GALLOWAY SAYS THE “ACTUAL ENEMY IS ISRAEL” BUT THAT IS NOT BEING ANTISEMITIC OF COURSE!

Monday, September 13, 2010

Galloway begs Mubarak to let his latest Gaza convoy through

George Galloway has been preparing a new convoy to Gaza, but he has one major problem: the fact that Egypt has banned him for the trouble he caused last time.Galloway was deported from Egypt last January after his “Viva Palestina” convoy members started a protest that ended up killing an Egyptian policeman. Later, Egypt banned all of these publicity-seeking convoys from entering Egypt while allowing real aid through. According to Arabic media, Galloway is begging Hosni Mubarak to allow him to return with the convoy he is organizing in Algeria, saying that he is not associated with Hamas but does respect the Palestinian Arabs’ choice of Hamas as their leaders. So far, Egyptian officials have not acknowledged his asking for permission to cross the country with a stream of reporters. Galloway said that “we have no problems with Egypt, because the actual enemy is Israel.” http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2010/09/galloway-begs-mubarak-to-let-his-latest.html

THE STUXNET WORM AND AHMADINEJAD…NOT SO COCKY NOW EH!

It is only a short few days ago that this Fascist pygmy Ahmadinejad was swanning about new York, a breakfast meeting with the big wheels of New York journalism this minute, flashing the Bible and the Koran on the UN Dais another minute.

But we know it was all bluff because the wonderful Jewish state has once more rode to the salvation of an undeserving world and stopped these Fascists in their evil tracks.

It is all about the “Worm”, the piece of software that (I am sure) Israel has managed to place on its computer machines.

The Iranian Fascists are dismayed and they simply do not have ANY idea what to do.

Every time their dumbass technical people go to attack the worm it turns on them and wreaks far more havoc. So they are being forced to back off. I wonder do these bastards pray!

They have been trying to seek the services of technicians abroad. of course people will do ANYTHING for money. But there is a snag. What if the expert from abroad needs to see the machines (centrifuges) which are supposed to be spinning around making that Bomb to kill all the Jews, in order to fix the thing. But how can the Mullahs do that? it would blow their cover story would it not!

This is a great big rebuff not only to the Iranian Fascist but to all those “Left” fascists in the British, Spanish and Irish Leftist movement who are supporting these Islamofascists, also those Jewish antisemitic fools who are sailing a ship at the moment to Gaza to support Hamas.

Some of these fools obviously misunderstand the basic Jewish philosophy which is many hundreds of years, actually thousands, old.

If your enemy is coming down the street to kill you then there is one answer and only one answer…kill him first.

That is what the great Israeli state has done by creating the “Worm” which as we speak is biting its way into that pest infested (return of the Mahdi!) brain of this pygmy Ahmadinejad.

You can be sure: Only one thing on their mind at the moment and that is the “Worm”

(DEBKAfile has the latest details)

Tehran this week secretly appealed to a number of computer security experts in West and East Europe with offers of handsome fees for consultations on ways to exorcize the Stuxnet worm spreading havoc through the computer networks and administrative software of its most important industrial complexes and military command centers. debkafile’s intelligence and Iranian sources report Iran turned for outside help after local computer experts failed to remove the destructive virus.
None of the foreign experts has so far come forward because Tehran refuses to provide precise information on the sensitive centers and systems under attack and give the visiting specialists the locations where they would need to work. They were not told whether they would be called on to work outside Tehran or given access to affected sites to study how they function and how the malworm managed to disable them. Iran also refuses to give out data on the changes its engineers have made to imported SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) systems, mostly from Germany.
The impression debkafile sources gained Wednesday, Sept. 29 from talking to European computer experts approached for aid was that the Iranians are getting desperate. Not only have their own attempts to defeat the invading worm failed, but they made matters worse: The malworm became more aggressive and returned to the attack on parts of the systems damaged in the initial attack.

One expert said: “The Iranians have been forced to realize that they would be better off not ‘irritating’ the invader because it hits back with a bigger punch.”

Looking beyond Iran’s predicament, he wondered whether the people responsible for planting Stuxnet in Iran – and apparently continuing to offload information from its sensitive systems – have the technology for stopping its rampage. “My impression,” he said, “is that somebody outside Iran has partial control at least on its spread. Can this body stop malworm in its tracks or kill it? We don’t have that information at present, he said. 

IT HAS SUDDENLY DAWNED ON THE FASCISTS…!

As it is, the Iranian officials who turned outside for help were described by another of the experts they approached as alarmed and frustrated. It has dawned on them that the trouble cannot be waved away overnight but is around for the long haul. Finding a credible specialist with the magic code for ridding them of the cyber enemy could take several months. After their own attempts to defeat Stuxnet backfired, all the Iranians can do now is to sit back and hope for the best, helpless to predict the worm’s next target and which other of their strategic industries will go down or be robbed of its secrets next.

While Tehran has given out several conflicting figures on the systems and networks struck by the malworm – 30,000 to 45,000 industrial units – debkafile’s sources cite security experts as putting the figure much higher, in the region of millions. If this is true, then this cyber weapon attack on Iran would be the greatest ever. 

http://www.debka.com/article/9050/

THE INVINCIBLE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE CRIPPLING THE COMPUTERS OF THE IRANIAN FASCISTS

This is a fight for the survival of the Jewish people.

The one thing that makes the situation for Jews different to the 1930s is that today the Jewish people own a Homeland and that enables the genius of this people to operate.

It is really sad that this genius has to be spent in defence against a fascist enemy. It would be nice if it could be spent in developing computer systems which aid humanity. But make no mistake, the development of this worm, now being talked about in every radio and newspaper in the world, is defending the human race as never before.

The number one aim of all progressive people and certainly in opposition to antisemitism is to destroy the Fascist rulers of iran.

If they are seen as being powerless in the face of Jewish ingenuity then that is good, because that will give heart to the long suffering Iranian ordinary people, who are also under the jackboot of Ahmadinejad.

Ahmadinejad can strut around the United Nations in New York because the United Nations is filled with Islamic antisemites.

But we will see. Ahmadinejad represents a section of world capitalism which is particularly imbecile, being based on nothing more than having some good fortune to have had oil under its covers.

But you cannot run a Nuclear programme with access to computer technology, and here the Jewish people of Israeli are highly intelligent and advanced, Ahmadinejad and his fascist Brotherhood are dunces.

The recent DEBKAfile article gives the latest with all of its implications.

We can expect the cornered rats of the Ahmadinejad regime and its cohorts in Fatah, Hamas, Hizbullah and Syria to strike back if they can:

[Begin analysis by DEBKAfile here]

Cyber attack on Iran expands: Tehran threatens long-term war in reprisal
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report September 27, 2010, 6:13 PM (GMT+02:00)

Iran admitted Monday, Sept. 27 it was under full-scale cyber terror attack. The official IRNA news agency quoted Hamid Alipour, deputy head of Iran’s government Information Technology Company, as saying that the Stuxnet computer worm “is mutating and wreaking further havoc on computerized industrial equipment.”

Stuxnet was no normal worm, he said: “The attack is still ongoing and new versions of this virus are spreading.”

Revolutionary Guards deputy commander Hossein Salami declared his force had all the defensive structures for fighting a long-term war against “the biggest and most powerful enemies” and was ready to defend the revolution with more advanced weapons than the past.  He stressed that defense systems have been designed for all points of the country, and a special plan devised for the Bushehr nuclear power plant. debkafile’s military sources report that this indicates that the plant – and probably other nuclear facilities too – had been infected, although Iranian officials have insisted it has not, only the personal computers of its staff.

The Stuxnet spy worm has been created in line with the West’s electronic warfare against Iran,” said Mahmoud Liayi, secretary of the information technology council of the Industries Minister.

As for the origin of the Stuxnet attack, Hamid Alipour said: The hackers who enjoy “huge investments” from a series of foreign countries or organizations, designed the worm, which has affected at least 30,000 Iranian addresses, to exploit five different security vulnerabilities. This confirmed the impressions of Western experts that Stuxnet invaded Iran’s Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition systems through “zero-day” access.

Alipour added the malware, the first known worm to target large-scale systems and industrial complexes control systems, is also a serious threat to personal computers.

debkafile’s Iranian and intelligence sources report that these statements are preparing the ground for Tehran to go beyond condemning the states or intelligence bodies alleged to have sponsored the cyber attack on Iranian infrastructure and military industries and retaliate against them militarily. Iran is acting in the role of victim of unprovoked, full-scale, cyber terror aggression.

http://www.debka.com/

THE JEWISH PEOPLE MUST STEP UP ALL SETTLEMENTS IN JUDEA AND SAMARIA

 

In opposition to Aluf Benn, it was a grave error for Netanyahu to even begin talking with Abbas.

After all Abbas was the Israeli politician who sat at the side of Arafat, who masterminded the Munich Olympic Massacre, and who gained his doctorate in an essay denying the Holocaust.

The way forward for Israel is to have leaders in charge of a Government, perhaps a government of national emergence,as Israel faces the threat of Nuclear attack from Iran, leaders who will at all times tell the truth to the great and long oppressed Israeli people.

This is what Netanyahu does not do.

His choosing of Ehud Barak to be Minister of Defence is a real sign that Netanyahu cannot possibly fight the Arabs, the Fascists in Iran, and this branch of American leadership around Obama, but Bush was just as bad.

You cannot possibly put up a fight with a leader like Barak alongside of you.

With Barak by your side you are immediately engaging in compromise with your bitterest enemies.

All we get with Netanyahu and Barak is a feint this way, a feint that way. Like an egotistical soccer player who goes on a solo run down the wing. Nobody knows what he is doing, where he is going, and he ends up at the corner flag. The whole country is nothing more than puzzled because they are not involved, cannot be involved because Netanyahu does not tell the truth to his people. Basically he does not tell what is going on.

This is a people who have been oppressed for 2000 years plus, have been attacked in the most vicious manner such as the expulsion from Spain by the Spanish in 1492.

And the Holocaust left a deep scar on this people.

They surely deserve better than what Bibi Netanyahu is doing in leadership.

He really must be removed and be given a job as spokesman on US television channels explaining the policy of (other) leaders. He is still potentially a patriot and could do that, but watched over closely.

Now as regards what the Media call the “Settlements”.

These “settlements” are in JUDEA…got that, JUDEA, so the first task of our propaganda is to explain that this land is JUDEA and not the West Bank

The area of Judea and Samaria, which only since 1967 has been called the West Bank, is really the land of Israel. This is a fact which is dictated by both history and by international treaty.

It is also an area which is vital to the strategic security interests of Israel.

Finally it is an area which must not fall into the hands of the enemies of Israel. That is what the Arabs in Yesha are, and this does not matter which Arab party they affiliate to, whether it is Hamas, or Fatah, which is also known as the Palestinian Authority, the PLO, the “Palestinians” etc. The names mean little. The hatred of Jews means everything.

Netanyahu has proved to be unable to stand up like a Jewish patriot to America and assert these truths.

Barak acts as if he is an agent of America dressed up as a Jew.

So the patriotic forces in Israel must push this issue of saying NO to a ban on Jewish building and Jewish living in their own land of JUDEA and Samaria

On this website we will be presenting the evidence, often using maps, that this area is Jewish, the original area planned for the Jewish Homeland.

Original territory assigned to the Jewish National Home

The area of Judea and Samaria, which only since 1967 has been called the West Bank, is really the land of Israel. This is a fact which is dictated by both history and by international treaty.

It is also an area which is vital to the strategic security interests of Israel.

Finally it is an area which must not fall into the hands of the enemies of Israel. That is what the Arabs in Yesha are, and this does not matter which Arab party they affiliate to, whether it is Hamas, or Fatah, which is also known as the Palestinian Authority, the PLO, the “Palestinians” etc. The names mean little. The hatred of Jews means everything.

Netanyahu has proved to be unable to stand up like a Jewish patriot to America and assert these truths.

Barak acts as if he is an agent of America dressed up as a Jew.

So the patriotic forces in Israel must push this issue of saying NO to a ban on Jewish building and Jewish living in their own land of JUDEA and Samaria

The above map shows the original area planned for the Jewish Homeland. This and future maps and studies will show that the Jewish people are the most abused people in the world.

BY TALKING WITH ABBAS NETANYAHU HAS LED ISRAEL INTO A DEADLY TRAP

The talks between Netanyahu and Abbas was a totally daft idea. While Netanyahu has been talking to Abbas, who is supposed to be for peace with Israel, Abbas has been preparing for war, and is meeting with Hamas and Hizbullah behind the backs of the Israelis

This places the Netanyahu Government in a totally indefensible position and makes all of the talk about peace into nothing more than a trap.

While Israel has been talking to Abbas of the PA, Abbas has been planning to bring in Hamas into the talks.

This is also what the whole of the EU under Ashton is after, also Blair, above all the Obama Government.

They know that the real power among these Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians” is Hamas, Hizbullah, Syria and of course Iran. Abbas of course is part of the same antisemitism and total hatred for Israel.

We have always said that Obama was not all that different to the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and so it will prove as they prepare to bring Hamas in.

It appears that one of the people on the Hamas delegation was the very terrorist who was behind the recent murder of the 4 Jewish people in Judea.

Debkafile report follows

Deep in the gloom behind frantic US efforts to rescue the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks from collapsing when Israel’s 10-month construction freeze runs out Sunday, Sept. 26, debkafile’s counter-terror sources report a new stumbling block has appeared on the diplomatic track.

In New York, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pressed Abbas Friday, Sept. 24, not to walk out of the talks with Israel after only two sessions. Israel’s Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who delayed his return home, and negotiator Yitzhak Molcho met with US and Palestinian officials to join the effort. They all appeared to be struggling for a compromise on the settlement construction issue that would keep Abbas talking, without compromising the government’s position at home.

In fact, they found themselves grappling with a new impediment: This week, Abbas sent a high-ranking delegation of his own Fatah party to Damascus for secret talks with top Hamas leaders, thereby swinging the critical focus of the Israel-Palestinian peace talks to a new internal Palestinian track led by the radical Hamas and Syria, the foremost opponents of the US-sponsored peace talks with Israel. Abbas was apparently supported in this shift by Egypt.
The Fatah delegation consisted of Azzam al Ahmad, Gen. Nasser Yusuf and Sahar Basiso, head of Fatah General Intelligence, sat down with Hamas’ leader Khaled Meshaal, head of its politburo Mussa Abu Marzouk and Izzat Rishak, intelligence chief.
The delegation’s composition was an added complication and hindrance to diplomatic progress.

Rishak personally orchestrated the first attacks on the West Bank on Aug. 30 and Sept. 1, in which four Israelis were murdered and two injured. debkafile’s counter-terror sources report that these were the opening shots of a major Hamas terror campaign, designed to peak with the most devastating terrorist strike yet, which Rishak is in charge of planning. He is using the same perpetrators.  They are still at large because Hamas imported unknown terrorist talent from Syria whose faces are unknown to the Shin Bet. However, a furious hunt is on to catch them in time.

Israeli defense sources reacted angrily to the news of the Fatah-Hamas get-together. While slapping down an ultimatum for partnering Israel in peace talks, Mahmoud Abbas, they said, was furtively engaged in give-and-take in the Syrian capital with Hamas terrorists who he knows to be the warpath.
Clinton’s diplomatic skills have suddenly been doubly taxed: She must contrive an acceptable formula for the settlement construction imbroglio and so keep the direct Palestinian-Israeli talks running, while at the same time squashing the new Palestinian-Hamas-Syrian track surreptitiously initiated by Mahmoud Abbas. A possible alternative might be one which the Obama administration has begun exploring of late, according to debkafile’s Washington sources, and that is to cut Syrian and Hamas negotiators into the direct Israel-Palestinian track.

This means that the direct Israel-Palestinian direct talks, which Barack Obama called the crux of his Middle East policy during his speech to the UN last Thursday, have been virtually hijacked. Washington is struggling to maintain a grip on a process which Abbas has handed over to Damascus and Hamas.
Hillary Clinton when she meets Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Mouallem Monday, Sept. 27, is likely to test the possibility of an agreement on this issue.
Hence, in New York, Assistant US Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Jeff Feltman told reporters that his government would like to see Israel and Syria settle their differences as part of a comprehensive peace, which “has to include a Syria-Israel track.”

http://www.debka.com/article/9044/

TIME TO TOPPLE NETANYAHU…USE ALL METHODS TO DESTROY THE PA AND THE IRAN MULLAHS

DEBKAfile has referred to the position of the US towards Iran.

It writes today:

Obama has resolved to deal with the nuclear impasse with Iran by going after the Islamic republic on two tracks: UN and unilateral sanctions for biting deep into the financial resources Iran has earmarked for its nuclear program, and a secret cyber war which the US is conducting jointly with Israel for crippling its nuclear facilities.

It adds to this:

debkafile’s sources disclose that Israel has had special elite units carrying out such assignments for some time. Three years ago, for instance, cyber raiders played a role in the destruction of the plutonium reactor North Korea was building at A-Zur in northern Syria.
On Monday, too, the Christian Science Monitor and several American technical journals carried revelations about a new virus called Stuxnet capable of attacking and severely damaging the servers of large projects, such as power stations and nuclear reactors.

All the leaked reports agreed on three points:

1.  Stuxnet is the most advanced and dangerous piece of Malware every devised.
2.  The experts don’t believe any private or individual hackers are capable of producing this virus, only a high-tech state such as America or Israel.
3.  Although Stuxnet was identified four months ago, the only servers known to have been affected and seriously damaged are located in Iran.
Some computer security specialists report lively speculation that the virus was invented specifically to target part of the Iranian nuclear infrastructure, either the Bushehr nuclear plant activated last month or the centrifuge facility in Natanz.
debkafile’s sources add: Since August, American and UN nuclear watchdog sources have been reporting a slowdown in Iran’s enrichment processing due to technical problems which have knocked out a large number of centrifuges and which its nuclear technicians have been unable to repair. It is estimated that at Natanz alone, 3,000 centrifuges have been idled.
None of the reports indicate whether other parts of Iran’s nuclear program have been affected by Stuxnet or the scale of the damage it may have caused. 

The world is poised therefore on a knife-edge.

It is possible that this method could work since they are right, these processes rely totally on computer power and if this fails they cannot proceed.

For me the important thing is this:

The Jews were forced to endure the worst attacks on their people over 2000 years and that culminated in the horrors of the Holocaust

America lost 3000 in horrible conditions on 9-11. the Jews lost 6 million and one half of their entire people, and the intention of antisemitism was total destruction of the Jews.

yet here 60 years later the Jews are again under attack and danger of annihilation by Ahmadinejad.

Will the Iranian Mullahs get the bomb, will they be stopped? these are the questions which are being used to torment the Jews once more.

yet if these countries in Europe and America took on Iran in full scale war then it would last maybe hours and the people of Iran itself would rise up and replace the Mullahs with a democracy of the people.

Why NOT military action against the Mullahs and use computer germ warfare as well.

My response to an article on Israpundit is that Netanyahu should be removed at once from the position of PM

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/28257

This is one of the key paragraphs

On the 14 June 2009, shortly after forming his government, Netanyahu spoke to the world in what has notoriously became known as his Bar-Ilan speech. Here the prime minister accepted the PLO charter and tore up the platform of the Likud and the entire camp he nominally leads. He accepted the fallacy of a “Palestinian people”- even though this Arab propaganda lie was created and still remains in place to delegitimize Israel and to create a 23rd Arab state in place of her. He accepted the lie and stated his intention to build a 23rd Arab state in the heart of the Land of Israel. He then tried to placate his supporters by saying such an entity will be “de-militarised” as if he would be able to dictate the national affairs of a separate sovereign country once created.

This is the second paragraph that damns Bibi

But Barak is not to blame, for his party secured little more than 10 percent of the vote and only half of his small party actually supports him in the Knesset (the rest being termed “rebels” by the Hebrew media). Bibi bears full responsibility as the prime minister and it seems he preferred to disproportionately give Labour 5 ministries and bestow Barak with power and privilege rather than give half a ministry to the National Union party and those loyal to the land of Israel.

So the cry must go out on all blogs and in all quarters to remove Bibi from the position of Prime Minister, give him a job in publicising the decisions of a patriotic government but watch him carefully.

As regards Iran other people will do the job better. In order to survive Israel will have to go to war with the Mullahs. America will not support Israel.

POPE BENEDICT IS SILENT ON PIUS 12, THE VATICAN AND THE HOLOCAUST

The essence of Pope Benedict´s visit to England seems to be the following

 

1. No mention at all of the serious threat to the Jews of Israel, and the danger to them from an Iranian Fascist Government led by Ahmadinejad, which has threatened Israel with war on many occasions

2. No mention of the Fascists who seek the destruction of Israel, called “Palestinians”, that is Abbas and Fatah, Hamas, and outside Iran, Hizbullah and Arab Fascist and antisemitic activity in most Arab countries

3. No support or defence of Israel from this Pope

4. No mention of Christians, and Catholics, being driven out of Iraq

5. In general, a serious cover provided to Islam and Sharia Law in a score of countries, in many of which Catholics are being killed.

 

But the key to Benedict lies in the Middle East. Israel is the Homeland of the Jews and the record of the Vatican towards the Jews is the worst possible, and was the centre of antisemitism in the world

 

Pope Benedict evades all of these issues and lectures the British people about them being “secular”. What a nerve this guy has!

 

At the centre of this Papal visit to Britain is not that weird cleric John Henry Newman, friend of Chesterton and of all people TS Eliot, but is the record of the Vatican  during the Holoicaust.

This is an extract from Jewish Virtual Library on the issue:

(Extract on Pius 12 during Holocaust starts here)

 

Pope Pius XII’s (1876-1958) actions during the Holocaust remain controversial. For much of the war, he maintained a public front of indifference and remained silent while German atrocities were committed. He refused pleas for help on the grounds of neutrality, while making statements condemning injustices in general. Privately, he sheltered a small number of Jews and spoke to a few select officials, encouraging them to help the Jews.

The Early Years

The Pope was born in 1876 in Rome as Eugenio Pacelli. He studied philosophy at the Gregorian University, learned theology at Sant Apollinare and was ordained in 1899. He entered the Secretariat of State for the Vatican in 1901, became a cardinal in 1929 and was appointed Secretary of State in 1930.

Pacelli lived in Germany from 1917, when he was appointed Papal Nuncio in Bavaria, until 1929. He knew what the Nazi party stood for, and was elected Pope in 1939 having said very little about Adolf Hitler’s ideology beyond a 1935 speech describing the Nazis as “miserable plagiarists who dress up old errors with new tinsel.” Pacelli told 250,000 pilgrims at Lourdes on April 28, “It does not make any difference whether they flock to the banners of the social revolution, whether they are guided by a false conception of the world and of life, or whether they are possessed by the superstition of a race and blood cult.” He believed National Socialism was “profoundly anti-Christian and a danger to Catholocism.”⁽¹⁾

Even as Cardinal, Pacelli’s actions regarding Hitler were controversial. Hitler took power on January 30, 1933. On July 20 that same year, Pacelli and German diplomat Franz Von Papen signed a concordat that granted freedom of practice to the Roman Catholic Church. In return, the Church agreed to separate religion from politics. This diminished the influence of the Catholic Center Party and the Catholic Labor unions. The concordat was generally viewed as a diplomatic victory for Hitler.^(1a)

Pacelli was elected Pope on March 2, 1939, and took the name Pius XII. As Pope, he had three official positions. He was head of his church and was in direct communication with bishops everywhere. He was chief of state of the Vatican, with his own diplomatic corps. He was also the Bishop of Rome. In theory, at least, his views could influence 400 million Catholics, including those in all the occupied eastern territories – the Poles, Baltics, Croatians, Slovaks and others.⁽²⁾

As soon as he was appointed Pope, Pacelli did speak out against the 1938 Italian racial laws that dealt with mixed marriages and children of mixed marriages.⁽³⁾ However, he issued no such condemnation of Kristallnacht (the night of broken glass) which occurred in November 1938, and which recent evidence shows he was informed of by Berlin’s papal nuncio. As the security of the Jewish population became more precarious, Pius XII did intervene the month he was elected Pope, March 1939, and obtained 3,000 visas to enter Brazil for European Jews who had been baptized and converted to Catholicism. Two-thirds of these were later revoked, however, because of “improper conduct,” probably meaning that the Jews started practicing Judaism once in Brazil. At that time, the Pope did nothing to save practicing Jews.⁽⁴⁾

Cries for Help

Throughout the Holocaust, Pius XII was consistently besieged with pleas for help on behalf of the Jews.

In the spring of 1940, the Chief Rabbi of Palestine, Isaac Herzog, asked the papal Secretary of State, Cardinal Luigi Maglione to intercede to keep Jews in Spain from being deported to Germany. He later made a similar request for Jews in Lithuania. The papacy did nothing.⁽⁵⁾

Within the Pope’s own church, Cardinal Theodor Innitzer of Vienna told Pius XII about Jewish deportations in 1941. In 1942, the Slovakian charge d’affaires, a position under the supervision of the Pope, reported to Rome that Slovakian Jews were being systematically deported and sent to death camps.⁽⁶⁾

In October 1941, the Assistant Chief of the U.S. delegation to the Vatican, Harold Tittman, asked the Pope to condemn the atrocities. The response came that the Holy See wanted to remain “neutral,” and that condemning the atrocities would have a negative influence on Catholics in German-held lands.⁽⁷⁾

In late August 1942, after more than 200,000 Ukrainian Jews had been killed, Ukrainian Metropolitan Andrej Septyckyj wrote a long letter to the Pope, referring to the German government as a regime of terror and corruption, more diabolical than that of the Bolsheviks. The Pope replied by quoting verses from Psalms and advising Septyckyj to “bear adversity with serene patience.”⁽⁸⁾

On September 18, 1942, Monsignor Giovanni Battista Montini, the future Pope Paul VI, wrote, “The massacres of the Jews reach frightening proportions and forms.”⁽⁹⁾ Yet, that same month when Myron Taylor, U.S. representative to the Vatican, warned the Pope that his silence was endangering his moral prestige, the Secretary of State responded on the Pope’s behalf that it was impossible to verify rumors about crimes committed against the Jews.⁽¹⁰⁾

Wladislaw Raczkiewicz, president of the Polish government-in-exile, appealed to the Pope in January 1943 to publicly denounce Nazi violence. Bishop Preysing of Berlin did the same, at least twice. Pius XII refused.⁽¹¹⁾

Papal Reasons and Responses

The Pope finally gave a reason for his consistent refusals to make a public statement in December 1942. The Allied governments issued a declaration, “German Policy of Extermination of the Jewish Race,” which stated that there would be retribution for the perpetrators of Jewish murders. When Tittman asked Secretary of State Maglione if the Pope could issue a similar proclamation, Maglione said the papacy was “unable to denounce publicly particular atrocities.”⁽¹²⁾ One reason for this position was that the staunchly anti-communist Pope felt he could not denounce the Nazis without including the Communists; therefore, Pius XII would only condemn general atrocities.⁽¹³⁾

The Pope did speak generally against the extermination campaign. On January 18, 1940, after the death toll of Polish civilians was estimated at 15,000, the Pope said in a broadcast, “The horror and inexcusable excesses committed on a helpless and a homeless people have been established by the unimpeachable testimony of eye-witnesses.”⁽¹⁴⁾ During his Christmas Eve radio broadcast in 1942, he referred to the “hundreds of thousands who through no fault of their own, and solely because of their nation or race, have been condemned to death or progressive extinction.”⁽¹⁵⁾ The Pope never mentioned the Jews by name.

In a September 1940 broadcast, the Vatican called its policy “neutrality,” but stated in the same broadcast that where morality was involved, no neutrality was possible.⁽¹⁸⁾ This could only imply that mass murder was not a moral issue.

The Pope’s indifference to the mistreatment of Jews was often clear. In 1941, for example, after being asked by French Marshal Henri Philippe Petain if the Vatican would object to anti-Jewish laws, Pius XII answered that the church condemned racism, but did not repudiate every rule against the Jews.⁽¹⁶⁾ When Petain’s French puppet government introduced “Jewish statutes,” the Vichy ambassador to the Holy See informed Petain that the Vatican did not consider the legislation in conflict with Catholic teachings, as long as they were carried out with “charity” and “justice.”⁽¹⁷⁾

Robert Wistrich notes that “by the end of 1942, the Vatican was among the best-informed institutions in Europe concerning the Holocaust. Except for the Germans or perhaps British intelligence, few people were more aware of the local details as well as the larger picture.”^(17a)

On September 8, 1943, the Nazis invaded Italy and, suddenly, the Vatican was the local authority. The Nazis gave the Jews 36 hours to come up with 50 kilograms of gold or else the Nazis would take 300 hostages. The Vatican was willing to loan 15 kilos, an offer that eventually proved unnecessary when the Jews obtained an extension for the delivery.⁽¹⁹⁾

Pius XII knew that Jewish deportations from Italy were impending. The Vatican even found out from SS First Lieutenant Kurt Gerstein the fate of those who were to be deported.⁽²⁰⁾ Publicly, the Pope stayed silent. Privately, Pius did instruct Catholic institutions to take in Jews. The Vatican itself hid 477 Jews and another 4,238 Jews were protected in Roman monasteries and convents.⁽²¹⁾

On October 16, the Nazis arrested 1,007 Roman Jews, the majority of whom were women and children. They were taken to Auschwitz, where 811 were gassed immediately. Of those sent to the concentration camp, 16 survived.⁽²²⁾

 

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html

 

 

VISIT OF POPE TO BRITAIN…WHY NOT TALK ABOUT THEIR HATRED OF JEWS?

WE ON 4INTERNATIONAL DO 2 THINGS HERE. FIRSTLY AN EXTRACT FROM THE SPEECH OF BENEDICT 16 WHEN HE SPOKE WITH RAMSEY IN LONDON. SECOND THE STATEMENTS FROM THE CHURCH LEADERS, AND ALTHOUGH WE INCLUDE LUTHER, LUTHER WAS NO DIFFERENT TO ANY OF THE CHURCH LEADERS…THIS WILL LEAD ON LATER TO HOW THE VATICAN TREATS ISRAEL TODAY. 

FAIR IS FAIR. LET THE HISTORY BE TOLD AND NOT HIDDEN BY THESE SHARP WORD MERCHANTS. 

  

Pope Benedict acts like a jealous lover. He does not like indifference…in this case the relative indifference of the British public, as opposed to the Media, to his visit. 

The Pope is like this jealous lover, and you know there is one thing the jealous lover cannot abide and that is indifference. 

  

So Benjamin acts as if the British people are attacking him (he calls it religion) 

  

Thus out of the papal hat he pulls his stunt “There has to be room in Britain for religion as well as secularism” 

  

It is a straw man if ever there was one. 

  

All of the Churches in British society have got an astoundingly privileged position, radio shows, television shows, weekly and daily pantomines some of which are also broadcast on the BBC et al, huge state affairs when the need arises, the Queen at Christmas, a diet of religion in the schools because the education system is not at all secular, even a space for that Sharia. 

  

But Britain, especially England, is essentially a Godless society, because the broad mass of the people are indifferent to religion 

  

But more and more they are not indifferent to hardship caused by economic gloom, and more and more the insular English in their own doddering manner are taking some decisive steps to becoming acquainted with the real world outside their narrow island 

  

In that context the Pope is filled with a deep anger against those very English people who just do not think of HIM 

  

The Pope seeks a voice. 

  

But there are 2 sides to this. If he is given a voice then his history in the broadest sense must also be made known 

  

The English are not going to allow God be snuck in under the counter without an examination of the merchandise they are being asked to buy. 

The Pope would like it otherwise. 

  

That is why Benedict spoke in riddles. 

  

  

THE BULL MANURE 

  

At the same time, however, we remain conscious of how much yet remains to be done. In a world marked by growing interdependence and solidarity, we are challenged to proclaim with renewed conviction the reality of our reconciliation and liberation in Christ, and to propose the truth of the Gospel as the key to an authentic and integral human development. In a society which has become increasingly indifferent or even hostile to the Christian message, we are all the more compelled to give a joyful and convincing account of the hope that is within us (cf. 1 Pet 3:15), and to present the Risen Lord as the response to the deepest questions and spiritual aspirations of the men and women of our time.  

As we processed to the chancel at the beginning of this service, the choir sang that Christ is our “sure foundation”. He is the Eternal Son of God, of one substance with the Father, who took flesh, as the Creed states, “for us men and for our salvation”. He alone has the words of everlasting life. In him, as the Apostle teaches, “all things hold together” … “for in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell” (Col 1:17,19). 

Our commitment to Christian unity is born of nothing less than our faith in Christ, in this Christ, risen from the dead and seated at the right hand of the Father, who will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead. It is the reality of Christ’s person, his saving work and above all the historical fact of his resurrection, which is the content of the apostolic kerygma and those credal formulas which, beginning in the New Testament itself, have guaranteed the integrity of its transmission. The Church’s unity, in a word, can never be other than a unity in the apostolic faith, in the faith entrusted to each new member of the Body of Christ during the rite of Baptism. It is this faith which unites us to the Lord, makes us sharers in his Holy Spirit, and thus, even now, sharers in the life of the Blessed Trinity, the model of the Church’s koinonia here below. 

Dear friends, we are all aware of the challenges, the blessings, the disappointments and the signs of hope which have marked our ecumenical journey. Tonight we entrust all of these to the Lord, confident in his providence and the power of his grace. We know that the friendships we have forged, the dialogue which we have begun and the hope which guides us will provide strength and direction as we persevere on our common journey. At the same time, with evangelical realism, we must also recognize the challenges which confront us, not only along the path of Christian unity, but also in our task of proclaiming Christ in our day. Fidelity to the word of God, precisely because it is a true word, demands of us an obedience which leads us together to a deeper understanding of the Lord’s will, an obedience which must be free of intellectual conformism or facile accommodation to the spirit of the age. This is the word of encouragement which I wish to leave with you this evening, and I do so in fidelity to my ministry as the Bishop of Rome and the Successor of Saint Peter, charged with a particular care for the unity of Christ’s flock. 

Gathered in this ancient monastic church, we can recall the example of a great Englishman and churchman whom we honour in common: Saint Bede the Venerable. At the dawn of a new age in the life of society and of the Church, Bede understood both the importance of fidelity to the word of God as transmitted by the apostolic tradition, and the need for creative openness to new developments and to the demands of a sound implantation of the Gospel in contemporary language and culture. 

This nation, and the Europe which Bede and his contemporaries helped to build, once again stands at the threshold of a new age. May Saint Bede’s example inspire the Christians of these lands to rediscover their shared legacy, to strengthen what they have in common, and to continue their efforts to grow in friendship. May the Risen Lord strengthen our efforts to mend the ruptures of the past and to meet the challenges of the present with hope in the future which, in his providence, he holds out to us and to our world. Amen. 

  

THE HISTORICAL REALITY 

  

Ignatius Bishop of Antioch (98-117A.D.) – Epistle to the Magnesians 

For if we are still practicing Judaism, we admit that we have not received God’s favor…it is wrong to talk about Jesus Christ and live like Jews. For Christianity did not believe in Judaism, but Judaism in Christianity. 

  

“Epistle of Barnabas” Chapter 4vs 6-7 (between 130A.D. and 138 A.D.) 

Take heed to yourselves and be not like some piling up you sins and saying that the covenant is theirs as well as ours. It is ours, but they lost it completely just after Moses received it. 

  

Justin Martyr – Dialogue with Trypho (Between 138A.D. and 161 A.D.) 

We too, would observe your circumcision of the flesh, your Sabbath days, and in a word, all you festivals, if we were not aware of the reason why they were imposed upon you, namely, because of your sins and the hardness of heart. 

 The custom of circumcising the flesh, handed down from Abraham, was given to you as a distinguishing mark, to set you off from other nations and from us Christians. The purpose of this was that you and only you might suffer the afflictions that are now justly yours; that only your land be desolated, and you cities ruined by fire, that the fruits of you land be eaten by strangers before your very eyes; that not one of you be permitted to enter your city of Jerusalem. Your circumcision of the flesh is the only mark by which you can certainly be distinguished from other men…as I stated before it was by reason of your sins and the sins of your fathers that, among other precepts, God imposed upon you the observence of the sabbath as a mark. 

  

Origen of Alexandria (185-254 A.D.) – A ecclesiastical writer and teacher who contributed to the early formation of Christian doctrines. 

We may thus assert in utter confidence that the Jews will not return to their earlier situation, for they have committed the most abominable of crimes, in forming this conspiracy against the Savior of the human race…hence the city where Jesus suffered was necessarily destroyed, the Jewish nation was driven from its country, and another people was called by God to the blessed election. 

  

John Chrysostom (344-407 A.D.) – One of the “greatest” of church fathers; known as “The Golden Mouthed.” A missionary preacher famous for his sermons and addresses.  

The synagogue is worse than a brothel…it is the den of scoundrels and the repair of wild beasts…the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults…the refuge of brigands and dabauchees, and the cavern of devils. It is a criminal assembly of Jews…a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ… a house worse than a drinking shop…a den of thieves, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, the refuge of devils, a gulf and a abyss of perdition.”…”I would say the same things about their souls… As for me, I hate the synagogue…I hate the Jews for the same reason. 

From “The Roots of Christian Anti-Semitism” by Malcolm Hay 

  

St. Augustine (c. 354-430 A.D.), Confessions, 12.14  

How hateful to me are the enemies of your Scripture! How I wish that you would slay them (the Jews) with your two-edged sword, so that there should be none to oppose your word! Gladly would I have them die to themselves and live to you! 

   

Peter the Venerable – known as “the meekest of men, a model of Christian charity” 

Yes, you Jews. I say, do I address you; you, who till this very day, deny the Son of God. How long, poor wretches, will ye not believe the truth? Truly I doubt whether a Jew can be really human… I lead out from its den a monstrous animal, and show it as a laughing stock in the amphitheater of the world, in the sight of all the people. I bring thee forward, thou Jew, thou brute beast, in the sight of all men. 

 From “The Roots of Christian Anti-Semitism” by Malcolm Hay 

  

Martin Luther – 1543 

On The Jews and Their Lies 

What then shall we Christians do with this damned, rejected race of Jews? Since they live among us and we know about their lying and blasphemy and cursing, we can not tolerate them if we do not wish to share in their lies, curses, and blasphemy. In this way we cannot quench the inextinguishable fire of divine rage nor convert the Jews. We must prayerfully and reverentially practice a merciful severity. Perhaps we may save a few from the fire and flames [of hell]. We must not seek vengeance. They are surely being punished a thousand times more than we might wish them. Let me give you my honest advice. 

First, their synagogues should be set on fire, and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt so that no one may ever be able to see a cinder or stone of it. And this ought to be done for the honor of God and of Christianity in order that God may see that we are Christians, and that we have not wittingly tolerated or approved of such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of His Son and His Christians. 

Secondly, their homes should likewise be broken down and destroyed. For they perpetrate the same things there that they do in their synagogues. For this reason they ought to be put under one roof or in a stable, like gypsies, in order that they may realize that they are not masters in our land, as they boast, but miserable captives, as they complain of incessantly before God with bitter wailing. 

Thirdly, they should be deprived of their prayer-books and Talmuds in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught. 

Fourthly, their rabbis must be forbidden under threat of death to teach any more… 

Fifthly, passport and traveling privileges should be absolutely forbidden to the Jews. For they have no business in the rural districts since they are not nobles, nor officials, nor merchants, nor the like. Let them stay at home…If you princes and nobles do not close the road legally to such exploiters, then some troop ought to ride against them, for they will learn from this pamphlet what the Jews are and how to handle them and that they ought not to be protected. You ought not, you cannot protect them, unless in the eyes of God you want to share all their abomination… 

To sum up, dear princes and nobles who have Jews in your domains, if this advice of mine does not suit you, then find a better one so that you and we may all be free of this insufferable devilish burden – the Jews… 

Let the government deal with them in this respect, as I have suggested. But whether the government acts or not, let everyone at least be guided by his own conscience and form for himself a definition or image of a Jew. When you lay eyes on or think of a Jew you must say to yourself: Alas, that mouth which I there behold has cursed and execrated and maligned every Saturday my dear Lord Jesus Christ, who has redeemed me with his precious blood; in addition, it prayed and pleaded before God that I, my wife and children, and all Christians might be stabbed to death and perish miserably. And he himself would gladly do this if he were able, in order to appropriate our goods… 

Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews, who for these fourteen hundred years have been and still are our plague, our pestilence, and our misfortune. 

I have read and heard many stories about the Jews which agree with this judgment of Christ, namely, how they have poisoned wells, made assassinations, kidnapped children, as related before. I have heard that one Jew sent another Jew, and this by means of a Christian, a pot of blood, together with a barrel of wine, in which when drunk empty, a dead Jew was found. There are many other similar stories. For their kidnapping of children they have often been burned at the stake or banished (as we already heard). I am well aware that they deny all of this. However, it all coincides with the judgment of Christ which declares that they are venomous, bitter, vindictive, tricky serpents, assassins, and children of the devil, who sting and work harm stealthily wherever they cannot do it openly. For this reason, I would like to see them where there are no Christians. The Turks and other heathen do not tolerate what we Christians endure from these venomous serpents and young devils…next to the devil, a Christian has no more bitter and galling foe than a Jew. There is no other to whom we accord as many benefactions and from whom we suffer as much as we do from these base children of the devil, this brood of vipers. 

Translated by Martin H. Bertram, “On The Jews and Their Lies, Luther’s Works, Volume 47”; Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971. 

  

Martin Luther – 1543 

Of The Unknowable Name and The Generations of Christ 

But your [God’s] judgment is right, justus es Dominie. Yes, so shall Jews, but no one else be punished, who held your word and miracles in contempt and ridiculed, insulted and damned it for such a long time without interruption, so that they will not fall, like other humans, heathens and all the others, into sin and death, not up in Hell, nor in the middle of Hell but in the pit of Hell, as one cannot fall deeper… 

Even if they were punished in the most gruesome manner that the streets ran with their blood, that their dead would be counted, not in the hundred thousands, but in the millions, as happened under Vespasian in Jerusalem and for evil under Hadrian, still they must insist on being right even if after these 1,500 years they were in misery another 1,500 years, still God must be a liar and they must be correct. In sum, they are the devil’s children, damned to Hell… 

The Jews too got what they deserved. They had been called and elected to be God’s mouth as Jeremiah says…Open your mouth wide and I will fill it; they however, kept tightly closed their muzzles, eyes, ears, nose, whole heart and all senses, so he polluted and squirted them so full that it oozes from them in all places and devil’s filth comes from them. 

Yes, that tastes good to them, into their hearts, they smack their lips like swine. That is how they want it. Call more: ‘Crucify him, crucify him.’ Scream more: ‘His blood come upon us and our children.’ (Matthew 27:25) I mean it came and found you… 

Perhaps, one of the merciful Saints among us Christians may think I am behaving too crude and disdainfully against the poor, miserable Jews in that I deal with them so sarcastically and insulting. But, good God, I am much too mild in insulting such devils… 

  

John Calvin 

A Response To Questions and Objections of a Certain Jew 

Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone. 

Excerpt from “Ad Quaelstiones et Objecta Juaei Cuiusdam Responsio,” by John Calvin; The Jew in Christian Theology, Gerhard Falk, McFarland and Company, Inc., Jefferson, NC and London, 1931.  

Ignatius Bishop of Antioch (98-117A.D.) – Epistle to the Magnesians 

For if we are still practicing Judaism, we admit that we have not received God’s favor…it is wrong to talk about Jesus Christ and live like Jews. For Christianity did not believe in Judaism, but Judaism in Christianity. 

  

“Epistle of Barnabas” Chapter 4vs 6-7 (between 130A.D. and 138 A.D.) 

Take heed to yourselves and be not like some piling up you sins and saying that the covenant is theirs as well as ours. It is ours, but they lost it completely just after Moses received it. 

  

Justin Martyr – Dialogue with Trypho (Between 138A.D. and 161 A.D.) 

We too, would observe your circumcision of the flesh, your Sabbath days, and in a word, all you festivals, if we were not aware of the reason why they were imposed upon you, namely, because of your sins and the hardness of heart. 

 The custom of circumcising the flesh, handed down from Abraham, was given to you as a distinguishing mark, to set you off from other nations and from us Christians. The purpose of this was that you and only you might suffer the afflictions that are now justly yours; that only your land be desolated, and you cities ruined by fire, that the fruits of you land be eaten by strangers before your very eyes; that not one of you be permitted to enter your city of Jerusalem. Your circumcision of the flesh is the only mark by which you can certainly be distinguished from other men…as I stated before it was by reason of your sins and the sins of your fathers that, among other precepts, God imposed upon you the observence of the sabbath as a mark. 

  

Origen of Alexandria (185-254 A.D.) – A ecclesiastical writer and teacher who contributed to the early formation of Christian doctrines. 

We may thus assert in utter confidence that the Jews will not return to their earlier situation, for they have committed the most abominable of crimes, in forming this conspiracy against the Savior of the human race…hence the city where Jesus suffered was necessarily destroyed, the Jewish nation was driven from its country, and another people was called by God to the blessed election. 

  

John Chrysostom (344-407 A.D.) – One of the “greatest” of church fathers; known as “The Golden Mouthed.” A missionary preacher famous for his sermons and addresses.  

The synagogue is worse than a brothel…it is the den of scoundrels and the repair of wild beasts…the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults…the refuge of brigands and dabauchees, and the cavern of devils. It is a criminal assembly of Jews…a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ… a house worse than a drinking shop…a den of thieves, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, the refuge of devils, a gulf and a abyss of perdition.”…”I would say the same things about their souls… As for me, I hate the synagogue…I hate the Jews for the same reason. 

From “The Roots of Christian Anti-Semitism” by Malcolm Hay 

  

St. Augustine (c. 354-430 A.D.), Confessions, 12.14  

How hateful to me are the enemies of your Scripture! How I wish that you would slay them (the Jews) with your two-edged sword, so that there should be none to oppose your word! Gladly would I have them die to themselves and live to you! 

   

Peter the Venerable – known as “the meekest of men, a model of Christian charity” 

Yes, you Jews. I say, do I address you; you, who till this very day, deny the Son of God. How long, poor wretches, will ye not believe the truth? Truly I doubt whether a Jew can be really human… I lead out from its den a monstrous animal, and show it as a laughing stock in the amphitheater of the world, in the sight of all the people. I bring thee forward, thou Jew, thou brute beast, in the sight of all men. 

 From “The Roots of Christian Anti-Semitism” by Malcolm Hay 

  

Martin Luther – 1543 

On The Jews and Their Lies 

What then shall we Christians do with this damned, rejected race of Jews? Since they live among us and we know about their lying and blasphemy and cursing, we can not tolerate them if we do not wish to share in their lies, curses, and blasphemy. In this way we cannot quench the inextinguishable fire of divine rage nor convert the Jews. We must prayerfully and reverentially practice a merciful severity. Perhaps we may save a few from the fire and flames [of hell]. We must not seek vengeance. They are surely being punished a thousand times more than we might wish them. Let me give you my honest advice. 

First, their synagogues should be set on fire, and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt so that no one may ever be able to see a cinder or stone of it. And this ought to be done for the honor of God and of Christianity in order that God may see that we are Christians, and that we have not wittingly tolerated or approved of such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of His Son and His Christians. 

Secondly, their homes should likewise be broken down and destroyed. For they perpetrate the same things there that they do in their synagogues. For this reason they ought to be put under one roof or in a stable, like gypsies, in order that they may realize that they are not masters in our land, as they boast, but miserable captives, as they complain of incessantly before God with bitter wailing. 

Thirdly, they should be deprived of their prayer-books and Talmuds in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught. 

Fourthly, their rabbis must be forbidden under threat of death to teach any more… 

Fifthly, passport and traveling privileges should be absolutely forbidden to the Jews. For they have no business in the rural districts since they are not nobles, nor officials, nor merchants, nor the like. Let them stay at home…If you princes and nobles do not close the road legally to such exploiters, then some troop ought to ride against them, for they will learn from this pamphlet what the Jews are and how to handle them and that they ought not to be protected. You ought not, you cannot protect them, unless in the eyes of God you want to share all their abomination… 

To sum up, dear princes and nobles who have Jews in your domains, if this advice of mine does not suit you, then find a better one so that you and we may all be free of this insufferable devilish burden – the Jews… 

Let the government deal with them in this respect, as I have suggested. But whether the government acts or not, let everyone at least be guided by his own conscience and form for himself a definition or image of a Jew. When you lay eyes on or think of a Jew you must say to yourself: Alas, that mouth which I there behold has cursed and execrated and maligned every Saturday my dear Lord Jesus Christ, who has redeemed me with his precious blood; in addition, it prayed and pleaded before God that I, my wife and children, and all Christians might be stabbed to death and perish miserably. And he himself would gladly do this if he were able, in order to appropriate our goods… 

Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews, who for these fourteen hundred years have been and still are our plague, our pestilence, and our misfortune. 

I have read and heard many stories about the Jews which agree with this judgment of Christ, namely, how they have poisoned wells, made assassinations, kidnapped children, as related before. I have heard that one Jew sent another Jew, and this by means of a Christian, a pot of blood, together with a barrel of wine, in which when drunk empty, a dead Jew was found. There are many other similar stories. For their kidnapping of children they have often been burned at the stake or banished (as we already heard). I am well aware that they deny all of this. However, it all coincides with the judgment of Christ which declares that they are venomous, bitter, vindictive, tricky serpents, assassins, and children of the devil, who sting and work harm stealthily wherever they cannot do it openly. For this reason, I would like to see them where there are no Christians. The Turks and other heathen do not tolerate what we Christians endure from these venomous serpents and young devils…next to the devil, a Christian has no more bitter and galling foe than a Jew. There is no other to whom we accord as many benefactions and from whom we suffer as much as we do from these base children of the devil, this brood of vipers. 

Translated by Martin H. Bertram, “On The Jews and Their Lies, Luther’s Works, Volume 47″; Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971. 

  

Martin Luther – 1543 

Of The Unknowable Name and The Generations of Christ 

But your [God’s] judgment is right, justus es Dominie. Yes, so shall Jews, but no one else be punished, who held your word and miracles in contempt and ridiculed, insulted and damned it for such a long time without interruption, so that they will not fall, like other humans, heathens and all the others, into sin and death, not up in Hell, nor in the middle of Hell but in the pit of Hell, as one cannot fall deeper… 

Even if they were punished in the most gruesome manner that the streets ran with their blood, that their dead would be counted, not in the hundred thousands, but in the millions, as happened under Vespasian in Jerusalem and for evil under Hadrian, still they must insist on being right even if after these 1,500 years they were in misery another 1,500 years, still God must be a liar and they must be correct. In sum, they are the devil’s children, damned to Hell… 

The Jews too got what they deserved. They had been called and elected to be God’s mouth as Jeremiah says…Open your mouth wide and I will fill it; they however, kept tightly closed their muzzles, eyes, ears, nose, whole heart and all senses, so he polluted and squirted them so full that it oozes from them in all places and devil’s filth comes from them. 

Yes, that tastes good to them, into their hearts, they smack their lips like swine. That is how they want it. Call more: ‘Crucify him, crucify him.’ Scream more: ‘His blood come upon us and our children.’ (Matthew 27:25) I mean it came and found you… 

Perhaps, one of the merciful Saints among us Christians may think I am behaving too crude and disdainfully against the poor, miserable Jews in that I deal with them so sarcastically and insulting. But, good God, I am much too mild in insulting such devils… 

  

John Calvin 

A Response To Questions and Objections of a Certain Jew 

Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone. 

Excerpt from “Ad Quaelstiones et Objecta Juaei Cuiusdam Responsio,” by John Calvin; The Jew in Christian Theology, Gerhard Falk, McFarland and Company, Inc., Jefferson, NC and London, 1931.

UNITED STATES JUDGE STEPHEN BREYER SEEKS CENSORSHIP AS VATICAN ATTACKS RATIONALISM

The following quote is from Pamela Geller and Atlas Shrugs. Geller is almost alone in seeing the great danger to American freedom from this attack on the First Amendment by Supreme Judge Stephen Breyer.

As our analysis which follows the Geller quote shows, this attack is connected to the attack by Pope Benedict on the method of English thought known as rationalism. Indeed it is an attack on science itself, because if limits are placed on free speech then science becomes an impossibility. As I state at the end I do not thing Breyer is a “Leftist”.

The leftists on the Supreme Court continue to rip the Constitution to shreds. SCOTUS judge Stephen Breyer said that while the “core values remain,” “how they apply can change” — suggesting that qur’an burning would not be protected under the first amendment. But our unalienable rights “endowed by our creator”  never change. The idea that a judge of the Supreme Court would bend to the sharia is a death blow for free men. If Americans are free and not under Sharia, then the qur’an can be burned, as bad an idea as that might be. Free men can do this if they want, and their freedom and rights should be protected. Islamic supremacists should not be allowed a victory for their violent intimidation — if these people want to burn a book, they’re free to do so.

Justice Breyer Suggests That Burning a Quran Could be Like Shouting ‘Fire’ in a Crowded Theatre–Thus Not Protected by 1st Amendment CNS hat tip Lisa

Supreme Court Associate Justice Stephen Breyer said on Tuesday that globalization may change the way the First Amendment applies in the United States, and he suggested that Pastor Terry Jones’ proposed Quran-burning may or may not be protected under the First Amendment.

Breyer — appearing on ABC’s “Good Morning America” to promote his book “Making Our Democracy Work” — made the comments to anchor George Stephanopoulos.

Stephanopoulos was a senior adviser to President Bill Clinton when Breyer was elevated to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1994. The ABC anchorman asked the justice to explain whether globalization, and Jones’s ability to broadcast his actions, poses “a challenge” to the First Amendment.

“[W]hen we spoke several years ago, you talked about how the process of globalization was changing our understanding of the law,” Stephanopoulos began. “When you think about the Internet and when you think about the possibility that, you know, a pastor in Florida with a flock of 30 can threaten to burn the Quran, and that leads to riots and killings in Afghanistan, does that pose a challenge to the First Amendment—to how you interpret it? Does it change the nature of…what we can allow and protect?”

“Well, in a sense, yes; in a sense, no,” Breyer replied. “People can express their views in debate, no matter how awful those views are — in debate, a conversation, people exchanging ideas. That’s the model so that, in fact, we are better informed when we cast that ballot.”

While the “core values remain,” Breyer continued, “how they apply can change” over time, he suggested.

Breyer pointed to Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes’ opinion in a 1919 case testing the limits of First Amendment protection. Holmes argued that shouting “fire!” in a crowded theater would not be protected speech because people could be trampled in the rush to escape a burning theater.

“And what is the crowded theater today?” Breyer asked. “What is being trampled to death?”

On Tuesday morning, Breyer said any new interpretation of the First Amendment and the “crowded theater” benchmark will be decided over time through jurisprudence.

“Yes, well perhaps that will be answered by—if it’s answered by our court, it will be answered over time in a series of cases, which force people to think carefully. That’s the virtue of cases,” he said

Posted by Pamela Geller on Thursday, September 16, 2010

Far reaching:  This is indeed very troubling and with far reaching consequences. Pamela Geller is very correct in highlighting the poison filled words of this lawyer, albeit a very powerful one, this person Breyer.

This attack by Breyer on free speech and the First Amendment in America, goes along with the distortion of history and reality in the (mis) reporting of everything that went on in Yugoslavia, especially the creation of the myth Srebrenica, all those myths creation in support of this mythical “Palestinians”, and now more recently the complete distortion surround the Pope and his visit to Britain, where the issue is not a handful of Paedophiles in dog collars, but the historical role of the Vatican under Pius 12 in the support of Hitler and the coming to power of the Nazis in Germany, which they would not have done without that support

Crisis: it is the terminal crisis in capitalism which is driving. The Pope has descended onto modern Britain and rather than an attack on Islam, he has launched into an attack on the secular values of the British people. In other words the pope is an ally of Islam and Sharia law, on the same side actually as the present Archbishop of Westminster

Clinton and Srebrenica: Do not forget that Clinton also came from this catholic milieu; his mother was a Cassidy who was a catholic from Ireland. But Clinton was the biggest liar that the White House had ever seen. There is something about the honeyed hypocrisy of Catholic politicians that lends to lies, although not exclusive to them.

The repercussions of this lonely Pastor down in Florida are continuing to rumble. I disagreed a little with Pamela on this. Pastor Jones struck a huge blow for freedom. Geert Wilder has called for the banning of the Koran, as he places it on the same level as Mein Kamph. He may have qualified this somewhat, in that it was in the context of “if they ban my film Fitna they should ban the Koran” paraphrasing

I disagree also with Peter Tatchel. He has made too much of these few paedophiles in dog collars, and not enough of the historical role of the Vatican along with the Nazis, in the Holocaust, and especially the role of the Vatican in the Holocaust against Serbs, Jews and Roma in Croatia and Yugoslavia.

Tatchel is a support of the “Palestinians” founded precisely by those Arab Nazis, especially the Nazi criminal and sidekick to Eichmann in the carrying out of the Holocaust against 6 million Jews, Hajj Amin el Husseini

PS  I disagree with some of Pamela Geller´s terminology, in this case when she describes this utter pro American capitalist and American ruling class reactionary Stephen Breyer as one of the “Leftists”. But there is so much that I agree with Pamela on…We will iron these issues out as we go along.

POPE´S VISIT, FORGET PAEDOPHILIA, THE MAJOR ISSUE IS THE VATICAN HATRED FOR ISRAEL, AND FOR JEWS!

1920 – Original territory assigned to the Jewish National Home

1922 – Final territory assigned to the Jewish National Home

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 “In Palestine as of Right and Not on Sufferance …”

EVERY PART OF THE MAPS ABOVE THE VATICAN OPPOSES! EVERY ASPECT OF HISTORY CONCERNING THOSE MAPS THE VATICAN OPPOSES!

EVERY PART OF THE ANALYSIS WHICH FOLLOWS IN THE PARAGRAPHS BELOW FROM “MYTHS AND FACTS” THE VATICAN TODAY AND ALWAYS OPPOSES.

THE GREAT DISTORTER OF HISTORY!

 

“When it is asked what is meant by the development of the Jewish National Home in Palestine, it may be answered that it is not the imposition of a Jewish nationality upon the inhabitants of Palestine as a whole, but the further development of the existing Jewish community, with the assistance of Jews in other parts of the world, in order that it may become a centre in which the Jewish people as a whole may take, on grounds of religion and race, an interest and a pride. But in order that this community should have the best prospect of free development and provide a full opportunity for the Jewish people to display its capacities, it is essential that it should know that it is in Palestine as of right and not on sufferance.”

Winston Churchill
British Secretary of State for the Colonies
June 1922

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Introduction

Ever ask yourself why during the 30 year period – between 1917 to 1947 – thousands of Jews throughout the world woke up one morning and decided to leave their homes and go to Palestine? The majority did this because they heard that a future national home for the Jewish people was being established in Palestine, on the basis of the League of Nations obligation under the “Mandate for Palestine” document. The “Mandate for Palestine,” an historical League of Nations document, laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. The “Mandate for Palestine” was not a naive vision briefly embraced by the international community. Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

It is important to point out that political rights to self-determination as a polity for Arabs were guaranteed by the same League of Nations in four other mandates – in Lebanon and Syria (The French Mandate), Iraq, and later Trans-Jordan [The British Mandate].

Any attempt to negate the Jewish people’s right to Palestine – Eretz-Israel, and to deny them access and control in the area designated for the Jewish people by the League of Nations is a serious infringement of international law.

The above is the beginning of a serious study by “Myths and Facts” on this very day September 17, 2010

It deals with historical fact. It is placed on this site precisely as the head of the Vatican is proceeding throughout England, the home of the protestant and puritan revolutionary, truly an English national hero, the likes of which England did not see before, and has not seen since, the man who actually made England great, at this time when this Pope enters England spouting his own unique brand of lies. That man was of course Oliver Cromwell! The Vatican lies through its back teeth but it does so in its own unique style,  so respectful LOL!, so calm LOL!, so full of vatican shit!

The very man, Benedict, who donned the Fascist clothing of the Nazis, now warns the English, who really did fight the Nazis, that they are becoming Nazis, and why?: because they are rejecting the lies of that very same Vatican.

So let us at this point draw the discussion down to the key thing. There are many forces in the world who want to destroy all memory of the Map above, and in that way to destroy the Israel of today, the Homeland of the Jews, and we on 4international are absolutely certain that the Vatican leads in this DEVILISH venture.

The maps above are courtesy of a wonderful Jewish organization, Myths and Facts, an organization which does not tell lies about the past. History is important to us Trotskyists on 4international and since we believe that repetition is an important factor in establishing the truth, we will be repeating these and other maps, not a few times, but many times.

I think the best answer to Benedict is to draw the discussion around Benedict, and his odious predecessor, to history.

Let us fight the issues out against this corrupt Vatican, and against all other corrupters in all organizations, to history, and to a scientific (truthful) understanding of history!

The above map produced by Myths and Facts is the important thing.

Not priests in dog collars engaging in paedophilia, because all kinds of people engage in paedophilia, including the very founder of Islam, since he married a small girl, Aisha, at 6 and consummated the marriage at 9, and that remains the age of Islamic consummation today, by law.

But this. The position of Benedict towards Israel and the Jewish people today, towards the sole Jewish Homeland. I think that is the central issue with the Vatican, during this visit, and at all times.

HARRY´S PLACE LEADERS ARE DESPARATELY TELLING LIES AGAINST GELLER AND SPENCER

Gene, September 12th 2010, 6:11 pm

Writing at The Propagandist before the September 11 anniversary, Ben Cohen drew a connection between two people who, on the surface, couldn’t appear more different:

[W]here [Pamela] Geller has “Islam” waging a war on “us,” [George] Galloway will flip it and roar that “we” are waging war on “Islam.” Some of his co-speakers at the 9/11 conference – like Cynthia McKinney and Wayne Madsen – will go one step further by claiming that the opening salvo in this war was actually an inside job, and that we should look to Mossad, rather than Al Qaeda, for answers.

Lost in all this is the salutary observation made by Jonathon Narvey in these pages yesterday that when western bombast touches off violence in the Islamic world, the majority of those left dead are more than likely to be Muslims. Lost, too, is the understanding that the potential clash of pathologies at Ground Zero could just as easily result in an embrace.

Take, for example, the record of both camps on the orgy of Serb nationalist violence in the Balkans during the 1990s. Geller has been outspoken in her defense of the late Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic, the architect of ethnic cleansing, and Radovan Karadzic, the Bosnian Serb war criminal who directed the rapes and massacres in Banja Luka, Srebrenica, Gorazde and other Bosnian towns and cities. For Galloway, speaking on his show on the Iranian Holocaust denial outfit Press TV, Milosevic, Karadzic and his old buddy Saddam Hussein were set up as war criminals in order to hide the real war criminals (no prizes for guessing whom he is referring to.)

It may be true that one is motivated by loathing of Muslims and the other by a loathing of the United States and all its works, but what should that tell us? For one thing… that the semblance of division elides an underlying unity. For another – and this is perhaps a tad more important – that the lesson of Bosnia and Kosovo is that the United States is not at war with Islam, and nor is Islam at war with the United States, except in the heads of these demagogic popinjays.

Still not persuaded? Then consider this. Back in July, the Taliban congratulated the Dutch government on the withdrawal of its forces from Afghanistan. That little triumph, as Terry Glavin argued in a piece on the left and Afghanistan, “was handed to them by the right-wing populist Geert Wilders.”

Indeed one of the lesser-reported facts about Wilders and his Dutch Freedom Party is that they were among those who successfully clamored for the Netherlands to withdraw from the NATO contingent in Afghanistan. Given their anti-Muslim bigotry, of course, this position made perfect sense. Why spend blood and treasure helping to protect Muslims from other Muslims when, in the end, they’re all just Muslims?

Now Wilders is one of those heading to New York for the 9/11 commemorations, but whose event will he be attending? He’s speaking at Geller’s rally, in fact, but there is no reason why he should not, literally and metaphorically, cross the street later on to join Galloway in pressing the case that the Muslim girls and women of Afghanistan be left to the mercies of the Taliban. After all, if Islam is a monolith, then who cares what happens to its adherents?

Those of us who still cling to reason should remember that whether Muslims are killed in the name of isolationism or cultural relativism or anti-imperialism, they are still being killed – and that many non-Muslims, some in uniform, some not, will die alongside them. That is why I want to end by restating what, to us at any rate, is obvious. The ominous force which carried out 9/11 was that complex of reactionary beliefs known as Islamism, not the physical presence of Muslims in America or anywhere else.

Moreover, while the Gellers and Galloways of this world screech about what divides us, in the schools of Kabul and the voting booths of Sulaymaniyah, we are afforded a glimpse of what unites us. I’ve too much respect for the memory of those who perished on 9/11 to boil that down into a placard slogan to wave at Ground Zero, but it’s what I shall quietly think about.

THE ABOVE IS WHAT HARRY´S PLACE WROTE IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO TELL LIES ABOUT THE POLITICS OF ROBERT SPENCER AND PAMELA GELLER

IT IS REALLY SCANDALOUS. BUT THESE WRITERS ON HARRY´S PLACE ALSO TOLD LIES AGAINST THE SERBS, ESPECIALLY AGAINST MILOSEVIC AND KARADZIC. ABOVE ALL THEY WORKED TO CREATE THE SREBRENICA BIG LIE

This guy “Gene”, The Augean Stables will be very interested is an “alter Jew”!!!

That means in Richard Landes parlance, he is a Jew who is filled to his gills with political correctness.

(Extract from Wikipedia: Other contributors include Marcus, Gene Zitver (aka “Gene”) (who regularly deletes posts he disagrees with), David Toube, and more recently, Adam LeBor, Brett Lock, Brian Meredith and others.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry’s_Place

Gene is one of those founders on Harry´s Place who is holding the whole ramshackle operation together

The speed of the crisis, especially the way that the American people, in a truly mass sense, is moving against Islam not just in America, but internationally, is driving Harry´s Place founders into a tail-spin

It is a delight to watch.

The founders some years back were people in the circle of Oliver Kamm and Nick Cohen. But it would be wrong to think in terms of individuals. It was rather more a caste or cult in British society.

One of the factors was political correctness but there were others.

Two in particular stand out. There was a defense of Islam. In the case of Yugoslavia this was not really a defense of that will of the wisp “moderate” Islam, but the Islam of Izetbegovic, which was the Islam of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islam of Hajj Amin el Husseini, the Islam of the Holocaust, yes that real Islam, which was the Islam that Herr Hitler found so appealing.

But that Islam wants to kill Jews, surely not! Oh yes, and that is why the phenomenon of those like Gene and David T is so puzzling but interesting

I mentioned two. The second was just plain old anti communism. those folk around Cohen hate that political line from Marx through 1917 to Trotsky, and they do not even recognize that there were differences between Trotsky and Stalin. In other words they distort history.

Did Galloway support Milosevic as gene says? Well it was a strange support because Galloway also supported Izetbegovic. Show us where Galloway opposed Izetbegovic. How could Galloway do that, he is pro Islam!

Pamela Geller supported the Serbs and Milosevic, also Karadzic, because she realized that the Serbs were fighting against the Jihad.

Look at the post above by “Gene” again. There seems to be something neurotic in the way he has swung back to Milosevic.

It is like a bolt out of the blue. These characters in harry´s Place are threshing about, in their political death agony.

And the viciousness against Pamela Geller, shown in his suggestion that geller and Galloway would have anything in common (LOL), shows how very dangerous some of these elements such as the founders of Harry´s Place really are.

THE MEDIA ARE TELLING LIES AGAINST ROBERT SPENCER AND PAMELA GELLER

Our rally: patriots everywhere (Photo from Looking At the Left)

 

 

Their rally: A handful of Communists and tools of Islamic supremacists (Photo from The People’s Cube)

 

(Felix Quigley adds: Using the name of “communists” to describe these pro Islamofascists in these discredited groups, some of whom are Stalinists, and Stalinism remember is the antithesis of communism, is very debatable. That does not detract from the rest of what Robert Spencer writes here)

 

The above are two contrasting photographs, both taken facing each demonstration.

The following is an analysis of this situation, where the Media in America, we also now know the Media world wide, have been lying about what happened.

From the beginning the Media wrote about this situation on the 9^th Anniversary of 9-11 as being a duel between two equal groups, and the suggestion was that they were both extremist fringe.

So who turned out for these rallies assumed a very big importance. In other words to cut through the Media lies is of great importance.

We have had polls which showed in the weeks previous that the majority of the American people, 72 per cent, were against building this Mosque.

That is the key figure and the key point. The American people are moving into a position of opposition to Islam, because this kind of figure has to mean that Democrat and Republican are both filled with voters who oppose this Mosque, and who therefore oppose Obama on this issue.

 

Begin analysis of this event by Robert Spencer

(note by Felix Quigley: I need to doubly emphasise this point: The term used by Robert Spencer as to these very dubious people in these very dubious groups being “communists” is very wrong and has to be challenged.

Otherwise Robert will fall into a trap and the full truth of what is actually happening will not come out.

(We are communists, on 4international, and we oppose this Mosque on Ground Zero)

Media bias has been especially egregious regarding our 9/11 Rally of Remembrance and the counter-rally of Communists and dupes of Islamic supremacism; the New York Post and AP both claimed that the Leftist/Islamic supremacist rally was larger than ours, and focused on minutiae instead of reporting on what the speakers actually said.

Unfortunately for the media, however, we have the videos, posted below, and photos such as those above. For the full story, see Atlas Shrugs, Looking At the Left, and The People’s Cube. And I will keep you posted as more becomes available.

 

There follows now comments from 2 people who went to both rallies. The first comment in particular tries to take a scientific approach to an analysis of both crowds. This is not impossible. It is a very logical thing to do. I myself wondered at this, especially the width of the New York boulevard, and its length, because pictures can deceive.

It follows that the anti Mosque demonstration was several times, at least, larger than that of the pro Mosque.

This is so important. Not just a matter of figures etc. it shows that the Media were operating some kind of conspiracy in the reporting of this event.

How does this conspiracy work is another matter. I myself think that it is an ideological matter. Present day journalists have not been trained to report facts, but rather have been trained to think that it is good to be emotional, and in their emoting they turn journalism into a big lie. Being emotional is no crime, but replacing the facts with what you wish is a major crime against truth.

Put it even more simply and starkly: if they lied on this event, then they also lied on other vital events, for example, on the whole of the Media coverage of what happened in Yugoslavia in the 1990s.

 

(Begin two reports from 2 people on the scene and who attended both demos)

 

Tyler’s observations:

I attended both rallies, and witnessed the events at their maximum capacity. Without a doubt, the pro-mosque event was about 1/6th, maybe 1/10th, the size of Geller’s event.

Let us simply analyze the areas occupied by each group – it really isn’t that difficult, as each group occupied an obviously differing size in area:

pro mosque rally: Stretched from Park to Warren along the Eastern sidewalk of City Hall Park. Furthmore, these groups tended to constantly circle the barricaded area, exaggerating their presence, but I will disregard that fact.

The sidewalk along the park is approximately 25 feet wide. A Standard Manhattan block is approximately 260 feet by 900 feet. We can then assign 4 square feet per person. Knowing the the pro-mosque event stretched from Park Pl. to Warren Street, we can then dictate: 260 feet per block x 2 blocks x 25 feet wide divided by 4 square feet per person = 3,250 people…This doesn’t take into account the fact that many people continuously circled the area creating an illusion of more people, nor does it account for the massive holes in the crowd resulting from hippy drum circles, indian powwows, buddhist chanting groups, and tents. Therefore, this estimate is quite generous.

Rally of Remembrance:Stretched from Park Pl to Reade along W Broadway, and encompassed the entire width of the street – at 4 lanes wide, and 12 feet per lane, this equals 48 feet wide. 260 feet per block x 4 blocks x 48 feet wide and 4 square feet per person = 12,480 people. This doesn’t take into account people along the periphery at each intersection who couldn’t find space in the main area. Furthermore, this group stood still, shoulder to shoulder, rather than constantly moving about, and presents a more accurate representation.

Thusly, the Rally of Remembrance had AT LEAST 4 times as many people.
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Second commenter:

Like Tyler, I attended both demonstrations, though I stayed at the pro-mosque demonstration till it ended, which led to my very late arrival at Geller’s rally.

Tyler’s estimates of pro-mosque crowd size and the area the crowd filled are exactly the estimates I had intended to supply.

The crowd, however, had a character worse than disheartening. Virtually every speaker suggested — at a demonstration aimed at peace — the only way to beat the “racists and bigots” was with violence. Some made oblique suggestions. Others were direct. One emcee, a black woman who introduced some speakers, channled Malcolm X, calling out “by any means necessary.” Another chant that was repeated several times was “No Justice, No Peace.”

At a peace rally?

Meanwhile, apparently a pro-palestinian group functioned as the chief organizing force of that rally.

Despite the incessant Israel bashing, there was a more disturbing tone and subtext to the rhetoric — which was mostly old tired revolutionary claptrap from the last 40 years. I got the feeling that more than anything else, the crowd supporting the mosque most wanted to go around the corner in street-gang form and kick the crap out of a few people at the anti-mosque rally. The crowd was seething, driven by an animus that was close to blood lust.

For some weird reason these goofy American lefties think they have a special place in the eyes of islam. As if they would escape life in the dhimmitude if they were living in muslim territory.

Meanwhile, as others have said, it was tough to get into the Remembrance Rally. The cops, I think, knew nothing about how to find an entry point. I’ve had this experience for years at any public NYC event attracting large outdoor crowds. If you ask a cop for directions, he gives you an answer that gets you out of his hair. That’s it.

In fact, after getting bad directions a couple of times, I went to a cop standing at a crowd barrier a block west of the rally and told him that every direction I’d been given had led to dead ends, so could I just slip in here? He actually asked me why I wanted to get in. That surprised me. I said, to hear the speakers. He let me in and that was that.
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Furthermore, I can tell you that a news helicopter did hover over the area for nearly an hour – that there are no published aerial photos is troubling. They probably spent all their time photographing the ENTIRE crowd of 40 “9/11 Troofers” at the plaza on W. Broadway and Barclay…or were distracted by a kitty cat.

I can also vouch for people claiming the police officers seemed to purposely mislead people, sending them in the wrong direction, or pretending to be unaware of alternate events in the area, since I was personally was told to walk in 3 different directions to get to Geller’s rally

These comments are persuasive.

MEDIA BLACKOUT ON THE GELLER SPENCER DEMONSTRATION AGAINST THE MOSQUE ON GROUND ZERO

Stephen Gilmour launches into attack on Felix Quigley from his bully pulpit on Radio Talk Europe, a pulpit given to him by Dublin Jewish man, one Maurice Boland, (who supports the Rauf Islamofascist Mosque on Ground Zero)

 

Yes Gilmour I did hear you on your awful radio show last night. You told your listeners that Isaid in an article that you Gilmour was antisemitic. Your exact words unless I was imagining.

The problem is that I never ever did say that you were antisemitic Gilmour.

So what is going on?

I would say that you are trying to divert the public from your Alex Jones/Peter Eyre/Palestine Telegraph truffer type politics and campaigns

However I would say that in the wider world, that your credibility Gilmour is just about Zero, after you announced on your 9-11 show anniversary on 10 september 2010,  that no Arabs were involved in 9-11! LOL!

No Stephen Gilmour, I would say that you really have lost all credibility, and with your assertions about no Arabs being involved in 9-11 that not only you but Maurice Boland, owner of the station, leading Jewish big wig in Ireland and Spain, dhimmi, have lost all credibility. After all it is Boland´s radio station, Boland hires you, Boland pays your wages. So in the end it is Boland who is responsible for statements made by Gilmour to the effect that NO ARABS WERE INVOLVED IN 9-11

And that actually is a good thing, that both Boland and his employee Gilmour have lost all credibility.

So, Stephen Gilmour, keep on taking the tablets.

And do keep giving me free publicity Gilmour. I just love it. It is such an easy step from my name, via Google, to my site.

Not only Gilmour, Boland and their insignificant little radio station, but the big boys in the Media in Spain, in Ireland, in Britain, in Europe, are all refusing to deal with the very significant demonstration AGAINST the Rauf pro Hamas and Islamofascist Mosque on Ground Zero.

We on 4international, this website, and readers, are so happy to be associated with this great demonstration against the Mosque held on Saturday.

Just look at the pictures of this demonstration. As far as the eye can see there are people jammed on one of those wide avenues. It is one of the most stirring political events of our lives and we send our best wishes to the organizers, to the speakers including especially the Coptic Christian man (Joseph Nassralla) representing all the oppressed (by Islam) Christians of Egypt, and to every single person who turned out for that rally.

There was another rally that day, and we will on this site be looking very, very closely at that rally, because it was made up of what we on 4international call the “Fascist Left”, old Stalinists, old revisionists, old hacks!

All of these old leftist fogies, all reactionaries, all clapped out supporters of Islam, are a disgrace to the proud history of socialism, actually. Yes we will look at them and their role last Saturday in attacking the true American patriots in the demonstration organized by Geller and Spencer.

The future does not belong to them. The future belongs to the great and inspiring people, all of them, who were associated with the inspiring demonstration organized by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.

The following analysis by Robert Spencer of the significance of the Media Black Out of the demonstration against the Mosque follows, and in furure articles, keep tuned in, we will be examining this whole event most closely, and how this fight against the Mosque in Ground Zero is closely linked to the struggle of Israel and Jews in general to survive in the face of massive attack from Iran, from Hizbullah, from Syria, from Hamas and from the Arab League represented by the Nazi inspired Fatah

[Begin analysis of Media Blackout here]

The controversy over the Ground Zero mosque should be over and yet it is raging more heatedly than ever. The New York political establishment has lined up solidly behind the mosque, and the mainstream media is busy telling the uninformed that anyone who opposes the mosque is an enemy of religious freedom, a bigot, a racist, and probably a torturer of cats to boot, unwelcome in the company of decent people.

The only problem with this scenario is that the American people refuse to accept it—as illustrated by the thousands who attended the September 11 Rally of Remembrance against the Ground Zero mosque.

Pamela Geller and I hosted the rally as an effort of our Freedom Defense Initiative/Stop Islamization of America organization. It featured Dutch freedom fighter Geert Wilders and video messages from the feisty former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, and journalistic gadfly Andrew Breitbart. Highlights of the afternoon included rousing addresses by talk radio luminaries Mike Gallagher and Steve Malzberg and Marine Corps veteran and North Carolina congressional candidate Ilario Pantano.

And in a striking twist, Coptic Christian activist Joseph Nassralla left the crowd spellbound with an impassioned account of the Muslim persecution of Copts and the dangers of the Islamic law that is so forthrightly defended by the “moderate” Ground Zero mega-mosque imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf.

Nassralla gained national attention last June at the first rally Geller and I held against the Ground Zero mosque, when Keith Olbermann and other hard-left journalistic ideologues misrepresented a misunderstanding between Nassralla and some others in the crowd as a racial incident that supposedly proved that those who opposed the mosque were all racists. Indeed, many news outlets ignored the rally altogether except to note the alleged brutalizing of Nassralla.

One might have thought that Olbermann and the other journalists who featured Nassralla’s story might have been interested in telling their audiences that the same man did not come away from the June incident believing that all mosque opponents were racists, and that he also was a featured speaker at Saturday’s rally against the mosque. But none of the mainstream media accounts of the rally mentioned Nassralla’s presence at all.

Even fewer mentioned the rally itself. When they did, they minimized the size of the crowd, and invariably stated (contrary to the testimony I heard from numerous eyewitnesses on the day itself) that the pro-mosque counter-demonstration that was going on at the same time was larger.

One would think an appearance by Europe’s most controversial politician—Wilders—and America’s most controversial journalist—Breitbart—would have been newsworthy in itself. Add in two wildly popular radio hosts—Gallagher and Malzberg – and a host of other passionate, effective speakers, and the media blackout becomes even more extraordinary. Clearly, it was agenda-driven—part of a larger ongoing effort to sway public opinion onto the side of the Ground Zero mosque.

But the rally that the mainstream media seems so determined to ignore or minimize itself shows the cracks in this edifice. There is an ever-widening gap between the goals and agenda of the political elites, and those of ordinary Americans. And Americans are becoming more aware of that widening gap. The smearing of the 70% of Americans who oppose the mega-mosque as racists and bigots reflects the increasing estrangement between the goals of the elites and those of American citizens who are being shunted aside, ridiculed and scorned.

Left without a voice in the mainstream, their voices silenced and their positions misrespresented, these Americans are increasingly seeing that “objective” journalists are anything but. Government is no better: politicians hide their corruption and statism behind populist rhetoric, and even the most daringly politically incorrect pols dare not risk standing side-by-side with too many people thus tainted, whether that taint was obtained justly or unjustly.

And so it is up to us. It’s increasingly clear in the Age of Obama that we cannot depend upon our government to defend American principles and values, and we can’t depend on the media to depict incidents fairly. We must take matters into our own hands—not in terms of vigilantism, but in regard to speaking out for those principles and values, and not resting until our voice is indeed heard. The rally and the ongoing controversy over the Ground Zero mosque show the weakness of the mainstream “politically correct” position. The mainstream media endlessly beats Americans over the head about the “moderate” Ground Zero mosque, and yet fewer people believe it than ever.

It’s a sign of hope.

 

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Mr. Spencer is director of Jihad Watch and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), The Truth About Muhammad (both from Regnery—a Human Events sister company) and most recently coauthor of Pamela Geller’s The Post-American Presidency (Simon & Schuster).

 

 

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http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38972

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HARRY´S PLACE TRIES TO DISTORT THE DEMONSTRATION AGAINST THE GROUND ZERO MOSQUE

These like Gene, and David T, were the bastards who lined up with Islamofascism against the Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo, never mind with Croatian nazi Tudjman in Croatia.

Now despite stiff opposition from some principled commenters they are trying to hide what is really happening.

 

And what is happening? The masses of the American people are moving into serious conflict with their own rulers and against Islam in America.

That is the real meaning of the mass demonstration of many thousands which was led by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer yesterday.

Suddenly those who place articles on Harry´s Place are struck dumb! They are so quick off the mark usually. Yet at mid day one day later they have not been able to put up one article, and have not been able to publish one photograph, of the mass demo organized by Geller and Spencer.

As in the following:

 The people will be heard (Photo by El Marco)

No further proof really is needed that the “fearless” Harry´s Place are really a crowd of fearless pro-imperial wankers!

The British are a nation of racists, full stop!

How could they possibly be otherwise! it is many centuries since they first invaded my country, Ireland, and in all that time since the British have told racist jokes against us, and have carried out the worst and most cruel acts against the Irish people.

Now listen up here to what these sneering bastards on Harry´s Place write here by Pastor Wright. Note 2 things

1. This is in the absence of any articles about Pamela and Robert´s massive demonstration

2. The sneering racism of these British bastards on Harry´s Place

They write today and this is ALL they can write

The Florida- based Pastor Terry Jones may be completely unaware that part of his act of burning the Qur’an (or, Koran as he prefers to articulate the word) may be quite Islamic (which he claims to hate).You see, the Shari’ah injunction for disposing of spoilt, damaged or unwanted Sacred script is that it should be burnt. In his ignorance, he may be doing an unnecessary favour. God indeed works in mysterious ways, but ignorance of God can often lead one to miss the mystery.

Ignorance can be bliss, and Pastor Jones’s level of knowledge about Islam, amongst many other things, is one of blissful ignorance

 http://hurryupharry.org/2010/09/11/in-the-company-of-the-heroes-of-the-sarajevo-haggadah/

We on 4international first began to take notice of these British racists on Harry´s Place at the time when the US and Britain were weighing in to support Izetbegovic against the Serbs in Bosnia.

They along with total English reactionaries like Oliver Kamm completely obscured the links which Izetbegovic had to the Holocaust.

At the time of the Holocaust, Izetbegovic as a youngish man, was also a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. As such he was active inside the Bosnia and Yugoslavia of those fateful Holocaust years, when Jews, Serbs, Roma et al were murdered by the Islamist Nazis.

But guess who also was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and working for Hitler in the Balkans? Why none other than Hajj Amin el Husseini, the Palestinian Arab butcher of the Holocaust.

They were both (Izetbegovic and Hajj Amin el Husseini) members of the Muslim Brotherhood, working together in the Holocaust.

THAT IS WHAT HARRY´S PLACE WITH OLIVER KAMM WERE SEEKING TO HIDE!

And now these bastards are trying to carry on where they left off in Yugoslavia, by distorting what American patriots like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, as well as Pastor Wright, are actually succeeding in doing.

That is to defeat the Islamofascist Jihad in America.

Shame on you Jewish man David T, and Jewish man “Gene”. As for Oliver Kamm, who now is rewarded by writing for the London Times, oh on second thoughts, who the fuck cares about Kamm!

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TURNING AGAINST ISLAM BIG TIME…IT IS GOOD TO SEE

The first thing the BBC did yesterday was to lie about the demonstrations for and against 9-11. Their reports said hundreds in one, hundreds in the other. What a dirty big BBC lie that was. The against demo to the Rauf Mosque was massive, the other tiny. But that is the BBC. We saw them supporting Islamofascist Izetbegovic in Bosnia, lie after lie. It would not be the BBC without conscious lying.

Actually common sense would tell you that the demo against would be massive, since 72 per cent ARE AGAINST, last count, I am sure it is over 80 per cent today, after Rauf and Muslim Brotherhood amigos down in Florida clearly lied, and were seen by the whole nation, to be lying to Pastor Jones.

The human rights organization Freedom Defense Initiative (FDI) and Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) hosted the demonstration against the mosque. Not one organizer was heard on the BBC.

This has gone a step further on today´s news coverage by commercial interests connected to the BBC. On the news of one Talk Radio Europe the issue of 9-11, never mind the demos, etc., is not even mentioned. That is dropped totally. Lead article on Talk Radio Europe news coverage is, and here you have to smile, English footballer Rooney´s hooker speaks out. Truly Talk Radio Europe is a dhimmi station and Europe is finished!

The list of speakers against the Mosque was massive:

9/11 family members,

former U. S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton (video message);

the Dutch Parliamentarian and freedom fighter Geert Wilders;

journalist Andrew Breitbart (video message);

war hero and North Carolina Congressional candidate Ilario Pantano;

nationally syndicated conservative radio host Mike Gallagher;

Nelly Braginskaya, 911 family member — mother to Alex;

Muslim Iranian activist Sam Khoshbaten;

Coptic Christian activist Joseph Nassralla;

Lisa Vincent, widow of author and journalist Steven Vincent, who was killed in Iraq;

Sudanese ex-slave and human rights activist Simon Deng;

Jordan Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice, which has filed suit to stop the Ground Zero mega-mosque;

Dan Weber, founder of the Association of Mature American Citizens;

James Lafferty, VAST;

Professor Richard Connerney of Pace University (Pace lost 4 students and 43 alumni);

New York Congressional candidate York Kleinhandler;

Darla Dawald, National Director of ResistNet.com;

Satya Dosapati of Hindu Human Rights Watch.

The rally began with a brief memorial service for the victims of the 9/11 attacks, featuring prayers offered by a rabbi, a minister and a priest for the families of the victims and for the nation.

The acclaimed vocalist Sarah Lee Michaels sang the National Anthem.

Hosting the rally was Pamela Geller, the popular blogger and columnist who publishes the acclaimed AtlasShrugs.com blog and executive director of FDI and SIOA; and SIOA associate director Robert Spencer, the bestselling author and director of JihadWatch.org.

Geller is the author (with Spencer) of The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America (foreword by Ambassador John Bolton), published by Simon & Schuster.

Responding to requests from a faction of 9/11 family members who asked her not to hold the rally on September 11, Geller had said:

“I would have cancelled the rally, but due to the large number of family members who have contacted me and asked us to help them speak out for their loved ones and give them a voice to express their opinions, in all conscience I cannot postpone the rally.”

The great Geert Wilders freedom fighter (Photo by David Pietrusza)

The Ground Zero mosque is not an issue of religious freedom, but of resisting an effort to insult the victims of 9/11 and to establish a beachhead for political Islam and Islamic supremacism in New York.

Ground Zero mosque imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is an open proponent of Sharia, Islamic law, a system that denies the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law.

Given the thousands of triumphal mosques that have been built on the cherished sites of conquered peoples throughout Islamic history, the mosque leaders’ claim that this mosque would be understood differently by Muslims worldwide lack foundation.

9-11 DEMONSTRATION AGAINST ISLAMOFASCIST MOSQUE, HEY THERE BBC! DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A FEW HUNDREDS!

HEY THERE BBC! DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A FEW HUNDREDS!

America Speaks! Historic 911 Rally Draws 40,000

from

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/09/historic-911-rally-draws-40000.html

The media pretends these people don’t exist. It’s criminal. 

 

We will be heard.

  Photo: El Marco

Tens of thousands descended upon Ground Zero today to remember those we lost nine years ago, and to save the American principles of freedom that the sharia tramples.

Crickets are chirping in taqiya media newsrooms nationwide (although they were all there). There has been no coverage.

We organized a rally of remembrance that dwarfed the opposition. If the America haters had 4,000, we had ten times more. The media is playing the dueling rallies; it was no such thing.

Free people came from all over the country and all over the world to stand in solidarity with the 911 families and to declare our iron determination that no victory mosque will be built on their graves. The crowd was young and old, black and white …….. politics of all stripes. The crowd was beautiful. The crowd was proud and good and decent America. All the speakers were excellent. Rousing.

But the highlights included Geert Wilders, who was greeted as the great hero that he is, and spoke about how a sharia mosque at Ground Zero would be the death New York’s proud tradition of Dutch tolerance.

Ambassador John Bolton spoke bluntly and unequivocally via video link about the affront to American values that this mosque would constitute. 

Other powerful voices included Joseph Nassralla, who was the unwilling media darling of our June 6th rally, when a misunderstanding was blown out of proportion by the mainstream media as a racist incident. Joseph Nassralla was the Arab who was supposedly in a confrontation at that rally. At this rally we were proud to feature him, and he was so passionate and rousing in his love for America and fierce denunciation of the thousand-year-old Islamic oppression of the Coptic Christians in Egypt that the crowd went wild as Joseph led them in cheers of Gd Bless America!

But his warning was clear. The Ground Zero mosque would be the beginning of the end, and Egypt shows where the presence of Islam leads in a free nation.

Steve Malzberg and Mike Gallagher were greeted by huge cheers. It was an historic day in American history. Here is the first of El Marco’s peerless coverage. More pictures and video will be going up continuously. So check back. And El Marco  and Pamela Hall will have the definitive post tomorrow (hopefully).

SUPPORT PASTOR JONES ALL THE WAY…JIHADWATCH SPENCER MAKES FATAL MISTAKE

We on 4international stand totally along side of Pastor Jones of the Florida-based Dove World Outreach Centre and we dissociate ourselves from the politics of Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch on this issue. The position of Spencer is nothing short of traitorous on this issue even though he has done great work in explaining how vicious is the ideology of Islam. Spencer has really betrayed not only Pastor Jones but the whole struggle and campaign that he Spencer has done so much for on the stopping of the Mosque on the hallowed ground of the 9-11 crime carried out by Islam.

 

In every respect Jones is correct and Spencer, Palin and others like that are totally wrong.

 

The position of Palin on this is a great warning to those Jews, friends of 4international,  like Ted Belman on Israpundit who have been backing Palin as a possible defender of Israel. In one stroke, in the flash of an eyelid, the pretensions of Palin, and Spencer, are gone.

 

Another big warning has come on the issue of what Iman Muhammad Musri told Jones last night to make Jones cancel, then go again, when he sees Musri telling lies about Rauf. You need witnesses with Islam. It must be all written down.

 

This was Spencer´s big moment, his test as it were, and he has blown it.

 

This betrayal by Spencer is bound to create huge tensions inside the campaign against the building of the Mosque on Ground Zero.

 

What Spencer should have done and did not is something along the following:

 

1. Create immediately a United Front with Pastor Jones. Defend Pastor Jones to the very last moment against all who are attacking him. Defend the decision of Pastor Jones to burn the Koran when and wherever he wants to. If Spencer has differences with Pastor Jones on the issue of tactics, then certainly write that up and publish it on his website Jihadwatch, but do so only in the context of standing with Jones against Islam, and against those supporters of Islam like Obama, and (Ted Belman take note) Palin also.

 

What Spencer and Jihadwatch actually did do, and should not

 

1. Launched into an attack on Pastor Jones. He called Pastor Jones “stupid” in his first sentence.

 

Spencer wrote September 6, 5.58 am

 

This church’s plan to burn the Qur’an on September 11 is stupid; I disapprove of it and of many other things about the pastor, the church, and the church’s approach to the jihad threat. I don’t support the burning of books; it’s tactically stupid, as it will make the mainstream media portray the church as a bunch of Nazis, and it’s wrong in principle: the antidote to bad speech is not censorship or book-burning, but more speech. Open discussion. Give-and-take. And the truth will out. There is no justification for burning books.

Marisol’s comments here are apposite: “‘International Burn a Koran Day’ does a grave disservice to the cause of spreading awareness about Islamic teachings and the threat that Sharia poses to our way of life. It is a gift to Islamic groups who would so dearly love to portray all of us who criticize and question Islamic teachings (and triumphalist mosques) as frothing reactionaries.”

Spencer followed this up less than an hour later at 6.33 am with the following:

 

Once again: This church’s plan to burn the Qur’an on September 11 is stupid; I disapprove of it and of many other things about the pastor, the church, and the church’s approach to the jihad threat. I don’t support the burning of books; it’s tactically stupid, as it will make the mainstream media portray the church as a bunch of Nazis, and it’s wrong in principle: the antidote to bad speech is not censorship or book-burning, but more speech. Open discussion. Give-and-take. And the truth will out. There is no justification for burning books.

Marisol’s comments here are apposite: “‘International Burn a Koran Day’ does a grave disservice to the cause of spreading awareness about Islamic teachings and the threat that Sharia poses to our way of life. It is a gift to Islamic groups who would so dearly love to portray all of us who criticize and question Islamic teachings (and triumphalist mosques) as frothing reactionaries.”

 

No matter what way Spencer will twist and turn he cannot squirm out of this.

 

What he has done in the above is to stick the knife into the back of Pastor Jones of the Dove World Outreach Centre, a knife that others like Palin are twisting.

 

This is unforgiveable! By doing this Spencer has immeasurably weakened the campaign of Americans to stop the Mosque being built by Islamofascist Iman Rauf (who supports Hamas)  on Ground Zero.

 

The consequences for not understanding the Leninist and Trotskyist principle of United Front, campaigned for so many years ago, are simply incalculable.

I do not mean applying the United Front like a dogma. That is not what we are about. We oppose dogma and hero worship etc. Just be aware of past theory and history and creatively develop the lessons.

Spencer and Marisol should have made it their priority to at all costs defend Jones.

No matter what the differences, defence comes first.

Now the life of Jones is clearly in danger. So is the life of Robert Spencer. So is the life of Pamela Geller and a hundred others who immediately come to mind, fighters who are in the forefront of the fight against Islam.

I once spoke to Ted Belman about United Front history in the Trotskyist and Leninist context and he brushed it aside, FOR IDEOLOGICAL REASONS.

That is the rub actually.

It is necessary to open the mind up to the lessons of the past and that so far Spencer has showed that he cannot do or go there. This is because Spencer is psychologically and politically tied with a million strings to US capitalist, essentially imperialist, presumptions about life and this struggle against EQUALLY IMPERIALIST Islam.

But Spencer remains a king in comparision to the Fascist Left such as WSWS.

More on that another time!

 

US IS FUNDING ARAB PALESTINE JIHADIST ATTACKS ON ISRAEL AND JEWS…INVOLVES JEWISH TRAITORS LIKE BURG

The US in organizing the talks between Netanyahu and Abbas is also interfering directly in politics in Israel totally behind the back of the Israeli Government 

it is a situation of sinister intrigue which is geared against Netanyahu. Everything that Obama has done since taking power is aimed at having netanyahu defeated and replaced by Livni and Barak. 

As Francisco Gil White has said, the US has at its disposal enormous funds in the field of intelligence gathering. it knows every single detail of every aspect of Israeli political life, and this will extend to the private lives of all Israelis in politicsñ 

The centre of this intrigue against Israel is the “Geneva Initiative” 

  

Beilin’s association with the peace process is the most notable element in his career. Backed by Shimon Peres, he initiated secret negotiations in 1992 which led to the Oslo accords in 1993. Together with Mahmoud Abbas, another architect of the Oslo accords, he signed in 1995 the Beilin-Abu Mazen agreement, a ‘non paper‘ of guidelines for a permanent solution to the conflict. During 1992-1995 he headed the Israeli delegation to the Multilateral peace process working groups. In 2001 he participated in the Israeli-Palestinian Taba talks and, the initiative that he is currently most famed for, signed the Geneva Accords with Yasser Abd Rabbo. 

On 28 October, 2008 he announced that he will not be seeking a spot on his party’s Knesset roster in the upcoming elections. His aides said he “will remain a public figure and will keep pursuing his political initiatives, most of all the Geneva Initiative”.^[2] On 4 November he was replaced by Tzvia Greenfield, who became the first Haredi woman sworn as an MK.^[3] 

Beilin holds a soft capitalist agenda, which did not stop him from joining forces with the mainly socialist Meretz. He rarely speaks publicly on social issues, but instead focuses his efforts on promoting negotiations with the Palestinians. In fact, his victory over Meretz’s own Ran Cohen was construed as a vote of Meretz electorate of giving precedence to the conflict over socioeconomic issues. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yossi_Beilin 

Beilin was stated in Ynet to have retired from politics in 2008. Beware of these types of people “retiring” from politics” 

The Ynet report is fairly revealing in understanding the corrupt and tribal nature of Israeli ruling class politics. When we speak of labour we are speaking of the Israeli elite. Not ethe presence of Peres: 

Meretz’s Beilin retiring from politics

 

Prominent left-wing politician informs current party chairman he will not be seeking slot on Knesset roster; said to be leaving politics in favor of business world 

Dr. Beilin informed Meretz Chairman Chaim Oron of his decision on Tuesday evening. The move marks the end of the veteran statesman’s political career. 

Beilin apparently intends to enter private practice, but was reluctant to elaborate on its nature or the circumstances surrounding his decision to retire from political life. His aides told Ynet that he “will remain a public figure and will keep pursuing his political initiatives, most of all the Geneva Initiative.” 

Yossi Beilin began his political career in 1977, as Labor’s spokesman. He was later named cabinet secretary the political director of the Foreign Ministry. 

Considered Shimon Peres’ protégé, he was elected to the Knesset for the first time in 1988. He went on serve as a deputy minister, and was elected MK for four consecutive terms. He resigned from the Knesset in 1999. In 2004, he turned left of Labor, and joined Meretz. 

Beilin announcement spells yet another end for Meretz, and may be seen as a possible indicator for the troublesome times ahead of the party, which has suffered declining support by the voting public – from 12 mandates in the 1992 general elections to five in the current Knesset. 

“I was saddened by Beilin’s decision, of which he told several days ago,’ said Oron. 

“Yossi Beilin is one of the most important political leaders we have ever known. He shaped a political road supported by the majority of Israeli today. I can only hope that his daring and original way will keep serving Israel and Meretz for years to come.” 

MK Effie Eitam (National Union-National Religious Party) added that “Beilin has always been a fair and worthy political adversary, who loves the people and the country in his own way. 

“As we served together on the Knesset’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, I was privileged to know a person of principles. His retirement from politics should upset every Israeli citizen, regardless of their political affiliation,” he said. 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3614514,00.html 

Note in the following re Avraham Burg that his parents were Israeli patriots, and that Burg has left Israel now living in France

Burg was born and raised in Jerusalem‘s Rehavia neighborhood. His father was Yosef Burg, a German-born Israeli politician and long-time government minister for the National Religious Party. His mother Rivka (née Slonim), was born in Hebron and survived the Arab massacre in 1929.^[1]

In the Israel Defense Forces, Burg served as a lieutenant in the paratroopers brigade. He graduated from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem with a degree in the social sciences.

Burg is married to Yael and lived in Nataf, a rural community on the outskirts of Jerusalem. Burg and his wife have six children.^[2] Burg has now lived in France since 2004, acquiring French citizenship and working in business.^[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avraham_Burg

In Burg we are dealing with a real political menace to Israel. Read the following and place in the context of his proud Jewish parents, and also see how mixed in he is with the very tops in Israeli life:

In 1992, when the Alignment merged with the Labor Party, he was reelected to Knesset. In 1995, he was appointed Chairman of the Jewish Agency and the World Zionist Organization, and resigned from the Knesset. As head of the Jewish Agency, he worked to recover Jewish property lost during the Holocaust, and in the transfer of ca. half a million predominantly Jewish citizens from the Commonwealth of Independent States (the former Soviet Union) to Israel.

BURG WAS REALLY BARAK´S MAN

(So was the leader of this group, Gadi Baltiansky. At camp David Baltiansky was very close to Barak. That was where Barak was giving everything but the kitchen sink to Arafat)

In 1999, Burg returned to domestic politics, and was elected to the Knesset on Ehud Barak‘s One Israel list (an alliance of Labor, Meimad and Gesher). Burg was elected Speaker of the Knesset, a position he held until early 2003. In his capacity as speaker of the Knesset he served as interim President of Israel for 20 days, from 12 July until 1 August 2000 when the presidency was vacant following Ezer Weizman‘s resignation. Following Barak’s defeat in the 2001 election for Prime Minister and his subsequent resignation, Burg ran for the Labor Party leadership, but lost. Nevertheless, he retained his seat in the Knesset in the 2003 elections.

In October 2003, Burg caused a sensation when he published an article in the British newspaper The Guardian named ‘The end of Zionism’ calling for a quick withdrawal from the Palestinian Territories.^[5]

Also in 2003, Burg published an article in Yedioth Ahronoth in which he declared, “Israel, having ceased to care about the children of the Palestinians, should not be surprised when they come washed in hatred and blow themselves up in the centers of Israeli escapism.”^[6]

[edit] Retirement from political life

In 2004, Burg resigned from the Knesset and public life. Since then, he has lectured at international events and served on the board of directors of Vita Pri Hagalil.^[7]

In an interview in Haaretz in June 2007, Burg suggested amending the Law of Return and stated that “to define the State of Israel as a Jewish state is the key to its end. A Jewish state is explosive. It’s dynamite.”^[8] In response to public criticism of the interview, however, he published a retraction, recommending that Israel be defined not as a “Jewish State” but as a “State of the Jews.” ^[9][10]

In April 2008, Burg signed a letter of support for the recently created J Street American pro-peace lobby group.^[11] On November 14, 2008, he joined a new left-wing movement intending to support the Meretz-Yachad party in the 2009 national elections.^[12]

In April 2009, Burg participated in the Doha Debates at Georgetown University in Washington DC, where he debated for the motion “this house believes that it is time for the USA to get tough on Israel” with fellow speaker Michael Scheuer, former Chief of the CIA Bin Laden Issue Station. Speakers against the motion were Dore Gold, President of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz. Burg and Scheuer won the vote on the debate, with 63% of the audience voting for the motion.^[13

^(ibid)

^{The Haaretz article listed in the Wiki article above is most revealing. He says there was something astonishing about the Jews in Germany. Similarly with the Jews in America, he says. He places this “astonishingness” in the context of this remark}

They created a situation in which the goy can be my father and my mother and my son and my partner,” Burg says.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/burg-defining-israel-as-a-jewish-state-is-the-key-to-its-end-1.222491

Indeed so Burg. So astonishingly successful right on to the gates of the Concentration Camps!

The Doha Debates of 2003 should be studied. This applies to the contribution of Burg there. If you like skip the following condensed paragraph which Burg gave but do look at the question and answer at the end:

AVRAHAM BURG
I’m in favour of the motion.  If tougher means opinionated, involved, caring, a different rather than an indifferent United States of America, I’m all for it.  The history, at least the lessons learned from our history is that each and every time the United States of America was involved and actively so in our affairs, it was good for the region, it was good for the United States of America, and it was good for Israel.  So it was the case in ’56 in which the United States of America made Israel and forced Israel to withdraw from Gaza.  This was the case in ’78 in which Jimmy Carter forced Israel and Egypt to finish the peace accord between the two of us, so was the case with Madrid and so many other cases in the history, and each and every time, the United States of America was away from the region and let us have like the last eight years a cowboy, isolationist, indifferent, arrogant policy. It was bad for the region, it was bad for the United States of America, it was bad for the world, it was bad for Israel. And therefore I welcome this kind of caring, opinionated, active United States of America.  The Middle East is one of the most dangerous, volatile places in the world – for itself, for its residents and for the well-being of Western civilisation, and ours is one of the causes of this conflict, and after 100 years of war, it’s a century of war, one of the longest in history, it’s about time to say: “enough,” it’s about time to say: “let’s think differently about it.”  Now, everybody knows what would be the solution, everybody knows the outline of the future.  We are there, but the depths of the previous mistakes, the missed opportunities, the traumas, the fears and the hatred made both sides lock horns and we cannot move anywhere because we are so locked into each other.  So using President Obama’s language, alone, no we cannot.  It’s impossible for both sides to redeem themselves alone, and time is not an ally any more.  Time is not working for the benefit of the region.  America is getting weaker, the era of a one superpower world is over, and the days of the two-state solution are numbered, and therefore we must do an impossible effort to redeem us and to redeem the region and maybe to introduce peace, tranquillity and reconciliation to the trigger of the next nuclear, potential nuclear round in the area.  And only a dramatic turnaround can make it, and only, maybe nobody can do it, but if somebody can do it, and unify a different alternative world international coalition that comes with a logical policy to the Middle East and persuade, and pressure is about persuasion, and there are ways to talk, Mr. Gold.  Talk and talks, so it depends how you talk the talk President Obama, and how you talk the talk, United States of America, and if it is a talk according to the new language we heard during the campaign, this is exactly the waiting of the majority of both societies, waiting for the responsible adult to come to the region, maybe tougher like a father sometimes, a parent sometimes has to be tough.  A parent who doesn’t know how to say “no” to a child is a bad parent.  An American president who allows everything to the children in the Middle East to do is a bad president for the world, and only then a tougher president, who can stand the challenges, will not run away from the little traps we’ll put ahead of him, who will separate and unlock the locked horns of both sides, is a United States of America which is the leader of the free world that reintroduced hope into the region. Will give back hope to myself and my children, and my children’s children, and if this calls for some tougher measures, so be it.
TIM SEBASTIAN
Avraham Burg, thank you very much indeed.  Let me get this straight.  You want Israel to act the child, and you want America to act the parent?  That’s a little insulting to a democracy, isn’t it?  Israel is hardly a child.  Its government has been voted in by democratic voters.
AVRAHAM BURG
Okay.  But we are living in a kind of a reality in which …
TIM SEBASTIAN
The reality is that democracies don’t react well to being treated like kids by other countries, do they?
AVRAHAM BURG
Well, this is right when you are a superpower.  It is not necessarily right when you’re a small nation which has many considerations and you need sometimes, and you lean so many times on the big brother or the big sister.  When you have this kind of adult relations with somebody who’s your back …
TIM SEBASTIAN
So it’s worked well in Central America when America told all those countries that had the death squads in El Salvador and places like that what to do, it was a good record there, was it?
AVRAHAM BURG
I don’t know the history there, I can tell you about the history on our side of the ocean, okay? And on our side of the ocean, if we are dangerous to ourselves and we are dangerous to our neighbours and we are dangerous to the world, and the world cares about itself, the world should say something.  But to say: “Hey kids, play, do whatever you like, it’s fine with me, and if it’s volatile, volatile, what can I do?  If it’s explosive, explosive, what can I do?”  This is an irresponsible world leadership.
TIM SEBASTIAN
So let me get this straight.  Thousands of rockets …
AVRAHAM BURG
Wasn’t it straight enough?
TIM SEBASTIAN
No.  Maybe not.  Thousands of rockets have rained down on Israel and you somehow want more pressure on the country because it hasn’t been through enough yet.
AVRAHAM BURG
Pressure is on the region, pressure is on the parties, pressure is on the situation.
TIM SEBASTIAN
We’re talking… the motion is “getting tough” on Israel.
AVRAHAM BURG
I’ll come to the next one when we’re putting pressure on Palestine.  I mean, I’ll have the same arguments, because you cannot  …
TIM SEBASTIAN
You’re infinitely flexible then?
AVRAHAM BURG
Oh, no, I’m not flexible.
TIM SEBASTIAN
Depends on the occasion?
AVRAHAM BURG
No, I’m not.  I’m very determined.
TIM SEBASTIAN
A real speaker of the Knesset.
AVRAHAM BURG
Yes, this is why I speak so much, okay, but it is not about this, it’s not about being flexible, it’s about an approach.  It’s a comprehensive policy.  It’s about responsibility.  If the region stands a chance for peace, and only an indifferent America or indifferent world communities between the motivation and the potential of the region, to create a new coalition for reconciliation, and America does not move because it is not appropriate, it’s not politically democratically correct, it’s a wrong policy.  Now, when President Obama ran and actually ignited …
TIM SEBASTIAN
You want him to wave a stick at Israel?
AVRAHAM BURG
I’m sorry?
TIM SEBASTIAN
You want him to wave a stick at Israel?
AVRAHAM BURG
No, to wave a carrot.  I do not believe in stick and carrot, I believe in carrot and carrot.
TIM SEBASTIAN
Okay, all right.  Avraham Burg, thank you very much indeed.
AVRAHAM BURG
Thank you very much.

http://www.thedohadebates.com/debates/debate.asp?d=48&s=5&mode=transcript

If you visit the site of the Geneva Initiative mentioned earlier you can view the photographs of a very wide circle of people inside Israel connected with this Geneva initiative.

If you want to find out more about how the Obama Government is interlinked with this Geneva Institute, who (the important thing) remember they are not elected by anybody, then visit the Elder of Zion website

The US is funding an advertising campaign meant to make Israelis doubt the leadership abilities of the people they elected. The Geneva Initiative is far the the left of the mainstream Israeli public.

USAID is primarily meant to provide development and reconstruction assistance. To use it to fund a blatantly political program seems to go against its stated purpose.

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2010/08/us-funds-left-wing-anti-netanyahu-ad.html

OAFISH RAUF WANT TO END THE JEWISH HOMELAND OF ISRAEL BUT WHERE IS BOLAND IN THIS?

For clearer image of the above see Pamela´s article on

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/09/ground-zero-mosque-imam-rauf-in-a-true-peace-it-is-impossible-that-a-purely-jewish-state-of-palestin.html

Nothing really could be clearer. This guy Rauf who has been behind this agitation to build a Mosque on Ground Zero is really an Islamist Jihadist, a Bin Laden type, who wants to have the historical state of Israel disbanded, destroyed by whatever means, and replaced by an Arab and Muslim state.

That seems a bit extreme but it is the truth. On the issue of Israel as the Jewish state Rauf is exactly, precisely, Bin Laden. Go check it out!

We on 4international are so indebted to Pamela Geller and Atlas Shrugs for their hard work, the above is transcribed from a recent speech by Rauf.

It shows that Rauf and his little wifey Daisy !!! are really Islamofascists, they do not like Jews one little bit, to the extent that they do not wish for Jews to have a nation state of their own.

This is so evil and so reactionary.

We on 4international have a number of questions:

First of all to genial Dublin Jewish man Maurice Boland, all the way from Dublin´s Fair City, now running the radio station in Spain called Radio Talk Europe.

We have made our detestation for the treacherous politics of Boland dead clear in our recent articles.

For a sample:

On Monday 23 August Boland and Norman made their positions clear in that they were FOR the building of the Mosque on Ground Zero. Their reasons I will not go into, the important thing is their position.

What a treacherous position these two Jewish people are taking, betraying the great traditions of the revolutionary Jewish people down through the ages!

Boland especially is so treacherous! In supporting this Mosque he is betraying all Jews, especially the beseiged by Antisemitism Jews of Ireland.

https://4international.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/jewish-man-boland-and-his-crony-norman-are-supporting-the-mosque-on-ground-zero/

Just over a week ago you clearly on your influential station were calling for support for the Rauf Mosque on Ground Zero. Oh how liberal sounding you were Boland! What a wonderful humanitarian!

But now Pamela Geller with a few deft strokes has exposed your real position, because in supporting Rauf you have to be supporting the real agenda of Rauf, which is the destruction of the Jewish state of Israel.

What a scoundrel this guy Rauf is, and by implication, referring to Boland´s support a week ago for Rauf, what a scoundrel is Boland, and what a danger is Boland to the great and good Jews of Dublin and Ireland.

Return to the paragraphs of Rauf quoted by Pamela Geller:

He says (in the very first sentence) we now have post Zionist movements in Israel. He then goes on to claim that the majority of people in Israel are post Zionists (it is all so very Chomsky)

So is that your position as well Boland and if it is not you had better get on your skates and dissociate yourself from Rauf and his Mosque project?

So let us take this very carefully: What is Zionism? Zionism is very simple to understand. It is the same as every other nationalism, say for example Irish Nationalism. It is the wish of the Jewish people to return to their Homeland in Israel.

Their wish, to have one small state in the world which they can call their own, with the secondary factor included in that, that their Homeland can be a safeguard against antisemitism

The word “Zionism” is also used as a curse word, as a word used by antisemites, especially now by antisemitic conspiracy theory freaks, and above all by the Fascist Leftists in the world, who can no longer be called in any way socialist, they are indeed just what I said fascists. But let us not go down that dark road, a raod traversed by Hitlerian and Arabic Fascists in the past, Arabs like Hajj Amin el Husseini…

Rauf refers to the “territories”:

By this word “territories” he means a la the BBC usage, that this is Arab land and that Israel is “occupying” this Arab land

(I think actually this is where Boland stands as well, but if I am wrong on this we are happy for him to come onto our website to publish otherwise)

BUT THIS IS NOT ARAB LAND. THIS IS JEWISH LAND. The very name “West Bank” is phoney, the real name in usage up until 1967 was Judea and Samaria

Then Rauf does something really sneaky…he refers to withdrawal from the territories and that those in the Jewish population wishing for withdrawal are in the majority.

Is this correct? There was certainly a time when this was the case, around the time of OSLO.

But Jewish people were deceived by OSLO. Arafat was using OSLO to gain an advantage and Arafat was literally speaking in two tongues, one English for the Israelis and the Western backers of Jihad, and in another tongue, namely Arab, where Arafat was explaining that OSLO was a trick, which he and the Arabs were using to destroy Israel.

The poor Jews of Israel, with horrible leaders and worse Media! The Jews were fed lies!

Now Jews in Israel would still like peace, BUT THEY CAN NO LONGER TRUST ISLAM

Boland asked me on the 23rd what is the connection between Iran and Ground Zero. Now Boland has his answer to this more clearly than I could answer then.

The answer lies in the transcript above from wonderful Pamela Geller of the odious Rauf. As the oafish and ridiculous Rauf makes clear that

1. Rauf wants to build a Mosque on Ground Zero

2. Rauf wants to do away with Israel.

In other words Oaf Rauf wants to end the Jewish Homeland of Israel and to replace that Homeland with the 23rd Arab state and what is it now? the 60th Islam state in the world

Go figure Boland! you are with Rauf. And funniest thing of all you are also with all of those left Fascists in the world who are supporting Rauf!

Do you actually, really, want to be there Boland?

THE GREAT AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE ON THE MOVE TO GROUND ZERO AS THEY FIGHT BACK AGAINST PRO ISLAM BUSH JNR AND OBAMA

We on 4international are true Trotskyists and we have no hesitation at all in throwing our support behind this massive movement in America which is growing in its opposition to reactionary Islam. It is all being concentrated into the commemoration of 9-11 and the opposition to this Jihad provoking Mosque on Ground Zero

It seems to us over here in Europe that the America people have, as they say, really go ttheir gander up.

And we think it is great to see.

One of the greatest pleasures in life is to see the reactionary and morbid pro Islam leftists like WSWS squirm as they face this great movement of American patriots

Of course there are dangers to this and some will try to divert this great movement. But the essence of the campaign run by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer has been opposition to this hate filled religion cum political ideology which goes by the name of Jihad or Islam or Muslim, and alliance with the beseiged Jews of the world, and the beseiged Israel, the only and treasured Homeland of the Jews.

Thus, really, opposition to all the plans of the American elite to foist onto Israel a Nazi and Jihadist Palestine state, with Abbas sitting there on top of his terrorist outfit, in position on the heights of Judea overlooking Tel Aviv, and Ben Gurion Airport etc, attacking Israel with the army and guns that the American state has been creating there in the so-called West Bank over recent years.

It is a huge challenge to people like George Bush Jnr who called openly, like Cheney did way back in the 80s, for a Palestine state. And above all it is a direct and deadly challenge to Obama and his pro Islam Cairo speech to Islamofascism last year.

There is more to this caravan of American Patriots than just 9.11,and it is not simply about America, because the American working class is a truly great, and historically speaking, truly revolutionary force in the historical process.

We on 4international based in Europe are following this event very closely, we send our best wishes, and what is better than to give a flavour of how the energy of the American people is getting things moving, and is making  old Obamarama quake in his boots from fear!

Update from the Largest Caravan Across America! The Spirit Grows….

 

UPDATE Aug 20, 2010: DELAWARE has joined the Caravan!

UPDATE from the LARGEST CARAVAN ACROSS AMERICA:

Many people are planning to go PATRIOTIC  as they caravan and car-pool to Ground Zero.  State Flags and Red, White and Blue Ribbon will be festooned all over their cars, trucks and vans.

The administrator for the caravan reports that everyone is  really excited. She is  absolutely blown-away by the response she has gotten about this caravan.

People  are coming from:  

California

 

Washington

Arizona

Wisconsin

 

Indiana

 

Ohio

Michigan

Florida

Tennessee

Georgia

West Virginia

Virginia

 

North Carolina

South Carolina

(ALL OVER the  NEW ENGLAND STATES)

and Texas

 

(that’s just to name a few) DELAWARE comes on-board!

And who knows how many more that know about the Caravan and just haven’t posted yet! To quote the administrator, Kelli, ” I mean just, WOW!”