells us to pray for the young Palestinians, suffering at the hands of Israel.’ His hope, he added, was that Israel would ‘come to its senses’ and ruthlessly deal with the Palestinians.  When asked if these militia fighters could have been mistaken for Lebanese Shi’ites, sent by Hizbullah, he rejected the idea. ‘Ask anyone, they will tell you the same thing. They [Palestinian extremists] are out beating Iranians in the streets… The more we gave this arrogant race, the more they want… [But] we will not let them push us around in our own country.’

It would indeed be ironic if, while Obama is putting the thumbscrews on Israel to facilitate a Palestinian state as a precondition for America getting tough with Iran, the Palestinians are being used to keep the Iranian regime in power.

Hamas is, of course, an arm of the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood. The Iranians are Shi’ites, the supposed deadly foes of the Sunni. Hamas is, however, known to receive funding, arms and terrorist training from Iran, an alliance which has been dismissed as implausible by those who appear never to have heard of the Molotov /Ribbentrop pact. But then, the refusal to grasp that the real agenda behind the violence in the Middle East is the brutal imposition of Islamic theocracy, first upon the region and then upon the world, is the tragic delusion of the west — which extends now all the way into the Oval Office.

 

TRAITORS TO THE JEWISH CAUSE…THE CCAR

by Felix Quigley

17 June, 2009

The issue of the defence of Israel has become the issue of clear leadership. It is clear to us on 4international that a new leadership must be built which will lead the Jewish people.

With that in mind it is important to be aware of the following, just reported in Jerusalem Post

[Begin quote from Jerusalem Post here]

The Obama administration’s call to freeze settlement activity in the “occupied territories” is in the best interests of the US and Israel, a group of American Reform rabbis said Sunday.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1244371097534

This is from the Central Conference of American Rabbis (CCAR)

Who are they anyway?

They have a site called ccar.net, and I looked up under “resolutions”. I found this in answer to “settlements?”

[start quote from CCAR query on resolutions under “settlements”]

The following Resolutions contain “settlements”

2008 United Methodist Church General Conference (2008F)
Building Of A Defensive Barrier Between Israel And Palestinian Communities (2004J)
Concerning Ongoing Attacks From Gaza, Terrorism In Jerusaelm And Israel’s Quest For Peace (2008)
Gaza and the West Bank (2006)
Israel (1980)
Israel & the Peace Process (1995)
Israel & the Quest for Peace in the Post-Gulf War Period (1991)
Israel (1889–1972)
Loan Guarantees (1992)
Peace in Israel, Resolution on (2001)
Peace and Security (1995)
Support of State, Provincial and Local Advocacy, Resolution in (2005)
Where We Stand On Israel (2003M1)
Where We Stand On Israel (2002D)

You can follow this up in your own time. To me these seem total and complete traitors to the Jewish cause, and I say this as a non Jew.

I would say that these rabbis are the No 1 enemy that has to be fought. The Jews and Israel simply cannot win unless there is a serious struggle right out in the open in front of all the people of Israel about these Rabbi traitors. One of these is a rabbi called Dreyfus

[Quote from Jerusalem Post concerning Dreyfus]

In response to a Post question, Dreyfus denied that the CCAR was “dictating” policy to Israel.

“We are just a loving family living abroad, stating our opinion. One can give advice to family without it being considered dictating,” she said.

PALESTINIAN ARABS TURN DOWN NETANYAHU´S OFFER OF A STATE

by Felix Quigley

Netanyahu offered a state to the Jihadist Palestinian Arabs and all they had to do is recognize Israel. They now say that to recognise Israel is unacceptable.

Mubarak has also said thios, speaking on behalf of all Arabs.

Could anything be clearer!

Israel must now do 2 things:

1. Take over Judea, Samaria, Gaza completely

2. Make these Arabs either accept Israel as a Jewish state and necessary defence against Jihadist antisemitism

Or be expelled from Israel

And at the same time make an appeal to the youth of Teheran to help Israel to fight Sharia, Jihadism and antisemitism

 

Israel is now at war on many fronts and it must ensure that those nominally Jews who are traitors be expelled from Israel.

For example Haaretz should be taken over by Jewish patriots and people like Haas should be expelled perhaps to Saudi Arabia.

 

Let Haas place her neck on the line there.

THE STEALTH JIHAD AGAINST SERBS AND JEWS

by Felix Quigley

June 13, 2009

The situation in the world today is characterised by these things

1. There is an alliance between the US and Islam, or more precisely between the US Governments and Islam

2. Islam is an extremely reactionary political ideology which played a central role in the Holocaust of the Jews

3. Islam is also extremely anti Communist and this may be a big attraction for the American ruling class

4. Yet it is not only the American elite which is in alliance with Islam. So is the so called Left of today. Even sections of the Jewish people and leaders who are at most danger

5. And the other aspect of the Islamist Jihad aided and promoted by the US, the EU, NATO and the UN is the Jihad against the Christians and socialists of Serbia, formerly Yugoslavia

 

Of course the roots of this is the economic crisis in capitalism, which is an historical crisis. The capitalist system did have a beginning and a development. It is historical materialism which distinguishes our website. We do examine history and aspects of history to find the connections tot he present. Many do not.

It folows that there is needed a special party which can lead in the coming struggles between classes, and in struggles for national survival, as is the case with the Jews of Israel and the Serbs of Serbia.

These isues are objective. Events are forced upon these peoples. They cannot avoid them. It matters not whether they are good and nice people or not, if they wish to survive as a people then they have to confront these realities of life.

The issues facing the Jews are in the latest phase centred on the end result of OSLO. The Jewish leaders under Peres and Rabin signed up for OSLO, talked peace, but got war from Arafat. The Intifada left thousands of Jews dead and injured. Then the Jews pulled totally out of Gaza, a benefactor donated the Greenhouse industry tot he Arabs hoping they would build on this and live at peace. The Jews received on their civilians unending rockets, the thinking behind these rockets was anything but peace loving.

The Gaza war proved a major and qualitative point. Here, world wide, the Islamist supporting Left tipped over into direct antisemitism

Obama is clearly an Islamist, a Palestinian supporting Islamist.

There is this constituency in the US and they are not all Muslims. There is a large section of the Jewish people in America who are also Islamist and Nazi supporters, who are supporting the ethnic cleansing of Judea.

So what is needed.

It is totally wrong to separate the struggles of the Jews for a Homeland against the Jihad, from the Jihad everywhere else. It is wrong morally and it is wrong also from a scientific as well as strategic and tactical point of view.

This began with former US presidents and goes back a very long way. The alliance with Islam is deep and not accidental.

But the Obama team is particularly hostile to Jews and to Israel, is particularly sympathetic tot he Islamist Jihad, especially to the Islamist stealth Jihad.

So they build up a huge head of steam talking abou tthe oppression of the Palestinians

Behind this comes the Jihad

Abd this must be united with the Jihad against the Serbs.

Ya’alon belittles Obama’s policy on Iran

by Hilary Leila Kieger, Washington Correspondent, Jerusalem Post, June 10, 2009

 

Vice Premier Moshe Ya’alon

 

Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Ya’alon (Likud) delivered a blistering attack on the Obama administration’s Middle East policies Tuesday, suggesting that its approach toward Iran and the Palestinian Authority were flawed.

“Just like the new administration, we too believe that friends should be candid with each other,” he said during an address at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “It is our duty to explain to our American friends our concerns.”

He was referring to comments that US President Barack Obama and other officials have made recently about the need to be clear with Israel that certain policies, such as settlement expansion, aren’t acceptable.

The American declarations have fed tensions between the US and Israel, and Ya’alon’s hardline speech suggested that the gulf between the countries won’t be bridged any time soon.

 

This is very important and offers hope to Jewish patriots.

 

Our comment follows

The Americans seem to be very good at stirring up a Media frenzy and then on that basis pressuring an “agreement”. It seems obvious that Netanyahu and Lieberman have understood this and anticipated this.

In Fact. The US under Obama and Clinton are repeating, or trying to repeat, precisely what Bill Clinton did in relation to Milosevic. There are some differences. The Serbs were far more isolated and the Russians at that stage were collaborating totally with the US. It was the Russians really who sold out Milosevic and set him up literally to be murdered in his cell.

Somehow the US under Obama have got to do the same as they did to Milosevic. This could indeed be done. It is clear that this has been started.

But in the US the whole of the US Establishment was united in smashing up Yugoslavia, this will not be the case in relation to the Jews and Israel. This cannot be the case in relation to Israel.

This is why Mitchel, Obama and Hilary Clinton are literally mad to get an agreement in place. They want an agreement based on the emotion of the “poor” Palestinians. Netanyahu will not play along with this mad rush. It is essential that all organizations are quite explicit in support and defence of Netanyahu.

(end our comment here)

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is set to deliver a major policy speech next week, which some observers have predicted he will present a softening of positions as the two countries move from taking each other’s measure to working on shared interests.

But Ya’alon’s address, which some are reading as a preview of Netanyahu’s delivery, contrasted sharply with the views of the White House.

At the same time, Ya’alon is a strong right-wing voice in the Likud, so his speech could also be read as a message to Netanyahu to hold the line.

Though the minister for strategic affairs and former IDF chief of staff couched his comments as taking on the “conventional wisdom” of the mainstream media, he belittled the notion that dialogue would dampen Iranian nuclear ambitions or that it made sense to aggressively pursue the creation of a Palestinian state.

He argued that policy toward the Palestinians should instead focus on a “bottom up” approach of economic, political, security and education reform to lay the groundwork for a functioning Palestinian entity.

I do not know if Netanyahu knows or not, but we know, that is a lot of baloney.

The centre of the Palestinian being is Jihad, the destruction of Israel. This here ideology is going to have no Palestinian state living in peace with Israel. That is for suckers.

 

 

That could well take 40 years. Or it could as I think be a bum steer in the first place.

 

Anybody who has studied this will see that “Palestinian nationalism” arose as a wish to stop the Jews having a Homeland.

 

It has been a creature of anti-Semitism from word go! The actual history shows this clearly and that is why a knowledge of history (provided we do not all descend into capitalist barbarism) will be decisive in the end.. Talking about decisive in order to do anything you need a party.

 

It is not a party organization because such a party cannot be plucked out of the air. But immediately there must be created a United Front organization which will be based on the opposition to a Palestine State and with all the anti-Semitism, including the ethnic cleansing of Judea, that such a palestien state entails. The bluff of Obama, Mitchel and Clinton has to be called on this one.

IS THE NETANYAHU TAKE ON OBAMA CORRECT?

by Felix Quiigley

June 13, 2009

I believe it is although for different reasons than many say.

As I understand it the position of Netanyahu is essentially a delaying action.

There is no doubt that Obama, Mitchel and Clinton have powerful forces and resources at their disposal. They have the power of the Media which can be all powerful as happened in Yugoslavia and the campaign against the Serbs.

They also have a very serious new ally which is the American Jews who in fact are largely traitors to Israel. And there are also plenty scattered around the world.

(The sigue of traitors among Jews is really one of leadership. Alter 2000 years of slavery and persecution it is inevitable that what emerges is full of Duch slavish complexes)

The point to remember is that Obama is really a left Islamist. Obama was educated as a Muslim, then changed horses when he joined Wrights infamous Church. But Wright himself as really a palestinian pro Islamist so it was more of the same, really.

America as a nation however is not Islamist as say is Britain and Europe. America is a very centred place with enough raw material and resources to make it independent if it wanted to be.

Of course this must be placed against the reality of the world market that capitalism has created, but Russia and America are the two countries which should not be easily swayed by Islam and oil money.

The crisis in the world capitalist system is going to bring large battalions of workers in America into conflict with Obama. Place that alongside the hatred for Obama which will intensify among Christians. As they understand what Obama is doing to Israel.

When these people see through the subterfuge.

This is why Obama and Mitchel on the one hand strip Judea of every last Jew but talk endlessly about how this is good for Israeli security. I mean how long precisely can they continue to sell this particular crock of shit to the American people.

Perhaps Netanyahu does it instinctively. But whatever, his tactic, and the tactic of Lieberman of delaying Obama in his mad rush to create a Palestine state on Judea, which involves ethnic cleansing of Judea of Jews!!! … this may be just the ticket.

 

Because it allows time for tremendous forces to build up in side America against Obama

Everything will be decided by leadership. More on this issue of leadership another time.

MAJOR MOVEMENT OF THE YOUTH IN IRAN

By Felix Quigley

June 13, 2009

Great hatred exists among the youth and the general working class in Iran for the Islamofascist and anti-Semitic monsters who run the country, having hijacked the Iranian Revolution against the Shah and against the US and British role in supporting the Shah.

 

However there is no way out for these rebellious youth in this election. This is because the main opponent to the anti-Semitic Ahmadinejad is really more of the same on the most fundamental matters.

 

His name is Mousavi and he was accurately described in a Times article as

 

“Mr Mousavi’s campaign has skilfully employed the internet and text messaging to circumvent the statecontrolled media, but it is almost certainly financed by Hojatoleslam Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, a former President regarded by many as the embodiment of the corrupt Establishment.

 

The thing that is most striking about this election is the extreme courage of the youth in Iran.

1. These youith are in great danger all of the time. Homosexuals are in particular peril. Women are totally oppressed by the system Yet nothing ever seems to stop them taking to the streets year alter year. The election is just the excuse for the youth to once more take on the system. Of course Mousavi has his cheer leaders for the camera but I doubt that the majority of youth have any real interest in Mousavi. The youth are very internet literate in Iran.
2. Counterposed to this courage of the youth in Iran is the antisemitism of the Left in the West. On sites Duch as Indymedia these old leftie reactionaries are lining up with the Mullahs of Iran because a. the Mullahs are antisemitic and b. the left itself is antisemitic

 

If the election is not totally rigged I expect the majority of youth and workers in the metropolitan areas of Iran to vote for Mousavi and Ahmadinejad to be defeated there.

That in itself will not be decisive because state power remains in the hands of the Iranian corrupt and antisemitic Islamist bourgeoisie.

But if Israel attacks the Mullah´s bomb and also appeals to these youth what way will they then go?

There is a parallel to this election. In the election in Lebanon the principled leaders of Christian and Druze managed to defeat the Iranian backed Hizbullah. There IS time and opportunity but everything depends on leadership.

ANSWER OBAMA LIES…THE PALESTINIANS WERE CENTRAL IN THE HOLOCAUST OF THE JEWS

By Felix Quigley

June 13, 2009

The father of Barack Obama was a Muslim. Obama then was educated and reared as a Muslim. He became a Christian when he was an adult under the influence of the anti American Black preacher called Pastor Wright

 

The speech which Obama gave to the Arabs and Muslims in Cairo last week was the speech of a Muslim and indeed of an Islamist. It is certain proof that there is now an Islamist (Islamofascist) in the Presidency of the United States, the most powerful nation on earth.

 

Consider this about the speech

 

1. On 3 occasions during the speech Obama referred to the rights of Muslim women to cover their bodies. At no time during the speech did Obama refer to the rights of Muslim, or indeed any, women to not cover the bodies. Women who do not follow Muslim dress code rules are spat upon and much worse in Islamist countries. Obama was thus defending this Islamist repressive tyranny aimed in this case crucially against women.
2. Obama made a reference to the speech to the Holocaust being a product of Europe. This is false and is in fact a big part of the Arab Big Lie about the Holocaust. The Arabs and Islam had a major hand in the Nazi Holocaust of the Jews, a fact which is personified in the Arab leader Hajj Amin el Husseini who worked in close with Hitler, Himmler and Eichmann in the carrying out of all phases of the Holocaust.
3. The Palestine Arab movement (The Palestinians) has descended from this Arab Nazi presence in the Holocaust. The PLO and now the PA and Hamas are the direct descendents of Arab Nazis which according to the research carried out by Mallman and Cuppers fully intended to wipe out all Jews in Palestine
4. It was precisely these very Palestinians who Obama placed on a par with the 6 millions of Jews who perished in the Holocaust. This is a development of the Big Lie technique which is quite breath taking in its scope and implications.

 

So what do we learn? Obama was largely a creation of the US and European Media machine which was the same Media which laid the basis for the destruction of Yugoslavia in the past and immediate decades.

 

Obama also was a creation of the Islamist leaning “Left”, the Israel haters of Counterpunch and of the British SWP, also of the likes of Gene and David taube of Harry’s Place, again the pro Nato and anti Serb tie in

 

And Obama was the creation of a majority of American Jews who have been schooled into a particular form of Jew and Israel hatred.

 

But there is one other aspect to this. In the 1930s the German Nazis of Hitler made a conscious decision to ally themselves with Islam

 

Much research by people like Jared Israel has proven beyond any doubt that US and EU Governments have been carrying out an Islamist agenda for many decades. They have also spent enormously in resources and time in order to create a pro Islam Media

 

The latest effect of this was seen last week when the BBC reported hour after hour on its world service that Englishman was murdered in Mali. But he was not just murdered. He was beheaded. It was necessary to turn to Jihad watch in order to ascertain this fact. If the reader wants to google this beheading you will not find the BBC reporting this and using the word “beheading”.

 

When English Media people are blasé about the beheading of a fellow Englishman then we know that the English are no longer a nation, or deserve to call themselves a nation.

 

 

See re Obama speech

 

Obama’s stunning offence to Israel and its people

By Anne Bayevsky

 

June 9, 2009

 

 

 

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0609/bayefsky060909.php3

WHAT THE ISLAMIST SUPPORTING LEFT IS BEHIND!

British tourist beheaded

 by Muslims in Mali

 

 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl…

 

A HARROWING account of the final hours of the kidnapped British tourist Edwin Dyer before he was murdered by Islamic militants in the Sahara desert last week has been given by an Arab intermediary who was negotiating for his release.

According to the negotiator, the fate of Dyer, 60, an opera-loving sales manager who came from Reading, Berkshire, but lived in Austria, was sealed two days before the killing when his captors separated him at gunpoint from Werner Greiner, 57, a Swiss lawyer they were also holding hostage.

The men’s ordeal had begun in January when they were captured with other tourists from Germany and Switzerland after setting out for a nomadic cultural festival near the lawless border between Niger and Mali.

They are believed to have been sold on to a hardline Islamist group in Mali under Abel Hamid Abu Zeid, 43, an Algerian militant listed by western governments and the United Nations as an Al-Qaeda member….

“They separated Dyer in front of us. I could tell it was a bad sign,” the intermediary said. “Negotiations were deadlocked. Britain was categorical that it would not give in to their demand to release Abu Qatada, the radical cleric who is imprisoned in Britain, in return for Dyer and, above all, it rejected paying ransom money for him.”

The negotiator said that Zeid, the leader of the Islamist group, was particularly hostile towards Britain. “Who are these British?” he asked. “Just western unbelievers. Islam tells us not to have any links with unbelievers. That is why this man [Dyer] will be executed in the name of God.”…

“They will see that we are jihadists, envoys of God, and their deaths will be the fault of their governments and their policies,” he said.

Dyer was then reunited briefly with Greiner. “Dyer was wearing a turban. He was very afraid and was sobbing. The Swiss man lowered his head,” he said.

“Dyer knew what awaited him. He said something I did not understand and wept. His hands were bound.

“Zeid told me to leave. As I turned away I heard two gunshots. I do not know whether these shots killed Dyer and they beheaded his corpse afterwards.”

Other sources said Dyer had been beheaded in what Gordon Brown, the British prime minister, called an “appalling and barbaric act of terrorism”. In a statement announcing Dyer’s death, Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (a region of north Africa) quoted a verse from the Koran: “When ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks.”…

That’s Qur’an 47:4.